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SANTIAGO.- The route of the Santo Domingo-Santiago freight train, whose construction president Leonel Fernandez announced in September last year, will be presented November 25  in Santiago.

Transport Reform Office (Opret) spokesman Leonel Carrasco will present the project, said Dominican Engineers, Architects and Surveyors Guild (Codia) north region president Silvio Durán, in a press conference.

He said Carrasco will explain the reaches of the railway system. The Haina-Santiago freight and passengers train will span 125 kilometers with stations in the subdivision Los Alcarrizos, and the central towns Villa Altagracia, Bonao and La Vega. It’s estimated that it can ply the entire route in 30 minutes.

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Written by: Blutarsky, 11 Nov 2009 8:30 AM
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
All Aboard !......................Josean will be serving cocktails in the club car....Have your tickets ready
Written by: time2rize, 11 Nov 2009 8:33 AM
From: Dominican Republic
The route of the Santo Domingo-Santiago freight train, whose construction president Leonel Fernandez announced in September last year, will be presented November 25 in Santiago.

that it can ply the entire route in 30 minutes.
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Now thats what im talking about. Should have done this first.Lets not forget POP after.
Written by: telemeco, 11 Nov 2009 9:06 AM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey

Es palante que vamo, My DR is become a european country,,,take the train everywhere, Josean,,,,you can be a conductor
Written by: abc200, 11 Nov 2009 9:11 AM
From: United Kingdom
The train just keeps on rolling. Rail is far more effiicent at moving both freight and passengers than road transport where there is good demand. Also less pollution and less need to import fuel.
S.
Written by: time2rize, 11 Nov 2009 9:27 AM
From: Dominican Republic
The train just keeps on rolling. Rail is far more effiicent at moving both freight and passengers than road transport where there is good demand. Also less pollution and less need to import fuel.
S.
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Well im not sure about less pollution, since the Plantas that provides Electricity run on Diesel.
It will be good to Find a Green Clean Alternative way to provide Electricity, if that's possible.
Written by: msjersey, 11 Nov 2009 10:00 AM
From: United States, New Jersey(Cibaeno/Los mina)
tele,

to dumb to be a conductor.
Written by: abc200, 11 Nov 2009 10:03 AM
From: United Kingdom
The overall efficiency per ton mile is much higher with trains than with trucks. Also trucks produce local pollution that is difficult to control!
S.
Written by: snoopyy3k, 11 Nov 2009 10:42 AM
From: United States
YEAH!!! ACELA goes to DR.
Written by: DomLon, 11 Nov 2009 10:59 AM
From: United Kingdom
Question - If a rail line is 125 kilometers long and a train can complete the full journey in 30 minutes what is the train's speed?

Does the 30 minutes include time at stations?

I hope they have good safety measures planned.
Written by: xwill7, 11 Nov 2009 11:25 AM
From: United States, Chicago
30 Dominican minutes
Written by: MalditoGringo, 11 Nov 2009 11:28 AM
From: Dominican Republic
ha ha ha ho ho ho je je je....this is some of the funniest $hi7 I have read over and over again year after year....ja ja ja
Written by: xwill7, 11 Nov 2009 11:37 AM
From: United States, Chicago
who is going to make sure that the tracks are not stolen? abc?
Written by: old_school_trinitario, 11 Nov 2009 12:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Dando pela en las 5 esquinas

Is the train going to stop en Plaza Jacaranda or La Posada Cibaeña?

these are important questions we as dominicans need to ask the government, is there going to be a steady flow of fritura in the train while you ride a resaca from Santiago to Santo domingo.

can you drink presidente inside the train ?

i need answers
Written by: time2rize, 11 Nov 2009 12:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic

Is the train going to stop en Plaza Jacaranda or La Posada Cibaeña?

these are important questions we as dominicans need to ask the government, is there going to be a steady flow of fritura in the train while you ride a resaca from Santiago to Santo domingo.
can you drink presidente inside the train ?

i need answers
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If So the Next question will be if there will be Barf Bags.
Written by: jonbonz, 11 Nov 2009 12:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
can I rent out the private club car with pole dancers
Written by: xwill7, 11 Nov 2009 12:46 PM
From: United States, Chicago
fritura on the train is not a good idea. A lady opened up a plate of Dominican food on a plane once and the smell is bad after a while. Beers will get on board we all know that. A trip from Santiago to SD you can arrive buzzed.
I like the pole dancer idea.lol
Written by: hellborn25, 11 Nov 2009 12:50 PM
From: United States
Im waiting on the ghetto dominicans to get on the trains , and ruin the trains with graffiti and loud rap music and reggaton and I bet there will be alot of robberies in this trains
Written by: xwill7, 11 Nov 2009 1:06 PM
From: United States, Chicago
will there be security on the trains?
Written by: abc200, 11 Nov 2009 1:39 PM
From: United Kingdom
An international coach could offer fine beers as appertifs and a lighter menu . I used to enjoy Leffe beer on the train from Brussels to Paris. iTQI gives Leffe beers top scores:
2009/06/01 - Once again, Leffe has been awarded by the International Taste & Quality Institute (iTQi). Leffe Blond, Leffe Triple and Leffe 9° received 3 stars in the Superior Taste Award. This is the maximum score and stands for ‘Exceptional products with more than 90% of the overall score’.S.
Written by: walnut, 11 Nov 2009 1:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
abc200....
I howled with laughter when I read "appertifs and a lighter menu".
What about afternoon tea and crumpets, too?
Written by: old_school_trinitario, 11 Nov 2009 1:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Dando pela en las 5 esquinas

CMC

abc200

I'm pretty sure you could get some chicharron-light served on a bed of lechuga for all of you fine travelers.

Written by: Atabey, 11 Nov 2009 2:04 PM
From: United States
Good news. How about adding a light-rail trolley transportation for the Capital- would eliminate all those dingy alternatives on the road today.
Written by: xwill7, 11 Nov 2009 2:07 PM
From: United States, Chicago
abc,
you can have some empanadas and a presidente wrapped with a napkin
Written by: Sajomero, 11 Nov 2009 4:24 PM
From: United States, NYC........Bajando roooomo
hellborn25,
It's obvious that you have never traveled on the Metro or Caribe Tours buses. They are confortable, quiet and safe. So why must you assume that this train will be a dump??
Written by: xwill7, 11 Nov 2009 5:28 PM
From: United States, Chicago
josean se va dar un jumo hoy. He will be turning in bed not able to sleep with the 2nd train line in his head
Written by: Pepe32, 11 Nov 2009 5:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The route of the Santo Domingo-Santiago freight train, whose construction president Leonel Fernandez announced in September last year, will be presented November 25 in Santiago.

that it can ply the entire route in 30 minutes.
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Now thats what im talking about. Should have done this first.Lets not forget POP after.

Agreed ,should have done this first,also the next line should go from Santiago to the East (Samaná and Punta Cana)
Written by: lovingit, 11 Nov 2009 7:09 PM
From: United States, Delaware
Heck, modernize and industrialize

North West Line
1. Build a line that from Santiago to POP
2. From POP, go East To Samana (maybe unless there is a good highway)
3. From POP, Go West Monte Cristi
4. From Monte Crisiti continue West to Cap-Haitien.
5. From Cap-Haitien continue West and build a 60 Mile under Water Tunnel to connect to Cuba and into Guantanamo.
6. From Guantano to Santiago de Cuba
7. From there Continue West, with various stations until reaching La Habana

South East Line
1. Santo Domingo to with various stations until reaching Punta Cana
2. Another 60 mile or so tunnel that connects to Aguadilla or Mayaguez,Puerto Rico on the East, perhaps a special permit to a rest stop on Isla Mona (which by the way, should belong to DR and not Puerto Rico)
3. From Mayaguez/Aguadilla various stops until reaching San Juan

South West Line
1. From Santo Domingo, go West with various stops towards Barahona and into Port-Au-Prince
Written by: lovingit, 11 Nov 2009 7:09 PM
From: United States, Delaware
cont...

Haitian goverment should be able to make their subsequent connections, like Port-Aut-Prince to Cap-Haitien or others.

Puerto Rican goverment should be able to make similar connections, San Juan to Ponce, etc, etc.


This will help trade overall between these nations
Written by: telemeco, 11 Nov 2009 7:15 PM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey
Lovingit

That will never happen,,,could you imagine the island will be emty,,,everybody will evacuate DR and Haiti,,,into Cuba and Puerto Rico,

it is a good idea, you know what,,,have one build from Havana into Pinar del Rio and from there a tunnel into Cancun,,,,i need a vacation ALL ONBOARD THE TRAN-ANTILLAS LINES
Written by: lovingit, 11 Nov 2009 7:20 PM
From: United States, Delaware
tele,

Train stops that connect nations would need some immigration control as good as or better than airports. That will keep people where they need to be. As for The island getting empty? I see the desire for people to go to Puerto Rico but Cuba? you can't be serious, what Dominican in their right mind would go to Cuba to live as a Cuban national. Dominicans that go to Cuba for studying or temp work lead a VERY different life from those of actual Cubans, so don't let those people give you the wrong info. I could see Haitians trying to go to Cuba since anything is better than Haiti as this point.

As for "Lovingirl" its "Lovingit" and I am NO GIRL
Written by: telemeco, 11 Nov 2009 7:32 PM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey
Haitian,,,going to Cuba
Written by: Sajomero, 11 Nov 2009 7:35 PM
From: United States, NYC........Bajando roooomo
Lovi,
Do you know that the Mona passage is one of the deepest in the world?? The construction cost for any such connection would be astronomical. The ferry service does a pretty good job at transporting people and goods. Cuba is already connected by rail service from Havana to Santiago. Our country used to be cris-crossed by railroads until Trujillo decided to put the country back on donkeys and carts.
Written by: Pepe32, 11 Nov 2009 7:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic
North West Line
1. Build a line that from Santiago to POP
2. From POP, go East To Samana (maybe unless there is a good highway)
3. From POP, Go West Monte Cristi
4. From Monte Crisiti continue West to Cap-Haitien.
5. From Cap-Haitien continue West and build a 60 Mile under Water Tunnel to connect to Cuba and into Guantanamo.
6. From Guantano to Santiago de Cuba
7. From there Continue West, with various stations until reaching La Habana
8.Key West
9 Miami
Written by: telemeco, 11 Nov 2009 8:24 PM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey

Pepe32

dont forget the line to CANCUN,,,we need a conection to the continent,,to bring cost of shipping down
Written by: Escott, 11 Nov 2009 10:19 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
Now if you guys only shared your drugs...
Written by: glomarexplorer, 11 Nov 2009 10:24 PM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Finally,

A sensible Dominican initiative when it comes to transportation.

Forget the much-maligned METRO, this rail system is precisely what DR needs to logically meet its developmental needs in all areas.

As I have stated several times before on this issue, Santiago would be a natural hub, with spoke routes emanating from it to such points as : Puerto Plata; Samana; Monte Cristi; Barahona; Santo Domingo; La Romana-Higuey; Etc. This would make great sense, and help promote both industry and tourism.

We must worry about the laws of unintended consequences, however, because it could change both our lives and landscape forever.

Written by: Escott, 12 Nov 2009 12:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
Now if you guys only shared your drugs...
Written by: canadafriend, 12 Nov 2009 2:32 AM
From: Canada
Oops! In the many many trips to DR, I had never noticed nor even asked... Are there no trains in the DR???
Well, could be a good project... They probably got a good deal with the same co. as for the famous metro (ha! ha!)... Good until a landslide half way to Santiago... Good until people steal parts of the rails... Sorry but this is too often the situation!
Solar energy! BS! A few years ago, MANY schools received solar panels (for comput., tools, etc...). It was a big project financed by European countries for education. It didn't take long that those panels were broken by stones or stolen. End of project.
Written by: lovingit, 12 Nov 2009 3:47 PM
From: United States, Delaware
canadafriend

Like Sajomero said,

There used to be trains in DR, just that as time passed, they broke down, rails did not get the maintenance required, and then, they were just forgotten. The only trains used nowadays are for sugar plantation.

In my distant childhood memory, I remember a traveling with the family and we stopped at the rail-road tracks because a train was passing by that was packed like sardines with passengers. This was the first, and last time I saw a passenger train in the DR. This was sometime in 1982 or 1983.
Written by: PepeLopez, 13 Nov 2009 12:07 AM
From: United States
How will this cost? Remember the Metro!!!! It cost more money to maintain it then it generates...
Written by: Blutarsky, 13 Nov 2009 12:12 AM
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Coco lopez do not concern yourself with these matters .....just get to work and pay your taxes
Written by: canadafriend, 13 Nov 2009 12:56 AM
From: Canada
Thank you for the information lovingit!
Written by: Sajomero, 13 Nov 2009 6:33 PM
From: United States, NYC........Bajando roooomo
For those of you who don't know how vindictive Trujillo was, let me tell you a little story. The port of Puerto Plata was a thriving port for a very long time. Puerto Plata's society was very educated, wealthy and exclusive. Trujillo was never accepted by them, so to cripple their source of pride and wealth he dismanteled its railroad. This railroad started right at the port and went straight to Santiago, the main station is still there for visitors to see. Along the current road you can still see some of the supports along the rivers near Imbert.
Written by: Trujillo, 13 Nov 2009 11:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic
For all those who don't know, Trujillo nationalized the Ferrocarril Central Dominicano and THAT'S what ruined it.
Written by: Trujillo, 14 Nov 2009 12:06 AM
From: Dominican Republic
hellborn25, you're insignificant here. Go play with the rest of your inbred brothers.
Written by: glomarexplorer, 14 Nov 2009 7:28 PM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Let's hear it for Puerto Platenos!
Written by: abc200, 15 Nov 2009 12:10 PM
From: United Kingdom
When the new line is finished it needs to be nationalized. UK is re-nationalizing railways. However the actual running ot the operation should be at arms length from the government. This having been said expect free seats to go to big rallies in SD.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8360527.stm
S.
Written by: Blutarsky, 15 Nov 2009 4:29 PM
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
you cretin you wont be seeing anything Nationalized in UK the Tories are coming back with a vengeance ...It would be best if you never return there is no place for losers like you in the UK of the future.......Ein Volk, ein Reich,nein Schwein — "One People, One Nation, No ABC". ...
Written by: abc200, 15 Nov 2009 7:52 PM
From: United Kingdom
The re-nationalization is complete - first trains have run.... Privatization was a disaster. SNCF in France is nationalized and is a success! German railways are a success and nationalized.
Tories Criminals McMillan ,Heath, Thatcher torpedoed the UK economy causing endless misery and delivered state assets to crooks and shysters. This 5th. Column in the UK left the UK in a terrible position of important assets being in speculators hands.
So be sensible Blut if possible.....
Trujillo was criminal but private enterprise could more likely have ruined this system,
S.
Written by: DomLon, 26 Nov 2009 6:14 AM
From: United Kingdom
"The route of the Santo Domingo-Santiago freight train, whose construction president Leonel Fernandez announced in September last year, will be presented November 25 in Santiago."

Any news of what happened - or as it been delaid due to palms on the line.
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