MIAMI.-In the middle of a worldwide energy and financial crisis, the small economies of the Caribbean and Central America should unite to seek solutions, said specialists of the region that are present at the 32nd annual Caribbean & Central America Action (CCAA) conference in Miami that will come to a close this Wednesday.
"One of the problems of the economies of the Caribbean and Central America is that they are fragmented. For example, they don't have a common Stock Exchange process. These economies have to realize that they aren't secluded from the rest of the world, and must come together in finding solutions for the common problems they all share." said Anton E. Edmunds, executive director and general manager of the CCAA.
Over the past 32 years, the Caribbean & Central America Action Conference has brought together important points of view in the business sector as well as important politicians of the region and this year's conference is expected to bring even more up-to-date ideas on the decisions that need to be made by the governments and private sectors of the Caribbean and Central America.
In this sense, Rick Murrrel, president and general manager of the Tropical load Shipping Inc., said that "there are three important points for the economy and the future of the Caribbean: First, better communication and teamwork between the private and public sector; Second, more leadership and commitment from the private sector within the community; And third: to attack the deficiencies of the Caribbean so that it becomes a globally competitive region"
What's important to emphasize here is the magnitude of the impact that a crisis in neighboring countries of Central America and the Caribbean would cause. The poverty in the region would not only mean more immigration, but also cause border control problems and population dissemination, all at a time when various countries within the region have important elections in the coming year.
"It is important that these economies maintain stability and not seek other sources of income, such as prohibited drug trafficking, simply because of their strategic location", emphasized Edmunds.
The agreement being signed today by Scotiabank and the Inter-American Investment Corporation, member of the Inter-American Bank of Development, to help to identify and support small and medium industries in the Caribbean that have great potential of development.
"For more than 120 years, Scotiabank has been an ally and supporter for small and medium businesses in the Caribbean", emphasized Pat Minicucci, leader of Scotiabank in the Caribbean. "This association with ICC allows us to deepen our relations with small and medium businesses throughout the Caribbean, by working jointly with the ICC in helping to grow and to succeed".
In turn, Jorge Roldán, leader of the Division of technical Support and Strategic Associations of the ICC, commented: "We believe in the Caribbean region, in the fortress of its sector of the small businesses, and in the spirit of its businessmen."
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
send cash scotia bank
From: United States
really? for this they need a conference filled with august personages? i have said that a gazillion times here, but very few people take it seriously, because of the proclivity to bragging rights. each territory has something to offer the other. even though the DR is a signatory to Caricom, do not waste your time trying to import anything for that group. the size differences of the island, the differences in educational preparation, and sheer experience in certain fields, are issues which each island can offer each other. the DR has tremendous tourism potential, but could learn from other islands who have more longevity and tenure. The DR has larger land mass, which could be better managed for agricultural support to the area. collective ideas and efforts, instead of everyone wanting to be the big dog, is the only way forward. the paradigms are not shifting; they already have!
From: United States
As long as corruption in latin countries such as the DR continue on the road of corruption and cronieism nothing will ever change. It can't because corruption like a cancer spreads unless it is irradicated and that won't happen because the feeding frenzie for cancer growth is fertile.
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera, M.T.S.
Going a bit further than corruption and bragging-rights, it's the patron-client relations that we have w/ the US that is a big part of the race-to-the-bottom that exists in the Caribbean-basin countries. Lets deregulate and lower labor costs, so that we can out-bid our neighbor. That's the idea behind FTZs and Tax-havens.
Well, regional integration, cross-border supply chains, and cross-border raise of wages for the working class would be big steps to sticking it to the international forces that have the region under-developed (see Andre Gunder Frank's works on this). But then again, if the Caribbean Basin does this unilaterally, then of course south-east Asia will benefit or another under-developed region. It's the continuous race to the bottom that we're locked in, and that we need coordinated efforts to address.
Of course internally, we need to address the HUGE inequality in economic and political power to wrestle power away from the few and give it to the many.
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 10:28 AM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
Just a bunch of pencil pushers and theoreticians talking a lot of BS and dreaming on.
As long as the inter island shipping is monopolized by the big freight companies there will no
profitable inter island exports because of the high rates.
It cost $500 to ship and import a car from Japan, to import from Miami $1200 more than double.
If you want to ship for example to Trinidad anything from DR is highway robbery and they tack on all kinds of extra surcharges, making Dominican exports more expensive.
We need to bring a Greek shipping magnate with a fleet of ships to start a fresh inter island shipping business to stop the madness of products going to Miami first and then returning to the Caribbean for delivery to the importers. Or maybe the government can buy some ships and establish the new and refurbished "Flota Mercante Dominicana", hey could be as profitable for making some new grease as the metro, ah?
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
genoroso you said it all " Just a bunch of pencil pushers and theoreticians talking a lot of BS and dreaming on."
From: United States
absolutely, GC. none of this will ever come to pass. people in this neck of the woods have no interest in paradigm shifts. leave things alone, pass the beer, and let's dance the night away. that applies not only to the DR.
Written by: anthonyC, 3 Dec 2008 12:05 PM
From: United States
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 10:28 AM
"It cost $500 to ship and import a car from Japan, to import from Miami $1200 more than double."
Generoso,
Ever hear of volume discounts? How many cars are shipped from Japan? How many cars are shiped from the US to the DR?
Now that ship from Japan drops its cargo in the DR then continues on to other countries like Columbia or Brazil with the rest of it's automobile cargo. The ship from Miami probably is only dropping off an handful of car and then returns less than full. Not very economical.
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 1:45 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
anthony C
so what is your point?
Once I had a friend that sold 25 container loads to Trinidad and he went to Sea Land and made a deal with them for a price reduction based on the 25 containers. Instead of paying $3000 each he got away with $2500 each still ridiculous and exorbitant for such a short trip.
Once there was a Haitian shipping company out of Miami owned by the Stephen brothers I believe that used to offer good rates to DR much lower than the big three.
Your post is saying nothing new or illuminating me with your savvy, my point is that both sea and air transportation to the Caribbean is way too expensive for the amount of miles travelled. That includes air cargo and passenger fares as well.
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 1:49 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
GC, dread
Once I was a speaker at that stupid conference when US presidents used to attend.
What a waste of time.
Written by: anthonyC, 3 Dec 2008 1:55 PM
From: United States
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 1:45 PM
"Once I had a friend that sold 25 container loads to Trinidad and he went to Sea Land and made a deal with them for a price reduction based on the 25 containers. Instead of paying $3000 each he got away with $2500 each still ridiculous and exorbitant for such a short trip."
And if he was shiping 2500 containers how much would they have charged?
You were the one who tried to compared shiping from Japan with that of the DR. They export more in Japan in a single day than the whole DR does in a year.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
good hotels good food ....basically a hand job for all ...correct genoroso
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 2:20 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
anthonyC
We would export more too if there was not so much "conference rates" and price gouging.
BTW do you work for a shipping company by any chance? Seems like it.
From: United States
generoso, why is a man of your intellect arguing with anthonyc? he is talking about "mass discount". he fails to understand that the price is fixed when you ship from places like NEWARK and Miami. it does not matter how many cars are on board. a japanese ship carrying 500 cars from japan charges 500 per car. a shipper from newark, with 500 cars, still charges 1200 per car.so, what is your point about "volume discount"?
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 2:50 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
That is why airlines are going broke because they always want to stiff the consumers and air travelers. When I used to travel every week I always asked the guys next to me and 100% of the time the air fares were different one from the other, sometimes less, sometimes more. The consumer always got the shaft.
Airlines should charge according to the route a fixed price for all, no discount, just a set but reasonable fare, and if you can't travel too bad It's like buying ticket to a sporting event once you miss it you lose. But if there is a seat available then even if you go one hour before you should pay the same fare.
As a matter of fact in the not so distant future fares will probably be charged by the passengers weight, just like air cargo. LOL. So if you are a big mama you will pay more than GC for example who is slim and trim .LOL. Now dread will probably pay more caused he is big and fat.LOL.
From: United States, Somewhere in the World
jajajajaja g very funny and good examples, jajajajaja
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 3:11 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
gatitapequena
I love your sense of humor gatita...you are always laughing, I like that.
Can I tickle you some more? Like in private? LOL.
From: United States, Somewhere in the World
jajajajajajaja,
gee's I can't stop laughing
Written by: generoso, 3 Dec 2008 3:18 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
Wait until we all meet in privado you will surely break into uncontrolled laughter and will bless
all the Dominican saints you know on your good luck and blessings for such a tremendous
opportunity to partake all for one and one for all with the dream team of professor G, the dreaded one and GC.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
oink oink I'm here
Well, regional integration, cross-border supply chains, and cross-border raise of wages for the working class would be big steps to sticking it to the international forces that have the region under-developed (see Andre Gunder Frank's works on this). But then again, if the Caribbean Basin does this unilaterally, then of course south-east Asia will benefit or another under-developed region. It's the continuous race to the bottom that we're locked in, and that we need coordinated efforts to address.
Of course internally, we need to address the HUGE inequality in economic and political power to wrestle power away from the few and give it to the many.
As long as the inter island shipping is monopolized by the big freight companies there will no
profitable inter island exports because of the high rates.
It cost $500 to ship and import a car from Japan, to import from Miami $1200 more than double.
If you want to ship for example to Trinidad anything from DR is highway robbery and they tack on all kinds of extra surcharges, making Dominican exports more expensive.
We need to bring a Greek shipping magnate with a fleet of ships to start a fresh inter island shipping business to stop the madness of products going to Miami first and then returning to the Caribbean for delivery to the importers. Or maybe the government can buy some ships and establish the new and refurbished "Flota Mercante Dominicana", hey could be as profitable for making some new grease as the metro, ah?
"It cost $500 to ship and import a car from Japan, to import from Miami $1200 more than double."
Generoso,
Ever hear of volume discounts? How many cars are shipped from Japan? How many cars are shiped from the US to the DR?
Now that ship from Japan drops its cargo in the DR then continues on to other countries like Columbia or Brazil with the rest of it's automobile cargo. The ship from Miami probably is only dropping off an handful of car and then returns less than full. Not very economical.
so what is your point?
Once I had a friend that sold 25 container loads to Trinidad and he went to Sea Land and made a deal with them for a price reduction based on the 25 containers. Instead of paying $3000 each he got away with $2500 each still ridiculous and exorbitant for such a short trip.
Once there was a Haitian shipping company out of Miami owned by the Stephen brothers I believe that used to offer good rates to DR much lower than the big three.
Your post is saying nothing new or illuminating me with your savvy, my point is that both sea and air transportation to the Caribbean is way too expensive for the amount of miles travelled. That includes air cargo and passenger fares as well.
Once I was a speaker at that stupid conference when US presidents used to attend.
What a waste of time.
"Once I had a friend that sold 25 container loads to Trinidad and he went to Sea Land and made a deal with them for a price reduction based on the 25 containers. Instead of paying $3000 each he got away with $2500 each still ridiculous and exorbitant for such a short trip."
And if he was shiping 2500 containers how much would they have charged?
You were the one who tried to compared shiping from Japan with that of the DR. They export more in Japan in a single day than the whole DR does in a year.
We would export more too if there was not so much "conference rates" and price gouging.
BTW do you work for a shipping company by any chance? Seems like it.
Airlines should charge according to the route a fixed price for all, no discount, just a set but reasonable fare, and if you can't travel too bad It's like buying ticket to a sporting event once you miss it you lose. But if there is a seat available then even if you go one hour before you should pay the same fare.
As a matter of fact in the not so distant future fares will probably be charged by the passengers weight, just like air cargo. LOL. So if you are a big mama you will pay more than GC for example who is slim and trim .LOL. Now dread will probably pay more caused he is big and fat.LOL.
I love your sense of humor gatita...you are always laughing, I like that.
Can I tickle you some more? Like in private? LOL.
gee's I can't stop laughing
all the Dominican saints you know on your good luck and blessings for such a tremendous
opportunity to partake all for one and one for all with the dream team of professor G, the dreaded one and GC.