JOSEAN

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This will be a great achievement!
.With good public transport many companies and individuals will flock to the DR as a pro-business major international center. SD will be a magnet for companies and public organizations from all over the central Americas and Miami. With the new Airline SD airport will develop into a major international hub. US cities and states are deeply in debt and will gain tremendously by locating staff and services in the DR. Police departments in London have officers who serve approx. 7 months in the capital and then are free to live in other countries for the rest of the year. University tuition fees in many countries can be reduced if students spend a year or so abroad.
S.

Yeah, let's hook up with Hugo:

From today's New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/world/americas/11venez.html

Accompanying Venezuela’s soaring levels of murders and kidnappings, its cemeteries are the setting for a new kind of crime wave. Grave robbers are looting them for human bones, answering demand from some practitioners of a fast-growing transplanted Cuban religion called Palo that uses the bones in its ceremonies.

Go Metro!!!

Certanly no one will stop the metro. There is too much money going to Diandino Pena's wallet to let this be stopped.

Remember that Diandino Pena was the money bag man for Leonel to get elected. He needs to be paid back for his investment in Leonel.

Are we discussing banana leaves or fig leaves? I guess all powerful nations have been bounded by corruprtion:
Voters in some constituencies were independent enough to resist domination by powerful landlords. However, they were, in many cases, still open to corruption. Electors were bribed individually in some boroughs, and collectively in others. In 1771, for example, it was revealed that eighty-one voters in New Shoreham (who constituted a majority of the electorate) formed a corrupt organization that called itself the "Christian Club," and regularly sold the borough to the highest bidder.[21] Especially notorious for their corruption were the "nabobs," or individuals who had amassed fortunes in the British colonies in Asia and the West Indies. The nabobs, in some cases, even managed to wrest control of boroughs from the nobility and the gentry.[22] Lord Chatham, Prime Minister of Great Britain during the 1760s, once commented that "the importers of foreign gold have forced their

Except that the DR in the 21st century is not a powerful nation but a banana republic filled with corruption from the top down.

their way into Parliament, by such a torrent of corruption as no private hereditary fortune could resist."[23]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Reform_Act_1832
Of course the Duke of Wellington invested in tunnels - and where did he get the money from?
Wellington bought all his positions in the army much as US people buy good jobs by paying huge fees to Harvard and other Ivy league universities. He happened to win the battle of Waterloo and had prize money of 60,000 pounds- a great deal in those days,. By accident now of course US Senate\ postitions seem ot go to house with large advertising budgets and the support of their local industrialists. However Wellington did invest some of his wealth in a tunnel under the Thames - still in use today.
S.

Of course Napoleon's troops were defeated in Haiti and he had to sell his US empire. At the time UK was more corrupt from the top to the bottom then the French Empire. Of course Swift campaigned against corruption and famine earlier with little effect. Dickens of course exposed the corrupt nature of the British judical system in Bleak House:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Corruption-in-Bleak-House
Many would argue that the US system is corrupt with 1% of the population locked up nder one pretext or another and the lea bargaining system.
So maybe not a banana republic?
S.

Let's go metro! This is great news. Arriba leoenel, sin ti no somos nada!

I can't wait until they finish the second line and start the third!

and very soon the island in the malecon area and not electricity. A lot of corruction and drug drug drug the narco state and no body is doing nothing. but like i said everything you do wrong here u pay it here alive not when you die. Let see what happend at the end god knows when it will happend.

and just how many more millions a year will this #2 cost? Like I said we eat cat and we know it all; kaffas all. Follow the drunkin Pres.

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I repeat, " ! "

After the all line of the METRO are completed.... RAISE the price of GASOLINE to $15 USD per gallon... that way people use the metro, stop using cars (which pollute the envrionment and aren't made in the DR and use lots of OIL which we don't have, with the excess money we can built better infrastruture, raise the minimun wage of domincans and start paying the debt!

Built the UTOPIA we know we can have!

It's sad when a group of thieves (The PRD) can rightfully attack the government:


The PRD says that: "Hundreds of jobs have been destroyed, thousands of companies have gone bankrupt, crime is at its highest levels in Dominican history, food prices are unaffordable for households, blackouts and the electricity sector are unprecedented, the quality of Dominican public education is regarded by the World Economic Forum as the worst in the world, public health collapses with the indifference of a government that is postponing the fair demands of doctors, transport, despite the enormous resources spent on the metro, is in chaos, corruption, the highest in Dominican history is on the rise, drug trafficking prevails, despite the PLD's rhetoric declaring that this would not happen, and it has found its main protector and ally in this PLD government."

Great CF!
Imagine a large traffic free zone with the metro and small electric buses! So attractive to tourists!
Great working environment with green spaces rplacing roads In some areas in London they limit deliveries to before 7 am. Build glasshouses on the useless overpasses! Crazed US imperialists try and promote roads as they try and destroy our planet by making billions of cars - these czars should be rotting in jail by now! Down with Fascists!
S.

nooooooooo down with people and their churches. If you black stay back. If you yellow you be melloooo. I guess that's a bad sign for frenandie and pena relatives included

carlo and abc... SUV will never go away in DR. you need it to go to other areas... also, the women like guys with SUV not riding the metro

what an extraordinary and unique view of French and British history and also of SD from abc200 especially the view that SD can be a caribbean hub and a tourist mecca. SD,unfortunately ,is for the most part a squalid and most unattractive haphazardly grown city that is now suffering from centuries of poor and no planning .It has a wonderful small colonial centre and the sea but little more and can never be anything more than the main centre of government and commerce on the island

abc,
many tourists do not want to ride the metro everyday. By riding the metro they can be in danger of being robbed. Taxi will be the best and safest option for tourists if they use the taxis from their hotel.
Remember, the metro is for moving the mass of Dominican citizens not for the tourists

"Built the UTOPIA we know we can have!"

Guys absorb and think about that statement for a moment and you will understand why we need EDUCATION NOW!

Willy... If you put the price of gas at 15 US dollars per gallon meaning it would take 255 Dollars or 9,180 Peso to fill a tank, people will find the Metro fashionable!

Of course there would have to be excenption for cabs and buses that transport between the provinces... trust me bro, i've got it all figure out... and we need to stop wasting the few dollars we have on this bullshit!

I bought a car... Dumbest thing i have ever done... I admit it!

xw is stupid tourists in Thailand take the Skytrain or Metro - London, Paris ditto. Who wants to breathe fumes in a traffic jam for an hour when a transport system will take you safely in a pleasant environment. in one third of the time. Your are more likely to be robbed in a Taxi - even in London!
Taxis are for mugs! Yes, 15 dollar gas would soon solve a lot of prblems. Bicycles, electric cycles, mopeds would suddenly get very popular!
S.

Ric - look what they have done to London Docklands now it has modern transport!
S.

London docklands is indeed a great example of slum lands being made into very livable areas but we do not have the billions of dollars to do that here

Josean is envious that Haiti is still in the 19th century... If boyer or toussaint or Dessaline were to come back they would feel in their own times... JAJJAJAJAJJJAJA

abc,

You've clearly outdone yourself this time, you far-out liberal/socialist/communist!

The worst thing about your usual left-leaning, whacky and incoherent commentaries is that I see how you are succeeding at perverting other minds.

The objectives you champion don't work and, in effect, reduce us to slaves. You advocate restriction of freedom and a benign form of totalitarianism. You want those damn liberals in control and dictating their crazy whims on the rest of us.

I believe you should move to either Cuba or Venezuela, for that's where you clearly belong-with loco "Hugo" and senile "Fidel".

Stop advocating restriction of freedoms and taxation, and devote your energy toward promoting reduced taxes, red tape and corruption. Great Britain is really not that great an example, for its time has clearly come and gone; ditto for much of your beloved Europe.

MJEV.

Glo - a senior manager / executive once repeated to me the adage - 'to fail to plan is to plan to fail'
Chaos, that you advocate, results in a high probability of failure outside one or two special economic scenarios. Great planning has achieved much in the US as well without reducing liberty. For example the Hoover dam and associated Boulder City. The first production of penicillin in government labs. Liberty ships etc.
Travel by private car is not a sacred right. The right to a well organised health service, good supply of nutritious food, adequate shelter, education, work all take priority. But in economies without limited resources planning is required. For example if a country has no oil it only makes sense to plan for reduction in oil consumption. In your own private life if you had a plot of land and you needed to you would grow potatoes not buy rirce which you could not grow.
This is liberty, not totalitiarianism. If a group of people decide nutrition is lacking

and set up a vegetable plot to grow food for their childrern this is liberty not totalitarianism. The totalitarianism is organizations such as CNN physiologically manipulating people though adverts to purchase items not needed for their families when basic needs go unmet. Also to adopt unsustainable lifestyles - you would love to see countries such as DR covered in 6 lane highways will noise, pollution, energy consumption, unnecessary import of cars etc. Freedom is not doing this and developing good train services, coach services etc. Social democracies of Europe have high happiness ratings - not everything should be slavishly copied but many people would freely prefer the transport system of Munich to that of Detroit. They know that they can pay a little extra tax perhaps or pay 299 a month plus to loans sharks to finance their car and pay taxes to cover the land in concrete. which will surely crumble in few years.

education for the haitian children, put all the money there
forget about everything else.

Your motto is to pave paradise and put up parking lots.
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/72020/
So enough of your nonsense....
http://www.lightrailnow.org/features/f_det_2005-01.htm
S.

R there are many examples of towns and cities that have reformed through good planning. Cities in Ch4ina such as Shanghai are taking planning very seriously. Take a look at this:
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/....-scale-model-of-shanghai-in-2020/
But clearly rural planning is equally or more important.
China has a new integrated planning law:
http://www.chinalawinsight.com/articles/corporate/real-estate/

S.

This will be a great achievement!
.With good public transport many companies and individuals will flock to the DR as a pro-business major international center. SD will be a magnet for companies and public organizations from all over the central Americas and Miami. With the new Airline SD airport will develop into a major international hub. US cities and states are deeply in debt and will gain tremendously by locating staff and services in the DR. Police departments in London have officers who serve approx. 7 months in the capital and then are free to live in other countries for the rest of the year. University tuition fees in many countries can be reduced if students spend a year or so abroad.
S.

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Because this types of vision is the main reason we cannot pull the "Stick out of the Hole"

LOL

The money spent on the Pre op work can fix the electric problem in the entire country and not just POSSIBLY haul 3%. Think how productive the country can be... Potable water can also help the health and welfare of the country but what the hell give em a subway underused and over paid. Keep te people STUPID so they don't complain about the graft and corruption.

What a country... ABC I am so glad you are over the pond and not here that I can't even express how much.

I love new york city because it has the best public transportation in the world. No where like it. It would be nice If I can go to santo domingo and do the same

abc,

Glad you finally found something good to say about the US.

Western Europe, with a total land mass smaller or same as US, produces the same or larger number of vehicles per year; in fact, the ratio of vehicles to people there may actually exceed that of US. They also employ diesel technology predominantly, which pollutes way more than gasoline vehicles, especially CO2. That is primary reason why diesels are effectively dead in US.

BTW, abc, my company produces the most effective diesel fuel injection system: "the common rail". I was at the forefront of its development and worked closely with Ian Niddlenis of Perkins in Peterborough, UK, in latter part of 90's. Ian might just be the most knowledgeable diesel person in world.

Anyway, Europeans are enslaved to their social programs and associated taxes to support them. If that's what you like, then I am glad you reside there and not here, for I like freedom-very much!

MJEV.

Ambio,

Obviously, you've not traveled much outside US, DR.

NYC's public transportation system best in world! No, not by far. I would take the Tokyo and Korean system hands down! German and French systems are also stellar, not to mention other fine European systems. NYC probably wouldn't make top ten.

MJEV.

Escott,

Electrical energy problem cannot be fixed in DR, so long as we feel that everyone is entitled to having it, even if they do not pay for it. It is not strictly an infrastructure concern, for that is the easy part. Rather, it is the willingness and ability to pay for the service that is the bigger part of problem. I do not see a solution to latter anytime soon, perhaps never! Dominicans are pre-disposed to cheat and lie and that is cultural. Unless we correct this cultural deficiency, this and other similar problem will persist through the generations, and we shall remain a 3rd world countries with big ambitions. Period.

MJEV.

Is there anyone on this forum that has any real experience?

CO2 is lower on diesels - cars that produce under 100 g/km on sale in UK are nearly all diesels.
http://www.roadtaxprices.co.uk/Road_Tax_Band_A_Cars.htm
Diesel hybrids can produce even less.
If countries like the DR imported these cars predominately then oil import costs would drop dramatically in time.
But planning cities with good public transport and bicycle tracks etc. and low car access is the best strategy.

S.