The Haitians took refuge in the church at Dajabon. Photo Jesuit Service for Migrants and Refugees.
SANTIAGO.- The Immigration Agency will issue IDs to hundreds of Haitian workers in farms of the Northwest and other Cibao regions starting this month, measure aimed at having more control of the number of foreigners.
Immigration regional director Kenya Serrata said the process seeks to provide a legal migratory status for the Haitians, whom shed said work mostly in North region farms illegally.
She denied that Immigration is providing a temporary legal document to immigrants who work in construction or who roams the streets.
"Immigration will only issue an ID to Haitian citizens who work in farms, since the farm owners are the people responsible for those workers," Serrata said, adding that the permits will only be valid by a period of six months.
The issuing of IDs to the Haitians comes just a few weeks after almost 800 undocumented workers took refuge in Dajabón’s main catholic church, and were later repatriated by the Border Security Corps on instructions from Immigration.
Dajabón parish priest Regino Martinez defends the permanence of those workers in the country, alleging that most of them are serious people who contribute to the nation.
The prelate affirmed that worse the business on the Dominican-Haitian border is the traffic of undocumented people on the part of some authorities and individuals, whom he said profit from it.
SOURCE: diariolibre.com
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
is there a fair solution to this problem?
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Mar 2009 10:10 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Goulet banned? I think that there's going to be a snowfall on Santo Domingo anytime soon.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
I guess I wont use that one anymore
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Mar 2009 10:27 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Maybe they're making some warning shots to you like they did with the late Belial.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the late great Belial gone from the charts but not from our hearts.......a moments silence
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Mar 2009 10:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
You'd be surprised at the quantity of words and expressions that, notwithstanding their being common currency in Spain, are considered here to be swear words and indecencies. This attitude is what I call mojigateria (prudishness), cuz' the spaniards at least tell things as they are. Even the ones that are religious in their views find us to be excessively prudish to their tastes. Guess that we don't follow Spain in everything, as the usual suspects accuse us of doing on a routinely basis.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
yes compared to some of the things said I thought it was tame BUT if that was it I will have to beware
Written by: Jander, 2 Mar 2009 1:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I guess there is a fine line between innapropriate and censorship ?
Written by: antonioj, 2 Mar 2009 1:45 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Goulet banned !!! please tell me I am not dreaming !! next strike you out
From: United States, New York City
Why was goulet banned?
Written by: etiennc, 2 Mar 2009 1:54 PM
From: United States
Because of the sensitivy of this article , further discussions will be locked.
Written by: josean, 2 Mar 2009 2:28 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Let me say that I have personally experienced the offensive, childish wrath of his acid tongue, and his sophomoric humor, to the point that several of the posters here at DT have emailed me and asked why I take it; because I do not support censorship of any kind, much less banning someone!
So I respectfully ask that the staff of DT to reconsider their decision and ask the other posters to make the same appeal!
Written by: Lautaro, 2 Mar 2009 3:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
You have my entire support on that score, josean. Without GC's witticisms and occassional outlandish sallies, DT would be a very dull and boring place indeed.
Written by: etiennc, 2 Mar 2009 3:54 PM
From: United States
?????????????????????
Written by: Jander, 2 Mar 2009 5:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I concurr let him back in.
Written by: antonioj, 2 Mar 2009 5:27 PM
From: Canada, home safe
We want Goulet back, I am sure there must be some mis-understanding, anyone would liked to peruse the comment that got him banned ? Sure will be missed.
From: Dominican Republic
Rewarding illegality is erosive, corrosive, and morally WRONG! These people never wished to comply with the 285 in the first place and now, with Dominican tax payer's money, we are legalizing these interlopers for free?
Given the open borders, the corruption at the border, and the inability to control it, more illegals will cross over to DR. I am quite sure that the two millions illegal are happy and the Port of Pigs administration is smiling!
From: Canada
GC banned?? I must have missed something! And some others are still allowed to write?
Written by: vacanos, 3 Mar 2009 1:15 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
phase two--get them ID. NGO winning the battle big time they are cleaning the floor with our corrupted no ball govt let the peacefull invasion begin. let clear some room for the 30,000 on the way from the US.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
thank you all or most of you for your kind words.....I thought I had been banned for using a Spanish expression that had to do with the character of Hippos face when I referred to him as Cara de M-------on but apparently it was for telling the joke about the venereal diseases and which one does not belong in the category....This is a very old joke and is published in even very strait laced publications it goes like this ....well on second thought..... if the censor thought it was obscene she has a serious problem and is truly a prude....I will keep in touch .....and return to insult you all again Good luck
Written by: antonioj, 3 Mar 2009 9:43 AM
From: Canada, home safe
I have contacted DT they have confirmed that Glout is banned for only 7 days. He may have sin when selecting his choice of words during a heated debate with someone, I will leave it to that.
Written by: etiennc, 3 Mar 2009 10:00 PM
From: United States
Josean , me and Roso ,we were named moderators of this forum.
We have the power to ban irratable and disrespectful posters.
But you don't have to worry, Keep your posts clean accurate,objective, civil.
i am keeping an eye on that letroude
Written by: etiennc, 3 Mar 2009 10:01 PM
From: United States
goulet has been banned ?????????????
Written by: antonioj, 3 Mar 2009 10:12 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Written by: etiennc, 3 Mar 2009 10:00 PM
From: United States
Josean , me and Roso ,we were named moderators of this forum.
We have the power to ban irratable and disrespectful posters.
But you don't have to worry, Keep your posts clean accurate,objective, civil.
i am keeping an eye on that letroude
"
No need Letroude is a mutating virus, only let nature take his course
From: United States
This is a step in the right direction. Much more to be done.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
How come the US want to deport 30,000 Haitians??
Double standard!!!!!!
The evil empire is in decadence!!!
From: United States
It is an old deportation order under Bush. We are fighting it. It's not going to happen.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Fighting for what???
They will get deported regardless!!!!!
Americans don't want Haitians in USA, they want them in Haiti or Dominican Republic!!!
From: Dominican Republic
Please, call Sanz Jiminian and tell him, that, as a Dominican Citizen, you disapprove of any legalization that does not contemplate a comprehensive solution to illegal migration.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Haitian_liberator_1
Do you believe that Americans want or like Haitians living in Florida??
Absolutely NO The "evil empire" just adore and are willing to acept the
Cubans since They do have power and represent one of the strongest
"etnic" classes in the US.
Stop dreaming that US gives a BS about your country, They do have a
double standard for every political move "WAKE UP"
From: Dominican Republic
It is my understanding that the DR with this program is taking a first step to secure for itself the supply of agricultural workers that it needs for its harvest. There are no programs here for "migrant worker visas" as there are in the US. The only way to get proper working papers is to have a cedula - and for that you must have a passport from Haiti, and a visa, and a means of support, etc etc -- all of which most of the farm workers (and sugar cane workers and construction workers) do not have. Many of them - probably most of them - have no papers at all even from Haiti- no birth certificates, no identity papers of any kind. This is a step for the DR to ascertain how many Haitian workers it really needs - and then it can begin to tackle the problem of the "extras".
From: Dominican Republic
About the Haitians in the US - there is a massive campaign (google it) to get these Haitians temporary protected status. All 30,000 have been through a legal process for deportation- not, say, just picked up at a work site on a call from their employer who doesn't want to pay them on Friday and dumped across the border. An estimated half are released felons who have served their time and are being deported as part of their sentance. The US is the major donor of money to Haiti - the international community contributes the 70% of the cost of government there - so it is clearly not true that the US (or the international community) does not care what goes on here.
I so adore people who immigrate to the US and then call it the "evil empire"- why not come back here, then? Plenty of room. And warmer than Port Washington, for sure.
Written by: Lautaro, 5 Mar 2009 11:44 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
That might be so, annie, but the case could be made of the US being an "evil empire" in the sense of their not moving a finger to change the status quo that makes haitian migration a possibility, namely, to abandon their abusive trade policies regarding that country, starting with allowing the haitian gov to restore the necessary tariffs in order to revive the country's agriculture, or cancelling its foreign debt as it did with some Central American countries, to mention some of the very useful "teach the man to catch the fish instead of only giving it to them" measures that could do a lot in the resolution the present dilemma.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Annie:
Double standard for everytthing, on one side China is a great ally because They provide cash
influx to american economy and right now are the ones supporting most of the US debt but
on the other side block Cuba and play the convenience card whenever is convenient.
Americans are twisting the main reality with the Haitians living in Dominican Republic and
are trying to impose their will and hegemony so Dominicans become responsible for a
mess that don't belong to their country.
Dominican Republic is my homeland and don't like the cheap propaganda to please some
people that hate us.
Written by: etiennc, 5 Mar 2009 6:53 PM
From: United States
Antonioj , when we close letroudemierda's hole guess what ? Rubi sticks his neck out from anotheR NEARBY hole.Speaking abouT" mutating virus" you can NOT be more right ?
LETROUDE RUBI OR ROUBILETROUDE MIERDA
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Etienc:
Likewise!!!!
You are out of league and sensitive to acknowledge about your people own misconceptions and blackmailing victim syndrome!!
Written by: etiennc, 5 Mar 2009 8:02 PM
From: United States
Rubi you have a thin skin.I am just teasing you. This forum would have been so boring without you.
You are the rush limp baugh of DT and I am one of the late night comedians.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Etiennc:
Sorry to dissapoint You but this guy is a big, fat pig full of himself and trying to defend a dark, non
sense, corrupted agenda for the republicans, on my side I just care about my country being free
of threat from Your people in the near future.
"Plain and simple"
Written by: Trujillo, 7 Mar 2009 7:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I can't believe I'll say this: We'll never get rid of haitian immigration in the DR. I'm worried that we could lose our identity as dominicans and our sovereignty. There are a lot of things that can be done to better protect our porous border, but they'll always be a big haitian presence in the DR. I guess the best we could do is try to counter that by allowing massive immigration from Asia and Latin America. lol no, seriously.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Trujillo:
Agree with you and is sad to say that current Dominican president is smart in some areas but he is full of himself, weak and scare to execute power to protect our country, Pelegrin Castillo already said that He is working to please international community not to protect our country,
We need somebody with "Strong fortitude" to deal with this issue like a man, hero and patriot not
a man with scare in his heart, mind and will.
Written by: Trujillo, 7 Mar 2009 7:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic
If our politicians were real patriots and had the will and best national interests in their minds and hearts the DR would've already been a first world nation. I'm not just speaking about this immigration issue, but in general.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Trujillo:
Look at the big picture, try to watch a session with either chamber "Senadores o diputados" They are a bunch of lazy, corrupted and good for nothing scumbags looking to milk the country for their own personal reasons.
So far the only 2 proactive ones are Pelegrin Castillo and Wilton Guerrero everybody else is full of BS.
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So I respectfully ask that the staff of DT to reconsider their decision and ask the other posters to make the same appeal!
Given the open borders, the corruption at the border, and the inability to control it, more illegals will cross over to DR. I am quite sure that the two millions illegal are happy and the Port of Pigs administration is smiling!
We have the power to ban irratable and disrespectful posters.
But you don't have to worry, Keep your posts clean accurate,objective, civil.
i am keeping an eye on that letroude
From: United States
Josean , me and Roso ,we were named moderators of this forum.
We have the power to ban irratable and disrespectful posters.
But you don't have to worry, Keep your posts clean accurate,objective, civil.
i am keeping an eye on that letroude
"
No need Letroude is a mutating virus, only let nature take his course
Double standard!!!!!!
The evil empire is in decadence!!!
They will get deported regardless!!!!!
Americans don't want Haitians in USA, they want them in Haiti or Dominican Republic!!!
Do you believe that Americans want or like Haitians living in Florida??
Absolutely NO The "evil empire" just adore and are willing to acept the
Cubans since They do have power and represent one of the strongest
"etnic" classes in the US.
Stop dreaming that US gives a BS about your country, They do have a
double standard for every political move "WAKE UP"
I so adore people who immigrate to the US and then call it the "evil empire"- why not come back here, then? Plenty of room. And warmer than Port Washington, for sure.
Double standard for everytthing, on one side China is a great ally because They provide cash
influx to american economy and right now are the ones supporting most of the US debt but
on the other side block Cuba and play the convenience card whenever is convenient.
Americans are twisting the main reality with the Haitians living in Dominican Republic and
are trying to impose their will and hegemony so Dominicans become responsible for a
mess that don't belong to their country.
Dominican Republic is my homeland and don't like the cheap propaganda to please some
people that hate us.
LETROUDE RUBI OR ROUBILETROUDE MIERDA
Likewise!!!!
You are out of league and sensitive to acknowledge about your people own misconceptions and blackmailing victim syndrome!!
You are the rush limp baugh of DT and I am one of the late night comedians.
Sorry to dissapoint You but this guy is a big, fat pig full of himself and trying to defend a dark, non
sense, corrupted agenda for the republicans, on my side I just care about my country being free
of threat from Your people in the near future.
"Plain and simple"
Agree with you and is sad to say that current Dominican president is smart in some areas but he is full of himself, weak and scare to execute power to protect our country, Pelegrin Castillo already said that He is working to please international community not to protect our country,
We need somebody with "Strong fortitude" to deal with this issue like a man, hero and patriot not
a man with scare in his heart, mind and will.
Look at the big picture, try to watch a session with either chamber "Senadores o diputados" They are a bunch of lazy, corrupted and good for nothing scumbags looking to milk the country for their own personal reasons.
So far the only 2 proactive ones are Pelegrin Castillo and Wilton Guerrero everybody else is full of BS.