SANTO DOMINGO.- President Leonel Fernandez and Puerto Rico governor Luis Fortuño, resumed the talks to establish a strategic alliance between both countries in the areas of trade, investment, energy and ethanol production.
"It’s a project that was originally born in 1986 and has been updated every once in a while, of which we’ve said that we must update it once again and include diverse topics having to do with trade, investments, the energy topic. We are raising the possibility of ethanol production in the Dominican Republic,” Fernandez said after meeting with the Puerto Rican leader.
In that regard, the chief executive said through the Free Trade Agreement with the United States and Central America, (DR-CAFTA) the tariff payment to the Puerto Rican market could be established and therefore contribute to being less dependent on fossil fuels and also have a type of fuel that’s friendlier to the environment.
The two leaders also stated their mutual interest in buying natural gas from Middle Eastern countries and to establish Puerto Rico vast regional platform to refine and distribute fuel.
Fernandez said it’s also possible for Puerto Rico to attract investment for wind energy with the particularity that the plants can be manufactured on that island and can only the final assembly anywhere in the world.
He said a meeting of a mixed bilateral commission has been set for January 31, to follow up on the agreements.
Written by: Juango, 5 Jan 2009 10:08 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Good one LF. Lets use PR for a DR Economic Business Model/ Partner. PR could not survive, for it not the funds the US dumps on that Island. We, the USA, should cut our losses and let PR be free of our Imperial Grasp. Would they (PR) sink or swim? LF's meeting with the Gov. of PR is a foolish waste of time, the blind leading the blind. LF, educate your people and let the future Dominican generations develop new industries and businesses that will bring revenue to the DR. Stop looking for handouts, it is getting old.
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2009 11:12 AM
From: United States
Juango,
You are on target!
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2009 12:52 PM
From: United States
In the picture you see Bob Hope and No Hope; each one is an understudy for the other!
Written by: Juango, 5 Jan 2009 2:48 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Funny, but I see it differently. I see Charlie McCarthy (Luis Fortuno) with Edgar Bergen's (Leonel's) hand up his posterior saying:
"Tell 'em it ain't so, tell 'em, e' pa lante que vamos".
Regardless, Josean, I think you are right.
From: United States
Lmfao I actually had to sign up so i can say HA HA at your spanish haitian comments. "Puerto rico cant survive". We may not have the great resources but spanish haiti and Haiti can never survive, a bunch of monos who cant seem to find a correct form of government. Luis munoz marin is my relative and he created the best commonwealth system, which was a win win.
From: United States
Just for the record, Puerto rico can produce it own eneregy, d.r cant.
From: United States
killuminait, when you say that PR can "produce its own energy", what do you mean? do you mean that it can generate it from some source indigenous to PR? and, in what respect is "commonwealth system" a win-win? as opposed to what? is a colony a winner, as opposed to an independent country? please fill me in.
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2009 4:24 PM
From: United States
Actually Lie-onel has a lot in common with Luis Muñoz Marin, least of which is their pathological lying.
That's why my Puerto Rican freinds called him Muñoz Mentira!
Written by: devin11, 5 Jan 2009 5:43 PM
From: United States
A colony is never a winner as compared to an independent country although I profess that the term independent country in Latin America and the Caribbean is historically oxymoronic. Independence is a dignity that should be celebrated by the sons and daughters of all nation states. The problem with the nation states in our region is the rampant corruption by the heads of states. The infractions committed by these independent governments are so disenfranchising that a great majority of the people would prefer to be a patriotic national advocate of independence for their country while living in another place. The poor and needy are starved of education, opportunity and hope, what would their response be to "at least you are free"! What is freedom without hope, without opportunity and without progress? Someday, some great political maverick will re-write the doctrine for decency and opportunity in L.A. and showcase a model of economic empowerment for all other L.A.C. to follow.
Cont.
Written by: devin11, 5 Jan 2009 5:45 PM
From: United States
Until then, I'll say, "pick your poison."
Written by: antonio1, 5 Jan 2009 7:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
The future of the DR economy is tight to our trade with PR and Haiti, We cannot pack and move to another latitude so lets work to open up those markets.
From: United States
Guys,say what you want, but let's not forget the fact that LF is a regional leader and a politician playing politics in an international arena. Who knows what is the actual intent and motive of his visits. They are not really going to tell, what both leaders actually talked about in private. Remember, what they discussed behind close door is one thing and what they tell us is another. You never take things from politicians at face value and subsequently don't believe everything they say and what ever is said take it with a grain of salt and learn to read between the lines.
Nevertheless, last I heard, LF recently got back from the middle east and met with the leaders of oil rich countries. LF was trying to entice the Arabs to invest in the DR and convert it into a regional cargo trans-shipping hub and a natuaral gas distribution center for the caribbean. Now he wants to get Puerto Rico involved in the deal, who knows what LF is up to.
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2009 8:38 PM
From: United States
"regional leader "
You must mean Guachupita, Los Alcarrizos and Villa Juanna right?
From: United States
Yeah, right man you got it to the T and let us not also forget "El Hoyo de Chulin" and "Christo Rey" , Gualey, Trueva, Pueblo Nuevo, La 40, El Caliche, Yaquito, Las Flores, Santa Rosa y Puerto Isabela--LF together with Padre Rogelio both make great regional leaders or is it community leaders, ah man I get so confused some times, I just can't tell the difference. Then again I don't recall padre Rogelio ever meeting with Arab sheiks or is it Haitian Freaks. Well, maybe LF should just stay home and ride around the capitolio in a pasola to save on gas and his wife elegantly dress just tagging along. All of those Honorary degrees from Harvard, Princeton and Yale is a perfect example of what's the use. Padre Rogelio should get one too. Hey, how about if LF makes a foto copy erases his name and prints Padre Rogelio Cruz name on it. Better yet, scan the degree, copy and paste his name on it. You will never know the difference. The again I get confused with Regional and community leaders.
From: United States, New York
Killuminait43,
DR found the proper form of government a LONG time ago, with troubles yes, but it is a democracy that hasn't suffered a coup, so stop hatin'.
There is no way in the world Puerto Rico could survive without the U.S. Coming up with the money for military defense, coastal defense and infrastructure alone will kill it before the independence parade ends.
And lastly, considering that taxes paid by Dominicans in mainland U.S. contribute to supporting the little welfare island, show some more respect on DominicanToday.
From: United States
Killuminait43, dreadlocks asked you some very legitimate questions and we are waiting for an intelligent answer from you. I don't know if a Puerto Ricans can give, is able to or capable of giving a smart response. Have you not heard of of the 3 Island theory? "No hay Dominicano blanco, no hay boricua intelligente, ni tanpoco un Cubano que no hable mierda." Remember we Dominicans are the Monos and you boricuas son brutos todos, at least with the Cubans we can enjoy hearing them talk shit.
From: United States
My Grandfather was a Dominican of Spanish descent who owned a small trucking company in the Cibao region during the 1930's. He remembered hiring a couple of Puerto Rican employees as laborers when Puerto Ricans briefly migrated on mass to the DR. Yes, Puerto Ricans at one time use to be what today are the Haitian migrants of yesteryear. Things were so bad on the island that the quickest solution was to jump on a makeshift boat and head to the DR to get work. DR was underpopulated and land was plentiful with lots of jobs. Thousands of Puerto Ricans flocked to our country to live and work. They were readily accepted and welcomed with open arms. One particular place of preference, among others, was San Jose de Ocoa. Today you can find many natives in this town who have common Puerto Rican surnames, such as colon, nieves, ortiz, Rivera, collazo, Irrizarry ect. In fact during this period Willie Colon maternal grandmother was Dominican born of Puerto Rican parents who later migrated to NY.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Don't waste your time guillermone... Killuminait43 is very proud to be a decedant of the man that found political harmony in a master / parasitic relationship... Don't even answer him... We know the real facts...
Hey Killuminait43... If you ever find yourself on Dominican soil, do stop by Jose Maria de Hosto's grave... and tell him how proud you are of your island status!!!
Written by: devin11, 6 Jan 2009 1:11 AM
From: United States
The Puerto Rican colonial status is a failure that was always doomed to flounder from it's very inception. Colonialism, however, is not the only precursor to a failed governmental or political system. The D.R. can count on independence, with exception to the 1902 Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine, the 1906 control and administration of the Dominican Customs department, the 1912 redefinition of the Haitian / Dominican border, the 1916 American invasion and occupation, the 1965 American invasion and occupation, the American coerced Dominican signatory of DR-CAFTA, the American coerced Dominican trade with Taiwan and not China, etc. and et. al. With social indicators a notch below that of Sri Lanka and a practice of such judicial dereliction that prosecutes a salami theft in a colmado with prolonged jail time and yet pardons noble thieves.
Cont----
Written by: devin11, 6 Jan 2009 1:11 AM
From: United States
A pop. of almost 20% (highest per capita in westen hem.) living abroad, proven interaction of drug trafficking within the executive, judiciary and military branches of the government. An educational, health and infrastructural component that is lurid by most any new world standard. Please pardon me but with all these factual realities, I don't think it appropriate to expound or exhort to Puerto Rico about failed governments or political systems.
Hey CarlosFranco, the next time you gaze out to sea, do take a moment to say a prayer to all of those who have lost and continue to lose their lives trying to get away from their utopic independence, tell them how proud you are of your island status!!!
From: United States, Brooklyn
In spite of all that... I am very proud Devin11!!! Our government has proven to be ineffective many times... but yours is no example to us or any country for that matter... So excuse me if I don't agree with your comparison of How DR and PR are both in the same way dominated by the US...
DR gravitates independently around the US economy, like many of the world countries do, even West European states... We are in fact so much in control that at times we choose to make that economy prosper or fuck it up.... PR is a colony of that country (not just economically) but by choice, your standard of living is nurtured by the yearly influx of US dollar... Your President is a white boy with no connection to your island!
Finally, I personally have nothing against your people, but you cannot expect me not to say something when the Royal parasite like Killuminait43 insults my country, so unless you agree with him don't respond when I retaliate!
Written by: devin11, 6 Jan 2009 3:09 AM
From: United States
CarlosFranco,
Killuminait43 did not insult your country, the only thing he insulted is himself. His rhetoric and intellectual deficiencies are obvious, he is an idiot. You however are not and as such I expect better from the segacious than the idiot. I make no affront to your pride or nationalistic fervor, my only contention is that it historically serves no benefit to the overwhelming majority of the people that inhabit the D.R. I also say that the Dominican Governmental system is no model for any country to follow or to serve as a symbol of the benefits of an independent state. By the way, my "island" is Manhattan Island, where I was born and raised. My great-grandmother was of Puerto Rican descent, so I don't even know if that allows me to claim heritage. My response, unlike yours was not based on any patriotic motility.
Finally, if as indicated by your locale, your president is also a white boy with even less conection to your island.
From: United States
guys, do not waste time with killuminaiti. he thought that he would make a few gratuitous insults against the DR, and we would all nod in approval , and send him a thank you bouquet. he now realises that insults are like a gate; they swing both ways. now he appears to have scurried off like a cowardly mouse, unable to defend his position. my advice, killum, is to do what you were doing before. stay on the sidelines and observe. only when you have acquired the requisite skills should you seek to play the game.
From: United States
and, killum, bear in mind the most important fact; although dominican presidents have not served this country optimally, at least dominicans get to choose their leadership. they are governed by a president whom they elect. to this day, the chief executive of PR is the president of the USA, who appoints the Governor. with a system of government like that in the 21st century, i would be reluctant to go slinging insults at independent people.
From: United States, New York City
"Killuminait43 did not insult your country, the only thing he insulted is himself. His rhetoric and intellectual deficiencies are obvious, he is an idiot."
Well said, devin. Well said.
Written by: Escott, 6 Jan 2009 11:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a few days a month
What this is is just some more smoke and mirrors.
What happened to that Oil Refinery on the North West Coast? Some as all the other BS Hippo with hair have been throwing at you daily. Smoke and mirrors.
Where's the BEEF?
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 12:10 PM
From: United States
Godd to hear from you Escott!
Written by: devin11, 6 Jan 2009 4:03 PM
From: United States
Dred,
The Dominican people have not always been governed by the president whom they elected as "El Generalisimo" and Juan Bosch are among the most egregious examples. How many elections have been stolen even with international election monitors present? Did the voters really choose President Balageur to govern them when he successfully ran for office? To say that Dominican presidents have not served the country well is the understatement of the century especially when you are endowed with great command of the historical and current erudition of the facts.
The president of the United States is indeed the chief executive of Puerto Rico but he does not appoint the governor, not since 1948. All federal laws trump state laws on the island and the governor is chosen by the voting public. And , again, it is also a very poor model and system of government.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Devin... thanks for assessing Killuminait43's comment as wrong and uncalled for, and forgive my temper, La sangre se me sube a la cabeza when I hear my country being attacked by those who don't know her history.
Written by: devin11, 6 Jan 2009 4:39 PM
From: United States
CarlosFranco,
I appreciate your response, thank you.
From: United States
" No hay un boricua intelligente". I just gave you my relative who was Luis munoz Marin. Do your research and see why I and Puerto rico are proud of him. Dominicans never had any intelligent President, leader. Luis Munoz marin is considered one of the most influential politicians of the america's, richard nixon himself once said Blacks cant run a country with out corruption. Latins (Italy, and france included) couldnt except Luis munoz marin.
From: United States
Puerto rico gets to elect its governor fool, Lmfao. What are you talking about "the president gets to elect the leader of Puerto Rico". Spanish haitians.
From: United States
Monday June 23,1958
" the minds of men in underdeveloped lands all over the world were turned last week to crowded carribean island that flies a Proud One star besides the stars and strips. To men in New delhi, Accra, Bankok and Morroco etc , tiny Puerto Rico, which has clawed its way in 15 years to a nearly double standard of living, spoke an urgent message of hope through self help- and spoke it with the special clarity of a teacher who is only ten pages ahead of the class.
From: United States
lmfao Carlos franco who cares about your temper or damn d.r. I laugh at you.
From: United States
i find it very laughable when you quote Nixon's assertion about black corruption. by the way, was that the same Nixon who resigned over Watergate? that is a nice example to look to as an authority on human morality.
From: United States
actually, killum, you are the entertainer in this case; the court jester, even, have you noticed that there is almost a consensus that you are an idiot? and you are yet to offer an answer to my question regarding Puerto Rico producing its "own energy".
From: United States
And devin, the common wealth system was never a failure. Things are not going well in Puerto Rico because their has not been an illustrious and great leader since Luis Munoz Marin- although many have been good-; and because its time for a new model and new reforms. When LMM reigned, Puerto Rico had the second highest income capita( only behind oil rich venezuela). When LMM led, leaders of underdeveloped countries took the flight to Puerto Rico, so they can personally witness the magnificence that was occuring- through self- help-JFK said it best- not welfare. When LMM the Architect of the commonwealth system, held the post of Governor, Puerto Rico had a great culture artistically and educationally. The university of Puerto Rico had great teachers from around the world, Jose ferrer became the first Hispanic actor to win an oscar( which he would later give to the university of Puerto Rico. Rita Moreno would become the first hispanic actress to win an oscar....
Written by: devin11, 6 Jan 2009 7:12 PM
From: United States
Killuminait43,
If you are a truly a descendent of Luis Munoz Marin or of any educated person, I will never, ever again, claim heritage to Puerto Rico. You are an embarrassment to all decent Puerto Ricans who will be regarded by some to be as ignorant and racist as you are. Having cultural or ethnic pride is a joy for people of all ethnicities but using that pride to disrespect and belittle another culture is shameful. You are a sad and ignorant person, please refrain from eliciting your nationality when referencing your illogical and hateful views, the Puerto Rican people cannot afford many more national embarrassments.
From: United States
Rafeael Hernadez would write Preciosa( I dare a dominican to produce a song as great as preciosa and other Puerto rican folk songs). Juan Ramon Jimenez a great Spanish poet settled in Puerto rico. Pablo casals the greatest cellist ( who's Mother was Puerto rican) settled in Puerto Rico and created the casal's festival. Everything was riding high for Puerto Rico, so dont tell me that the commonwealth system was in vain because it wasnt. Puerto Rico needs someone like him to put it back where it belongs, as the gateway of american hispanic relations. Im only 17 years old and i know this.
From: United States
Oh Devin, you are only seeing it one way. I never had any problems with dominicans because Im a strong proponent of Latino unity. My philosophy is that we are all the same, we just ended up settling in different territories. And sometimes i feel bad generalizing dominicans, but the truth be told is that Puerto Ricans always helped dominicans. Many puerto ricans actually help dominicans get citizenship, and many dominicans talke behind puerto ricans backs. In their envy, they will critize our relations with the united states. Many Puerto Ricans are wising up on these people, my mother sends money to the dominican republic, and I wish she didnt.
From: United States
killum, now i understand. i have to go easy on you. you have a lot to learn, as you are still young. but, tread lightly here, my little man. there are formidable minds here who will embarrass you, if you deserve it.
From: United States
dreadlocks lol im pretty sure this 17 year old mind would run circles around many people on this board.
From: United States
Now dreadlocks your question on energy? ( many people i had to target on this page and i couldnt get to it earlier, but no worry the answer is simple). Renweable energy is possible in Puerto Rico because it lies on the "puerto rico trench" the deepest part of the atlantic ocean. And though i read about it and only retain a minimal ( science isnt my greatest area), there is a video on youtube called renewable energy from the deep ocean Puerto rico. Puerto rico can artifically prouduce energy for the whole carribean.
From: United States
any island in the caribbean has the potential for producing renewable energy for the entire region, be it wind, solar, or otherwise. the constraints are technology and capital (real capital and human capital) if Puerto Rico does not get technology and capital from outside, the puerto rico trench is just another deep body of water. do you realistically believe that if it is left alone PR can develop this technology and capital?
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 9:06 PM
From: United States
Not a smart monkey just a trained one or rather brain washed!
From: United States
go easy on him, josean; he is but a child. he is still wet behind the ears. he is getting a little taste of the major leagues, so handle him with kid gloves.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2009 8:13 AM
From: United States
From: United States
this board keeps cracking me up. dreadlocks is this the board in which you said people have formidable minds? is this what you call formidable minds? can every one on this board state there age, and occupation ? we got a guy name guillermone who thinks he is going to upset a puerto rican by cracking lame, old jokes- by the way, there are no jokes on dominicans because you people arent visible, but puerto ricans and other latinos have plenty-. he also stated a lie, that showhow the world has this view on puerto ricans- i would like to know the class of people they are, maybe poor folks or poor latinos who are envious at puerto rico's standard of living, like many dominicans - dreadlocks your dilusional because you keep stating that your taking it easy, but your not even giving me a drop of this so called flood storm your "formdable minds" possess. i dont even need a rain coat, none of you are wetting this 17 year old lmfao.
From: United States
guillermone, you give me a short list of dominicans who happen to be of spanish blood, and im supposed to agree that the majority of dominicans dont look like mono spanish haitians? a little trivia also, oscar de la renta the most famous dominican, his father happen to be puerto rican.
From: United States
guillermone... why arent thier any puerto ricans on star trek? thats a good question, i call it injustice since puerto ricans are deep when it comes to nasa. every year nasa goes to puerto rico to recruit engineers. this is a quote " out of the 114 hispanics working in nasa 70 are puerto rican or of puerto rican descent" joseph acaba is a puerto rican astronaut. dr. orlando figueroa is the director of the mars exploration program. etc etc. now guillermone if you dont see a puerto rican on star trek, guess what you definatly wont see?........ thats right a do-mi-ni-can!!!!!
From: United States
and josean, what is it with you and luis fortuno being a cubanito. Luis fortuno is Puerto rican, his wife is spanish so where is the cuban connection? yes their are a few ungratious cubans in puerto rico, who want to get involve in p.r's politics but they never were strong like the cubans in miami. Stop giving Cubans more credit than they deserve, I love the cubans more than anybody, love their tenacity - reminds me of my family- but they are not all that powerful.
From: United States, New York City
Kill, it's funny that you would call dominicans "monos" and then take pride in your own Rafael hernandez, who was a black man himself. And don't think that there haven't been those of Dominican descent that have influenced your people. Betances? Half Dominican. In fact the flag of Lares, Puerto Rico's first flag, was modeled after the Dominican flag, obvious to anyone that has ever saw it. Hostos himself was of Dominican descent. The great entertainer Tito Rodriguez also half Dominican. Your island doesn't exist in a vacuum.
From: United States
betances father was a spanish merchant who happen to be born in hispanola, the part that would later become the dominican republic. He swore no alligance to the dominican republic. SO he is not of dominican descent, since it was common for spanish descant to settle in diffrent colonial territories, which ever was prosperous at the time. yes tito rodriguez mother was half dominican, but by the way he looks chances are she was also of spanish descent and not a typical sterotypical dominican. " your island doesnt exist in a vacuum" another dumb statement. Thats it for me, Im done in this site, Im disappointed at myself that i would even waste my precious time with you people on this page. Could be doing something of some importance than waste my time arguing with people who's opinion mean spit.
From: United States, New York City
"Could be doing something of some importance than waste my time arguing with people who's opinion mean spit. "
My sentiments exactly. Be gone.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2009 11:50 AM
From: United States
Why are you guys wasting your time with this placenta?
This guy is the product of the 500 plus years of a colonialized mentality that unfortunately most Puerto Ricans suffer from.
He is most likely a "cubanitio" in disguise trying to create friction between us and our Puerto Rican brothers.
From: United States
I can't believe this kid Kuli, is he for real or what, or just a plain idiot. What is his obsession with this Puerto Rican thing? The way he carries on is not of a person who is mentally balanced. I was a psychology major in college and he displays characteristics atypical of people with very low self-esteem. He can only feel good about himself by degrading and belittling others. Notice from the very begining of his post he starts out to pull ranks, repeatedly states how he is related to Luis munoz Marin. He has very clearly demonstrated that his value as a human is dependent on his bloodline as if he were of Royal Blue Blood, when everyone knows being related to a long dead political figure (that out side of PR no one remembers) does not buy you a cup of coffee across the street. Kuli what is this need for you to boast on how great is Puerto Rico. There is no need if you and your "countrymen" are really and truly GREAT. "Dime de que tu alardes y te diré de que careces."
From: United States
Listen Kuli you have a lot to learn and growing up to do. You are a very ignorant.child. I know you have never been to the DR, you don't know our culture and you don't kown our people, otherwise, you would never express yourself the way you do and I also don't believe you are really a true Puerto Rican because a real boricua will never talk the way you do. You are most likely a Nuyorikan and your kind is rejected by the real Ricans on the island. I know PR very well and visited every knook n' kranny on the Island.I am familiar with the good and the bad about your people and the Island. But the bad does not blind me to see the good. When I first came to the US my very first friend was a PR, but so was my very first enemy. It did not make me hate your people because their is good and bad in everyone. Puerto Rico and it people are full of virtue, but you fail to see the many weakness it also has.True greatness comes when you see, admit and accept your weaknesses and frailties.
From: United States
There is no point in continuing to debate with you, we are just going around in circles. People are Dominican and Puerto Rican when it is convenient for you or when it is to your advantage only. otherwise you refute every point without logic and solid foundation. Your reasoning skills need to be fine tune and your thought patterns are extremist. Your arguments sound like a spoiled kid bickering on a baseball field that wants to win no matter what and at what ever cost regardless of the stupidities that you say. We were enjoying poking fun at you but now it is no fun anymore.
Learn about the DR and then come back to to us again at another time. Believe me once you really know us, you will have a total change of attitude. And remember be nice to the nerd, you might one day end up working for one or be nice to the MONO they might one day gang up on you when you are alone in the jungle. Japan was a backward country but later became a world power
DR can also be the next Japan.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Killumiat43.... Our community sucess doesn't depend on your opinion, so deal with it... nothing you say can altered that fact we have made lots of sucess at home and abroad, independently i might add.
P.S. I'd like to say that I am sorry, i didn't realize you were just some high school punk...
From: United States
dreadlocks, you tell it like it is. buddy. You are absolutely right. Funny, what you said. But in my earlier post. I mentioned about how in some countries to my surprise, poke fun at Puerto Rican intelligence. Well it so happens that on one of my trips to Panama City, the Panamanians repeatedly kept telling PR jokes and I just could not believe it.
Anyway, I previously posted a few Puerto Rican jokes, just for the heck of it, but they were all deleted. I guess because it was considered insulting or discriminatory. But for some reason they did not delete Kullimati racial innuendos about Dominicans and I just wonder why? I think his insults were a lot worse and we know that Kuli was very serious about it. I personally was just having fun and meant no harm. I like Puerto Ricans and have nothing personally against them. I judge every person individually by their own merits and behavior not by a nationality or race. I only dislike those who try to humiliate and belittle me
Written by: devin11, 7 Jan 2009 7:38 PM
From: United States
Guillermone,
American blacks make jokes about Caribbean blacks, Panamanians make jokes about Puerto Ricans, Columbians make jokes about Dominicans and so on and so forth. What does it matter, except for the time and effort that it takes to engage someone like Killuminait. He does well enough on his own to execrate himself with his crude and laughable rhetoric because anyone with a semblance of reason knows that he is an idiot. Unfortunately by engaging the idiot it brings you down as well, even though defending your virtues are a natural act of your consternation. One should not try to use extremism to battle extremism, which is why I found his insults of Dominicans just as insulting as your insults of Puerto Ricans. When one chooses to dance with the devil one must remember that the devil does not change, the devil changes you.
From: United States
Well said devin!!!
From: United States
dreadlocks, they deleted your comment, MAN and I am really pissed. But at least they took out Kuli's stupid post as well. Man the reviewers really butchered this blog.
Dreadlocks, I really liked what you said It was not at all derogotory or offensive. I don't know why they took it out. See if can repeat it before they take it out again. I want to keep a copy of that comment.
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You are on target!
"Tell 'em it ain't so, tell 'em, e' pa lante que vamos".
Regardless, Josean, I think you are right.
That's why my Puerto Rican freinds called him Muñoz Mentira!
Cont.
Nevertheless, last I heard, LF recently got back from the middle east and met with the leaders of oil rich countries. LF was trying to entice the Arabs to invest in the DR and convert it into a regional cargo trans-shipping hub and a natuaral gas distribution center for the caribbean. Now he wants to get Puerto Rico involved in the deal, who knows what LF is up to.
You must mean Guachupita, Los Alcarrizos and Villa Juanna right?
DR found the proper form of government a LONG time ago, with troubles yes, but it is a democracy that hasn't suffered a coup, so stop hatin'.
There is no way in the world Puerto Rico could survive without the U.S. Coming up with the money for military defense, coastal defense and infrastructure alone will kill it before the independence parade ends.
And lastly, considering that taxes paid by Dominicans in mainland U.S. contribute to supporting the little welfare island, show some more respect on DominicanToday.
Don't waste your time guillermone... Killuminait43 is very proud to be a decedant of the man that found political harmony in a master / parasitic relationship... Don't even answer him... We know the real facts...
Hey Killuminait43... If you ever find yourself on Dominican soil, do stop by Jose Maria de Hosto's grave... and tell him how proud you are of your island status!!!
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Hey CarlosFranco, the next time you gaze out to sea, do take a moment to say a prayer to all of those who have lost and continue to lose their lives trying to get away from their utopic independence, tell them how proud you are of your island status!!!
DR gravitates independently around the US economy, like many of the world countries do, even West European states... We are in fact so much in control that at times we choose to make that economy prosper or fuck it up.... PR is a colony of that country (not just economically) but by choice, your standard of living is nurtured by the yearly influx of US dollar... Your President is a white boy with no connection to your island!
Finally, I personally have nothing against your people, but you cannot expect me not to say something when the Royal parasite like Killuminait43 insults my country, so unless you agree with him don't respond when I retaliate!
Killuminait43 did not insult your country, the only thing he insulted is himself. His rhetoric and intellectual deficiencies are obvious, he is an idiot. You however are not and as such I expect better from the segacious than the idiot. I make no affront to your pride or nationalistic fervor, my only contention is that it historically serves no benefit to the overwhelming majority of the people that inhabit the D.R. I also say that the Dominican Governmental system is no model for any country to follow or to serve as a symbol of the benefits of an independent state. By the way, my "island" is Manhattan Island, where I was born and raised. My great-grandmother was of Puerto Rican descent, so I don't even know if that allows me to claim heritage. My response, unlike yours was not based on any patriotic motility.
Finally, if as indicated by your locale, your president is also a white boy with even less conection to your island.
Well said, devin. Well said.
What happened to that Oil Refinery on the North West Coast? Some as all the other BS Hippo with hair have been throwing at you daily. Smoke and mirrors.
Where's the BEEF?
The Dominican people have not always been governed by the president whom they elected as "El Generalisimo" and Juan Bosch are among the most egregious examples. How many elections have been stolen even with international election monitors present? Did the voters really choose President Balageur to govern them when he successfully ran for office? To say that Dominican presidents have not served the country well is the understatement of the century especially when you are endowed with great command of the historical and current erudition of the facts.
The president of the United States is indeed the chief executive of Puerto Rico but he does not appoint the governor, not since 1948. All federal laws trump state laws on the island and the governor is chosen by the voting public. And , again, it is also a very poor model and system of government.
Devin... thanks for assessing Killuminait43's comment as wrong and uncalled for, and forgive my temper, La sangre se me sube a la cabeza when I hear my country being attacked by those who don't know her history.
I appreciate your response, thank you.
" the minds of men in underdeveloped lands all over the world were turned last week to crowded carribean island that flies a Proud One star besides the stars and strips. To men in New delhi, Accra, Bankok and Morroco etc , tiny Puerto Rico, which has clawed its way in 15 years to a nearly double standard of living, spoke an urgent message of hope through self help- and spoke it with the special clarity of a teacher who is only ten pages ahead of the class.
If you are a truly a descendent of Luis Munoz Marin or of any educated person, I will never, ever again, claim heritage to Puerto Rico. You are an embarrassment to all decent Puerto Ricans who will be regarded by some to be as ignorant and racist as you are. Having cultural or ethnic pride is a joy for people of all ethnicities but using that pride to disrespect and belittle another culture is shameful. You are a sad and ignorant person, please refrain from eliciting your nationality when referencing your illogical and hateful views, the Puerto Rican people cannot afford many more national embarrassments.
http://www.primerahora.com/notici....igros_en_recortar___gastos/261636
My sentiments exactly. Be gone.
This guy is the product of the 500 plus years of a colonialized mentality that unfortunately most Puerto Ricans suffer from.
He is most likely a "cubanitio" in disguise trying to create friction between us and our Puerto Rican brothers.
Learn about the DR and then come back to to us again at another time. Believe me once you really know us, you will have a total change of attitude. And remember be nice to the nerd, you might one day end up working for one or be nice to the MONO they might one day gang up on you when you are alone in the jungle. Japan was a backward country but later became a world power
DR can also be the next Japan.
Killumiat43.... Our community sucess doesn't depend on your opinion, so deal with it... nothing you say can altered that fact we have made lots of sucess at home and abroad, independently i might add.
P.S. I'd like to say that I am sorry, i didn't realize you were just some high school punk...
Anyway, I previously posted a few Puerto Rican jokes, just for the heck of it, but they were all deleted. I guess because it was considered insulting or discriminatory. But for some reason they did not delete Kullimati racial innuendos about Dominicans and I just wonder why? I think his insults were a lot worse and we know that Kuli was very serious about it. I personally was just having fun and meant no harm. I like Puerto Ricans and have nothing personally against them. I judge every person individually by their own merits and behavior not by a nationality or race. I only dislike those who try to humiliate and belittle me
American blacks make jokes about Caribbean blacks, Panamanians make jokes about Puerto Ricans, Columbians make jokes about Dominicans and so on and so forth. What does it matter, except for the time and effort that it takes to engage someone like Killuminait. He does well enough on his own to execrate himself with his crude and laughable rhetoric because anyone with a semblance of reason knows that he is an idiot. Unfortunately by engaging the idiot it brings you down as well, even though defending your virtues are a natural act of your consternation. One should not try to use extremism to battle extremism, which is why I found his insults of Dominicans just as insulting as your insults of Puerto Ricans. When one chooses to dance with the devil one must remember that the devil does not change, the devil changes you.
Dreadlocks, I really liked what you said It was not at all derogotory or offensive. I don't know why they took it out. See if can repeat it before they take it out again. I want to keep a copy of that comment.