Good news for the Dominican Republic.

Good news. Now let's hope DR can import beautiful Japanese women. I've always had a thing for them. I think It was Asia Carrera that got me hooked, LOL! ;-)

"Good news. Now let's hope DR can import beautiful Japanese women. I've always had a thing for them. I think It was Asia Carrera that got me hooked, LOL! ;-)"

a small number of Japanese settled in the country during trujillo's regime..you can find japanese-dominicans in constanza (they're usually involved in agriculture). Good luck hunting!

that's great! after all we have so many japanese vehicles here! we should at least import some fruits over there! (I love japanese vehicles and women!) Oh! constanza here i come! lol!!

Great expanding the trading market to other countrys, best thing that can happen to DR specially these days that asian countrys are so important to today society specially in technology.

its true. my cousin mayumi and her brother haruki are half japanese. constanza! love my town . D.R has to strat building auto parts. and opening up japanese run companies in order to stengthen ties with japan.

I envy u Andriel! LOL!

I visited Japan and paid almost $12.00 US for an apple. I hope Japanese importers pay a fair price for our Dominican goods and that the benefits can trickle down to Dominican growers. I know, wishful thinking.

I was born in the DR but I consider myself Japanese.. confused... My fiance is Japanese, she might be the first Japanese Lady in the DR... Balaguer 2012-2050..

Now talking about export.. It would be great if we can import their brain to the DR.. We would have so many smart Dominican People.. Yo nunca e visto un pais con tanta gente Bruta....

It is a good thing for the economy. and the rich farmers.. los Hacendados.. to export their vegetables to Nippon...

I've met dominicans of japanese descent. Also jews and arabs that came because president Trujillo helped them and they're grateful for what he did, unlike some dominicans.

there are plenty of intelligent dominicans in DR. The problem is that sometimes they don't get a chance to succeed. But because of corruption, having a BRAIN isn't essential. So please Juliony, don't judge!.

Perez,

I met very few with a Brain..
Ok lets be realistic. First the people elected a blind president, them Leonel ( he did very well on the first term, sold mostly every goverment firms). Later Hipolito (un saleo, como ese.. by the way, I have a donkey in the DR and his name is Hito short for Hipolito., them you had Leonel again.. funny... 600 million dollar already taken in two terms.. (and aldo he bought some of the companies he sold during his first term, at a higher price than what he sold it for) and now the people of the republic are once again ready to vote... and Leonel is going to win again.. The only candidate who is honest and serious about changing the Dominican Republic for better is Eduardo Estrella, but he is on the 4th place... I don't belong to any party.

Mi abuelo decia, lo que mas duele es la verdad.. Cogno este es un pais de gente Bruta....

JulioNY Nacido en la republica como usted a dicho It seems to me Que tu eres y tus hijos tienen el potencial de ser, tan brutos como la gente de ese pais.

con tus palabras has demostrado que la brutalidad no es un mal unicamente cerebral.

pero como eres "japones" ahora veo porque hablas de esa manera acerca de tus ex- paisanos.

solo poque te sientes avergonzado de tu gente y quieres ser algo que no eres, no significa que vengas a un foro a hablar mal de una raza completa solo por hablar BS.

BTW I Guess I could have kept it in english but Dog u made me register!! I have to make sure that my people understand.

OH! and Your Wife aint the only Japanese woman in the island. we got homegrown ones.

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Yo no estoy avergonzado de ser Dominicano, pero en realidad you only have to drive around washington heights or drive around santo domingo and I will prove my point.
My ancestors tried to clean up the DR, but weren't unsuccessful.


Tethdiego: using the Jap is like using the N word.
also I guess I have brutoness in me.. because I'm Dominican.. getting into NYU-Stern school of Business and graduating top of the class..thats a nice belt to have under me.

About the Homegrown ones.. I met a few while attending dinners while visiting the DR.

See you in 2012

My apologies for the J- comment i let my emotions get the best of me there, But my man your BS is showing. and you're mixing up your metaphors.

It's not a belt u have under you, it's a notch on the belt.
and I guess if your ancestors weren't unsuccessful cleaning up DR(I dont even know what that's suppossed to mean maybe u could explain.) Then They were successful in cleaning up the island right?
I mean I wasnt top of the class at NYU, hell I only got about 6 credits on my computer maintenance course, but you sound very Dominican with your BS. I know We can smell our own.

my problem is with what u are saying. you're talking down to the rest of your people, and making such broad generalizations,that u make me doubt your claims. for someone so well educated as u seem to be, It's very unbecoming to make such an ignorant statement.
at least give me some reasons de porque, en general, La gente dominicana aqui y Alla somos tan Bruta.

Y no es para discutir. Im not trying to spam or attack you, but You should know better. You're a college educated man, pero te estas expressando como .....bueno, como una persona con poco tacto. but seeing as how u are dominican... well I guess you proved your point.

NYU - Stern school of Business doesn't mean you're the smartest guy on the chopping block and it definitely doesn't give credence to your pathetic arguement about dominicans. An education at a respected institution doesn't mean anything unless you have common sense and vision (see G. Bush, Yale; E. Spitzer, Princeton; B. Ebber; MC, Kozlowski, and many more). You either lack common sense or are just an ignorant and arrogant fella'. I have been to this site many times, and, like tethdiego , not until i read your comments did i feel compel to sign up for an account.

If you want RD and it citizen to excel then invest in your country and make it better. Invest by providing some of the things you have been fortunate enough to experience. Do not make outlandish statements that will jeopardize your credibility.

Look, honestly the truth is that it can get unruly in the heights. But being unruly is not a trait specific to Dominicans.

You are right about one thing, the term "Jap" is not good.

Here is a lesson you and everyone else that criticizes the president's every move. He does not have absolute power, there are many other forces in government, and resources to get everything done is just not there. Could he have (hypothetically) done better? Sure. but the improvements are very real and undeniable.

I just had to get that off my chest because i hate when people show off their degrees and feel entitled to the world. Yes, it is an accomplishment but thats just a step through the door. The real test is what you do with it. The alumni makes the institution, the institution doesnt make the student. This is something you have to learn, and you should take note that in this discussion you are not very popular.

If this still isn't good enough for you, then there just isn't any convincing you. So, I'll give you my credentials. I'm 24 y.o., born in RD, raised in NYC, graduated from a private NYC College, have a great job, and have travelled to many places- Tokyo included.

No one's perception of his her/her ethnic group is invalid as everyone has a right to an opinion, which is all that a percpetion is. With that said, such a negative opinion on Dominicans coming from supposedly another Dominican strikes me as perhaps coming from an individual that has moved about in the wrong wrung of society, at least as far as his/her particular ethnic group is concerned. Here in the states, as a group we Dominicans have our shortcomings but all around there are signs of our vibrancy, even in the economic sphere illustrated by our our high rate of small-business ownership, or of signs of things to come as indicated by the fact that Dominicans are the single largest group enrolled in New York's CUNY system. Indeed, I have mett Dominicans that are the equal of the biggest dirtbags that any ethnic group can produce, but by the same token I have met remarkable individuals that constantly renew my pride in being of Dominican origin. I see not all have been as fortunate as

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I see not all have been as fortunate as I have in encountering the best of what our people have to offer. It's too bad that they're missing out. My opinion.

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I see not all have been as fortunate as I have in encountering the best of what our people have to offer. It's too bad that they're missing out. My opinion.

Im glad to see I was not the only one bothered by juliony's comments. Looking back, I am glad others were able to make the point more eloquently than me. I was upset and took it as an attack not only on my people but on me. some of my comments were unfair (and Again, I apologize for the racist remark.) and out of place, I was angry when I read his post.
I have met people with similar views and his haughty attitude, this air of superiority, that really gets to me. If I have offended anyone, my apologies, Im sure your fiancee is a wonderful woman. It was never my intention to disrespect her.
I edited my post above.

well tehtdiego, i got p*ssed at juliony because of his comments about us dominicans, but he got a point about people rooting for funcionarios que no valen la pena y teniendo la esperanza que esos desgraciados resuelven sus problemas mientras los funcionarios le dan la espalda. Sometimes I wonder, is our pueblo masoquistas? But still, there are some smart ones and i met some from daycare, to high school, and college! que viva DR!!!!

si pero tampoco hablar a lo loco. and you cant just blame balaguer's rise to power on the people. especially when it's well known about the rampart electoral fraud and insanely corrupt goverment we inherited from trujillo.
Pero si, tienes razon, nos ha tomado mucho tiempo salir de ese oyo (sp?)
Y yo tambien e conocido gente bruta, yo incluido, pero porque conozca un hindu violento no significa que los hindues son violentos.
Same way all muslims arent terrorists.

No se confundan, el Dominicano es lo mas inteligente que existe en la tierra. Lo que pasa es que dedican esa inteligencia al engano, y la ratreria. El mismo solar que te vende se lo han vendido a siete mas entre ellos extranjeros. Te convensen que le preste dinero para nunca pagartelo. Nunca he visto tantas mujeres que por dar filete los extranjeros le montan casas y pasolas. Los brutos somos los que estamos afuera que cuando llegamos gastamos para tener que cojer prestado al regreso. Al Borigua amigo mio lo cojieron de pendejo y lo dejaron pelao sin dinero y negocio. El Dominicano, super inteligente para avariguar como cojer lo que no le pertenece, y el hombre para llevarse muchachitas, . La falta de educacion, oportunidad, corupcion, trujillo, y verguenza en la majoria de nuestra gente es la causa.

By the way, I have also met intelligent Dominican like people in Vietnam, Thailand, South African, Switzerland and other places where if I was not alert would have ripped me off big time. Oh, and let me not forget Paris where in a traffic jam, the taxi drivers keep the meter running... But if there is a loop hole, trust me, my fellow Dominicans will figure it out first ( like the phone card like schemes before phone cards, the free cable/tv channels before cable, etc...). Poverty is the mother of ingenuity and deceit. Viva la raza Dominicana!!

TethDiego..

Trujillo, what did he leave us with? a central bank.. a sugar company.. excellent highways, the companies he left were very profitable.. after his death a few families took control of many of this firms as their own.. saying Trujillo took them from them.. and the people believe that... BS.

I leaft the DR when i was 15 move to NY, Balaguer was dying I couldn't stay in the DR..I remember trying to help other Dominicans and I gave a company away to two employees, making $10K US a year in profit the year was 1990. One of the employee sold his share for less than $1000.00 dollars to play at a cock fight, it happened in Santiago. A year before I travelled back to San Cristobal to visit the old plantation.. and I noticed another farmer growing corn, when my family told him to grow soybean. He was growing corn because everyone else was doing the same thing.. I have many stories about that.

stavera, what you said on your last comment is true.. thats why.. when a Dominican is filing for immigration papers the migra look at those paper 10 times.. because they don't know if they are valid.. our country is #1 as non valid documents..

Trujillo's main legacy was one of blood. As for his very profitable businesses, that's bogus. Most of his businesses were profitable because of the monopoly they enjoyed within natonal borders or because Trujillo was able to count on slave labor for some of his plantations and free transport of materials through the armed forces. When Bosch's government assessed the value of Trujillo's property still in state possession when Bosch came to power they concluded pretty much the same thing, that most of Trujillo's properties would not be as profitable in private hands due to the particular advantages Trujillo had at his disposal. As for Balaguer being the fault of the dominican people, Balaguer was imposed on the Dominican people by an occupying force that quickly left once the sham elections that initially brought Balaguer to power were concluded. The climate of intimidation against Balaguer's opponents in the before mentioned election is well documented.

As for Trujillo the highway builder, the main arteries in the country were already laid out under the American occupation that preceeded Trujillo, though the plans and initiation of said arteries had already begun under the Caceres administration.

one question to Staveras. Is your father or grandfather the type of Dominican you are describing in your rantings or are those men the only ones with integrity our people have managed to produce?

You wanna know somethin'? Here in new york I've come across a myriad of individuals that for their own personal reasons are ashamed of being of Dominican origin and go to great pains to distance themselves from their origin (all nationalities have produced such individuals here, by the way). If they find themselves happy under such circumstances then more power to them . Life is too short to ponder on what we as individuals find unpleasant. But there are enough of us with sincere love for the Dominican people and the country itself that that we more than make up for those who would deny or belittle us. If that is the intention, to belittle, then it is better that one just deny alltogether and be done with it. Como dijo Fidel una ves, "No los necesitamos, no los queremos".

P.S. I'm just quoting one particular phrase that was once uttered by Castro. This is by no means an endorsement of his politics.

JulioNY....

Bueno hermano, usted no pega una! ! Ni yo con mis pocos años de experiencia en la vida, ni con lo poco que se de la era de trujillo y los años posteriores, creo que el hombre fue lo mejor que ha habido en la isla.

I wish I was as eloquent and knowledgeable as my grandfather (who By the way only completed 4th grade but used to teach me about astrology, science, phylosophy and god knows what I've forgotten. dominicano bruto ese!) so I could further participate.

Es verdad! Si fuera verdad que Nosotros Dominicanos somos brutos, entonces, como vivimos? por la pobreza, we get to invent things to make things better! we cut electric wires to repair torned out electric chords, we reconstruct car chasis, and make cars that are older than 50 year old to work, we make homemade 3rd axles to fit on trucks, add steel rods to replace old car doors, and alot of stuff! we suffer, but we make life as painless as possible! I love myDR!,and my people!!!.

Perez,

I lived there and I traveled every 90 days, I know what i see.. I seen the one you talked.. yes.. I have.. Many I helped and still today some of them ask for business advise.. I just laugh when I hear some of the business deals or ideas..
for example, if you are going to by property and you visit a lawyer in that town and you tell them I want to buy parcel "A". I seen people going in and not verifying if the Lawyer is actually an attorney.. Getting into su a big investment and not verifying who is representing you.. thats typically Dominican. Believing all the BS canditates are saying. poniendose un palillo en la boca para que la gente crea que comio bistec.. the way the majority speak.. I have to tell my people.. ok take a deep breath and slowly tell me what you are trying to say.. I been to many places but if you want to enjoy a free laugh go to a Restaurant or where Dominicans are hanging out. People need to think about the future, not just live in the present.

"I been to many places but if you want to enjoy a free laugh go to a Restaurant or where Dominicans are hanging out."

Indeed if one does want to laugh and have a good time go anywhere were Dominicans frequent. We are a very jovial people who enjoy having a good laugh and sharing that experience with others:)

"I been to many places but if you want to enjoy a free laugh go to a Restaurant or where Dominicans are hanging out."

Indeed if one does want to laugh and have a good time go anywhere were Dominicans frequent. We are a very jovial people who enjoy having a good laugh and sharing that experience with others:)

Cibaeno75, you asked me about my father. Well, my dad was a a rare and unique person and a leader in the June 21 movement against Trujillo. He was a close friend of Manolo Tavarez. In fact, my first cousin Carmen Maria was Enrique Mirabal's second woman and had an additional 4 girls with him. Dad came to the USA in 1961 avoiding assassination. He had 4 professions and converted to evangelical in his late twenties. Good thing, as the church helped him get out of the Country. So, in conclusion, he is not one of the men I spoke about. In fact, I think that in life you always will find a diamond in the rough and there will always be individuals that will make a difference. like Margaret Mead said never doubt the power of an individual to change the world, it is the only thing that ever has - something like that. Anyways, the challenge is that in a developing Country with low literacy and education levels, low disposable income, bad infrastructure, political corruption, and costl

Anyways, the challenge is that in a developing Country with low literacy and education levels, low disposable income, bad infrastructure, political corruption, costly medical care, lack of institutional and personal discipline, there will always be a critical mass of people that are disoriented, dishonest and struggle to survive. The DR is also influenced by greed and values that cherish material possessions - including large land holdings that are not producing for anyone. There is so much wealth in the DR (natural and economic) but only a few enjoy it. I took three weeks and visited the entire DR, I was amazed at the agricultural prowess that the DR is and its natural beauty and diversity. But the laws and institutional norms and enforcement have to change so that the people can change. This is the case of Japan, the people there are successful because they follow order and respect their institutions.

Staveras, the problems you seem to have with dominican society, namely lack of infrastructure,abysmal education, latifundismo, and materialism all lie at the feet of the inept political and elitist leadership that the republic has been suffering from for a long time. When impunity from the law because of who one knows or is becomes the norm in a society it is difficult for the common man to develop a sense of belonging within the state and hence develop a civic-minded attitude. You can't blame the man on the street for the ills in Dominican society.

You speak of your father as having four professions. How many Dominicans have had the opportunity to acquire even one professional title? C'mon. Don't go around judging your people so harshly. Think of it this way:If Dominican society produced the man you respect and call father then there must be something to it after all and if he was indeed involved in the movement you mentioned in that time period you should at least show more respect to the people he was willing to put his life on the line for.

Cibaeno75, you make some good points. There is a dimension of the DR that Is somewhat quaint, nostalgic and very pleasant. The hospitality, especially in the campos, was very nice when I did my 3-week DR discovery (like Ghandi going across India). Where else in the world can you pop up in someone's house that you do not know and be invited for coffee and other pleasantries. My dad made his life and achieved his credentials by waking at 4:00am cutting kindling and selling it to pay for room and board in Santiago, despite my rich and stingy grandfather. There is good and bad in every society, I agree on this. But I subscribe to the 50, 30, 20 rule. 50% of society is on the fence, 30% are following the rules and trying to do was right, and 20% are living la vida loca. Cibaeno75, I am glad you are not judging me to harshly.

Cibaeno75,
My grandfather used to said you can do everything you want, but you must take the first step
to achieve that. Keep your head focus on your goal and you will obtain results. There are many Dominicans that give up before they are able to make the first step. My grandafther used to wake up at 5:00 in the morning just to work on the land. My greatgranfather used to said: Prefiero la muerte antes de salir de mi pais.

Staveras: The DR is rich in nature but the people are blind (I was going to use another word that make people mad) that they aren't able to use common sense. La Seguera es y sera la esclavitud de los Dominicanos, Cuando nuestros hermanos y hermanas habran sus ojos y puedan ver el pais tendra mejor resultado.. Lo unico que espero es que habran los ojos pronto hantes de que lo dejen el gobierno sin fondo.