Santo Domingo.- The 17% of the vehicle’s value which the Government charges to issue the first license plate and the ban to import those older than five years are the main challenges for the country’s car dealers.
The heads of the Dominican auto dealers grouped in Anadive) say the provisional fee of 17%, but now permanent since it has been in effect for more than three years, leads to higher auto prices.
“The existence of the law that restricts the number of years during which an automobile can be imported has kept people from accessing a tool which more than a luxury constitutes a means to work,” Anadive president Cesar de los Santos said yesterday.
That’s the reason behind his suggestion to eliminate the tax and update the norm on car imports.
De los Santos, accompanied by Anadive executives Luis Taveras and Marlon Bonnelly in the interview by newspaper El Caribe proposed to allow the entry of cars up to 10 year old (from model year 2000) “because that’s the vehicle which the most needy class can reach and will help revive the sector.”
Anadive’s executives complain that this year’s sales figures have been so negative, “that it would be shameful to compare it with those of 2008,” a plunge they affirm is as high as 65 percent.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Shameful Prices...........is the reason
Written by: telemeco, 17 Nov 2009 9:05 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
i think he is right, i can them send my un-used 2001 Pathfinder and put some natural gas system cause here in the U.S owning an SUV is a whole in your wallet
Written by: curlando, 17 Nov 2009 9:21 AM
From: United States, Bronx
The reason for poor sales could be the residents in a poor country can't afford to pay double what the car is really worth.
From: United States
The prices of vehicles limits NEW car sales to drug dealers and government officials...like I said............DRUG DEALERS
Written by: Juango, 17 Nov 2009 10:05 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
If more than 50% of the population of the country cannot buy their daily food requirements nor medicine, how do you expect them to buy automobiles? If the government gave away autos to every family in the country, most would not be able to buy the fuel required to use them. The only auto sales that continue to hold their own, are the Premium/Luxuery units. I wonder why? The "evil white powder business" is a blessing in some ways, along with all the under the table exchanges in government contracts. Just ask yourself, how many new SUV units have been ordered by the Gov. in years 2008-10? No electricity, but we are "riding in style." btw, how many SuperTucanos have been placed into service as of today?
Written by: juanb, 17 Nov 2009 10:12 AM
From: Dominican Republic
How about the exhorbitant interest rates? 25+% for a car loan is highway robbery.
From: United States
All good reasons and also add in the people who are getting most of these new vehicles are not paying those taxes anyhow. They use their government positions to bring them in tax free or bribe some officials in most cases so none of the "tax money" ends up being brought in as taxes anyhow. The people in charge are so greedy, corrupt, and stupid they have in effect ruined the car business. Does not surprise me one bit in a country where they cannot even have reliable electricity.
Written by: josean, 17 Nov 2009 11:31 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
I thought it was because people have given up driving and are riding the METRO!
From: United States
the used car business was effectively ruined by one of the most counter-intuitive, idiotic measures ever adopted by any government; the stopping of importation of cars older than 5 years . the rationale was that the Dominican Republic is a tourist mecca, and, as such, could not allow for the spectacle of bangers and beaters on the highways and byways. sheer genius! yes! allow for only the importation of newer, more expensive cars, and that will expunge the jalopies! NOT. it simply means that Fausto will have to continue driving the 1981 Datsun B210, because he cannot afford to buy a 2005 Montero, like the politicians and colonels can. and, by the way, a seven or eight year car in the USA is not a beater. they are driven on good roads, receive proper care, and are routinely inspected for roadworthiness. so, this is what you get when the new car dealers bribe the government to ban older cars, so they can hog the entire automobile market, and force out the lesser players.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
sounds like a used car salesman wanting to get out .....dread your point is well taken ....I believe this was all originally all set up to serve the Oligarchs who owned the car dealerships and everything else .....Competition will help the public .....this system serves the few
Written by: josean, 17 Nov 2009 11:43 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
dread,
You are amazing!
You even made Banistan see the light!
Bani I am proud of you, I know how difficult it most have been for you to write the word "Oligarchs!'"
Who said an old dog can't learn new tricks!
From: United States
the common wisdom was that the Nobel candidate, Hippolito Mejia, was the mind behind the idea. we know why. he sold out to the Oligarchs( thanks for the word, Blutarsky). but Leonel promised to rescind the order, when he was campaigning for President. however, when the rubber met the road, he too could not resist the primal urge to sell out to bigger business. so much for integrity.
Written by: xwill7, 17 Nov 2009 11:57 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Tons of people are sending 10 year old cars in... you just pay alittle more for the propina. Also, many dealers have a 97 corrolla or civic with a sign saying "just imported from USA".... how did that happen??? You can get anything into DR
Also, sales are down because most people are shipping their cars from USA instead of paying the high purchase price from the dealers in DR
Written by: synapse, 17 Nov 2009 1:06 PM
From: United States
How can you sell anything if financing options are at 30% interest?
Let's get real!!!!!!
Written by: xwill7, 17 Nov 2009 1:29 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
sales will be down when they are trying to sell a 96 corrolla with who knows how many miles for 250,000 pesos! You can be sure that this car has over 200,000 miles and driven into all of the pot holes
Written by: bearcat, 17 Nov 2009 1:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The reason for outlawing the importation of cars more than five years old was to upgrade the transport fleet for tourist develepment was "wrongheaded" in these respects. Tourism and the income earned can be here today and gone tommorrow. The goal should have been to build the country and to do that you need cost effective, clean running and "safe" vehicles. Therefore automoblie and trucks should have been made cheaper and not more expensive. A man driving a cab making DM150 a run and paying DM100 for a gallon of gas can not save money to buy a 2007 Cadillac ESc for his business that costs US $70,000 in the DR and US 21, 000 in Flordia.
If duty and taxes were reasonable or non existant then the goal would have been meet if not locally by importers. But then that is the problem the locals wanted control. Well they have a controlled mess; thousands of unsafe vehicles on the road and a toursit nightmare.
Written by: xwill7, 17 Nov 2009 3:24 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
all cabs could be driving 2000 and newer corrolla and civic if the import tax was lowered
From: United States
thi is my coment on this. note when anybody sent a car/ truck to DR is like getting beat as drum.you olready paid for it, but on top of that we the gov/ custons.will makeyou paid a fee for custons / another for plates, insurance, and registration and on top of all that the famos of ALL ....16 % ITBS. HOW COME. it gets bigger but i have to keep my coments shorts .
Written by: abc200, 17 Nov 2009 4:05 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Stupid - ban all imports. This way for the most popular models all spare parts would be made locally providing much needed employment. When I catch a taxi I couldn't care less if it is a 20 year old car with new panels or a new car. The peso is falling by 5% per month - why waste foriegn exchange importing cars .....
I guess that under trade agreements this might be difficult for the government to do - but they could copy other nations and set up one or two 'inspection and road-worthiness' stations with very limited capacity and high fees for imports with long queues and at least 25 forms to fill in!
Some crazy posters\!
S.
Written by: xwill7, 17 Nov 2009 4:24 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
abc,
ban all imports? you are nuts! DR does not produce cars, it is a free country not Cuba! People should have the right to import any legal product that they want... Go back to bed with Castro!
Written by: bearcat, 17 Nov 2009 6:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I agree open the markets not close or tax them to death. If duty where 1/2 for three years the country would make more money on duty than now. When taxes are high people cheat when they are reasonable people pay and move alone.
The DR has no heavy industrial capicity at all. The can not build spare parts that takes skilled labor, equipment and raw materials. This country may have two of the three. But domestic investments is almost none existent in this sector of import substituion products.
Written by: anthonyC, 17 Nov 2009 7:28 PM
From: United States
Can always count on ABC to give her opinion even though he knows nothing about the subject.
Written by: josean, 17 Nov 2009 7:42 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
He is emulating you!
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Guys,
Go easy on abc.....he may not make sense or know anything of subject matter, but at least he's entertaining!
As for his comments on cab rides, I don't buy it. He is not type to hire a cab; I suppose he is a card-carrying Greenpeace member, and too far to the left of Castro liberal to consider a means of personal conveyance other than a bicycle or solar-powered scooter. Probably a mental lapse on his part, or a feeble attempt to seem relevant or hip.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Curlando & Dogg,
Right on the money!
Written by: abc200, 18 Nov 2009 9:21 AM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Of course it is right to stop importing luxury goods such as cars in times of economic distress. Everyone must make sacrifices and if the money that would have have gone to corrupt overseas corporations that produce the cars is circulated in the economy jobs are created. Cars in particular are unfortunate in that they create an ongoing liability to import fuel, spare parts, hospitals to take care of road traffic accidents etc.
When asked people are prepared to make small sacrifices in a democracy they do except for a few obstinate pigs - do we have some on this board? Obstinate pigs need a little gentle coaxing.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paanta/37113273/S.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
abc I enjoyed your photo of the English tourist being directed to the buffet table at the all inclusive but please stay on topic.....they say in your country ........Ein Volk, Ein Reich,Nein Schwein — "One People, One Nation, No ABC". ..and dont come back..............
Written by: abc200, 18 Nov 2009 10:59 AM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
My favorite books 'Ad astra per alia porci' Yours:
Let’s find a Way today,
that can take us to tomorrow.
We’ll follow that Way,
A Way like flowing water.
Let’s leave behind,
the things that do not matter.
And we’ll turn our lives,
to a more important chapter.
Let’s take the time and try to find,
what real life has to offer.
And maybe then we’ll find again,
what we had long forgotten.
Like a friend, true ’til the end,
it will help us onward.
The sun is high, the road is wide,
and it starts where we are standing.
No one knows how far it goes,
for the road is never-ending.
It goes away,
beyond what we have thought of.
It flows away,
Away like flowing water.
Here is pig heaven for you:
http://www.pigs4ever.com/PiggyPoetry/poetry.htmJust so you can be a pig and practice before importing all those clunkers!
Right On!
S.
S.
All about piglets.
Written by: xwill7, 18 Nov 2009 11:44 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
abc,
you would fit in cuba with the 50 style cars
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Target drove a Trabant his dream car
From: United States
spare parts made locally, ABC? where, and by whom, might i ask? i can just see Fausto making the crown and pinion gears for a differential in a shed in Bani.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
abc,
You talking democracy? You are a closet communist!
Written by: xwill7, 18 Nov 2009 4:21 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
I would not want to depend on any suspention parts made in DR. too many pot holes, too many cliffs... You know that someone would cut corners during the production.
abc,
the best place to get parts if from the dealer in USA or national auto parts stores in USA
Written by: abc200, 18 Nov 2009 6:12 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Not true. I used to drive commercially doing tours and one of the countries was Yugoslavia. Our minibus broke down with Ford springs broken by pot holes. The local small factory crafted new springs in a few hours claiming it was the same spring material as in Russian tanks.. Quite a few of the local cars had raised suspensions with leaf spring sets replacing the original suspension.
Truck shocks fitted. Chinese parts for reconditioning units can be shipped direct from companies in China and are cheap enough to order quite a few...... you never know when you hit a big pot hole.........
Social democrats like me want jobs for the people..... swine want to take them away.
S.
Written by: xwill7, 18 Nov 2009 6:41 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
abc,
first of all the springs broke because you were driving a ford... lol Also,leaf springs on a car??? that would take away the control, it would feel like an old pick up. Also, if parts were made in DR the illegals would have all of the jobs so you plan wont work
Written by: abc200, 18 Nov 2009 7:23 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
abc is confused......he was really driving horse-drawn truck cab, not a self-powered vehicle!
I don't get it. What the heck could abc have possibly been doing in Yugoslavia, especially when they have such high unemployment and he clearly doesn't speak the language? Was he possibly working for Carlos the Jackal?
Anyway, how does one go from being a principal engineer at a prestigious and large company to driving a Ford tour bus in Yugoslavia? This makes no sense t me at all.
abc, are you pulling proverbial wet blanket over us? abc, btw, you are a closet communist and nothing else, so stop pretending.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
a Poseur and bushu artist abc is the Mr bojangles of the beach blanket buy me another beer set that sponges its way around the world on the other guys dime and making up stories as he goes along ....zero credibility...
Written by: xwill7, 19 Nov 2009 12:16 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
abc,
I have seen these the cost about 19,000USD. Most contractors will still use the E150 vans and pick ups. This is too small for real contractos. You can only deliver pizza in this
Written by: abc200, 19 Nov 2009 2:25 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
glo is confused again - it was before being principal engineer that i was driving a tour bus in yugoslavia - In yugoslavia with 5 unique languages ( at least ) French, German, English enough to get by.
Various versions of the Transit have been in production for 50 years - US only sees the small ones. and you can drive them on 2 wheels......
Could be N.America will be seeing more diesel Transits.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_TransitPeople with a knowledge of engineering pricniples will know that a van shape gives a better stiffness / weight of metal used ratio. Also better aerodybnamics - plus you can drive on 2 wheels.
Glo and Blut need to go back to schools.
S.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Target needs to get a brain and a new personality
Written by: abc200, 19 Nov 2009 4:07 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Blut has lost it today - maybe tomorrow will be better! Like a groupc of Americans who had forgot to get off the train in Trieste ( Italy ) and the train continued to communist Rijeka. All of sudden there was one of Tito's passport inspectors with a red star asking to inspect their passports. They were jumping up and down and wanting to stop the train and walk back to Italy. In the end the inspector and other passengers calmed them down and I gather they were put on the next train to US friendly Italy. Yes, Blut has lost the plot!
S.
From: Dominican Republic
Who wants to buy or sell a car in the Dominican Republic.
New site of free advertisements for automobiles and motorcycle sales autosales.com.do.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
@BSmith
Man, you certainly have much catch up to do.....article is so old that most of us here wouldn't remember it.
MJEV.
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You are amazing!
You even made Banistan see the light!
Bani I am proud of you, I know how difficult it most have been for you to write the word "Oligarchs!'"
Who said an old dog can't learn new tricks!
Also, sales are down because most people are shipping their cars from USA instead of paying the high purchase price from the dealers in DR
Let's get real!!!!!!
If duty and taxes were reasonable or non existant then the goal would have been meet if not locally by importers. But then that is the problem the locals wanted control. Well they have a controlled mess; thousands of unsafe vehicles on the road and a toursit nightmare.
I guess that under trade agreements this might be difficult for the government to do - but they could copy other nations and set up one or two 'inspection and road-worthiness' stations with very limited capacity and high fees for imports with long queues and at least 25 forms to fill in!
Some crazy posters\!
S.
ban all imports? you are nuts! DR does not produce cars, it is a free country not Cuba! People should have the right to import any legal product that they want... Go back to bed with Castro!
The DR has no heavy industrial capicity at all. The can not build spare parts that takes skilled labor, equipment and raw materials. This country may have two of the three. But domestic investments is almost none existent in this sector of import substituion products.
Go easy on abc.....he may not make sense or know anything of subject matter, but at least he's entertaining!
As for his comments on cab rides, I don't buy it. He is not type to hire a cab; I suppose he is a card-carrying Greenpeace member, and too far to the left of Castro liberal to consider a means of personal conveyance other than a bicycle or solar-powered scooter. Probably a mental lapse on his part, or a feeble attempt to seem relevant or hip.
Right on the money!
When asked people are prepared to make small sacrifices in a democracy they do except for a few obstinate pigs - do we have some on this board? Obstinate pigs need a little gentle coaxing.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paanta/37113273/
S.
Let’s find a Way today,
that can take us to tomorrow.
We’ll follow that Way,
A Way like flowing water.
Let’s leave behind,
the things that do not matter.
And we’ll turn our lives,
to a more important chapter.
Let’s take the time and try to find,
what real life has to offer.
And maybe then we’ll find again,
what we had long forgotten.
Like a friend, true ’til the end,
it will help us onward.
The sun is high, the road is wide,
and it starts where we are standing.
No one knows how far it goes,
for the road is never-ending.
It goes away,
beyond what we have thought of.
It flows away,
Away like flowing water.
Here is pig heaven for you:
http://www.pigs4ever.com/PiggyPoetry/poetry.htm
Just so you can be a pig and practice before importing all those clunkers!
Right On!
S.
S.
All about piglets.
you would fit in cuba with the 50 style cars
You talking democracy? You are a closet communist!
abc,
the best place to get parts if from the dealer in USA or national auto parts stores in USA
Truck shocks fitted. Chinese parts for reconditioning units can be shipped direct from companies in China and are cheap enough to order quite a few...... you never know when you hit a big pot hole.........
Social democrats like me want jobs for the people..... swine want to take them away.
S.
first of all the springs broke because you were driving a ford... lol Also,leaf springs on a car??? that would take away the control, it would feel like an old pick up. Also, if parts were made in DR the illegals would have all of the jobs so you plan wont work
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/0....sit-connect-arrives-in-the-state/
Designed, engineered and manufactured by Ford of Europe to beat tough, medium commercial vehicle standards, Transit Connect has been a sales success for Ford across the Atlantic and is an ideal option for small business owners in North America.
Must be cheaper to build in the UK.
http://media.ford.com/print_doc.cfm?article_id=21186
http://www.carpages.co.uk/ford/ford-transit-25-02-05.asp
You can't do this in your average car.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdi30q7Bz-U
S.
S.
I don't get it. What the heck could abc have possibly been doing in Yugoslavia, especially when they have such high unemployment and he clearly doesn't speak the language? Was he possibly working for Carlos the Jackal?
Anyway, how does one go from being a principal engineer at a prestigious and large company to driving a Ford tour bus in Yugoslavia? This makes no sense t me at all.
abc, are you pulling proverbial wet blanket over us? abc, btw, you are a closet communist and nothing else, so stop pretending.
I have seen these the cost about 19,000USD. Most contractors will still use the E150 vans and pick ups. This is too small for real contractos. You can only deliver pizza in this
Various versions of the Transit have been in production for 50 years - US only sees the small ones. and you can drive them on 2 wheels......
Could be N.America will be seeing more diesel Transits.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit
People with a knowledge of engineering pricniples will know that a van shape gives a better stiffness / weight of metal used ratio. Also better aerodybnamics - plus you can drive on 2 wheels.
Glo and Blut need to go back to schools.
S.
S.
New site of free advertisements for automobiles and motorcycle sales autosales.com.do.
@BSmith
Man, you certainly have much catch up to do.....article is so old that most of us here wouldn't remember it.
MJEV.