Salvador Jimenez in Cuba.
HAVANA. - Most of the US$450 million that’ll finance the Caribbean’s agriculture could end up in Dominican Republic, as participants in the Petro-Food conference held recently have shown an interest in acquiring local products such a seeds and technologies, which have boosted the country’s farm competitiveness and productivity.
Agriculture minister Salvador Jiménez said the first trade contacts for Dominican farm exports began with key bilateral agreements, as delgations of his pars from Venezuela, Cuba, Honduras, Nicaragua and Jamaica will visit in the next few weeks, interested in learning of the country’s advances in that field.
He said as the result of the Dominican delegation’s efforts the country could acquire a good part of the US$450 million allocated to food security and attain fair trade within the 18-nation PetroCaribe oil accord, a group that he said appears will become one of the most active agribusiness blocs in the region of more than 90 million consumers.
The official said fruit of the Dominican delegation’s efforts in the conclave held in the Cuban capital August 11 and 12, Venezuela Agriculture minister Elías Jaua will visit the country to learn about its livestock and poultry industries, and could lead to possible an agreement to export beef, chickens and eggs to that South American nation.
From: United States
Wow .. food .. I like food.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 9:58 AM
From: United States, Texas
"Most of the US$450 million that’ll finance the Caribbean’s agriculture could end up in Dominican Republic, as participants in the Petro-Food conference held recently have shown an interest in acquiring local products such a seeds and technologies, which have boosted the country’s farm competitiveness and productivity," the DT reports shockingly.
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Agriculture minister Salvador Jiménez performed brilliantly in Havana and the Petrocaribe ministerial council on agriculture also did well.
The DR officially stepped into and officially occupied LA/C leadership vacuum in agricultural policy and programs left by the region's three top food producers -- Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico -- which are absent from Petrocaribe's deliberations.
The Havana deal implies that DR will have access to a pool of capital for significant expansion in its agricultural sector and preferential access to markets of the 18-member Petrocaribe countries.
Mind blowing and unbelievable.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 10:12 AM
From: United States, Texas
Of course, corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie will try to sneak into the Havana deal and steal everything in sight whether or not it's nailed down.
In addition to the sabotage of the corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie, the bourgeois state in the Santo Domingo must watch out for the sabotage of comprador elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie.
The compradors belong to the Dominican bourgeoisie but compradors hate the Dominican bourgeoisie and work with all of the heart, mind and spirit for the US imperialists to destroy or, at least, ruin the Dominican bourbeoisie, especially the patriotic elements of the DR bourgeoisie. Compradors are back-stabbers par excellence.
Compradors are more dangerous than the corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 10:40 AM
From: United States, Texas
"Agriculture minister Salvador Jiménez said the first trade contacts for Dominican farm exports began with key bilateral agreements, as delgations of his pars from Venezuela, Cuba, Honduras, Nicaragua and Jamaica will visit in the next few weeks, " DT reports.
oooo
Some Petrocaribe members want to import or import more food from DR as well as learn about the DR's success in the food industry and they are prepared to pay for the DR's cooperation..
The question is whether DR will thief the money and then give the money, in an act or fit of servility, to US imperialists as IMF payments.
Other Petrocaribe members wait to see if the DR will thief the money. If the DR delivers on its word to Petrocaribe, then they will most likely come into the deal for DR products and services.
But if the DR thief the money of Venezuela, Cuba, Honduras, Nicaragua and Jamaica, which appear to welcome the DR's leadership role in Petrocaribe, then everybody will recoil from the DR.
From: United States
Hallelujah .. like the mythical Phoenix .. the "Son of Karl" once again rises from the ashes .. rumors of his "death" were greatly exaggerated .. it was starting to get boring.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 10:55 AM
From: United States, Texas
"He said as the result of the Dominican delegation’s efforts the country could acquire a good part of the US$450 million allocated to food security and attain fair trade within the 18-nation PetroCaribe oil accord, a group that he said appears will become one of the most active agribusiness blocs in the region of more than 90 million consumers," DT reports.
oooo
So, there will be competition between the DR's model and a non-DR model.
The DR model will get "a good part of the US$450 million allocated to food security."
And non-DR model will get the other part of the US$450 million.
So, after a while, Petrocaribe can look as the results of the DR model and non-DR model to see which one delivers and which one thief the money.
One likely outcome of the Havana deal is US food exporters to the DR, under CAFTA, may cut prices of their food exports, heavily subsidized by the US regime, to the DR and rush in with their low prices and grab the Petrocaribe sales.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 11:07 AM
From: United States, Texas
In theory, under CAFTA, all food subsidies of members, including those for the US farmers, are removed.
This is a sham and a farce.
In practice, under CAFTA, the US subsidies continue. The subsidies are officially transferred from exports to CAFTA countries to exports to non-CAFTA countries. Say, a US farmer exports both to Cuba and to DR. Under CAFTA, the US regime can't subsidize the farmer's exports to DR. But the US regime can subsidize his exports to Cuba. So, the US farmer simply uses the shit-load of money he got for his exports to Cuba to drive the DR farmers out of business.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 11:14 AM
From: United States, Texas
"Hallelujah .. like the mythical Phoenix .. the "Son of Karl" once again rises from the ashes .. rumors of his "death" were greatly exaggerated .. it was starting to get boring."
oooo
Oh, somebody thought I was dead?
I don't know why they think I'm dead.
I'm not dead.
And I didn't rise from ashes ... after all, ashes to ashes ... I rose from the mighty proletariat, marching inexorably from victory to victory.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 12:02 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Most of the US$450 million that’ll finance the Caribbean’s agriculture could end up in Dominican Republic," the DT reports in the first paragraph.
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This "most" seems unrealistic to me, but who knows, this "most" may indeed be the case.
This "most" means that the DR will somehow end up with over $250 million of the $450 million pie.
That seems most unlikely although I can't deny it's the case.
Since there are18 Petrocaribe members, this suggests that each member gets about 1/18 of the $450 million or, in other words, about $25 million.
So, how did the DR come out of the deal with over $250 million?
In third paragraph, the DTsays the DR " could acquire a good part of the US$450 million."
Now, a 'good part" doesn't usually mean "most."
Usually, a "good part" is less than "most."
And a "good part" is usually about a quarter or fifth of the whole.
If it is "most" as the DT says, that's a miracle.
From: United States
Cap'n Crunch .. jump into that bi-plane .. go rat-a-tat .. Son of Karl is taking over the world .. Herr Doktor Johann? .. where the heck are you? Help. You are only there when you really need us.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 12:40 PM
From: United States, Texas
When Petrocaribe last month decided to set up the food Fund, I made a calculation based on the published information that the revenue of the Fund will come from a 50 cents surtax on each barrel of oil sold to non-Petrocaribe memders, chiefly to the USA and EU.
So, USA and EU are unwilling sources for the Fund.
My calculations resulted in about $800,000 of revenue per day for the Fund.
But with the piece in today's DT, that the balance of the Fund is or will be $450 million, this means I significantly underestimated the daily cash flow into the Fund.
With balance of $450 million, the daily cash flow into the Fund is about $1,200,000.
Thank you USA and thank you EU.
In my earlier calculations, I materially underestimated the number barrels Venezuela sells to non-Petrocaribe members and therefore I understated the cash flow.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 1:07 PM
From: United States, Texas
This is the CAFTA and NAFTA model.
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Mexico, Aug 16 (Prensa Latina) NAFTA has resulted in Mexico losing its food sovereignty and increased poverty, experts warned.
Researchers from the National Autonomous University, the National Institute for Forestry, Agricultural and Livestock Research Center warned against Mexico's food dependence and a reduction in the country's agricultural area as a result of the NAFTA.
Horacio Catalan, a professor from UNAM's Economics Faculty, urged a change in the agricultural model that encourages imports to the detriment of national farmers, especially cereal and oleaginous plant growers.
According to Victor Quintana, a Chihuahuan congressman , the government's agricultural policy worsens the vulnerability of Mexican farmers and drains the country's economic resources.
Food imports account for more than 50 percent of profits from oil exports and 72 percent of money remittances.
oooo
CAFTA is more vicious than NAFTA.
Written by: Belial, 16 Aug 2008 5:28 PM
From: United States, Texas
Dominican Republic president sworn in for 3rd term
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic - President Leonel Fernandez promised to boost agriculture production but warned of dire economic times as he was sworn in for a third term on Saturday.
The president said he asked legislators to approve US$210 million to help farmers increase production.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200808...._ylt=AnCkm.I2DS7mrWdTqxeG_623IxIFoooo
Strategically, LF is right on target ... he pursues the strategy of more food.
But does he have the will and tactical agility to get done.
More food can solve the food problem in the DR and more food can relieve the fuel problem for the DR.
More food can buy oil from Venezuela. Hugo doesn't obey the imperial edict to trade oil in US dollars.
Much of the current exports of food to the USA profit only elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie, upper layers of the middle class of the DR, and US imperialists.
Written by: gaddis, 18 Aug 2008 4:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Of course, corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie will try to sneak into the Havana deal and steal everything in sight whether or not it's nailed down.
In addition to the sabotage of the corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie, the bourgeois state in the Santo Domingo must watch out for the sabotage of comprador elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie.
The compradors belong to the Dominican bourgeoisie but compradors hate the Dominican bourgeoisie and work with all of the heart, mind and spirit for the US imperialists to destroy or, at ....clipped for brevity.
oooo
Those corrupt, parasitic and rotten elements are called "capatalists" or businessmen. They buy and sell to make a profit.
Capitalism is the only proven wealth creating economic system ever concieved. Yes it has to be policed but it works.. Communism was a total failure wherever it was or is still half-heartedly practiced. Get over it.
Written by: Belial, 18 Aug 2008 9:09 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Capitalism is the only proven wealth creating economic system ever concieved." gaddis, a brand new member of our talking shop, opines.
oooo
About 95 % of the world lives under this "wealth creating" capitalism and 80% of world lives in extreme poverty which is becoming more extreme by the day with the spread of the food and fuel crises.
Only proven wealth creating economic system ever concieved?
If so, that ain't saying much.
Even in the 15% of the world that consists of rich capitalist countries, we find large and deep pockets of poverty which are growing larger and getting deeper.
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"Most of the US$450 million that’ll finance the Caribbean’s agriculture could end up in Dominican Republic, as participants in the Petro-Food conference held recently have shown an interest in acquiring local products such a seeds and technologies, which have boosted the country’s farm competitiveness and productivity," the DT reports shockingly.
0000
Agriculture minister Salvador Jiménez performed brilliantly in Havana and the Petrocaribe ministerial council on agriculture also did well.
The DR officially stepped into and officially occupied LA/C leadership vacuum in agricultural policy and programs left by the region's three top food producers -- Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico -- which are absent from Petrocaribe's deliberations.
The Havana deal implies that DR will have access to a pool of capital for significant expansion in its agricultural sector and preferential access to markets of the 18-member Petrocaribe countries.
Mind blowing and unbelievable.
In addition to the sabotage of the corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie, the bourgeois state in the Santo Domingo must watch out for the sabotage of comprador elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie.
The compradors belong to the Dominican bourgeoisie but compradors hate the Dominican bourgeoisie and work with all of the heart, mind and spirit for the US imperialists to destroy or, at least, ruin the Dominican bourbeoisie, especially the patriotic elements of the DR bourgeoisie. Compradors are back-stabbers par excellence.
Compradors are more dangerous than the corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie.
oooo
Some Petrocaribe members want to import or import more food from DR as well as learn about the DR's success in the food industry and they are prepared to pay for the DR's cooperation..
The question is whether DR will thief the money and then give the money, in an act or fit of servility, to US imperialists as IMF payments.
Other Petrocaribe members wait to see if the DR will thief the money. If the DR delivers on its word to Petrocaribe, then they will most likely come into the deal for DR products and services.
But if the DR thief the money of Venezuela, Cuba, Honduras, Nicaragua and Jamaica, which appear to welcome the DR's leadership role in Petrocaribe, then everybody will recoil from the DR.
oooo
So, there will be competition between the DR's model and a non-DR model.
The DR model will get "a good part of the US$450 million allocated to food security."
And non-DR model will get the other part of the US$450 million.
So, after a while, Petrocaribe can look as the results of the DR model and non-DR model to see which one delivers and which one thief the money.
One likely outcome of the Havana deal is US food exporters to the DR, under CAFTA, may cut prices of their food exports, heavily subsidized by the US regime, to the DR and rush in with their low prices and grab the Petrocaribe sales.
This is a sham and a farce.
In practice, under CAFTA, the US subsidies continue. The subsidies are officially transferred from exports to CAFTA countries to exports to non-CAFTA countries. Say, a US farmer exports both to Cuba and to DR. Under CAFTA, the US regime can't subsidize the farmer's exports to DR. But the US regime can subsidize his exports to Cuba. So, the US farmer simply uses the shit-load of money he got for his exports to Cuba to drive the DR farmers out of business.
oooo
Oh, somebody thought I was dead?
I don't know why they think I'm dead.
I'm not dead.
And I didn't rise from ashes ... after all, ashes to ashes ... I rose from the mighty proletariat, marching inexorably from victory to victory.
0000
This "most" seems unrealistic to me, but who knows, this "most" may indeed be the case.
This "most" means that the DR will somehow end up with over $250 million of the $450 million pie.
That seems most unlikely although I can't deny it's the case.
Since there are18 Petrocaribe members, this suggests that each member gets about 1/18 of the $450 million or, in other words, about $25 million.
So, how did the DR come out of the deal with over $250 million?
In third paragraph, the DTsays the DR " could acquire a good part of the US$450 million."
Now, a 'good part" doesn't usually mean "most."
Usually, a "good part" is less than "most."
And a "good part" is usually about a quarter or fifth of the whole.
If it is "most" as the DT says, that's a miracle.
So, USA and EU are unwilling sources for the Fund.
My calculations resulted in about $800,000 of revenue per day for the Fund.
But with the piece in today's DT, that the balance of the Fund is or will be $450 million, this means I significantly underestimated the daily cash flow into the Fund.
With balance of $450 million, the daily cash flow into the Fund is about $1,200,000.
Thank you USA and thank you EU.
In my earlier calculations, I materially underestimated the number barrels Venezuela sells to non-Petrocaribe members and therefore I understated the cash flow.
oooo
Mexico, Aug 16 (Prensa Latina) NAFTA has resulted in Mexico losing its food sovereignty and increased poverty, experts warned.
Researchers from the National Autonomous University, the National Institute for Forestry, Agricultural and Livestock Research Center warned against Mexico's food dependence and a reduction in the country's agricultural area as a result of the NAFTA.
Horacio Catalan, a professor from UNAM's Economics Faculty, urged a change in the agricultural model that encourages imports to the detriment of national farmers, especially cereal and oleaginous plant growers.
According to Victor Quintana, a Chihuahuan congressman , the government's agricultural policy worsens the vulnerability of Mexican farmers and drains the country's economic resources.
Food imports account for more than 50 percent of profits from oil exports and 72 percent of money remittances.
oooo
CAFTA is more vicious than NAFTA.
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic - President Leonel Fernandez promised to boost agriculture production but warned of dire economic times as he was sworn in for a third term on Saturday.
The president said he asked legislators to approve US$210 million to help farmers increase production.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200808...._ylt=AnCkm.I2DS7mrWdTqxeG_623IxIF
oooo
Strategically, LF is right on target ... he pursues the strategy of more food.
But does he have the will and tactical agility to get done.
More food can solve the food problem in the DR and more food can relieve the fuel problem for the DR.
More food can buy oil from Venezuela. Hugo doesn't obey the imperial edict to trade oil in US dollars.
Much of the current exports of food to the USA profit only elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie, upper layers of the middle class of the DR, and US imperialists.
In addition to the sabotage of the corrupt, parasitic, and rotten elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie, the bourgeois state in the Santo Domingo must watch out for the sabotage of comprador elements of the Dominican bourgeoisie.
The compradors belong to the Dominican bourgeoisie but compradors hate the Dominican bourgeoisie and work with all of the heart, mind and spirit for the US imperialists to destroy or, at ....clipped for brevity.
oooo
Those corrupt, parasitic and rotten elements are called "capatalists" or businessmen. They buy and sell to make a profit.
Capitalism is the only proven wealth creating economic system ever concieved. Yes it has to be policed but it works.. Communism was a total failure wherever it was or is still half-heartedly practiced. Get over it.
oooo
About 95 % of the world lives under this "wealth creating" capitalism and 80% of world lives in extreme poverty which is becoming more extreme by the day with the spread of the food and fuel crises.
Only proven wealth creating economic system ever concieved?
If so, that ain't saying much.
Even in the 15% of the world that consists of rich capitalist countries, we find large and deep pockets of poverty which are growing larger and getting deeper.