En las palabras de mi sobrino "uh ooooh!" Do you still want the Haitians to leave?

Uh oh, is right! But this is only the beginning. Just wait until even higher prices and inflation kick in as food supplies declines significantly because the products are rotting on the ground (instead of being harvested). We already see price gouging from Merchants who purposely fail to pass on savings from DR-CAFTA to Dominican consumers....

Well, you ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait until Merchants have real justification to push prices higher on more limited supplies. WOW!

Immigration must be controlled but you can not get it into a Psychotic group think and bring violence which is what Dominicans have done. Of course, the RD Gov & police are "worthless". So, it creates greater social problems now, that will accelerate when limited supply meets with demand pull inflation.

There is not real leadership in RD Gov to "manage immigration" for greater efficiency of goods & services while eliminating waste for a more efficient marketplace.

why not get our exiting boat people jobs in the fields. Start with Fernandez.

Ofrezcome! Boy a tenel que trabajal pa'comel

Time to go to Haiti and shop for "Braceros" since Dominicans are too "macho" to work for a living and their food.
This is what happens when people have learned to vote themselves a "free lunch".
The days of subsidies and "birth to death" support of the population is rapidly coming to a close.
Get ready for a huge tsunami of robberies in the cities and in the countryside if the crops can't be harvested.
The "chain gangs" are coming, so get used to the idea.

TB

I vote to recruit Puerto Ricans to come and work the harvest, they sure need the jobs.
There should be a campaign to recruit them instead of Haitians.

What about Peña Gomez, are they going to take him with them (digg out), or we love some Haitians and some dont?
Whos going to cut sugar cane and build constructions?
Shame on you people.
Sram vas bilo bre.
Milos Korac

This problem is simple... RAISE THE PAY for Dominicans, they will do it...

Generoso,que chistoso !!!
What about a spot on COMEDY CENTRAL ?

"I vote to recruit Puerto Ricans to come and work the harvest, they sure need the jobs.
There should be a campaign to recruit them instead of Haitians."

Ha hah, you must be crazy and got it all twisted! Puero Ricans are not the ones to migrate to the Dominican Republic, it is the other way around. Dominicans migrate to Puerto Rico and receive the same treatment they give to Haitians in DR. If anything else, Dominicans are the ones who should be begging Puerto Rico to recruit them. What world have you been living in and what is the drug you have been taking (lol)? Get you migrant immigration flux stories straight!

TO RUBIROSA;
You haven't open your big stinking mout h yet regarding how essential are the haitian workers to the economic development of the Dominican Republic.
Come on, be strong, stick to your beliefs, be a real man. LA VERITE.

"Ha hah, you must be crazy and got it all twisted! Puero Ricans are not the ones to migrate to the Dominican Republic, it is the other way around."

Afrolatino, I don't believe generoso has it twisted. Actually, if you do the research you will find out that once upon a time Puerto Ricans did work in DR fields to make a living. And to generoso's point, at the rate the situation in PR is going, they might as well start considering their options since breastfeeding off of the U.S. doesn't seem to be working anymore! Anyway, the solution to this problem is simple: There are plenty of Dominicans that can and will do these jobs, but for the right pay, benefits, and working conditions. That's all there is to it really, it's not rocket science people.

Yes, they are migrating to P.Rico, but after all Dominican are coming back to D.R. not to Porto Rico, anyway there is nothing there, except a little rock with few bushes.

And I have seen many P.Ricans coming here in D.R. and I know few girls from P.Rico, doing what they usually do in P.Rico.

P.R. or D.R.

This is what is called shooting yourself in the foot.

Time for consequences. Some of you suggest the farmer's raise the pay, but then this means they must raise their prices as well. Which means the Dominicans will want more pay. In their frustation they'll chase more Haitians out, and the cycle continues. There is not much in the way of right or wrong in this situation, only a sad display of the so called dismal science. All that can be said is time for economic consequences.

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Written by: CarlosFranco, 3 Nov 2008 1:51 PM
From: United States

This problem is simple... RAISE THE PAY for Dominicans, they will do it...
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Carlos have you ever taken any economic courses at all ?? try the law of supply and demand and (ROI) the return on investment theory

http://www.curriculumlink.org/econ/materials/sdlaws.html

Your ignorance and your bias shine...

"Who's going to cut sugarcane and build constructions?"

Sugarcane - it's called a combine machine, it cuts dozens of tons every hour and can be operated by one man. Mathematical calculations show one can replace 2,000 hand cutters. Advanced technology is there, there is no "need" for Haitian workers. The problem is that they run on fuel, and the greedy plantation owners don't want to fork up the expense. But those greedy plantation owners aren't even providing Dominicans with jobs, so really what difference does it make if they close down, they're just using up our land.

Construction - Considering that real estate prices are already moving up to US rates (even if it's at the lower end of the scale), developers can easily pay anyone liveable DR wages. What a construction worker in the US makes in one week will suffice for one month in DR. The bottom line: developers can afford to pay but need to be forced. And if that doesn't work, they can start building pre-fab, less time & $.

The issue of migrant Hatian workers is a serious one that can only get worse as the international community continues to ignore Haiti. Dominicans in DR and abroad need to start getting creative in their solutions to reduce dependency on this labor. Facilitating their entry into the country to benefit a few terratenientes and wealthy city entrepreneurs is not working. Sadly as we have seen in Neyba and Guayubin, it's the poorest Dominicans that feel the pressure of this additional presence (not the ones that hire them and ride around in their private cars).

Rubi,

Get to work!

GO READ THIS POST ---> http://www2.dominicantoday.com/dr....rted-to-cannibalism-to-stay-alive

Look, someone suggested that they replace the Haitians with machines in the sugar fields. Well, that would mean that even Dominicans would still not get the job since it will now or then require less human physical involvement in the process. Because the machine would replace the work of five persons and perhaps just only one would require to operate the machine if even any human beings at all. So how does that help again the crisis again?

As for Construction, the same thing applies. There is this essences called "Supply and Demand" that as a business man or woman ask yourself this question honestly. If you must pay someone to do a job for you for $4.00 an hour with or among other incentives, yet find someone else willing to do the very same job for you for $2.00 an hour and without any other incentive. Who would you hire?

Before 1985 (before Baby DOC left), Dominican did almost all the agriculture and contruction work! So don't give me the "I don't know how to survive" act because Dominicans are hard workers! The phoney thing is that Haitians committ crimes in STO DGO, Santiago, Hato Mayor, SPM and Bavaro. The only difference is that the Dominicans in those areas do not react the same way MonteCristi did. That complaisance is what will destroy DR since if you don't turn up the heat on the Haitians, they will continue coming and implanting their destructive behavior on DR to the point that there won't be any difference between DR and Haiti!

The prisons are full of able bodied men.

Pay them a minimal salary and use the military to supervise.

Rehabilitate them and teach them discipline , good hard work and sweat equity.

Greenwave,

I agree this complacency can kill DR, but the problem is that the people of Montecristi had the wrong target. People who cross a border looking for a better life are not the problem, it's the landowners that hire them and the government that lets them in. It's a proven fact that mass Haitian migration occurs every time Leonel Fernandez is in office and yet people concerned about this issue continue to vote for him because he's building a metro, skyscrapers, talks nice, travels around the world, etc (this even includes Vincho Castillo's people).

There have also been accusations that the priest that heads "Solidaridad Fronteriza" is directly/indirectly responsible for the presence of Haitians at least in the Northwestern part of the country, and yet no one's done anything about this. Those responsible for creating this mess are the ones that need to be targeted, not innocent victims.

Rubi,

This your perfect opportunity to organize all the Haitian haters here on DT into agricultural and construction volunteer brigades and address this labor crisis. Come on Rubi roll up your sleeves and in some cases others take of your sheets and defend the motherland!

Like Mc Lame Country First!

It's funny that some people are avoiding the topic of who's putting up all these high -rises, hotels, apts. I would be more concerned with my country being sold-off to foreign interest of which many are criminals.

If these entrepreneurs ever have to pay a decent living wage, they will pack-up their mess and go exploit another market.

They and the Domincan elite want to turn Santo-Domingo and other parts of the country into Manhattan and Miami beach and leave 75% of the people a*s out.

por favor , please could you stop the chest pumping , the exercise in futility,the vain and pompous rethoric and participate or witness (if you can not vote) history in the making.
a mulattoe (son of a black african and a white european) could be president of the united states,
whether you are haitian,dominican ,hater ,demaguogue, your life will never be the same anymore should obama becomes president.
put aside your rancor and ask what you can do for your countries.
ask ypurself how i could become myself president of my coountry and improve the lives of my fellow citizen.
channel the energy produced by your rage and anger to more constructive purposes.
peace and love
obama ,the first mulattoe president of the united states

That, my friend, means nothing, because he will not change one iota of the direction in which the special interests lobbies on DC have led the US to plunge itself in. If any, I find it highly rich and amusing from them to name us dominicans as racists when we already had mulattoes and black presidents when they were still dealing with the slave system in the South.

Lautaro glad to hear from you, anyway that bank's bail out, which was authorized by the US congress in the amount of 600 billion will dwarf compare to what will happen next I believe the us is no longer in a position to pay their debt, the only way to get rid of it is to introduce a new currency.

You guys all made good suggestions as viable solutions to the Haitian problem. I truly believe that once you reduce the number of illegal workers you force employers to provide better pay and improve working conditions as an incentive for Dominicans to work the fields. Otherwise the continued presence of an illegal work force, will simply take away jobs and continue to depress salaries. Dominicans will work if they are adequately paid. They did it in the past and will do it now. They already perform menial labor in other countries regardless of their legal status and work very hard to earn it. But they are paid sufficiently to support themselves and send money back home. Another option is to use prisoners to pick crops. Heck, that is better then to be locked-up all day. To control the flow, the gov't should provide a limited number of temp work visas for Haitians, but they must return once expired or harvest is over. Also, mechanization is the best way to get rid of Haitian labor.

They'll have to thread carefully then, antonio, cuz' I doubt that the other big countries will swallow the fact of having their rights to US patrimony dissappearing as a whiff of smoke.

We all know the real situation. Corporations are looking for cheaper labor. The same is the issue with USA. Fields in DR are worked mainly by Haitians fields in the USA are worked mainly by Central Americans, because it's more of a profit for the corporations. Road signs are built by prisoners "free labor"(or taxpayers money) hell Nike Jordans etc are made in foreign countries because of cheap labor. So it's not that we don't have able or willing bodies in the US or DR we just can't compete with the guys who work for less. We have a slaughter house here in Augusta Ga. you'll think because of the hard physical draing work starting pay at least would be at $11 -$12. First day of orientation they tell me $6.50 was the old wage now they start at $8 max out at $11. 12 hrs per day I walked out upon hearing that. Call me lazy and arrogant but it wasn't the work that made me walk out it was the pay....This the same slaughter house FPL that was caught with 225 illegal workers last month.

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Written by: Lautaro, 4 Nov 2008 12:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic
They'll have to thread carefully then, antonio, cuz' I doubt that the other big countries will swallow the fact of having their rights to US patrimony dissappearing as a whiff of smoke.
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No doubt Lautaro here a link here, let me know what you think ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1954933468700958565&hl=es

I know Hal Turner is an extreme fringe, however his commentary make alot of sense when taking in context.

kmnupe, you are always the voice of reason. Dominicans fail to understand who it is that is depressing wages in the country. things are interconnected; the economy is a continuum. if one aspect of it becomes depressed, the rest follows. so, if wages in the construction industry are unjust, then wages in agriculture would follow. as kmnuoe illustrates, the foreign interests, in the mad race to the bottom, are the ones who pay pittances, give no benefits, and create a virtual pool of slave labor. the public gets no protection from these vultures; the government allows them to do what they please, because every official is paid off. so guys who drove trains and buses in europe and the usa, come here with their life savings, looking for maximum benefits from their dollars. 200,000 would get them a garage in key west, but they want a mansion here. so, they buy a piece of land, and get contractors to build them fancy digs, with swimming pools, for next to nothing. then comes the owners's

associations to declare their colonies "gated communities", where locals need permission to enter. yet, Dominicans are mad at haitians, giving the gringos a pass. if every haitian left the country, do you believe Dominican salaries would rise? there are enterprises in which haitians are not in evidence; how high are those salaries? are housekeepers doing great? child care women? not really. as to the suggestion of prefabricated houses; will not work here. i already looked into it. in order to be economically viable, the market for low and middle income housing has to be very vibrant. mortgage funding has to be available. this is not the case here. so, forget that idea for now.

..............

This is a horrible; we can not blame the majority for the crimes of the minority. For the alleged crime of one or two Haitians we can not kill and attack innocent people. What is the real reason that the Dominicans are doing these types of acts?
Many Dominicans do like the fact that the country is getting blacker by the minute and the majority of the babies born In DR are of Haitians decent. Many Dominican women are marring Haitian men and a lot of those same men are becoming more and more prosperous.

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You can say a lot of Dominicans are green with envy.
Another reason is that Dominicans are lacking in education, it is better to use or laws then to take the law into their own hands.
Remember that the MAJORITY of Dominicans have black blood in them.
The excuse the Haitians invaded DR years “centuries” ago is just an excuse, several Haitians and black Dominicans that are decedents of Haitians have fought for the Dominican Republic.

3
Haitians did not come the island of their own free will, they came in French slave ships to cut sugar for the Rich French slim. IF THIS CONTINUES you I can predict a tourism boycott that would cost DR dearly.
I AM NOT PRO- Haitians, but these are the facts!!

Dreadlocks your are correct we are giving the gringos a pass, they own or land they have invaded use more times then the Haitians and they do not even allow use to govern our selves.

So if race according to you is the problem, can you explain why the Bahamas which has a demographic almost identical to that of Haiti is having the EXACT SAME problems and are complaining about the EXACT SAME things Dominicans are complaining about regarding Haitian immigration?

Let’s be honest, we have a society in DR like this. The white Dominicans own the land and the black Haitians work it. At times the white Dominican would sleep with the Haitians workers crating the mulatos we have now. With very few Dominican capable of owning land in DR and the majority of that land now in the hands of foreign none Dominicans the Dominicans have grown poorer and desperate. And let me not forget UNEDUCTATED!!!!
The Dominicans have a mentality of superiority compared to the Haitians, even black Dominicans feel superior to the Haitians. I have heard of a black Dominicans girl once say she must marry a white man to fix the race.
These actions are all due to lack of education, if we “Dominicans” would realize the true issues of this country then we could prosper. But until then we will be Plagued these acts of brutality.

Written by: DominicanChic, 4 Nov 2008 10:55 PM

I do not condone the acts of the Haitians nor those of the Dominicans,

All countries have problems with immigrants,
DR with Haitians
France with Africans
Spain with Arabs, Africans, & Dominicans
The United States with Dominicans in NYC and Mexicans everywhere else.
PR with Dominicans

Remember, over the last 5 years more then 10,000 Dominicans have been deported from the United States.

Check out this Video
http://www.nuria.com.do/noviembre08/1nov/ataque.html

DOMINICANCHIC, I don't use RACE in my arguments, but, wanted to point out that a top enemy of black people IS black people.

Therefore, one group of people can be racist against another that looks exactly like them.

It's call self-hatred and subconscious inferiority-induced superiority complex.

Over 30% of Bahamians are from Haitian descent going back over 50 yrs. I know of another place with a large percentage of Haitian descendents, but, I'm not telling.

But, the DR/Haiti dynamics are not only racial.

Good to hear from you DREADLOCKS.

thank you, kmnupe. i was ill for a few weeks, but i defeated the dengue, finally.

Simplistic solutions like automated sugar cane cutting doesn't cut the mustard, I mean the sugar cane. (I am in a good mood today as elections are finally over and no big disaster happened).
Fidel Castro tried volunteer sugar cane cutting in the 70's and it was a big disaster as inexperienced
hands cut the wrong length and ruined the cane for the next year's crop. It's easier said than done.
I keep proposing to hire displaced Puerto Rican lawyers to come and cut the sugar cane and do the heavy construction work, they are genetically superior.....ok that's a joke stand easy!
By economic theory my friend the economist says that cheaper imported labor immediately raises the level or wage ceiling of present Dominican workers, and that humans migrate were there are more opportunities, food, water, is a natural phenomenon.
If we had borders with Mexico or the USA do you think for a New York minute that he Haitians
would be coming here?
Well maybe josean would, as he likes DR rum.

i lived in puerto plata for 15 years...... saw only haitians building the homes, buildings, doing the road work, cutting the sugar cane, {90 degree weather} from 6 am to 6pm for 500 or 600 pesos a day {$20us}........ saw many dominicans sitting on the malecone drinking their beer---- bull s----- with each other all day long..... and lots of bull s-........ like their army can defeat the united states army if they went to war with the u.s...... sitting around trying to think HOW they can rob someone for a few PESOS...... you guys are not going to do the work the HAITIANS DO.. not in this life time....go get a real job and stop trying to cheat every one.....in the end you only cheat your self.

i dont know about the rest of the country but for sure puero plata is some sh------ house for crooks, not only dominicans but GRINGOS from all over the world....nothing but lies in this city..... really i hope the whole country is not like these people....evry one there wants to become rich today not tomorrow...it does not work this way in the REAL WORLD.....

danny00,
yeah! they are a lot of crooks in Puerto Plata I have heard the same, and i don't know how can DR allow crooks from the U.S. to stay there

Generoso ,just want to say Hi.
I know you must feel realy happy today. You have witnessed history being made

Danny00, i could have written your article myself. especially the part about the gringos. i spent a substantial amount of time in Puerto Plata, and it has got to be the toilet bowl of the DR. gazillions of foul, scheming gringos, all looking to rip off each other, and everybody else. drunks, whose only calling in life appears to be chasing underage girls. i have no idea how they all ended up there; they must have some underground website which caters to the scum of the earth. the local dominicans have perfected the hustler culture, to fleece gringo. but Puerto Plata is not the DR; there are hard working, creative Dominicans all over the country, and i have met, and befriended, many of them

Written by: danny00, 5 Nov 2008 6:47 PM
From: United States
i dont know about the rest of the country but for sure puero plata is some sh------ house for crooks, not only dominicans but GRINGOS from all over the world....nothing but lies in this city..... really i hope the whole country is not like these people....evry one there wants to become rich today not tomorrow...it does not work this way in the REAL WORLD.....


A lot of them here are getting deported as well

not fast enough , chill. some of these gringos should be put on bamboo rafts and set adrift. they have no love for the country , nor its people. they are just here as parasites, stretching their money and being a pestilence upon the country. a pox on all their houses, i say! you know why i love San Jose de Ocoa, and places like that? no gringos!!!

Chillaxin201,

I love how you just oversimplified Dominican history to honor the erroneous myth of having "el Haitiano detras de la oreja." Here is some history to debunk it:

During the first 30 years of the Spanish conquest, women were not allowed to travel to the Americas (minus the prostitutes that slipped in), meaning almost all the children born in the island during that time were automatically mestizos or pure natives, and thus from it's inception the Dominican person had some color to them.

Once the native population dwindled, the Spanish imported slaves, African slaves that is (you know people who are also black), there was nothing even remotely related to a Haitian yet on the island.

Once the French got their slave empire up and running, there was little to no incentive to migrate east because there was nothing there. Repulsion of Haitians after their invasions alo kept their integration into Dominican society at a minimum.

etiennc: Hi!

chillaxin201:
I once read a book about the slave trade in Africa and it was enlightening. It was authored by a German fellow and very well documented. To sum it up quickly: They were constant tribal wars in Africa and the prisoners were always put to death. Then the Portuguese (of all people) came and told the tribal chiefs: "don't kill them all, they are worth money, sell them to us and we will use them like slaves", so the slave trade was actually started and kept going by the African themselves. They are some that theorize that the Portuguese saved a lot of lives as well. But it was the blacks themselves that continued capturing and slaving whole villages at a time.
Of course it was the white men that paid and created a bigger market for slaves in America because of the weak physical disposition of the indian natives.
Now in America a super race of slaves was created because the plantation owners only breeded
the best specimens with each other.

Continued:

In their struggle for resources, colonial powers brought in many black people from countries that were not Haiti (like the cocolos from the Southeast for example). The migration of whites from DR to the other caribbean islands during the invasion also automatically increased the percentage of the population that was black & mulatto.
In short, DR has had black influence from many places that are not Haiti. I don't doubt that there are Haitians that slipped in there, but to generalize that most Dominican mulattoes descend from Haitians is oversimplistic and downright inaccurate.

Cont:
Now you understand the excellence in sports, music, dance, of the American blacks
over blacks from other nationalities. It comes from that special genetic breeding that was done before the American civil war by the plantation owners.
This is being related as a point of information only without any judgement in my part. Just FYI.
And according to this book.
So I don't want to be bombarded by all the hate mail please.
Now Haitians came from a part of Africa that the tribes are not particularly aggressive, but they can
behave very cruelly and ruthlessly.
When the Americans invaded Haiti last time when Colin Powell gave the Haitian military junta an ultimatum. The elite army units that had experienced the brutal and savage fight in Somalia and they were prepared for the same in Haiti, but it didn't happen. The Haitian army and armed civilians never put up a token fight and surprisingly folded quickly to the amazement and surprise of the invading US military.

Now you can also argue that the American blacks have better infant nutrition, protein wise than
the blacks from other countries and this can be a factor too in adult strength and motor and mechanical ability. This can be also true.
In the future the men and women of let's say the next 500 years will be a mixture of the best qualities
of all the races and individual races will be almost extinct. The skin will be darker and more resistant to the sun and the head will be bigger to lodge a bigger brain.
Brings up a point: Last time I stayed at the marvelous Olofsson Hotel in Port Au Prince ( it was burned down) there was a guest book and guests were asked to sign in.
My curiosity got the best of me and I read a few pages and the name of Mick Jagger of the Rolling stones had been a guest there before and beside his name where it said: occupation: he had written...human being.
That's what some of us are trying to be!

interesting observations, generoso, but i do not necessarily agree with the idea of the athletic superiority of american blacks. on a per capita basis, it is not readily apparent. they have an advantage in their own sports such as basketball, but, when competing against other blacks, the advantages are not readily apparent. the Jamaican track and field team swept the floor with them at the last olympics. Dominican baseball players are every bit as good as they are. they have not produced a world class soccer player to date. they are great at american football, but not many countries play that sport. they do have advantages in infant nutrition and facilities for preparation, but the natural gifts are not much superior to other blacks. when last, for instance, did an american black win the marathon?

dread: You are correct, I really enjoyed the Jamaican track star and his carefreeness .
The Africans are the better long distance runners in the marathon. Those Ethiopians have the same resistance as ten of us.
Also why don't blacks excel in swimming? Winter sports? shooting? or diving?
I like American football, it's brutal and exciting, it's like the Roman arena.
Soccer is interesting to watch the few seconds they actually score a goal.
It's interesting how this conversation probably happened in Hitler's Third Reich at about 1936 the
time of the Berlin olympics when an American black runner beat the nazi's.
BTW it's always uplifting to have an intelligent conversation with a person of your caliber,
I mean there are a lot of flies out there ready to be swathed!
What's your opinion of why the Taino Indians were so weak and some American indian tribes
like the Cheyenne, the Comanche put up such a fight that the Indian wars went on for generations.
BTW Bob Marley was a God.

thank you for your kind remarks, generoso. Bob was my very good friend also. i met him while i was studying at the Institute of Social and Economic Research in Jamaica. i used to play soccer with him on sunday afternoons. my knowledge, and therefore opinion of the Taino Indians is beyond limited, so i cannot offer any ideas. but on to the subject of athletics; most of the excellence lies in training. since 1948, jamaica has been winning gold medals in track at the olympics, along witn the Bahamas and Trinidad. it is purely training. i do not believe that there is any genetic difference in the caribbean, to such a great degree. but even at high school level ,there are many world class track stars in jamaica, bahamas, and trini.

dread:
but all you guys in those countries eat well. It's very basic. I was telling this ex-NYC mayor that talking about getting an education is that just talk. Because when your belly is empty you can not sleep well.
And if you didn't have any breakfast except at school then it's hard to concentrate on the ABC's.
I mean the world has to throw at the starving countries like Haiti and even the DR just a bunch of food so we can eat, eat, eat. Then we can be educated, not before.
To solve America's hunger and the world hunger should be a priority in the new Obama administration.
Let's create peace with food not war.
I propose to raise the level of caring for one another. I propose that for the first time President Obama look south not only to the Rio Grande but further south all the way to the south pole and west to Africa and make it a goal of his administration 2009-2013 to eradicate hunger from the world.

actually , generoso, a Dominican social scientist ( i forgot his name) is of the opinion that children here underperform in schools, because the diet does not contain enough proteins, and has too much carbohydrates (platanos, arroz, pan de agua, etc). the result is underdevelopment of brain cells. the oriental children eat all kinds of creatures that would make guys like us puke, such as deep fried scorpions and all kinds of bugs. but it is all high protein. maybe that is why they do well academically, among other things. this might be absolute crap, but it is a thought to be considered.

laverite: what about your armpits???????

Do they smell the same as your own race?????

What you trying to prove with your lame comments????

Laverite:

If you want to quarrel with me please make sure to have the right weapons underneath your armipts.........SShhhhh

continuation,
No country in the world had let their land soil to die this way. We should control inmigration, that is the true. Other wise, we'll be another Haity, but at the same time we should help Haity

I agree with DominicanChic., Sugarcane combine machine is the solution .
As a child, I remember traveling from Santiago to the Puerto Plata heading to the beaches, intoxicated with the beaty and greenery of the landscape, the green rolling hills with brazing cows and colorful shacks. Once in Puerto Plata, we passed miles and miles of sugar cane crops, not believing bare hands could cut such a great amount of canes. I always wondered why at this stage of human evolution and machinery development we were still importing Haitians!
We DR must be humane to the Hatian . but also remember Haitians also bringing their mode of mind, why is it that Haity is much, much poorer that DR?? Whose fault is it that their let their soil erode to the main rocks?

POPONLABURRA, The question of whose fault it is that Haiti's soil has erode does not have a simple answer,

Haiti's soil has been eroding since the revolution. Unfortunately, there has not been any leaders with initiative to reverse the situation.


Who's fault is it? There are definitely Haitians involved, but, not the average citizen, not the very poor who are literally trying not to starve.

How many of us on this board have or has had no idea if we were going to eat today or tomorrow? If a storm came, our house would be washed away? Or would I ever get to go to school?

Let's see the hands.

What you see in HAITI is millions of people being held hostage, refugees in their own motherland.

Written by: dreadlocks, 5 Nov 2008 7:39 PM
From: United States
not fast enough , chill. some of these gringos should be put on bamboo rafts and set adrift. they have no love for the country , nor its people. they are just here as parasites, stretching their money and being a pestilence upon the country. a pox on all their houses, i say! you know why i love San Jose de Ocoa, and places like that? no gringos!!!

I got No love for the Gringos, Dominicans need to won more stuff in DR and not None Dominicans....

Remember I am a Socialist

DominicanChic
In my opinion, Haitians are blacks that speak a French dialect. I am aware that a large majority of the whites left DR during the wars. “Actually, most Puerto Ricans that do not like Dominicans do not know this, and they them selves might be decedents of Dominicans”.
And your comment about
"el Haitiano detras de la oreja."
No it might not be Haitians but it’s black none of the less…
I am not pro Haitian, but again I do not believe that Dominicans should attack innocent people like that. A lot of Dominicans would love to Kill all the Haitians and have the island to them selves. But, our economy depends on Haitian cheap labor. And as a have said it before they have helped us in wars. You must respect some one that is willing to shed blood for YOUR LAND!

We should have DNA testing on our backgrounds, who is down. But what does it matter either way “Soy Dominicano hasta la tambora ”

chill, i hope that when i use the word "gringo", people do not think it has a specific racial or ethnic meaning. some of the most miserable gringos i have mey are some american blacks who ooze around the village with airs of superiority, when they can barely write a legible sentence. so, before other gringos start looking for the ropes for a lynching, i want to clarify my position.

Specially GC, who never ceases to accuse you of dealing the race card time and again. Be prepared, dread, because he must be still sore about Johnnie Mac and Failin losing the elections.

TO rubirosa,
it took you three days to figure out an answer which just doesn't make sense and doesn't address the subject. I am a light skin Haitian and it is known that we smell better then your type of dominicans. Yes I want to fight with you, any time and my weapons are not under my armpits but in my brains which are far from your canibalistic tendencies.LA VERITE.

Mr Lautaro, i am considering a petition to the government to issue an All Points Bulletin, to see if GC can be located. a missing persons alert is also in order. he seems to have taken this defeat really badly.