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Lionel will not have any trouble getting the best of nutty hugo in these negotiations....The poor hayseed loves to give away the peoples money...Lionel bring back a couple of wheelbarrows full of green backs and more free oil...Get it while you can

Better still bring back a couple of suit cases full just like this one http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/wo....ml?scp=2&sq=chavez&st=nyt

that is from todays New York Times a lefty publications

He isn't giving away free oil. He is giving a portion of the oil for low interest loans thus enslaving your Grandchildrens grandchildren. We don't even get a discount in price, he gets half the overpriced dollars now and the other half at low interest.

Hippo had the Sovereign Bonds. Leonel has these loans to flush down the toilet.

Try to collect.....So sue me....nutty hugo will get the soiled end of the stick....because he is a dummy

Venezuela really wants the DR to pay the credit portion of its Petrocaribe oil purchases with Dominican agricultural exports.

But absent such exports, cash will do.

Hugo Chavez knows that LF has to go through the slimy Dominican bourgeoisie in the farming sector of the economy who are only interested in cringing and groveling before the US imperialists.

The DRs in mass snivel like crazy when Haiti closed its impoverished market to DR's poultry exports,

But DRs don't get equally excited when cash-saturated Venezuelan market orders DR food exports to pay for oil.

The servile, cringing farming bourgeoisie in the DR knows the God-like US bourgeoisie is sensitive and vociferousl about Venezuela and Cuba [Cuba, amazingly, is the US's 25th largest food export market even on a 100% cash basis].

"We mustn't make God mad?" the behind-kissing bourgeois DR farmer says as he trembles over the mere thought of offending the US imperialists.

belial the boot licker extraordinaire think nutty hugo has a brain in his head

There's a profound lack of leaders in Latin America with technical and moral credentials to navigate the region through the increasingly horrifying food crisis.

Chavez is a tough and brilliant national/regional leader on the energy issue. But food isn't exactly his forte.

LF surely knows a thing or two about food.

Ordinarily, everyone expects the pivotal voice on food in the region to come from Brazil which now has largely sold out to win US imperialist support for a permanent seat for Brazil on the UN Security Council, a seat Brazil believes will consolidate its pretensions as regional boss.

Or expects Argentina, which is in agricultural disarray with its farming bourgeoisie calling boycotts every months.

Or expects Mexico, which is far more servile, behind-kissing, and groveling toward the US imperialists than their counterparts in the DR bourgeoisie.

So, the door is opened for LF to walk in and grab.

Does he know how?

This may be too big for him.

The Brazilians used hugo and discarded him like a used rubber...... Moron that he is .....yes old LuLu hornswoggled the campesino hayseed then dropped him like he was dipped in leper spit

"The Brazilians used hugo and discarded him like a used rubber...... Moron that he is .....yes old LuLu hornswoggled the campesino hayseed then dropped him like he was dipped in leper spit," by GC.

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Most schools of divinity, like the Nazarenes, Zionism, and Islam, profess the good, but pursue evil every opportunity the divines get.

The main schools of politics split chiefly into bourgeois or proletarian. The middle class schools, like social democracy, are transitional to the either bourgeois or proletarian.

The bourgeois school of politics professes evil which it insists is good. It's therefore slightly different from two-faced divinity.

The proletarian school of politics professes the good and pursues it every opportunity the workers get.

Where does Lula fall in this ethico-political continuum of possibilities?

Lula flips-flops through all of them.

He is ethically and politically mobile.

Any here-and-now, Lula may be anywhere ... anytime.

Belial, i am enamored of your term ¨ethically mobile ¨. with your permission, i would like to use in in the future, when conditions warrant.

also known as situational ethics ...... stop sucking up to commie stooge fellow traveller

why did i know that you would have to put in your one cents worth? you appear to be on a quest to break the world record for meaningless posts. no arsenic in the local pharmacy?

"Belial, i am enamored of your term ¨ethically mobile ¨. with your permission, i would like to use in in the future, when conditions warrant."

oooo

No need to ask.

I got the idea for the term from the worn-out sociological term "social mobility," suggesting either leaps or falls either from or to the working class, middle class, and capitalist class.

I believe "ethically mobile" is more sexy and decidedly more fresh than the other one .

While we're at it, let me throw another one at you.

What do you think of "morally fluid?

Is it too watered down?

Oh, better stick with "ethically mobile" which has more bounce.

Like I said "situational ethics " its old , but like your mouth we still use it

you loser

Wishy Washy

"Also known as situational ethics ... ," GC, for once, rises above his petulant stupidity and poses a good question.

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Does ethically mobile stand under situational ethics?

We must first find a rule or concept for situational ethics.

Wiki informs situational ethics "states ... sometimes other moral principles can be cast aside in certain situations if love is best served; ...the type of love ... [situational ethics] ... specifically referring to is 'Agape' love ...which means absolute, universal, unchanging and unconditional love for all people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_ethics

Holy Nazarene, this is mushy and gushy. It stinks.

Is this mush what we mean by ethically mobile?

Clearly, love is totally irrelevant to the ethically mobile.

What's more, the ethically mobile don't cast aside moral principles, they switch them depending on the situation.

So, the ethically mobile and situational ethics are related but different concepts.

wishy washy

"Wishy washy," GC criticizes my contrast between the ethically mobile and situational ethics.

oooo

My contrast seems wishy washy to you because you delude yourself into the false belief that you deal with absolutes that spread everywhere and abide forever.

But these absolutes of yours are your nut world that you permanently inhabit.

Why wouldn't the farmers benefit from any export deal ? the DR needs desperatly to refine and interiorize it's agriculture sector and a vibrant export market of any sort will benefit the country as a whole.

gouletcolonial, go back to Cuba ... go comment on the Granma

chill soon we will be going to visit the grave of fidelito and you know what we are going to do ....and chill you had better get rid of that goofy Che T shirt as well

Remember, your paying 24 months behind invoices !!!