SANTO DOMINGO.- The vice president of the Dominican State
power companies CDEEE yesterday said as of today the blackouts will discontinue
with the entry into the system of around 400 megawatts.
Radhamés Segura attributed the energy crisis that affected the country for
more than 15 days to technical failures and financial problems he said have
been already corrected
In a press conference Sunday the official said the power companies were
instructed to maintain their output at 85 percent so the sectors which receive
the least energy get 18 hours of service.
The national energy demand is around 2,000 megawatts and the current
generation is of around 1,700 megawatts.
Today the CDEEE will pay US$4 billion of the US$16 million owed to the power
company Cogentrix, which contributes 300 megawatts to the system and which had
shut down several plants.
Since yesterday several plants around the country began to enter the system,
after debts were paid and failures corrected, Segura
said.
He said another factor affecting the power grid is that the hydroelectric,
which contribute almost 200 megawtts, have been generating less as the lack of
rain maintains their waters levels low.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Blackouts will end today, Dominican energy chief says.....this is a very funny headline can you imagine how ridiculous it reads
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Really? Finally after how many years of haphazard service? I know, I worked for "La Corporacion Dominicana de Electricidad" en la feria, under Julio Sauri back in the 1970's. What an outfit that was! Politically appointed jobs (botellas): which I was one of such employees.
Now, let's hope and pray that this will bring stabilization to a shaky situation, where random blackouts were and are a way of live. What a way to run a business, or a country for that matter. What I think is needed is competition. Where I live there are several power companies with intersecting territories.
Hopefully now the era of sub-standard 'modern' living will end. Welcome to the 21st Century.
I hope it lasts. We need a better means of providing electricity than what has been offered until now. Now, if we could only run the trains on time!
From: United States
Sounds too good to be true? You mean we will not longer be groping around in the dark and running into furniture? no more falling down the stairs in the dark? .. shall I throw away my night vision goggles? no more enduring the heat with no fans running? no more sitting around and watching our food spoil? no more spending thousands buying generators? what shall we do with all the free time on our hands? And where are we going to get the oil required to run all those power plants at peak capacity to meet peak loads? Where did we get the money to suddenly pay off those debts? Does it mean our rates are going up?
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
GC;
All of the above is the answer.
The problem with the Electrical Service in the DR is very easy to solve.
Make sure to pay for what is produced and used; not for the production capacity alone. Void the infamous Madrid Accord.
Quit giving just "First Aid" where a major operation is needed.
Fire all the employees, hire foreign mangers and workers, pay them for the work that they do and demand 24/7 electrical service. Then, if they don't provide that, fire those and start all over again. Sooner or later, they'll catch on to what is needed.
TB
Written by: tejada, 21 Jul 2008 8:57 AM
From: United States
"Radhamés Segura attributed the energy crisis that affected the country for more than 15 days to technical failures and financial problems he said have been already corrected"
"...more than 15 days..." That statement is hilarious!!!!
From: United States
Is that Seguro guy saying we only had an energy crisis for the past "15 days"? Well then, my name is Rip Van Winkle and I have been asleep for 8 years .. and exactly how do the black outs end when you only meet 85% of the MW load? Well then, it seems that I and this Seguro guy went to different schools together.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
"Radhamés Segura ....also know Doctor Pangloss..... If the great Dr. Pangloss were here, he might say something of the sort...am I correct TB ?
Written by: BLANCO, 21 Jul 2008 10:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic
problem solved???? get real. ...sundays paper outlined all the outages for the week to come. i guess these guys can't read their own press releases.
as i have posted before we have gone from problem to situation to crisis to crisis(2 times)to problem situation crisis....you get the idea. in 22 years nothing has changed except the rhetoric.
Written by: Belial, 21 Jul 2008 10:34 AM
From: United States, Texas
p. 1
This article demonstrates the necessity of removing the private bourgeoisie entirely from the energy sector.
"Companies were instructed to maintain their output at 85 percent so the sectors which receive the least energy get 18 hours of service," DT reports.
Does that mean the "sectors which receive ... energy" will not get 6 hours of service? What about sectors that don't receive energy? How will they switch their light on?
And, what does the private bourgeoisie in the energy sector care about "instructions" from the DR state? Nothing!
Today, capitalist competition no longer means companies compete by lowering prices for goods and services to grab larger market share. Today, these companies compete by hiking their prices to balloon gross income. If you don't pay the ballooning prices ... that is, the new competitive principle, then the companies cut you off.
Written by: Belial, 21 Jul 2008 10:35 AM
From: United States, Texas
p. 2
"Today the CDEEE will pay US$4 billion of the US$16 million owed to the power company Cogentrix, which contributes 300 megawatts to the system and which had shut down several plants" DT reports.
I suppose they mean $4 million rather than $4 billion, but you never know.
Does CDEEE really owe Cogentrix the $16 million or did Cogentrix turn off the lights to shake down CDEEE for the 16? If that's the case, Cogentrix is going to raise its rates again ... soon ... to shake down CDEEE for 32 million next time. "LF is using Petrocaribe money to subsidize electricity, so let's grab before our competitors grab."
"Since yesterday several plants around the country began to enter the system, after debts were paid and failures corrected, Segura said," DT reports.
It seems the "private sector" in the energy went on strike and left the system, like Cogentrix, to shake down the CDEEE for as much money as they can extort.
The state should bust their capitalist "union."
Written by: Belial, 21 Jul 2008 10:36 AM
From: United States, Texas
p. 3
"He said another factor affecting the power grid is that the hydroelectrics, which contribute almost 200 megawtts, have been generating less as the lack of rain maintains their waters levels low," DT reports.
Hire a rainmaker and nationalize the whole energy sector. Kick the incompetent, buck-passing, and greedy private bourgeoisie out.
From: United States
i will believe this only when i see it
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Belial is awake and hitting the old pipe already ....moronic ideas
From: Dominican Republic
The 15 days he was referring to were the last 15 of "unusually" high number and length of blackouts not the overall braoder crisis. What I think is funny is that over the last two weeks while sectors were complaining about the increased outages Segura was saying to the press that it was just a figment of their imagination. What a difference a day can make.
Of course I think it is only us pendejos that even pay attention to anything they say in the press. Does anyone else get that feeling?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
It is" Radhames in Wonderlandia " or " El Pais de Maravillas "
From: United States
OH .. so sorry .. I guess I must have been asleep for the past 15 days as well .. now lets see .. the last time I checked there were 24 hours in a day .. so if the system can supply only 18 hours of electricity out of those 24 hours .. we will have a total of 24-18 = 6 hours of no electricity .. aka a blackout .. which is slightly better than the 8 and 9 hour blackouts .. but still not exactly an end to the blackouts as we are being led to believe in this story .. but the final proof will be in the pudding .. let's see if they can go past the noon hour today .. and tomorrow .. and the day after ..
From: United States
Holy Toldeo, Batman .. we made it past the dreaded "High Noon" .. now that's something .. maybe there is some truth to this story .. just don't hold your breath though ..
From: United States
12:22 and still holding .. no more blackouts the man said .. making a beeeeleeeeever outa me .. no more stone age living? ..
From: United States
maybe we will soon be able to use the microwave again. darn, i really long for the days i can buy a box of ice cream and store it in the freezer. can you say 21st century?
Written by: Botemon, 21 Jul 2008 1:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
Hey folks,
Been "lurking" for a while and just registered today. Had to chuckle just a bit about this. As I was reading the article, thinking “oh wow…awesome”, the lights went out! HA!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
welcome aboard ...hope you can take a joke
From: United States
Hope you are thick skinned .. hope you don't ooze a flood of tears when called a name .. hope you don't run off crying to the censors each time you have a problem with English comprehension .. welcome aboard our Titanic ..
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Belial;
It is the Govrnment owned CDEEE that is making all the noise. Hippo bought out the Privaate companies in 2002 andthe $hit hit the fan with rolling blackouts all over the country. It was bad befor that, but the government put in their incompetent "botello men" and things went to hell in a handbasket.
It is a proven fact that NO government can run a business venture efficiently. Their answer to EVERYTHING is add more people to make up for the inefficiency of the bureaucracies.
Hell, this government can't even run itself efficiently, much less a business with uneducated nincompoops for managers.
So, it isn't the bourgeoisie that is at fault. It's those who think like you do that have the opinion that the government can do everythiong better than those trained an expert in their field.
Better go back to school and get your thinking squared away befor you blab again.
TB
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
yeah Belial and that goes double for the rest of us bourgies
From: United States
2:53 PM .. Bingo .. we must have entered the dark side again .. so I guess 6 hours of blackout would take us to 8:53 PM then? if the "energy czar" is right ..
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
If not ....we take Czar Radhames down to the basement and you know what
From: United States
Do him like the Bolshevikis did Czar Nicky? Nah .. that would be way too harsh .. we just make him eat his words on national TV .. something like that ..
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
sang I found the word to describe people we know .......... ...Trolltalitarian
of or relating to a system of posting on websites that is abusive, intimidating, demeaning, and is done for no other reason than to raise the ire of those who frequent the website.
Trolltalitarianism. A trolltalitarian regime. .....Dont you just love this stuff ,who thinks it up
From: United States
you buy one dog, you get one flea
From: United States
i sell you lice cooka .. cheap cheap ..
From: United States
Crowded elevator always smell different to midget.
Dumb man climb tree to get cherry, wise man spread limbs.
Don't drink and park - accidents cause people.
State of pregnancy exist when woman takes seriously something poked in fun.
Written by: Botemon, 21 Jul 2008 5:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
SNIP>> Hope you are thick skinned .. hope you don't ooze a flood of tears when called a name .. hope you don't run off crying to the censors each time you have a problem with English comprehension .. welcome aboard our Titanic ..
Thanks CG. No problem mon. I can take it!
Cheers
From: Dominican Republic
Hmmm Bote...careful, that sounds like a challenge.
From: United States
We are still blacked out .. another story on DT says the power company still lacks the additional generating capacity required to meet the current output load of 1700 MW .. which is still below the 2000 MW load required to meet consumer demand ..
From: United States
7:57 PM .. the juice is again flowing in our local grid .. out at 2:53 PM and back at 7:57 PM .. 5 hours of blackout .. it's better than 8 hours .. but blackouts are by no means over in Santo Domingo ..
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
I live next door to Cardinal Nicky we dont have any blackouts.....so there Nyah Nyah Nyah
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Sang you are spending to much time looking at your watch and not enough time with Jumbo
From: United States
I live in the poor section of town .. with Franz Fanon's "Wretched of the Earth" .. so I suffer .. but that's part of life here .. nothing out of the ordinary ..
From: United States
8:47 PM .. LIGHTS OUT AGAIN..
8:50 PM .. LIGHTS BACK ON AGAIN .. what the heck was all that about? make up your mind Czar .. is it going to be on or off? gimme a break .. there is no sun for my collectors .. I need the power grid to charge the batteries .. don't you mess with that switch Czar .. OK? leave it alone now ..
From: United States
Man's wife his better half, his mistress his better whole.
Panties not best thing on earth, but next to it.
Woman laid in tomb may soon become mummy.
Man who fall in vat of molten glass make spectacle of self.
Written by: Botemon, 22 Jul 2008 12:07 AM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
SNIP>>Hmmm Bote...careful, that sounds like a challenge
AAARRGGHHH!!!!!
No REAL challenge on my part. But if ya think it is, I’m not afraid, my brother.
The light’s came back on! (Woo Hoo!) Around 10:30p (according to my clock, in the upper North Coast). Never seen anything like that here.
I’d like to think that something really positive is going on here with reference to the “power situation”…. (That would mean “ELECTRICTY” for those of you in the lower DR. ;)
GC…. you are very horny, and need to get laid soon mon!
Respectfully,
Bote
From: United States
Yeah .. you think so? .. unfortunately for you I don't sleep with men .. so go find yourself somebody who shares your "life style" .. OK? ..
From: United States
But if there is a nice looking lady you know .. in my age group .. I might consider abandoning my celibacy vows .. but I do not sleep with men .. sorry to disappoint you Buttmon ..
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
" Not that there is anything wrong with that " at least be PC
Written by: Botemon, 23 Jul 2008 11:57 AM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
CG wrote SNIP>>Man's wife his better half, his mistress his better whole.
Panties not best thing on earth, but next to it.
I replied>>GC…. you are very horny, and need to get laid soon mon!
I have no idea why my comment makes me (or you) "gay" or "lay down with men". Something that I am really missing here. My intention was to make a JOKE from your coment above. Well....maybe a poor tastles joke....but a joke none the less. I apologize for hurting you feelings Amigo!
Respectfully,
Botemon (or whatever)
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Botemon do not take offense the other GC is a reformed Trolltalitarian and cannot help himself
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
..Trolltalitarian
of or relating to a system of posting on websites that is abusive, intimidating, demeaning, and is done for no other reason than to raise the ire of those who frequent the website.
From: Dominican Republic
Bote - Don't worry, I didn't see anything gay. I think he (or she) is just repressing.
Written by: Botemon, 24 Jul 2008 12:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
Hey folks,
SNIP>>..Trolltalitarian
Woa..I guess I have to look that one up!
The more I know....The more I find out I don't know...........ya know?
What a hoot! I love it folks! ( or guys....or girls....or gringos...or....fill in the blanks) :)
No problems MON.
Respectfully.
Botemon
Written by: Botemon, 24 Jul 2008 12:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
Hey folks…
Sorry…I think the word was spelled wrong. (Any takers?)The word was “Totalitarian”. I know what THAT word means. Now maybe “I” spelled it wrong here. I dunno. But this word makes more sense to me. (Still learning).
Tanks!
Botemon
(Need to start a thread)
Lights off now...:(
From: Dominican Republic
Bote - you are free here. You can make up words. As long as they acurately convey a meaning.
I haven't asked for an actual definition of "trolltalitarian" but my understanding when I first read the word was that it is a toung in cheek hybrid of "troll" and "totalitarian" used to refer to the practice (tolling) of some people to lurk in the background of a thread (like trolls under bridges) waiting for an unsuspecting poster to leave an innocently loose comment or a keyword that the troll can then choose to misinterpret in a way that is convenient for them to use as an excuse to hijack the entire thread and turn it into a personal agenda based on their own individually twisted world view from which they launch of on diatribes peppered with unsubstantiated data presented as diety endorsed fact and personal insults and general lack of tolarance for anyone that chooses to challenge them. The result is a quickly desroyed thread to which all the rational participants leave instantly.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Maldito your definition is better than the original .....but not as amusing
From: Dominican Republic
If you watch long enough you will see Goulet baiting the trolls out from under the bridge with targeted culturally based insults.
I'm not sure why he does it. It seems that he gets some sort of sadistic joy out of turning their crank. Pesonally I would prefer it if he would leave the trolls alone so until such time as they choose to come out on their own the rest of us can continue to enjoy what ever thread there is.
Lately Goulet has been more considerate of my feelings but I know he is oft itching to drag one out to the open (some particular individuals especially) and since this is the Internet and a "free world" I guess we have to respect his fun once and a while also.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
....... ...Trolltalitarian
of or relating to a system of posting on websites that is abusive, intimidating, demeaning, and is done for no other reason than to raise the ire of those who frequent the website.
Trolltalitarianism. A trolltalitarian regime. .
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Now, let's hope and pray that this will bring stabilization to a shaky situation, where random blackouts were and are a way of live. What a way to run a business, or a country for that matter. What I think is needed is competition. Where I live there are several power companies with intersecting territories.
Hopefully now the era of sub-standard 'modern' living will end. Welcome to the 21st Century.
I hope it lasts. We need a better means of providing electricity than what has been offered until now. Now, if we could only run the trains on time!
All of the above is the answer.
The problem with the Electrical Service in the DR is very easy to solve.
Make sure to pay for what is produced and used; not for the production capacity alone. Void the infamous Madrid Accord.
Quit giving just "First Aid" where a major operation is needed.
Fire all the employees, hire foreign mangers and workers, pay them for the work that they do and demand 24/7 electrical service. Then, if they don't provide that, fire those and start all over again. Sooner or later, they'll catch on to what is needed.
TB
"...more than 15 days..." That statement is hilarious!!!!
as i have posted before we have gone from problem to situation to crisis to crisis(2 times)to problem situation crisis....you get the idea. in 22 years nothing has changed except the rhetoric.
This article demonstrates the necessity of removing the private bourgeoisie entirely from the energy sector.
"Companies were instructed to maintain their output at 85 percent so the sectors which receive the least energy get 18 hours of service," DT reports.
Does that mean the "sectors which receive ... energy" will not get 6 hours of service? What about sectors that don't receive energy? How will they switch their light on?
And, what does the private bourgeoisie in the energy sector care about "instructions" from the DR state? Nothing!
Today, capitalist competition no longer means companies compete by lowering prices for goods and services to grab larger market share. Today, these companies compete by hiking their prices to balloon gross income. If you don't pay the ballooning prices ... that is, the new competitive principle, then the companies cut you off.
"Today the CDEEE will pay US$4 billion of the US$16 million owed to the power company Cogentrix, which contributes 300 megawatts to the system and which had shut down several plants" DT reports.
I suppose they mean $4 million rather than $4 billion, but you never know.
Does CDEEE really owe Cogentrix the $16 million or did Cogentrix turn off the lights to shake down CDEEE for the 16? If that's the case, Cogentrix is going to raise its rates again ... soon ... to shake down CDEEE for 32 million next time. "LF is using Petrocaribe money to subsidize electricity, so let's grab before our competitors grab."
"Since yesterday several plants around the country began to enter the system, after debts were paid and failures corrected, Segura said," DT reports.
It seems the "private sector" in the energy went on strike and left the system, like Cogentrix, to shake down the CDEEE for as much money as they can extort.
The state should bust their capitalist "union."
"He said another factor affecting the power grid is that the hydroelectrics, which contribute almost 200 megawtts, have been generating less as the lack of rain maintains their waters levels low," DT reports.
Hire a rainmaker and nationalize the whole energy sector. Kick the incompetent, buck-passing, and greedy private bourgeoisie out.
Of course I think it is only us pendejos that even pay attention to anything they say in the press. Does anyone else get that feeling?
Been "lurking" for a while and just registered today. Had to chuckle just a bit about this. As I was reading the article, thinking “oh wow…awesome”, the lights went out! HA!
It is the Govrnment owned CDEEE that is making all the noise. Hippo bought out the Privaate companies in 2002 andthe $hit hit the fan with rolling blackouts all over the country. It was bad befor that, but the government put in their incompetent "botello men" and things went to hell in a handbasket.
It is a proven fact that NO government can run a business venture efficiently. Their answer to EVERYTHING is add more people to make up for the inefficiency of the bureaucracies.
Hell, this government can't even run itself efficiently, much less a business with uneducated nincompoops for managers.
So, it isn't the bourgeoisie that is at fault. It's those who think like you do that have the opinion that the government can do everythiong better than those trained an expert in their field.
Better go back to school and get your thinking squared away befor you blab again.
TB
of or relating to a system of posting on websites that is abusive, intimidating, demeaning, and is done for no other reason than to raise the ire of those who frequent the website.
Trolltalitarianism. A trolltalitarian regime. .....Dont you just love this stuff ,who thinks it up
Dumb man climb tree to get cherry, wise man spread limbs.
Don't drink and park - accidents cause people.
State of pregnancy exist when woman takes seriously something poked in fun.
Thanks CG. No problem mon. I can take it!
Cheers
http://www.sie.gov.do/fuploads/RE....1%20%20DE%20JULIO%204.00%20PM.pdf
8:50 PM .. LIGHTS BACK ON AGAIN .. what the heck was all that about? make up your mind Czar .. is it going to be on or off? gimme a break .. there is no sun for my collectors .. I need the power grid to charge the batteries .. don't you mess with that switch Czar .. OK? leave it alone now ..
Panties not best thing on earth, but next to it.
Woman laid in tomb may soon become mummy.
Man who fall in vat of molten glass make spectacle of self.
AAARRGGHHH!!!!!
No REAL challenge on my part. But if ya think it is, I’m not afraid, my brother.
The light’s came back on! (Woo Hoo!) Around 10:30p (according to my clock, in the upper North Coast). Never seen anything like that here.
I’d like to think that something really positive is going on here with reference to the “power situation”…. (That would mean “ELECTRICTY” for those of you in the lower DR. ;)
GC…. you are very horny, and need to get laid soon mon!
Respectfully,
Bote
Panties not best thing on earth, but next to it.
I replied>>GC…. you are very horny, and need to get laid soon mon!
I have no idea why my comment makes me (or you) "gay" or "lay down with men". Something that I am really missing here. My intention was to make a JOKE from your coment above. Well....maybe a poor tastles joke....but a joke none the less. I apologize for hurting you feelings Amigo!
Respectfully,
Botemon (or whatever)
of or relating to a system of posting on websites that is abusive, intimidating, demeaning, and is done for no other reason than to raise the ire of those who frequent the website.
SNIP>>..Trolltalitarian
Woa..I guess I have to look that one up!
The more I know....The more I find out I don't know...........ya know?
What a hoot! I love it folks! ( or guys....or girls....or gringos...or....fill in the blanks) :)
No problems MON.
Respectfully.
Botemon
Sorry…I think the word was spelled wrong. (Any takers?)The word was “Totalitarian”. I know what THAT word means. Now maybe “I” spelled it wrong here. I dunno. But this word makes more sense to me. (Still learning).
Tanks!
Botemon
(Need to start a thread)
Lights off now...:(
I haven't asked for an actual definition of "trolltalitarian" but my understanding when I first read the word was that it is a toung in cheek hybrid of "troll" and "totalitarian" used to refer to the practice (tolling) of some people to lurk in the background of a thread (like trolls under bridges) waiting for an unsuspecting poster to leave an innocently loose comment or a keyword that the troll can then choose to misinterpret in a way that is convenient for them to use as an excuse to hijack the entire thread and turn it into a personal agenda based on their own individually twisted world view from which they launch of on diatribes peppered with unsubstantiated data presented as diety endorsed fact and personal insults and general lack of tolarance for anyone that chooses to challenge them. The result is a quickly desroyed thread to which all the rational participants leave instantly.
I'm not sure why he does it. It seems that he gets some sort of sadistic joy out of turning their crank. Pesonally I would prefer it if he would leave the trolls alone so until such time as they choose to come out on their own the rest of us can continue to enjoy what ever thread there is.
Lately Goulet has been more considerate of my feelings but I know he is oft itching to drag one out to the open (some particular individuals especially) and since this is the Internet and a "free world" I guess we have to respect his fun once and a while also.
of or relating to a system of posting on websites that is abusive, intimidating, demeaning, and is done for no other reason than to raise the ire of those who frequent the website.
Trolltalitarianism. A trolltalitarian regime. .