PORT AU PRINCE.- A Dominican official asked the European Union and the Africa, the Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) countries to support joint project between Haiti and Dominican Republic to plant macadamia, aimed at creating more than 2,000 jobs and contribute to protect the environment.
Competitiveness Council (CNC) director Andres Vanderhorst, speaking in the conference “Challenges and opportunities competitiveness” as part of the 10th Caribbean Business Forum, said the project could make both countries America’s leaders in the production of that nut and its derivatives, and contribute to protect and recover the forests of Hispaniola island.
He noted that for a long time dozens of Dominican growers, grouped in the Macadamia Cluster, successfully cultivate the nut. “The raising and marketing of the macadamia nut has proven effective in contributing to lower poverty. Its environmental advantages include the conservation of soils and has the potential to transform Hispaniola Island’s elevated areas into rich farming and sustainable lands.”
Vanderhorst said the project aims to raise the capacity of some Dominican and Haitian organizations to promote agro-forestry’s economic benefits by optimizing the production and quality of macadamia and its derivatives.
Hispaniola has, according to some studies the official cited, the potential for large macadamia crops and noted that agro-forestry’s added value is its sustainable economic and environmental properties, “which in Haiti’s specific case, is extremely important.”
From: United States, Washington, D.C.
Cooperation... what a novel idea!
Written by: antonioj, 23 Oct 2009 12:05 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Perfect we need a little bit of good news after all.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
you can also grow Higher quality coffee in the shade of the Macadamia trees a category of coffee " Shade Grown " that recieves a higher price.....This is an all around success story
Written by: antonioj, 23 Oct 2009 12:21 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Fred, do you know alot about the jamaican coffee industry they apparently were able to create a niche high price market.
Written by: Atabey, 23 Oct 2009 12:57 PM
From: United States
Good news. Now let's expand the range of products and services.
From: Dominican Republic
I love macadamias.
From: United States
josean, vacanos and all the other apocalypse zombies will soon post their pessimistic loom and doom comments.
Written by: riosm, 23 Oct 2009 4:50 PM
From: United States
I can only hope this venture becomes successful. ALL CONERN WILL BENEFIT.
Written by: Pepe32, 23 Oct 2009 6:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Hate to nitpick and destroy the "happy place"
I like the idea of growing alternative plants but the Dominican Republic already grows Macademia,why do they have to bunch us together when the could just concentrate their efforts on Haiti which obviously needs it more.
Sorry ,I inherently mistrust any grouping of the 2 nations given the current climate and the trend by world powers to include DR in our neighbors plans.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Tonyj on the subject of Jamaican coffee you must be referring to the very famous and very expensive Blue Mountain coffee.....Mostly hype it was touted by Ian Flemings James Bond an has a long tradition which allows it to be sold for around 40 bucks a pound and that is a lot of money for coffee...the Japanese cant get enough or pay enough
Written by: Sajomero, 23 Oct 2009 8:03 PM
From: United States, Santiago de los Caballeros
The Japanase also love the coffee from Barahona. They even visit the farms to see it. If only there would be more organization in the coffee industry, we would be a force to recon with for all the varieties of coffees that can be grown in our country(entire island actually.)
Written by: riosm, 23 Oct 2009 8:52 PM
From: United States
Pepe32,
Good point.
I'll take Cafe Santo Domingo grown in Bani any Day over the Jamaican Blue Mountain. I have a bag at Home from last year [I think the packaging burlap, sealed in plastic] ungrounded beans which I'll dump soon. The poor uninformed Japanese just don't know better that's all.
I'll point blame at the Haitian Gov. for Haiti's economic problems.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
I wish them luck; however, personally, I dislike the macadamia nut and would never touch it.
Written by: dagtan, 23 Oct 2009 10:55 PM
From: United States
This is good, since it will serve as the foundation for trust. Nothing will happen until a system of trust is not develop and I am very happy to see the DR taking the first step. I am very happy about this and will support it 100%. Moreover, macadamias are freaking pricey here in the northeast, I guess because we do heck of a lot making out here.
As far as coffee, Blue Mountain is just lovely. If you go to Jamaica for vacation they have trips to the mountain and they show you the different blends and allow you to taste them as well.
I personally like Ethiopian coffee best, very strong, bien negro y fuerte.
Written by: Sajomero, 23 Oct 2009 11:32 PM
From: United States, Santiago de los Caballeros
glomarexplorer...did you know that the fatty acid profiles for macadamia nut oil is one of the healthiest?? Its very sought after especially after the famous Hampton's Diet book came out touting its benefits. The cosmetic industry is also consuming vast amounts of this precious oil. DR and Haiti would greatly benefit from concentrating their efforts on mass producing organic macadamia oil.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
so many coffee and food geeks I am impressed .....cafe Santo Domingo is pretty much Homogenized industrial mediocre coffee and is not held by coffee experts in very high esteem this can be said for most of the coffees you find in the supermercado in the DR ....Do not let your Nationalism get in the way of reality....All Caribbean island coffees have a great disadvantage over other nations coffees {HURRICANES} tend to set production back for years and the quality control in the DR also leaves a lot to be desired as the selection and roasting are extremely important ....Like wine to produce good coffee is an expensive investment and labor intensive and after Petroleum is the worlds most exported commodity.....Dominican coffee has a great future if properly developed and marketed........ it has a long way to go
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Blut,
I think you should put on your flak jacket, because I suppose they are all going to start shooting at you from all sides for possibly stating truth about Dominican coffee. They know it's true, but I suppose they don't like to hear it from non-natives.
It's good thing you can take it like a man, and then retaliate in kind and in rapid fire.
Written by: Sajomero, 24 Oct 2009 12:50 AM
From: United States, Santiago de los Caballeros
My dear Blutarsky...Cafe Santo Domingo is not the only coffee produced in the DR...There are many small brands coming up with good qualitiy coffee such as the one produced by Julia Alvarez' farm in Jarabacoa. My favorite is Montana Verde which is also an organic coffee from Jarabacoa. Nationalism isn't always our inspiration for liking things..Americans love McDonald's and nobody knocks them for eating that crap.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Sajomero my friend please nobody knocks McDonalds ? they just bulldoze them in France or hold large demonstrations of picketers against them but my thing is not McDonalds although I gloat when I read about them being installed in the Louvre.....My thing is the continuing improvement of the quality of Dominican Coffee. I first must say that a coffee culture does not yet exist in the DR it is jut another medio pollo or corto or cafe con leche and not much attention is payed to the methodology and and preparation this is not the case in Italy or Spain etc the baristas of these countries would be fired immediately if they dared serve the liquid slop that passes for espresso in this country......on the other hand the same can be said for Brazil and Colombia and most coffee producing countries . Puerto Rico and Jamaica recieve much higher prices than the DR because they have been able through rigid selection and good marketing promote their coffees at a much higher level .......continued
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
sajamero I am fully aware there are 27 I believe independent Roasters and exporters in the coffee association and not just the Behemoth that produces cafe Santo Domingo and hopefully they will improve the quality and image of DR coffee but presently in international circles of professional roasters and coffee cognoscenti the DR has a mediocre at best reputation and cannot at this time command very high prices but this is beginning to change. There is a dedicated group of people who as you so sagely mentioned are working to get the word out and improve the quality Julia Alvarez is a shining example and the owners of Montana Verde among others strive everyday to bring a higher quality product to the market place.....The consuming public has to overcome their sheep mentality and try well prepared, some of the excellent coffee that is available instead of continuing down the road of one monolithic brand .....because first you have to be able to recognize the quality difference
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
..Despite all of the things the Dominican Republic has going for it, the country’s coffee, which is often sold under the name Santo Domingo, has a mixed reputation.
“The not-so-nice reputation is that of a low-grade bean with some body, good for mixing of common coffees,” Eichner says. “More complimentary or discerning folks mention [the coffee’s] medium acidity, great aroma and full body with rich earthy tones.”
**** Excerpted from a Magazine called " ROAST " whos clients are coffee professionals
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Santo Domingo is categorized as Caribbean coffee along with Puerto Rican and Jamaican coffee. Typically, Puerto Rican and Jamaican coffees have a better reputation, but that may have more to do with processing than it does with coffee quality.
“It’s probably not due to the basic qualities of the coffees being different, but rather to the care given in processing for export,” says Eichner. “Without question, coffee has been badly handled in the Dominican Republic. Having a low spot on the market scale has perpetuated the lack of care in processing. A local monopoly................**** Excerpted from a Magazine called " ROAST " whos clients are coffee professionals
Written by: riosm, 24 Oct 2009 9:46 AM
From: United States
Blutarsky,
As far as taste......To each His own. With every visit to the DR I bring back at least 20 pounds for Family and Friends with the taste I remember as a Child. At least the money spent in the DR for Cafe Santo Domingo goes back into the DR's economy, besides my Grandfather and Father were Coffee and Tobacco growers. Our Family Coffee name used to be "La Tacita" and our Tobacco Family name was "Surtana" back in the late 1920's threw the late 50's before Trujillo screwed things up and the Family was forced out of the small business, My family prided its self with the natural home grown taste with nothing fancy.
I guess you can say I'm old fashion, as for Me I say...... Never mind the "STAR BUCKS" mentality.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
I personally used to buy my coffee from Casa Velasquez it was their roast they said and i liked it I also have purchased with visiting friends at Cafetera on the Conde for the show {please keep your thumb off the scale ha ha } .Now I buy my cafe and it is Fantastic at a place called West Indies Coffee on Las Mercedes between Merino and Isabela Catolica the owner is a roaster on premise and exports from the Free Zone all over the world his product shows great personal pride.....
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
riosm all the more reason to look into other small region specific non mass market Roasters with better selection and roasting techniques next time you are in the DR try this coffee and ask for the owner he will change your mind about coffee in less than one hour......and dont knock Starbucks they are mostly responsible for the coffee revolution taking place at this time there are thousands of Coffee businesses around the world mimicking there concept of selling coffees from different estates all over the world and making the customer pay attention to the dsifferences.....Speak to the other small roasters in your Town about carrying Boutique Dominican coffees from small producers not the industrial Monopoly that produces the largest brand it is a mediocrity
Written by: riosm, 24 Oct 2009 11:19 AM
From: United States
Blutarsky,
Thanks for the info. in my neck of the Southern California woods I prefer "Cafe Llave" espresso call me nostalgic but tastes a bit like cafe Santo Domingo too me . Just a reminder I grew up drinking coffee all my life in fact I'm tilting a cup right now.
What you say is true about the new "Coffee Revolution", but....To most Latin American Country's the Coffee drinking concept is nothing new.
My dear old Dad thinks Vanilla, Irish and assorted flavors as a cop-out to traditional Coffee drinkers and is shocked by the in His own words "ADDITIVES". I guess I'll be just like Him, it's safe to say old habits never change.
Take care.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
no civilized person could really enjoy these flavored things the same is true of those goofy flavored cigars what rubbish ...as far as you memories of drinking Santo Domingo brand coffee I will not stomp on them anymore ..yousay and I quote " .To most Latin American Country's the Coffee drinking concept is nothing new. " they still dont know how to make it properly....the Europeans invented the coffee culture Italy Austria etc Latin America was just became a cheap source .....If you go to Rio or Bogata they are just learning how to brew it properly and the DR is even worse.....no the goofy Barista culture invented in Italy and now running amuk in Seattle and Portland and the rest of the USA is how you get a great cup of coffee and it is gradually coming to a neighborhood in the DR just like fast food ....you can also make a great cup at home if you use a good drip system
Written by: Sajomero, 24 Oct 2009 3:53 PM
From: United States, Santiago de los Caballeros
Blut, you forgot to mention that maybe the reason why Jamaica and PR fetch a better price is also due to their small amount thats produced by them as opposed to DRs???This last year DRs coffee export was very large and will probably continue to grow. Granted its not a quality controlled bean, its just a volume bean.
Riosm...here is the link for the site where you can buy Julia Alvarez' organic coffee from Jarabacoa with a great social and environmental responsability..
http://www.greenmountaincoffee.comFrom: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
sajomero yes the amounts are less but the marketing and the quality control and selection allows for the higher prices ....maybe the DR needs a gimmick like the Kopi Luak coffee it sells for 350 US a pound ....now thats a scam.............. (thanks for the link
Written by: Sajomero, 24 Oct 2009 4:33 PM
From: United States, Santiago de los Caballeros
De nada Blut...I totally agree with your point about marketing..I know a family of growers from Barahona, their stuff is high end with great quality...They fetch a good price for theirs, but they should invest in a good marketing strategy to really showcase thier quality.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
for the DR in my opinion the best strategy is demonstrating to every tourist that comes to this Island that they should buy and continue to buy Dominican coffee when they get home ....airports and cruise ship docks should have specialty coffee boutiques that stress the regions and the quality of DR coffee and I dont mean mass market cafe Santo Domingo....that is not what will get us any blue ribbons
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
On this project in Haiti ....I can see it now ......" Grown in the shade of beautiful Macadamia trees VouDoo Blend coffee appealing to those who want to be kept awake like a zombie "....Now thats marketing
Written by: dagtan, 24 Oct 2009 5:22 PM
From: United States
Blu, inappropriate, but almost true on the advertising part. i am telling you I might fall for a cup of that thing on those nights that a project needs to be completed or that the ppt needs to be ready for the next day.
Anything to stay awake.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Dag,
I could empathize with you on the ".ppt" stuff. I used to be a research engineer, now ".ppt" is my life.
Written by: dagtan, 24 Oct 2009 7:14 PM
From: United States
Yeah, I have three different e-drives and I look like a geek with all those things hanging around my neck walking in school.
Written by: StanEarl, 25 Oct 2009 2:21 PM
From: United States
Blu I agree with your point, the island can produce great coffee, but the international market see it as inferior compare to the one produce by brasilian or colombia. But in reality it's almost the same if not better qualiy due to the high altitude. Remember we use to control that market. also a favorable place to grow grape for wine i think that something we should try
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Stanearl growing grapes for wine would be a huge ego trip and would cost a fortune .....but in the wine trade they ask how do you make a small fortune in the wine business ?? the answer .....Start with a large one.......No i cannot agree about the vineyards ....it would be an exercise in futility if you were planning any kind of commercial venture ....Chateau Chopo will not fly in the marketplace invest in other agricultural projects with a better return ......maybe asparagus Yum Yum or Hongos exoticos artichokes etc etc
I like the idea of growing alternative plants but the Dominican Republic already grows Macademia,why do they have to bunch us together when the could just concentrate their efforts on Haiti which obviously needs it more.
Sorry ,I inherently mistrust any grouping of the 2 nations given the current climate and the trend by world powers to include DR in our neighbors plans.
Good point.
I'll take Cafe Santo Domingo grown in Bani any Day over the Jamaican Blue Mountain. I have a bag at Home from last year [I think the packaging burlap, sealed in plastic] ungrounded beans which I'll dump soon. The poor uninformed Japanese just don't know better that's all.
I'll point blame at the Haitian Gov. for Haiti's economic problems.
As far as coffee, Blue Mountain is just lovely. If you go to Jamaica for vacation they have trips to the mountain and they show you the different blends and allow you to taste them as well.
I personally like Ethiopian coffee best, very strong, bien negro y fuerte.
I think you should put on your flak jacket, because I suppose they are all going to start shooting at you from all sides for possibly stating truth about Dominican coffee. They know it's true, but I suppose they don't like to hear it from non-natives.
It's good thing you can take it like a man, and then retaliate in kind and in rapid fire.
“The not-so-nice reputation is that of a low-grade bean with some body, good for mixing of common coffees,” Eichner says. “More complimentary or discerning folks mention [the coffee’s] medium acidity, great aroma and full body with rich earthy tones.”
**** Excerpted from a Magazine called " ROAST " whos clients are coffee professionals
“It’s probably not due to the basic qualities of the coffees being different, but rather to the care given in processing for export,” says Eichner. “Without question, coffee has been badly handled in the Dominican Republic. Having a low spot on the market scale has perpetuated the lack of care in processing. A local monopoly................**** Excerpted from a Magazine called " ROAST " whos clients are coffee professionals
As far as taste......To each His own. With every visit to the DR I bring back at least 20 pounds for Family and Friends with the taste I remember as a Child. At least the money spent in the DR for Cafe Santo Domingo goes back into the DR's economy, besides my Grandfather and Father were Coffee and Tobacco growers. Our Family Coffee name used to be "La Tacita" and our Tobacco Family name was "Surtana" back in the late 1920's threw the late 50's before Trujillo screwed things up and the Family was forced out of the small business, My family prided its self with the natural home grown taste with nothing fancy.
I guess you can say I'm old fashion, as for Me I say...... Never mind the "STAR BUCKS" mentality.
Thanks for the info. in my neck of the Southern California woods I prefer "Cafe Llave" espresso call me nostalgic but tastes a bit like cafe Santo Domingo too me . Just a reminder I grew up drinking coffee all my life in fact I'm tilting a cup right now.
What you say is true about the new "Coffee Revolution", but....To most Latin American Country's the Coffee drinking concept is nothing new.
My dear old Dad thinks Vanilla, Irish and assorted flavors as a cop-out to traditional Coffee drinkers and is shocked by the in His own words "ADDITIVES". I guess I'll be just like Him, it's safe to say old habits never change.
Take care.
Riosm...here is the link for the site where you can buy Julia Alvarez' organic coffee from Jarabacoa with a great social and environmental responsability..
http://www.greenmountaincoffee.com
Anything to stay awake.
I could empathize with you on the ".ppt" stuff. I used to be a research engineer, now ".ppt" is my life.