What did I say? They are so hungry they don't care and will eat birds even with the flu LOL!

Was that a joke dude?

Caso resuelto.

Edward,

You are a true dumbinican that think all Haitian are in dire need. As we speak your compatriot are planning a boat ride to PR. To stay on topic, this is to show you the purchasing power haiti has. Your head is too far down your c*(0 to realize that. And one question what are the majority dominicans eating? Platanos and salami..:)...I hope the haitian governement wasn't pressured and this dilemma was resolved in the interest of the haitian people.. This should also be a wake up call for all dominicans to realize that haiti is important factor that determines if they will make money

You know guys this is totally unaccepatble and unproductive to a healthy exchange of information. Mr. Edward certaintly represent the subhuman view that most dominicans have of Haitians. If I was Mr. Edward I 'll hold on those comments and stay objective to the issues at hand. As you guys know, I am Dominican and I have come across sistuations in which Haitians are out doing Dominicans academically here in the U.S. And according to my experience and being that most of my friends are white americans, they have a more negative view of Dominicans than of Haitians. I beg you to concetrate on the situation and reputation of Dominicans here in the U.S. We are often looked down aby Americans by the deterioration of the neighborshoods that populated by Dominican majority. Guys, Washington Heights is an eye sore and a shame to anyone of Dominican decent. I really hate to see what is happening over there and the destructions of our youth by drugs and gangs.

Dagtan, thru your comments I can see you are very concerned about the dominican group in adapting to the USA and as you mention thru your observation it is very alarming. Edwards, comments are very funny to me because the stereotypes he has about haitians are the same one americans and other hispanic have about dominicans. I wonder what bubble does he live then again he from mass. Again to stay on subject the haitian consumption of DR products need to take haiti into consideration as we are a vital customer. I think dominicans such as yourself are aware of this..it's the dumbinicans that aren't aware of this..

It's funny how in order to defend their positions some find the need to lower themselves to attacking the Dominican community, apparently if Dominicans look bad then hatians will look better by comparison? The fact is that haiti cannot afford to stop importing Dominican goods, especially one as vital as poultry.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I was trying to be funny!

To: Edward,
This website is a place that both Haitians and Dominicans come to share their ideas and thoughts on topics that affects both nations. The discovery of the Avian-Flu virus in poultry of the Dominican Republic is a very serious matter and must be discussed accordingly. This is not the place to "try to be funny". Staying back on topic here, I really hope that the Haitian government did not once again fall under the pressure of the Dominican government. If that is the case, maybe they should be taking care of Haiti.

Jabao thank you for pointing that out. I am almost sure that some fo the Dominicans on this forum that live in the U.S. have either stay within predominantly Dominican communities or have not integrated themselves into the American society to understand the way we are viewed as an immigrant group. There was a time in which Dominicans were viewed positvely across the board, but unfrotunately they are gone. If any of you have ever reached a friendship with people of distinct races to the point that they feel comfortable discussing their views openly about your race then you will be able to at least sample a small group of people. We professional Dominicans have to constantly proof ourselves to others that we are not like "typical" I hate that word. Yes, alot of people think that you are the typical Dominican and you must prove yourself otherwise before they treat with respect. You guys do not know how fruustrating it is to me when one of my collegues tell me, "you are so different

from the other Dominicans". I believe that we Dominicans thatlive here in the U.S. should conduct a self assessment of our position here and deep down you are going to find out that we are rather closer than you think to the same situation as Haitians in DR. Threfore, we have no business behaving like, when our people are suffering from similar symptons in another land. To those Dominicans in DR that post here, I must tell you that we Dominicans are struggling to establish ourselves as a viable group here in the U.S. we often find ourselves under attack by communities that see our kids failing and bringing their schools down and from condo communities that have difficulties approving hispanics, specially Dominicans because they are famous for their house parties into luxury condos. Maybe, your own family members are struggling here and in cases worst than Haitians in DR, the only thing is that they do not say anything due ot their pride and necessitity to be sucessful, cont

since in DR whoever comes to the U.S. must be sucessfull otherwise people in the barrio will say "oh, that was a wasted visa" if they do not see you with the gold and the jeepetea and drinking like a fish when you go there. Since coming here I have become extremely sensitive to the plight of others, since I often find myself helping my people progress and fight discrimination and unfair conditions across the board.

From an American point of view both countries need each other to survive. Haiti imports most of its commodities from the DR. And as a result, The Haitian dollars stimulate the DR's economy and the Dominican people.

From an American point of view both countries need each other to survive. Haiti imports most of its commodities from the DR. And as a result, The Haitian dollars stimulate the DR's economy and the Dominican people.

I have a deep suspicion that the "el hombre del maletín" (bribery) might be involved in the lifting of this brief ban. As you all know, almost all the internal economical and politcal deals that have taken place on the DR have involved this type of corruption one way or another, so I'll not be surprised if some officers of the haitian gov. might have fallen prey to this kind of situation as well, because, from what I have heard and read, almost all the funds of the haitian national budget are coming from international aid, and this aid hasn't been coming with the same regularity as it did on the pre-coup years, so it's a given that the haitian government might find itself in a lack of funds situation from time to time. I beg for your forgiveness if my hypothesis might have sounded like too strong an accusation, but, from personal experience, I have learned that on this island, every single shady deal and situation might be possible.

Hey dagtan I totally agree with you man; I 've heard that the Dominicans from New York behave very different to the Dominicans on the DR. I understand about the "you are so different" line, which saddened me from the first time I heard it.

I met someone once, Asian actually, he told me he used to live in a Dominican neighborhood in NY and he says that they were racist and behave like jerks with him or anyone who wasn't Dominican, and then he told me I was so different, I told him that if Dominicans in NY behave badly, it doesn't mean that we all behave the same way.

CONTRARY TO WHAT THE MAYOR OF DAJABON SAID ABOUT LETTING HAITIANS BUY DOMINICAN PRODUCTS, HAITI JUST MADE A TRULY HUMANITARIAN GESTURE BY LIFTING THE BAN ON DOMINICAN POULTRY PRODUCTS AND REALIZING HOW MUCH MONEY DOMINICAN FARMERS WOULD LOOSE. THIS IS JUST AN OTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW MUCH HAITI IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC'S ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT BY HELPING IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF ITS INDUSTRIES ;SUGAR, POULTRY FARMS,TOURISTS HOTELS AND BEACHES, RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, BRIDGES, ROADS, TO NAME JUST THOSE. SO EDWARD, AND OTHERS LIKE YOU, STOP FOOLING YOURSELF AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OWES ITS DEVELOPMENT TO HAITI MUCH MORE THEN HAITI NEEDS THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. HOWEVER WE STILL NEED EACH OTHER FOR OUR MUTUAL BENEFIT. LA VERITE(LA VERDAD)

Ok, I'm writing this in response to Mr. Laverite. Your comment up there was all very well and good until this... "ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OWES ITS DEVELOPMENT TO HAITI MUCH MORE THEN HAITI NEEDS THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC." Lets be realistic now please, what has haiti EVER contributed to the DR except cheap workers and some border trade? And WHO is the country that is currently in the UN fighting for international recognition of the problems in haiti? The DR. So please, be realistic.

DannyVC,
YOU ARE NOT BEING REALISTIC YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE MENTIONNED THE VERY FACT THAT IT IS BECAUSE OF THAT CHEAP LABOR THAT HAITI SUPPLIES THE DR (AND IN WHAT CONDITIONS ) THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ENJOY SUCH DEVELOPMENT AND 'SOME BORDER TRADE' THAT IS WORTH OVER 500 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR NOT COUNTING WHAT IS PASSING ILLEGALLY THROUGH THOSE BORDERS.IN TWO OCCASIONS FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS THE DOMINICAN FARMERS PANICKED BECAUSE THEY REALIZED HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WERE GOING TO LOOSE AND PROBABLY BEING BANKRUPT IF WE HAD NOT DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THAT'S OUR CONTRIBUTION.THE DR IS PART OF THE UN JUST LIKE HAITI IS AND IT IS AN OBLIGATION ON THE PART OF ALL MEMBERS TO HELP EACH OTHER. BESIDES YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY EXCLUSIVITY ON THIS ISSUE SINCE MOST OF OUR SOUTH AMERICAN BROTHERS AND OTHER COUNTRIES FAR AWAY FROM THIS REGION ARE ALSO HELPING.GIVE ME A BREAK AND BE REALISTIC YOURSELF. LAVERITE(LA VERDAD)

Well, if Dominicans dont need Haiti, why dont they just end relationship with Haiti. Close the embassy, stop any contact between government officials. Build a 20 foot wall along the border to stop the "immigration headache". Deport all the 1 million Haitians back to were they came from. Once the Dominican Republic does that, all your problems are gone. No more Haitians begging in the streets of Santo Domingo...Its gonna be a "Paradis sur terre". Maybe DannyVC should go to D.R. and petition them to do that

TO DANNYVC
IN MY LAST MESSAGE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IT IS HAITIAN LABORERS WHO ARE BUILDING YOUR METRO AND PLEASE SPELL OUR COUNTRY THE RIGHT WAY AND NOT WITH SMALL LETTERS AS WE WOULD NEVER SPELL THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IN SUCH A WAY , WHICH SIMPLY SHOWS A LACK OF RESPECT AND CIVILITY ON YOUR PART.I HAVE PLENTY MORE TO SAY AND IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE I'LL WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER. BUT AS BUSH SAID TO THE IRANIANS: DON'T DO IT. LA VERITE(LA VERDAD)

TO DANNYVC
IN MY LAST MESSAGE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IT IS HAITIAN LABORERS WHO ARE BUILDING YOUR METRO AND PLEASE SPELL OUR COUNTRY THE RIGHT WAY AND NOT WITH SMALL LETTERS AS WE WOULD NEVER SPELL THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IN SUCH A WAY , WHICH SIMPLY SHOWS A LACK OF RESPECT AND CIVILITY ON YOUR PART.I HAVE PLENTY MORE TO SAY AND IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE I'LL WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER. BUT AS BUSH SAID TO THE IRANIANS: DON'T DO IT. LA VERITE(LA VERDAD)

Para el caballero Laverite,

Please let us examine the comment that I was originally responding to. "ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OWES ITS DEVELOPMENT TO HAITI MUCH MORE THEN HAITI NEEDS THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC". Now lets try and make sense of it, you are saying that the Dominican Republic is in fact, more dependent on haiti, then haiti on the DR. You are saying that in a hypothetical situation in which the countries were to be completely isolated from each other it would be the DR that would suffer greater economic loss. If this is NOT what you are saying, then please clarify your position. If it IS what you are saying then please respond and I will gladly continue.

The solution to end this bickering between DR and Haiti is for Haiti to bring all of its citizens back to Haiti and stop all trade with the DR. Haiti needs to build it's own sugar cane plantation to provide work for those Haitians that work in the DR's sugar cane plantation. And as far as trade, Haiti should trade only with the USA, Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, Cuba, Peurto Rico, Venezuela and Canada.

That is a good idea.

Haiti has been in isolation since January 1, 1804. If the rest of the world accepted The Haitians for what they had accomplished, Haiti would not have been in this state that it is right now. What amaze me is that The Haitians with all the problems that they have, never give up. They might be poor but they are one of the most respectable group of people on the planet. With the proper assistance from the international communities, Haiti can become prosperous.

It only proves that a sector of the Dominican Republic do not care for the welfare of the Haitian people. They are selling infected poultry to the Haitians with full knowledge that it can and will kill millions of Haitians. This is genocide.

to: JohnUSA,
Im glad to hear that someones sees the same thing that I do.

That sector not only doesn't care a thing for the haitians, mr. John, it doesn't care a thing for us, people from the dominican middle and lower classes either. A proof of that is that in some supermarkets, some foodstuffs are sold which are almost on the point of rottenness. Worse yet, some merchants are so damned greedy, that they prefer letting their food merchandise to rotten rather than selling them at a cheaper price, and, as they have enormous political power, they are free to do as they please, because the DR, as a Third World country, doesn't have the luxury of having consumer's protection institutions as the US does and the citizens are way too disorganized and individualistic to properly defend their rights.

To all haitians: wake up from your dream that you are a gold mine and look to how much you have destroyed your side of the island.
You are the poorest country in the hemisphere so instead of attacking DR build your country, work together, support a new way of life.
Seems to be that you want to live in the past and that's why you don't get international recognition because you don't want to grow up as human beings.

To all haitians: dear brothers We have people like Juan Luis Guerra, Michael Camilo, Oscar de la Renta, etc etc.
Also in NY, Ma and RI we have a few politicians so why you always want to show up that you are a big deal worldwide I have never seem any positive action that could be recognized worldwide and done by haitians.
You are a bunch of ungrateful people and you actions will always prove what you have in your brain cells.
Be realistic and move on to stop being mediocre..................

The reason that We don't close the embassy in Haiti is because if We do something like that We would be placing ourselves to your same level (Wild people).
Love comments (Jemesouviens) this is the proof that you are not up to our same lever of class.
Same way that you want to kill our president 3 years ago when arrived in your junkyard (worldwide the rest of the planet saw by themselves why you are a backward society)
The same president Leonel Fernandez and the only one in DR history that granted scholarships to haitians so they could go to our colleges, same one that lets haitian womens to use our hospitals(FREE) and paid by the same dominicans that you have so much.
This devil president and his cabinet also is trying to help Haiti asking the UN that Haiti needs help
(Not even France) does this.
And at the end his payback by haitians going to your dirty country was trying to assasinate and get rid of the same person that is helping haitians like nobody else....you get my point

To DannyVC,
This is exactly what I mean, if it was not for for the inhuman exploitation of the Haitian workers on whose back and sweat the Dominican economy has been building for the last fifty years, working conditions which have been documented times and over,you would not be at the level you are now.Haiti has been a gold mine which is being exploited to the fullest by the DR regardless of the subhuman treatment being given to our workers.
As to RUBIROSA, our junkyard contains a lot of valuable items that the Dominicans come and get on a regular basis. By the way ,your name reminds me of a family that was not so civilized by butchering 30 thousand Haitians.And since our independance, we never begged any other country to be part of them. So if you are criticizing look up your history and learn how low you reached as a people and on that matter we have a lot to teach you.LAVERITE(LA VERDAD)

To Laverite: can you please mention the valuable items that you said you have and make me laugh a little bit, as for the 30,000 that We supposedly killed deducted all the ones that your wild and butchery people killed during your 22 years occupation.
Get a life and get your act together because your people will always live and existe on being pathetic to the rest of human beings.

RUBIROSA, SINCE YOU ASKED ME TO PLEASE MENTION THE VALUABLE ITEMS THAT YOU ENJOY HERE,I SEE THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE BLANCOS DE LA TIERRA WHO REFUSE TO FACE THE REALITY THAT EXIST BETWEEN HAITI AND DR AND ALSO SHOWS YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES.BESIDES GRABBING OUR COFFEE AND OTHER AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS AND MAKE IT LOOK AS IF IT'S GROWN IN THE DR, YOUR TECHNICIANS ARE WORKING IN OUR FACTORIES,YOUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED HERE AND YOUR WOMEN ARE ALL OVER OUR PUBLIC PARKS.THOSE ARE BUT A FEW ITEMS THAT WILLSHOW HOW MUCH WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WILL MAKE YOU HAVE A YELLOW LAUGH, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.IF THEY ARE ALL HERE, SOMETHING MUST BE GOOD FOR THEM AND I DARE YOU TO SHOW ME THE CONTRARY.LAVERITE(LA VERDAD)

Hay Mr. JRRubirosa, I feel so sorry for you. We Dominicans owed to the Rubirosa name only problems and the infactuation of our dictator to make Dominican men think like Rubirosa, well he was sucessful in doing so. Today, Dominicans, and BTW I am Domincan, today Dominican men rate themselves of how many women they have or how many times they cheated on their wife and how children they have in the streets. If you look at the number Mr. Rubirosa, more than 60% of Dominican house holds in the U.S. are composed of single maternal family and more than 65% of all dominican families live below the poverty line in the U.S. You are simply wrong to assume that because we have a few artists that do not contribute to the Dominican society we are better than others. Countries in our global community are rated by their technological advances and contributions to the greater good of society in terms of medicine and other things that help the human race continue its march. You are such a fanatic.

Moreover, Mr. JRRubirosa, let me burst your superiority bubble as you try to write in between the lines. Hre in the U.S. where you live, our Dominican reputation is worst than that of Haitians, which is something that Dominicans often fail to see. Go to your local police department and compare the crime rate among both groups, gang activities and drug sale indictments. I am a realist and I'll always look forward in bettering my people here in the U.S. so to waste time putting one group that holds the same position in the eyes of white Americans than our is simply nonsense. Seriously, sometimes I realy think that some of the Dominicans that post do not read a damn thing or do not watch the news or simply have eyes flaps like horse and do not look to the sides when they are walking around in their neighborhoods. Do something about the destruction of Dominican neighborhoods in the U.S. You mentioned RI, I have been there and I also have friends in Warwick, a town that whites, cont..

are defending tooth and nails to prevent Dominicans from coming after what is happened to Providence. I have friends who attended Brown and they are Dominican that choose to live in Warwick and not Providence, you should here what they say. Stop your reckless behavior and do a self evaluation before criticising others.

@LAVERITE, please don't write all in uppercase, it's agains the rules. Besides, it's hard on the eyes.

JRRubirosa, everyone knows you are 50% Haitian. So stop the hate.

Thank you DaniDr for reminding me about the capital letters that I use. It is being corrected right away.Laverite.

I thought that last comment by Laverite was pretty comical. I thought I was going to have a conversation with someone who actually knew what they where talking about. Instead he talks about coffee. If Dominican companies are involved in haiti do you know what its for? Its to try and help out over there and build some sort on infrastructure. You think it's for the companies benefit? Believe me wages are low enough in DR, imagine in haiti. As for all the others in here who think they are adding to the conversation by trying to humiliate the Dominican community in the US then pleaseeee go and start a haititoday.com and leave this site for those who want to see the DR succeed.

To John Usa: I was born and raised in a beatiful and civilized city in the DR 100% dominican but I'm not going to give the pleasure to mention where I was born so you don't post ignorant comments.

JRRubirosa I am going to tell you where I was born because I for one part is not afraid of my background and I endulge in telling people about my humble beginings. I was born in small town that make up the outskirt of Santiago. The town is called pastor bella vista, to a single mother who worked cleaning at the hospital, today I am making a six figure salary in NYC. You see JRRubirosa I am one of those people that people like you like to say that I act white because I am educated and are making a lot of money in a nice clean office with a few secretaries. I am sure that you are one of those that is dying of envy when you another Dominican flourishing in the U.S. Who knows, maybe our cleaning lady who is Dominican BTW is one of your relatives.

John, do not waste your time with ungreatful Dominicans. My wife father is always bashing the U.S., so I keep telling him to go back and never does, lol. I also tell him when he comes to my house not to eat or drink the good food and expensive wine, because it comes from America. He sure does not like it, but I love giving him a shot of reality. BTW, only those Dominicans that are working in factories and that are living in poverty in the U.S. think like JRRubirosa.

To DannyVC
I also thaught that I was corresponding with somebody who had some knowledge of how international contracts are allowed. First that business of Dominican companies trying to help build the infrastructure in Haiti is not done for free. There are rules attached to those contracts and the best bids are accepted and are not based on local wages but on competitive offers. If the Dominican companies were not making a profit on those jobs, they would not participate knowing their insatiable thirst to make money one way or the other.So, once more, be more realistic and face the facts that we are contributing to the economic development of the Dominican Republic.Laverite(Laverdad)

To Dagtan: I have a very good job and investments in DR and let me tell you something smart I haven't met yet in NY a haitians that owns a supermarket or grocery store.
Dominicans own most of the supermarket and grocery stores in NY so get a life and settle down
your primitive comments.
I also live in a very good and exclusive area and so most of dominicans related to me, my in-laws and finally another example on Spanish radio stations most of the DJ's are from DR too.
Why you guys get so offended when you have nothing logic to say.
I was already tired that all haitians believe that own this space (dominican newspaper) and also a dominican website.

To: Rubirosa,
Of course Im not on the same level as you sir....Im above and much more smarter than you, based upon the comments you are saying. Its amazing that when you dont have viable argument, you turn to bashing and trashing the nation of Haiti. I think you been reviewing to many speeches of Balaguer, and Trujillo. Furthermore, I find it weird that if you go anywhere in the world, Africa, Europe, Asia and ask them about the Dominican Republic, nobody knows anything pertaining to the history of your country. Theres no distinguishing event that stands out in their mind about your nation. Some have not even heard of it. On the other hand, everyone knows about the history of Haiti.They all know about the struggle....Events in the world have been motivated because of Haiti (Male Slave revolt). You need to do a little soul searching my friend. Liberate-Free Yourself- Or Die Trying. "l'union Fait la Force".

Rubirosa, JohnUSA just gave you a lesson on both countries' history which I hope you will not forget and remind you of how much Haiti contributed to the Dominican Republic, whether you like it or not. Laverite(Laverdad)

Hay JRRubirosa, you are a sad case. I am really sad to know that you and I come from the the same country. I hope that you do not talk like that in front of your educated friends, that is if you have any. I have been humbled by my life expereince and the ability to enjoy certain privileges that were simply of my dream when I was living in DR. Today I dedicate my life to helping others and sharing some of the wealth that I have been able to accumulate over the years. With the last natural disaster we donated a few boxes of food to our local Y, to help people in the DR. I also enquired about Haiti and they told me that this going on on the one across town, so I drove and donated the same amount. At the end of the day Dominicans and Haitians have a sinbiotic relationhips and no one can deny that.

To: Dagda, jemesouviens, JOHNUSA and TAVERITA.

Guys don't waste your time with these Dominican KKKs, their ignorance go beyond any imaginable thing.

@JRRubirosa, those bodegas that you assimilate as success are haven for drug dealers. You are right. There is a bodega in every corner of Washington Heights (haven for drug dealers). It proved my point that you are here in the USA due to your drug proceeds.

Dominican Today removed my historical facts about Haiti and DR. This is not fair. JRRubirosa, FranktheTank, and DannyVC posted racist comments but they are not removed but I post facts and they are removed.

JohnUSA,
This is an other gross example of human rights violation and the right that people have to express their opinion in a free press, which obviously Dominican Today does not respect nor believe in. But do not worry, the lesson has been taught and history can not be erased and will always be reminded in due time. I am sure that many people ,as I did ,had printed that important part of this exchange that can always be referred to.Congradulations on your knowledge of both countries' history. Laverite(Laverdad)

JabaoHaitian!! i eat better than you i billion times, so dont talk *****.. Haiti is worst than our country, thats not a big deal for us.. um i live here, did i got affected no!, did my familiy & Friends got affected, NO! so i dont care. i hope one of this years a good president will come, maybe me, maybe someone else and problem resolve, ta'Ta Ta! :)

This is my mind, i give a damn about Haiti, and i wish it never excisted.... we could become 100% independent from, if we think more smart and with less bourocracy we could do lots of change.. but for now i dont think so, but probably in a near future it will :) and im really happy for that..

is funny to see you peopel calling us KKK crap!!!.... ahaha you dont even imagine how awonderful life i had in my childhood in this amazing country of mine, i never thinked about ingorant people and Haitians, i just live as normal, i had everthing i needed , my public school, my familiy friends my Tv :D, my scooter my dad bought.. me ahahaha its so wonderful its like the " Dominican dream" .. i still live that and i dont have any problems im really smart, no elelctricity, i joined money to buy a solar panel and heating for the water, no water , me and my father desinged a sytem that collects water from the rain, but we dont use that alot theres enought water, and everythign else Internet , Phone .. its kooool :) i like it

i bought a ps3!! i work at a local super market! and everything koool

Bueno, ya basta. Enough talking about haiti, this is DOMINICANTODAY! My country grows more prosperous every day, our economy is growing we are gaining international recognition, our sport stars and artist are known throughout the world, millions of tourist flock here every year, our technology is growing, we will soon have a metro, our democratic institutions are getting stronger, soon we will have a free and transparent election. All I can say is E' Pa' Lante que Vamo!! Jajajaja Que Viva la Republica.

Im a little confused to why "DominicanToday" did not delete Euromax racist and anti-Haitian rethoric comments that he posted. If it was me who did something like that I would be deleted in seconds.

@jemesouviens1804: That is because "Dominican Today" support the destruction of Haiti. They suppress the truth and manipulate the Dominican people.

@Euromax: As you goal of someday of becoming DR's president will never happen. DR does not need another (brutal dictator)Trujillo . The Dominican people are smarter than you think.

@JOHNUSA: I think you get too personal. One you discuss something you can disagree to all the extent you wish, but respect should always prevail, even if you disagree. I don't think Dominican Today supports the destruction of Haiti, where you get that from?

JOHNUSA, i support the destruction of Haiti, thats my personal opinion and i think DominicanToday has lots a freedom of speach, thats why i love them.... respect my opinion, its good for the country if you dont believe it.. still :b

Haiti Gone= no more border patrol budget, no more destruction of our economy, no more unemployed Dominicans ,almost no more problems!

@DaniDr: I respect Dominican Today but Dominican Today does not respect free speech. I posted FACTS about DR and Haiti and Dominican Today removed them. While other comments which contains offensive language and discriminatory expressions posted by other individuals were not removed. You tell me who's taking it personal?

@Euromax:: Before DR there was Haiti. In fact the whole Island was Haiti.

Ok, I really thought I was done with this article; but just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. This is for JOHNUSA on his last comment...the city of Santo Domingo de Guzman was founded by Bartolome Colon in 1496. The first permanent European settlement in the new world. Spanish culture, as in the Spanish language, customs, religion and so forth, as continued today by the Dominican Republic, has been on the island long before French or hatian.

@DannyVC: Prove to us that DR existed before Haiti.

You're grasping at straws my friend.

Ok, mr. John, here's the proof: Until the XVII century (1600's), all the island was a spanish colony-settlement called "La Española" (from which the name "Hispaniola" given in all US maps comes from). The situation changed when the Spanish Crown discovered that the settlers of the western towns of Santa Maria de La Vera Paz (were the current Port au Prince is located), Yaguana (the current Leogane), Puerto de Paz (Port de Paix) and Bayajá were trading with protestant pirates from the Netherlands, violating the Spanish Crown's monopoly on trade. That situation prompted King Phillip III to order the raze of those towns and the relocation of their populations to the eastern part. This chapter of the history of the island is called the "Devastations of Osorio", named so after the spanish governor, Antonio Osorio, who carried out the orders on the years 1605-1606. After remaining half a century abandoned, french pirates started to settle in the western part of the island, (cont...)

(cont...), pirates captained by one Bertrand D'Ogeron, who, after securing authorization on the French Crown, gave it form as the colony of Saint Domingue in 1661. After years of warfare between the spanish inhabitants and the french pirates, Spain gave recognition to the existing status quo in the Treaty of Ryswick (1691). Initially, the economy of french Saint Domingue based itself on the hunting of wild boars and the plantation of tobacco, but, after the wild boar became extinct on that part of the island and the prohibitions against tobacco on Europe became stinging, the colony changed its economy to one of sugar, coffee and cocoa plantations, following the model set by the English on Jamaica. Starting with the administration of governor Jean Baptiste Ducasse (1710), the french colony started to import thousands upon thousands of african slaves to cultivate its plantations. (Cont...)

(cont...) from which time the prosperity of the french colony can truly be traced. But the french, like the english on Jamaica, could not hope to maintain this type of economy without facing the dangers of seeing slave rebellions flare up from time to time. Specially brutal was the one of Makandal, which would go to terrorize that colony for a good part of the 1750's, killing about 6,000 colonists and destroying countless plantations before he was captured and hanged on Cap Francais (1756). This situation was specially urgent, considering that, by 1789, Saint Domingue's population was as follows: 40,000 white colonists, 30,000 from mixed race (usually the offsprings of white planters with slave women, because Saint Domingue, like eastern spanish part, characterized itself for having very few european women), and about 500,000 slaves from different parts of Africa, the only thing keeping this slaves together being their common hatred of the white man (cont...)

(cont...) hatred which, combined with the exclusion and exploitation which the whites unleashed upon them, gave them the time an opportunity that a century of oppression can give, to create a common language (creole) and religion (voodoo), some scholars pointing to 1750 as the date that can mark the time from which this language and religion are known in their definitive forms. From 1789 onwards you all know the rest of the history: The principles French Revolution gave rise to the slave rebellion of 1791, from which the alliance of the ex-slave leaders (Toussaint, Dessalines, Christophe) with the ones of the coloured population (Petion, Boyer, Gerin), would finally end up toppling the colony and giving birth to Haiti (1804). If you want more info, just search for the archives of France's ministry of marine (if you know french), or the archives of the US library of Congress, since Saint Domingue was, until its destruction, the US main trading partner in the western hemisphere.

@Lauro: You failed to prove DR existed first. The only thing you prove which everyone knows, is that Spain landed on the Island, kill all the Taino Indians, kidnapped Africans from Africa and enslaved them on the Island. Spain then handed the western part to France and kept the eastern part. France followed the footstep of the Spaniards by kidnapping more Africans and enslaving them. The Africans on the western side got tired of slavery, united and liberated the western part from the French. They then marched to the eastern part and liberated the eastern part of the island from the Spaniards, thus uniting the Whole island as Haiti. Dominican Republic as a nation did not exist yet. Please keep in mind I am not taking anything away from the Dominican Republic. I respect the Dominican Republic as a nation. But, one just can not disregard the truth.

The country and state per se didn't exist, mr. John, but the PEOPLE that would form it fighting the independence war existed long before Haiti came to the imagination of Dessalines. In fact, were we to apply your reasoning, then I'll ask you to demand from your government the demolition of the monument honoring the haitians on Savannah, because, based on your reasoning, it would be a physical imposibility for the haitians to have existed before 1804, because then, the expeditionary soldiers that that monument honors for participating in the american independence battles of the 1770's would not be haitians but in fact, frenchmen, owing to the fact that, when the battle for Savannah occured, Haiti was still the french colony of Saint Domingue. Who's disregarding the truth now, mr. John? If you want to apply a reasoning for one case, then you'll have to apply it to all cases.

How would you call then the descendants of the Spaniards, Africans and Tainos that remained on the eastern part of the island after the devastations, mr. John? Martians? Aliens?

In fact, mr. Núñez de Caceres, the one that proclaimmed the Spanish Haiti that you mentioned on one of your post, when delivering the keys of Santo Domingo city to Boyer, warned him about the deep cultural differences separating both populations of the island "as the Alps and the Pyrennees separate France and Spain", differences that would, if not bridged on time an on a prudent manner, produce another separation of the island. Events would go to prove him right on his warnings.

Of course people existed. The Taino Indians were on the Island long before the Spaniards. The Spaniards annihilated the Taino Indians then kidnapped the Africans from Africa and brought them to the island. The Island was later divided in two. One side Spain as the slave master and the other side France as the slave master. There were slaves on both sides of the island. The slaves on the western side of the Island decided to fight for their freedom and kicked out the French masters then marched to eastern side and liberated their brothers and sisters and kicked out the Spaniards.

If reality is as simplistic as you put it, mr. John, then why are there two nations within the same island? Care to enlighten me, wise one? Why didn't the "brothers and sisters" stay living together happily ever after?