Asia's first tidal power plant being built near Jindo, South Korea, with KDI funding.
Santo Domingo.- South Korea will help fund the improvement of Dominican Republic’s historically deficient electrical sector, with several agreement signed this week, including a memorandum of understanding to conduct a study to solve the energy problems.
A Dominican delegation headed by State-owned Electrical Companies (CDEEE) vice president Celso Marranzini, Export and Investment Center (CEI-RD) director Eddy Martinez and Dominican ambassador in South Korea Héctor Galvan are in South Korea to advance the agreements.
Marranzini, in a phone interview on the Colorvision program Hoy Mismo, said more details on the plans to improve the electrical sector will be disclosed next week and a South Korean delegation will arrive in the country within one month to evaluate a project which includes all areas. “It’s a step forward to solve the electrical energy crisis.”
Martinez, after the delegation visited the Korean Development Institute (KDI) said that entity pledged its support and financing for exporters of the country’s northern Cibao region, with programs for those companies to improve their quality.
He added that several delegations from South Korea’s Business Federation and Importers Association will visit the country next year, to negotiate contracts for all types of goods with the Dominican Republic.
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The only reason the energy issue has been a long time problem is because the people in charge of the RD Gov are corrupt idiots!
Some solutions are as follows:
1. Outsource 2 Nuclear Power Plants (controlled buy outsiders 100% - US, Korea)
2. Create a National Rail System (connection all north/south Ports & key cities)
a. eliminate old bus network of gas guzzlers (oil dependency)
b. move both people & goods cheaper faster, creating new jobs
3. Use tropics to grown sugar cane for E85 fuel & bio-diesel (like Brazil)
4. Explore for Natural Gas (mandate use more for cars)
5. Create a National Pipeline (along side the National Rail route)
6. Put a solar farm in the Ocean (use the sunshine)
7. Put wind farms on the North Coast
8. Learn to Re-cycle (burn leftover trash & food with coal for cheaper electric)
9. Sell excess Power to (Cuba, Haiti etc)
The RD could actually export energy like Brazil. But again, "corrupt" idiots are in control.
From: Dominican Republic
5. Create a National Pipeline (along side the National Rail route).
WONT THIS BE A HAZARD (Such as Electrical circuits being to close to Petroleum)?
From: Dominican Republic
A. eliminate old bus network of gas guzzlers (oil dependency). DO WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE BUSES THEMSELES? Or, can we not just alternate their gas tanks to be able to use more environmentally-friendly natural alternative gas?
From: Dominican Republic
9. Sell excess Power to (Cuba, Haiti etc) I like this, but what initiatives is Haiti taking to be able to afford this? Is beyond me.
From: Dominican Republic
8. Learn to Re-cycle (burn leftover trash & food with coal for cheaper electric)
GOOD IDEAD.. But but by saying coal, what kind? Wont this pose an ecosystem which will encourage burning of trees as is a major problem already on the island, primarily Haiti? By the way, I hear trash makes great biofuel coal as well. What do you think?
From: Dominican Republic
BUT LASTLY as you have mentioned and best put it... The RD "Corrupt" elite idiots are in control and just Constitutionally amended a means to stay in power longer which will commence to be effective soon this coming DECEMBER.
I encourage you, that you really should start a thread on that in the forum regarding those premises namely above which you have for solutions. See if others will contribute other ideas which could embellish and strengthen your position. As you may also take intakes as to where there may be weaknesses given their opinions to perhaps be aware of that which will once again help to better support your stance thoroughly to say the least.
From: United States
apocalypse zombies
nay sayers
pessimistic idiots
GIVE THE GOVERNMENT A BREAK !!!!!!
Give Leonel a break !!!!
Written by: Belly, 13 Nov 2009 12:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
JD_Dominguez
Here is my list
1 - Build 2 OTEC Plants in the north coast - Will also create potable clean water
2 - Re-Activate the old Rail systems since gov. still owns the land there and would be cheaper
3 - Eliminate 3 to 8 because it won't be needed and recycling is 3 times more expensive than landfills - check out the report from Competitive Enterprise, New York loses 40 million in that dumb idea of recycle yearly.
4 - Sale power to Haiti but to Cuba i just don't see it happening but is worth a try.
Written by: Belly, 13 Nov 2009 12:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
Here is a great book i really recommend to everybody looking for real solutions to DR and it makes it simple to just learn from other countries mistake instead of making them again. PM Me i will give you the link to this book PDF file.
"Beyond economic growth."
Written by: juanb, 13 Nov 2009 1:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Give Leonel a break? Whatever little credibility you may have had just went down the crapper. I voted for this bum and it was one of the biggest mistakes I ever made. I should not have voted at all because the alternative (Vargas) will soon have the opportunity to show us what really horrible governance looks like.
Give the government a break? They have been on a lunch break from their first day in office. They are a bunch of overpaid, nonproductive, nepotic bums.
How about if this band of thieves give the Pueblo a break?
Written by: Belly, 13 Nov 2009 1:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
JuanB
Who do you think could do a better job than Leonel in our political environment and take into consideration that corruption has been going on here for the whole history of the island. I would love to hear your choice and hope it matches mine too?
Written by: vacanos, 13 Nov 2009 3:43 PM
From: United States
This is a great news for our country that S. Korea is going to help fund this project. Very classy on their part. I was stationed in S. Korea, 2-ID they really take pride in their country. Every S.Korean no matter the high position of the family or if the person studying oversea they all have to come back to work two year for their country basically for free either in the Army, govt, community, ect.
Written by: yowzerDR, 13 Nov 2009 3:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic
1. Outsource 2 Nuclear Power Plants (controlled buy outsiders 100% - US, Korea)
Problems:
a) Generates evil Waste
b) Is very expensive to operate
c) Is not entirely GHGs-free
d) Accidents and terrorism
e) Deters us from realistic, affordable alternatives like this tidal power plant
Free ourselves of fossil fuels forever, not just to be clean, but economically wealthy :)
Electric trains, cars, homes all with next to free energy....
New career paths, higher education, better life style...
Written by: telemeco, 13 Nov 2009 4:48 PM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey
nevermind the terrorist in a DR nuclear plant,,,imagine what could happen,,,
first the engineer that will run the places,,have be top of the line,,i mean, you didnt pay the teacher to past your test or gave some pleasure favor to the maestro, and i dont mean an apples
second: the director of the plant, will star hiring they cousing, pop, mom,neighbord and lover to operated a NUCLEAR PLANT.
As far as getting rid of the waste,,,,,,,,you think haiti will take it,,if we ask please with sugar on top and i am not deporting more haitian?
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
vacanos ,,nice to have a positive comment here and I agree with you ..South Korea is quite a role model for economic developing countries and they are wondrefully nice people . The new chief of the electrical industry in the DR appears to be doing a very good job and for all Leonel's faults ,he has deveoped great contacts overseas.
The transport sector is also great in Korea and perhaps the only thing that I did not like was the huge power lines that criss cross the country and the monotonous architecture that has been used in the huge and very numerous apartment blocks .
But I cannot think of a better country to have assisting us than South Korea
Written by: Pixeles, 13 Nov 2009 7:47 PM
From: United States, Hackensack, NJ
The ONLY way this would work is if you take ALL politics in RD and drop them in the middle of the ocean and start anew.
This is just another project for the big wigs thieves in DR to steal even more $$$. The worst part is that the people is the only one being F'd all along, because in the end there will be no power and we still have to pay Korea their money.
@Pixeles
http://MiBahaia.netFrom: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
I see Korea and DR as a marriage of convenience, as government officials and private industry leaders are fairly corrupt.
This is reason why "abc" should be banned from site. Certainly, the evolution of the story wreaks of his influence.
abc, please chime in and cheer them on!
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
I can assure you that in Korea neither the government nor private industry leaders are corrupt ..in fact there is total transperency in all dealings. It is a country that prides itself on being straightforward honest and very hard working ..the population is a very young one as the Korean war caused devestating social and visual disasters.. South Korea may not be the most beautiful country but it has developed a wonderful reputation and it is always a pleasue to visit there, do business with koreans and to fly Asianana Airlines
Written by: Atabey, 14 Nov 2009 10:38 AM
From: United States
This is a good combination for the DR. Back in the early 1990s I was taking a course and my professor was Korean. He had just visited DR and was perplexed: on the one hand, he saw so much potential and beauty; and on the other hand, he saw so much mismanagement and waste. He asked me why? I told him, it's our history. But perhaps things will change before it's too late.
The South Koreans are a nation of doers and they have built an impressive industrial and technological nation in 50 years time. There is much to learn and copy from their experience; especially in energy, industrial expansion and eduaction. If the South Koreans are allowed to design and implement their measures for DR's energy sector, the energy problems will finally end. Let's hope the corrupting influences are finally defeated. All our national goals depends on the Koreans being successful since energy is the lifeblood of modernization.
Written by: CaptRob, 14 Nov 2009 2:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
You want to change the politics here. I have a good one. I tell all my Dominican friends durning and, after many passionate, heated debates. Vota GRINGO. I tell them imagine me on Billboards all over the country with a Machete in my hand. Saying slash or cut out the corruption !!! VOTA GRINGO.
They just laugh and start chanting si, si , si VOTA GRINGO.
It is to funny.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
From: United States, La Hermandad
I reallly do understand WHY DR DOES NOT FOLLOW BRAZIL'S ETHANOL PRODUCTION MODEL. Whay can we buy the machines that turns sugar cane into fuel from Brazil?????
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Popon,
Ethanol won't work in DR for various reasons:
1) Present fleet couldn't run on 100 % ethanol without engine and fuel tank and lines damage, or anything above 15 % level.
2) It costs more than $1.00 to get $1.00 worth of ethanol
3) Compared to the required investment, DR's fleet is insignificant to justify it.
4) Ethanol would require use of arable land to produce sugar cane, land that would not be available for food production and would render DR commensurably more dependent on foreign imports to feed itself.
5) CNG is a cheaper (~50 %), cleaner fuel that could also be produced from garbage; and present fleet could easily be converted, with investment recovery within three years.
6) If you use present sugar cane yield to produce ethanol, then DR would lose whatever export income it enjoys from same.
Switch to ethanol is not sensible for DR.
Josean, please forgive me, but public transportation [METRO] and long-distance train system makes more sense.
From: United States, La Hermandad
Glomarexplorer,
that makes sense, but at the same time we have a vast land in thef south west that could be used for that.
I do agree that using garbage to make fuel is the best way to go for DR. Just imagine how clean the whole country could be.
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
The Samsung episode is exactly what I mean when I say that Korea does not tolerate any illegal conduct and although the Samsung matter related to share exchanges ,,it was judged to be illegal and the Chairman apologised and resigned .That country has come so far so quickly that it is a joy to see and the country deserves to grow even better .
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
There will always be people who try to play close to the wind in all countries ..but unlike the latin countries where corruption has been endemic for so many years and so difficult to reign in ,,there are countries such as Thailand,India, Thailand,South Korea,Ghana and even Indonesia that have changed the traditional bad ways .
Written by: Atabey, 15 Nov 2009 2:55 PM
From: United States
No way Nuclear power in the DR. Haiti, on the other hand, should be considered as a site, given the options available to her. France should, at least, financed a third-generation EPR reactors, this development as a token of her historical responsibility for having created and enriched itself from her former colony. An electrical power output of 1650 MWe with thermal power 4500 MWt should solve Haiti's energy needs for many years to come. Ten year project. As this future site would be downwind from the DR little to no harm will DR face. Situated along either the Fond Merle or on the island La Cayenne and cable energy into the mainland.
From: United States, La Hermandad
Nuclear plant in a third world country, a tropical land with hurricanes, tropical storms that produce mud slides, and constant earth tremor? Just remember Chernobyl, the Russian power plant catastrophe?
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Popon,
Pound some sense into these individuals!
We are dealing with deep corruption and great ineptitude here-not exactly a good hand to play.
Nuclear power is for developed nations and the big boys, not 3rd world countries, who've demonstrated incapable to even manage coal-fired power plants.
There are various other technologies more appropriate for DR and similar, including: wind power; solar power; wave motion power; geothermal; conventional fossil fuels; etc.
Written by: Atabey, 15 Nov 2009 10:40 PM
From: United States
glomarexplorer,
No one said that Haiti or any other third world nation would be managing or even deeply involved in the nuclear option. At present Haiti, for example, has 1-2% of forested area. Much of this damage being fueled by demand for wood. Not substainable and we in the DR are paying the price(in lost forest and violence and corruption) for their lack of management. While the investment is huge, look at the alternatives. Perhaps a ten year program with French expertise and First world financing/grants can pull Haiti out of its untainable energy position.
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Some solutions are as follows:
1. Outsource 2 Nuclear Power Plants (controlled buy outsiders 100% - US, Korea)
2. Create a National Rail System (connection all north/south Ports & key cities)
a. eliminate old bus network of gas guzzlers (oil dependency)
b. move both people & goods cheaper faster, creating new jobs
3. Use tropics to grown sugar cane for E85 fuel & bio-diesel (like Brazil)
4. Explore for Natural Gas (mandate use more for cars)
5. Create a National Pipeline (along side the National Rail route)
6. Put a solar farm in the Ocean (use the sunshine)
7. Put wind farms on the North Coast
8. Learn to Re-cycle (burn leftover trash & food with coal for cheaper electric)
9. Sell excess Power to (Cuba, Haiti etc)
The RD could actually export energy like Brazil. But again, "corrupt" idiots are in control.
WONT THIS BE A HAZARD (Such as Electrical circuits being to close to Petroleum)?
A. eliminate old bus network of gas guzzlers (oil dependency). DO WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE BUSES THEMSELES? Or, can we not just alternate their gas tanks to be able to use more environmentally-friendly natural alternative gas?
9. Sell excess Power to (Cuba, Haiti etc) I like this, but what initiatives is Haiti taking to be able to afford this? Is beyond me.
GOOD IDEAD.. But but by saying coal, what kind? Wont this pose an ecosystem which will encourage burning of trees as is a major problem already on the island, primarily Haiti? By the way, I hear trash makes great biofuel coal as well. What do you think?
BUT LASTLY as you have mentioned and best put it... The RD "Corrupt" elite idiots are in control and just Constitutionally amended a means to stay in power longer which will commence to be effective soon this coming DECEMBER.
I encourage you, that you really should start a thread on that in the forum regarding those premises namely above which you have for solutions. See if others will contribute other ideas which could embellish and strengthen your position. As you may also take intakes as to where there may be weaknesses given their opinions to perhaps be aware of that which will once again help to better support your stance thoroughly to say the least.
nay sayers
pessimistic idiots
GIVE THE GOVERNMENT A BREAK !!!!!!
Give Leonel a break !!!!
Here is my list
1 - Build 2 OTEC Plants in the north coast - Will also create potable clean water
2 - Re-Activate the old Rail systems since gov. still owns the land there and would be cheaper
3 - Eliminate 3 to 8 because it won't be needed and recycling is 3 times more expensive than landfills - check out the report from Competitive Enterprise, New York loses 40 million in that dumb idea of recycle yearly.
4 - Sale power to Haiti but to Cuba i just don't see it happening but is worth a try.
"Beyond economic growth."
Give the government a break? They have been on a lunch break from their first day in office. They are a bunch of overpaid, nonproductive, nepotic bums.
How about if this band of thieves give the Pueblo a break?
Who do you think could do a better job than Leonel in our political environment and take into consideration that corruption has been going on here for the whole history of the island. I would love to hear your choice and hope it matches mine too?
Problems:
a) Generates evil Waste
b) Is very expensive to operate
c) Is not entirely GHGs-free
d) Accidents and terrorism
e) Deters us from realistic, affordable alternatives like this tidal power plant
Free ourselves of fossil fuels forever, not just to be clean, but economically wealthy :)
Electric trains, cars, homes all with next to free energy....
New career paths, higher education, better life style...
nevermind the terrorist in a DR nuclear plant,,,imagine what could happen,,,
first the engineer that will run the places,,have be top of the line,,i mean, you didnt pay the teacher to past your test or gave some pleasure favor to the maestro, and i dont mean an apples
second: the director of the plant, will star hiring they cousing, pop, mom,neighbord and lover to operated a NUCLEAR PLANT.
As far as getting rid of the waste,,,,,,,,you think haiti will take it,,if we ask please with sugar on top and i am not deporting more haitian?
The transport sector is also great in Korea and perhaps the only thing that I did not like was the huge power lines that criss cross the country and the monotonous architecture that has been used in the huge and very numerous apartment blocks .
But I cannot think of a better country to have assisting us than South Korea
This is just another project for the big wigs thieves in DR to steal even more $$$. The worst part is that the people is the only one being F'd all along, because in the end there will be no power and we still have to pay Korea their money.
@Pixeles
http://MiBahaia.net
This is reason why "abc" should be banned from site. Certainly, the evolution of the story wreaks of his influence.
abc, please chime in and cheer them on!
The South Koreans are a nation of doers and they have built an impressive industrial and technological nation in 50 years time. There is much to learn and copy from their experience; especially in energy, industrial expansion and eduaction. If the South Koreans are allowed to design and implement their measures for DR's energy sector, the energy problems will finally end. Let's hope the corrupting influences are finally defeated. All our national goals depends on the Koreans being successful since energy is the lifeblood of modernization.
They just laugh and start chanting si, si , si VOTA GRINGO.
It is to funny.
Ricardolito,
Respectfully, you cannot be serious with your above comment on transparency and lack of corruption in Korea.
Do you remember names such as: Tungsen Park; Samsung Corporation; etc?
Please follow some of links below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/world/asia/06korea.html; http://irps.ucsd.edu/assets/003/5292.pdf; http://www.abc.net.au/correspondents/content/2006/s1642879.htm; http://www.einnews.com/southkorea/newsfeed-south-korea-corruption;
Corrupption in Korea is akin to a way of life.
Ethanol won't work in DR for various reasons:
1) Present fleet couldn't run on 100 % ethanol without engine and fuel tank and lines damage, or anything above 15 % level.
2) It costs more than $1.00 to get $1.00 worth of ethanol
3) Compared to the required investment, DR's fleet is insignificant to justify it.
4) Ethanol would require use of arable land to produce sugar cane, land that would not be available for food production and would render DR commensurably more dependent on foreign imports to feed itself.
5) CNG is a cheaper (~50 %), cleaner fuel that could also be produced from garbage; and present fleet could easily be converted, with investment recovery within three years.
6) If you use present sugar cane yield to produce ethanol, then DR would lose whatever export income it enjoys from same.
Switch to ethanol is not sensible for DR.
Josean, please forgive me, but public transportation [METRO] and long-distance train system makes more sense.
that makes sense, but at the same time we have a vast land in thef south west that could be used for that.
I do agree that using garbage to make fuel is the best way to go for DR. Just imagine how clean the whole country could be.
Pound some sense into these individuals!
We are dealing with deep corruption and great ineptitude here-not exactly a good hand to play.
Nuclear power is for developed nations and the big boys, not 3rd world countries, who've demonstrated incapable to even manage coal-fired power plants.
There are various other technologies more appropriate for DR and similar, including: wind power; solar power; wave motion power; geothermal; conventional fossil fuels; etc.
No one said that Haiti or any other third world nation would be managing or even deeply involved in the nuclear option. At present Haiti, for example, has 1-2% of forested area. Much of this damage being fueled by demand for wood. Not substainable and we in the DR are paying the price(in lost forest and violence and corruption) for their lack of management. While the investment is huge, look at the alternatives. Perhaps a ten year program with French expertise and First world financing/grants can pull Haiti out of its untainable energy position.