smuggled garic ? ajo? where from?

only the dreaded one would be into snorting garlic ...it was that italian chick that dumped him and he never got over her

yes, but i got the better of the deal. i stole her garlic squeezer!

I bet she never squeezed your garlic

LOL you guys are too much!!!
:)

NYCDR dont forget to let us know when you are coming to SD

Why destroy the garlic?.... Wouldn't it be a better idea if they sell the garlic and donate a portion to the farmers and the rest to the gov't agencies that cooperate to catch these contrabands?

give them to the italians so they can nail them over their doors and hang them around their necks

Those evil garlic smuglers are realy damaging our country, our economy and our children's lives.
Than God we'll have those Super Tucan's soon, so we can put a halt to those evil garli-traficantes!!!

(ps. I bet Hugo's behind all of this)

if anybody believes thay are going to incinerate the confiscated garlic, i invite them to participate in my monthly auction of the Brooklyn Bridge, held every other Saturday at 4pm. bidding starts at one million pesos.

The garlic crisis is international - I am delighted to hear the DR is acting.
http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=17478
Some time ago in another agricultural crisis the local government set uup a packing plant with a special seal indicating origin - like wine. I am sure the Dominican goverment could get funds to do this In the pesent emergency then the present tariff / quota system could be replaced by the plant being the only allowed importer and each bag of garlic could then be marked with country of origin and quality grade. This would also improve collection of tariff. As well as a vital foodstuff garlic is important for the culture of the Spanish speaking world.
http://bipq10.bi.ehu.es/gente/iza/fiestase.htm
Under WTO rules the government can apply for origin-control. Surely the Dominican people should be protected from inferior garlic.
S.

The garlic crisis is international - I am delighted to hear the DR is acting.

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so let me see if I understand this correctly:
There is an international garlic crisis, and garlic smugglers are harming local producers who receive government support... I might be wrong, but for me this does not compute. Can abc200 please explain to me how / why:
1. a subsidized farmer can get hurt by smugglers whilst he should not have any problem selling all his produce at or above market rates due to the scarcity of garlic.
2. a smuggler would want to smuggle garlic into a country where there is surplus subsidized production.
3. origin-control would stop smuggling.

Please enlighten me on this issue, as I might have missed this subject during economics classes.

Nemo, i too am baffled by the economic logic applied here. wait; is there logic here?

ABC200 is a wanker

Yes,
At present garlic is imported under a system of tariff rate quotas. This means that a quota is decided for the year and a tariff of about 23 percent is applied to legitimate imports. The quota can vary depending on local production and acts as a type of price support. This system is common, for example the US as you know has trq's for sugar imports - but in this case quotas are provided for individual supplier countries. The attached document gives useful information on the garlic industry. http://hotdocs.usitc.gov/docs/pubs/701_731/pub3886.pdf
China exports to US are up over 5 years table 1.7 but now consumers in US are less willing to accept China garlic. US has applied a 376% anti-dumping levy on China garlic. China produces 75% of World garlic.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/E8-15465.htm
China garlic has a tough stem mainly and much is grown quickly resulting in poor taste. Origin control would help local producers achieve a good price.

More on garlic:
http://www.gourmetgarlicgardens.com/creoles.htm
So I think that DR garlic is good, part of the food heritage and should be protected.
S

China garlic has a tough stem mainly and much is grown quickly resulting in poor taste. Origin control would help local producers achieve a good price.....this is along with potatoes and onions is protected....grow something else for cash in America not a staple in the DR ....Garlic,potatoes and onions should not be grown here.....Organic cash crops ie Asparagus, mushrooms and exotic peppers etc

i agree with goulet regarding garlic and onions being grown here. import from countries with better comparative advantage in these areas. why on God's green earth is a government subsidising the production of garlic, anyway? the land can better be used for organic food production, which has external market value.

as a follow up to GC on exotic peppers; there is a massive foreign market for hot peppers. Dominicans do not have a great liking for hot peppers, but they make for a very marketable item abroad. yet, in all my years in this country, i am yet to encounter a single decent hot pepper. there are habanero varieties such as the Scotch Bonnet strain, which are in huge demand in the USA. they cannot fill the demand there. if some guy wanted a sure thing, get an acre of suitable land and plant it in hot habaneros. the boys in miami can take all you can grow!

Dread I appreciate your enthusiasm and you are so correct ...let me give you an example Hass Avocados they are grown in the DR for export they command a better price than traditional avocados and are in higher demand in overseas markets....in the DR they look ugly so you cannot give them away....This year mangos are legal to export to US markets ...Agriculture is our Sleeping Giant...stop stealing the money and invest in infrastructure including schools for Agriculture and Hotel schools

Not only will Miami take all we have of quality but the huge market of Puerto Rico and the Lesser Antilles...PR because of labour costs and the Lesser Antilles because they were not as fortunate in fertility and size....they beg for our tomatoes etc ........practically everything they eat comes from Miami....Shelf life of produce [VEGGIES etc} is very short we have a natural advantage.....even nutty hugo recognizes this

Garlic production is labour intensive. There is much land to grow other products without destroying the garlic industry. US farm workers earn 68 times as much as Chinese farm workers - hence the 400% tariff on US garlic imports from China. It is unlikely that your Avacados and mangos will absorb the garlic growers labour. Mangos require little labour. No, the government isright in supporting garlic production by using tariff quotas to preserve employement and prevent the DR from becoming another Haiti. Excess deaths from shipping are described:

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sampl....g/2007/41/i24/html/es071686z.html

60,000 excess deaths from shipping is equivalent to a 9/11 type incident every two weeks. Please bear in mind that this is a first level study, peer reviewed and published by the American Chemical Society.
On a lighter note:
http://www.richardsramblings.com/2004/03/22/chinese-garlic-stinks/


S

Agriculture has good potential in the DR, but as with almost all other things over here it is run by the bandillas (Syndicates).

For a farmer it's simple, or you join a syndicate that will use it's connections to get your market protected and subsidized, or you go and try to grow a cash crop on your own, market it, sell it, etc. etc.

Which one's easier? Join the bandilla off course!!!

with the poor quality of our garlic on a level playing field we could not give it away.....grow cash crops ...it aint garlic ....ABC200 do you use garlic in Toad in the hole or your Bangers and mash

of course because that is the reality of cash crops everywhere except expensive exotics and direct sell which is in the picture at a later date ............you wet blankets are a bunch of socialists just like Raul and thety cant grow Squat over there...cash cash cash...thats what agriculture is about how fast can you get to market and sell it

I must have good garlic for my Patatas con Ajo y Perejil and garlic chicken. There is some good garlic here with pungency. Garlic grows in arid regions that may not be suitable for other crops.
The UK can and does grow its own peppers. Expansion is in hand.
http://www.pepperstoday.com/new.php?news_id=333
Why not the good people of Miami?
Kill food miles!
S

recipe for famous" Dominican Garlic Chicken.".....1st....Steal one chicken

Kill food miles not people!
S.

if you dont steal it it does not taste as good you wanker

Why should the DR export the best food to competitors in the tourist maket? Actually some crook of a middleman will take most of the profit. The DR should be self sufficient in food and export just a little to pay for essentials such as oil from the Venzueala. Trade based money laundering can be minimised.

http://www.world-check.com/media/....tion_for_Finance_and_Trade_08.pdf
Sensible countries have large programs to localise food production and make for self-sufficiency and sustainability.
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gl....20070907/business/business10.html

S
Food miles kill! Kill food miles!

you are way out there abc ....you would export these thing to your competition because they will pay a good price for them

No, Puero Rico etc. should pay local wage rates to raise pineapples for their hotels. This will put the PR price of pineapples up and .... guess what ... they have to raise hotel prices to cover. Also if DR exports pineapples the price of pineapples to Dominicans may go up also. DR will then more competitive when PR etc. have to raise prices. . Ditto when Miami etc raise prices. From the evidence most of USA should go back to economics school and then get the varous parasites off their backs.
Every market need control - if DeBeers suddenly released its stock of diamonds the price of diamonds would fall rapidly - and medium term their sales would fall. At one time the price of garlic fell to 10 cents a pound - hence the import duty of 400% in the US. If the DR must export pineapples etc. then it should apply an export duty to bring them near the price of production in the importing country..
S

you are a moron abc hotel rooms are three times the price in Puerto Rico have you ever been there?..and you are a double Dumb@ss the pineapples everyone buys are not from here DR pineapples sux they are not sweet enough....the GoldenVariety sold in hotels through out the Caribbean is from Costa Rica where Dole went after the DR government ran them out of the DR....they are just beginning to produce this variety here

Pineapples are exported from DR to USA for years. They go via PR in reefers from my friend in this business and some are left there.
http://www.intracen.org/Organics/documents/Dominican-Republic.pdf
According to season mangos, bananas etc. travel in the same reefers.
Cost Rica should wake up and charge an export tax.
When I was in Miami for sunday breafeast among the 200 dishes were plates of different varieties of pineapple with little flags for the country of origin. Four types are in common cultivation - good natural pineapple is produced without ephaphon. My favourite dish, common in hotels is pineapple, jicama pumpkin seed and rice salad. An underipe pineapple is best.
CR's pineapple exports are on the backs of the CR people who live in poverty bacause much of their best land has been turned into plantations ruining the environment.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/50980.html#
CR has suffered before:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/47/033.htm

The fat cats that own the hotels in PR can well afford to pay a Dominican export tax on pineapples if they really want the 'real thing' and not some cardboard replica. Meanwhile the DR will be increasingly attractive to discerning people.
S

DR pineapples sux and are used for garnish we used to sell case of large for 12 bucks Costa Rica large 18 bucks...sorry abc the real thing? the Dominican workers would not eat them if they had a choice

To save food miles we all follow the fine Nordic husmanskost tradition of local ingredients. I'm sure a man of your ability can create a fruit salad with the DR local organic ingredients that would pass muster with the most critical of gourmets. Perhaps finish the occasion with fine Dominincan organic mountain coffee. Meanwhile back to Garlic - when the Chinese sold too cheap the US slapped a 400 % duty on the bunches of garlic. Garlic growers here deserve our support.
S

Contraband from Haiti hurts local crop
The Constanza Valley Garlic Growers Association is complaining that its members are about to lose more than 50,000 quintals of garlic from this year's crop, due to the enormous amount of garlic that is crossing the border from Haiti. This garlic is imported from China for eventual distribution in the Dominican Republic. So far, the authorities have not located the masterminds behind the scheme. Dominican garlic producers say that despite the fact that there is a specialized corps of military personnel on the frontier, trucks and containers full of garlic are crossing the border and heading to the markets of Santiago and Santo Domingo, and nobody sees that this is illegal competition for the local producers. According to the association, local garlic producers owe more than RD$1 billion to local banks and will go bankrupt if they cannot sell their product.
S from DR1.com

dont grow garlic ....and switch to the Golden pineapple perfected in Costa Rica it is prettier and has more residual sugar ...and thats what it is all about taste

Hope yer pinas will grow here - perhaps you did even worse than McCain attending college!
http://www.binghamton.edu/anthro/graduates/cmelendez/fieldPhotos1.html
Perhaps a few million dollars for greenhouses!
Perhaps you use the pina sugar to make beer that refreshes the parts other beers cannot reach!
E- for agro-economics!
S

moron you do not grow pinas in Constanza and you should not grow garlic no money in it....try strawberries...mushrooms ....why not asparagus and artichokes....but not onions potatoes and garlic

I understood your diatribe - you said switch to pinas - golden ones!
S

Great garlic!
http://www.thegarlicfarm.co.uk/index.asp
Sad pineapple situation - the World only needs so many pineapples when one plantation opens another closes somewhere leaving a big mess to clean up and contamination. Its better if each country produces its own garlic ,pineapples, potatoes, rice etc. if it can do so.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com....e/2006/Feb/02/ln/FP602020326.html
S

The industry has struggled with competition from top foreign producers such as Costa Rica, Mexico and Ecuador, but was rebounding on increased U.S. consumption — driven in part by the introduction of "extra-sweet" pineapples........extra sweet also known as golden variety is what the public wants not the Dominican variety

like the tuna .....sorry charley

Yes, the crooks that organise pineapple plantations hack yet another piece fo jungle and use highly toxic chemicals.
http://www.greenpeace.org/seasia/....es/greenpeace-slams-del-monte-and
These crooks pay advertising execs to create demand for this fruit transported vast distances by belching container ships. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-08-30-ship-pollution_x.htm
Food miles kill - kill food miles. Localisation and country food self sufficiency is the way forward. The DR can well do without Chinese garlic and if it needs to just export a little organic produce to neighboring countries. I'm sure that consumers, when the explantions are made, are happy to accept a few blemishes on their fruit when they know highly toxic chemicals were not used in production. Some of this produce could be exported by sailing ships or sail assisted ships.
S