From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
I didn't believe it at first, but i do now.
there is a conspiracy to unify the island
And dominican traitors are the hidden hand behind it.
I don't know about the rest of yall but i'm ready to take up arms.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
yo no sabia que Benny Hill es Dominicano
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
The only Dominican political patriot, 100% tested And proven
compare to some weak And corrupted PLD goverment deputies.
From: United States, New York City
Hablo claro el hombre. He made his case without resorting to fear-mongering or race-baiting and it's a very valid case at that. He threw the blame for the illegal haitian immigration exactly where it belonged, at the feet of a "business sector with a savage mentality that acts with no respect for the rules". Exactly.
Written by: generoso, 6 Mar 2009 1:09 PM
From: United States, DR
Pellegrin Castillo (son of Vincho Castillo) has always fought to stop illegal Haitian immigration and has a long record of protecting the territories of the DR in land, air and seas.
The immigration law has been approved but the rules for enforcement have not been done because of the pressure from many powerful lobbies, including government, agricultural sections and construction moguls, and maybe even the Haitian big business and Haitian government representatives in DR that do not want the law to be enforced.
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Mar 2009 1:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Más claro de ahí, ni el agua. Como dice el pueblo "el tipo dijo la cosa como es", esperen a los sospechosos de siempre el señalarlo como "racista" y demás hierbas aromáticas.
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 1:37 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
castillo you are my hero. at least somebody with ball not afraid of the radical foreigner activist. this is what im talking about.
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 1:39 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
any minute now the radical foreigner will invade this thread to lecture us on racism
From: United States, Brooklyn
Many of you know me already and that i have been stressing this point since the begining of my time here at DT... Haitian immigration lowers poor dominicans wages and forces them to risk their lives at sea trying to reach the US economic zone.
Written by: generoso, 6 Mar 2009 3:21 PM
From: United States, DR
It is the Haitian-Fucú that follows them wherever they go because of dealing with black magic
and the horrible crimes they committed, and keep committing against their own people and Dominicans. Plus their tendency to live in a surreal fantasy world, typical of slave mentality and
just hoping for a Maná or savior to descend from heaven (or an airplane) and hand them to their waiting hands, great prosperity without them doing anything to help bring that about.
The US doesn't want the Haitians to come on boats, that is why they have a permanent US Navy patrol and blockade around Haiti to stop and send back any boats coming to the US.
They would rather have them keep coming to the DR, "the land of plenty", and want to somehow force us to accept them as citizens.
It is happening as we speak, and the scary thing is once they are here, they will NOT want to return, so we Dominicans think it is going to be easy to send them back. Wake up!
Written by: jacirez 
, 6 Mar 2009 4:24 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
Explain this to me. How is the following statement:
"...The presence of the illegal Haitian manpower, which I call an industrial reserve army, is what causes the salaries of the Dominicans to head downward and in complicity with the authorities’ indifference..."
Not race baiting...?
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
Jacirez i would like to break it down 4 you but i'm not good at spoonfeeding retards.
maybe lautaro or generoso can they're more patience than me
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 4:35 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario,
Wow! I'm impressed you can write full sentences now...Just remember, after a period, the first letter of the next sentence is capitalized; such that instead of "...you but i'm not good at spoonfeeding retards. maybe lautaro or generoso...", you should have written "...you but i'm not good at spoonfeeding retards. Maybe lautaro or generoso...". Also you should have put in a comma after the name Jacirez...
All in all very impressive. Maybe we will let you stay around when we (the grownups) are talking...ataboy.
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Mar 2009 4:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
I will put it to you on one single question, jacirez: Are the haitians a "race" by chance, and not a nationality plain and simple?
Written by: Gizmo , 6 Mar 2009 4:47 PM
From: United States
This a powder keg that will soon explode! I believe what he says partially, but haitians don't have nothing to look forward in Haiti. So they naturally cross the border to get any job for any salary, that's what keeps the wages low for the common dominican trying to compete with an underpaid workforce. A practice that occurs in the four corners of the world, and at the same time is creating a class of extremely poor people versus a small class of extremely wealthy people, when it comes to equality in standards of living and net worth. Things have to change or the rollercoaster ride will spiral downwards instead of up and down which still leads to major losses for the majority.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 4:48 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
Lautaro,
Conceptions of race, as well as specific ways of grouping races, vary by culture and over time, and are often controversial for scientific as well as social and political reasons. The controversy ultimately revolves around whether or not the concept of race is biologically warranted (which I think it is not); the ways in which political correctness might fuel either the affirmation or the denial of race; and the degree to which perceived differences in ability and achievement, categorized on the basis of race, are a product of inherited (i.e., genetic) traits or environmental, social and cultural factors (i.e the bell curve).
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 4:50 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario,
Shhhh, growups are talking now...
Written by: Gizmo , 6 Mar 2009 4:54 PM
From: United States
Old_School_Trinitario your right about you're last post LOL.....
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 4:58 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
Gizmo,
"...that's what keeps the wages low for the common dominican trying to compete with an underpaid workforce. A practice that occurs in the four corners of the world, and at the same time is creating a class of extremely poor people versus a small class of extremely wealthy people..."
That was a rather insightful statement; which adds a lot to the discussion.
Thank you for your contribution
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Mar 2009 5:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Well, if you would use the dominican definition of race, then yes, it could be said that it's race baiting. However, were you to analyze the situation using the US "one drop rule", then the race baiting charge would be an absolute falsehood, as both populations are equally "black" under the one drop lens, the difference lying only in the fact that one population is kreyol speaking while the other is spanish speaking.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 5:10 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
Lautaro,
May our conversation serve as an example on how to conduct an intelligent argument. My sincere thanks; you have provided me with insightful opinions that will enrich my own.
Much respect to you, my friend.
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Mar 2009 5:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Likewise, my friend, likewise.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
jacirez I'll tell you what i'm going to do for you
i have to go to my brother's house in san carlos tonight ( abreu entre fco henriquez y carvajal y juan de morfa) after i'm done there i'm going to drive behind el mercado modelo en la ave mella then i'm going to grab one of your compadres overthere and i'm going to slap him around a little bit then i will apologize and say to him that i confused him con un tal Jacirez.
what do you think?
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 5:16 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario,
Oye, mi pana...
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
lo dudo
tu no va preso por darle par de pescoza a un haitiano
a lo mejor eso es lo que todo dominicano patriota como yo deveria hacer para poder limpiar el territorio de la plaga que nos azota.
este seria el slogan:
Si quieres ser buen ciudadano dale una pescoza a un haitiano.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 5:29 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario,
Shame on you...By the way, did not know that statiscally speaking 90% of the people living in the DR right now share a common ancestor with someone in Haiti...? You may be hating your own people, my friend...
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
really
waoo!!!! maybe that's why everytime i take a dump the turd looks familiar
from now on out of respect everytime i flush i will wave good bye to my haitian ancestors!
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 5:44 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
by old school trinitario "i have to go to my brother's house in san carlos tonight ( abreu entre fco henriquez y carvajal y juan de morfa) after i'm done there i'm going to drive behind el mercado modelo en la ave mella then i'm going to grab one of your compadres overthere and i'm going to slap him around a little bit then i will apologize and say to him that i confused him con un tal Jacirez."
sweettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthahahahahahahahaha
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 5:44 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario,
Such self-hatred...old_school_haitiano embrace your inner gaçòn (cocolo)...
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 5:45 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
jacirez you deserve some good slaping
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 5:47 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
vacanos,
You too, mon ami, embrace your inner gaçòn (cocolo)...
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
jacirez seriously dude, I don't hate all haitians my friend
only the couple of million in my country contaminating and africanizing my beautiful side of the island. But i like to ask you since you are such an intellectual mind, why is it that haiti is such a black hole, why is it that people like you that seen to be educated don't debate ways to pull your miserable country out of extreme poverty instead of wasting your time here calling me and all dominicanz racist.
please esplain.
Written by: Gizmo , 6 Mar 2009 6:02 PM
From: United States
Jacirez 90% of Dominicans don't have any haitian blood running through there veins stop the B.S., maybe 5% or 6% and those are most likely black Dominicans. The fact is the Haitian incursions in our side of the island created such an extreme hatred, that those people despised Haitians to such a degree that miscegenation was something seen as deplorable especially in the colonial period and non-colonial period where blacks were seen as inferiors. Even in the horrid 22 year occupation by Haiti people were not intermarrying Haitians, they were seen as merely blood thirsty invaders, and that's the truth.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 6:04 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
...On February 29, 2004, a rebellion culminated in a coup against the popularly elected president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The first elections since the overthrow were held on February 8, 2006 to elect a new President. Rene Preval was declared to have won with over 50 percent of the vote.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 6:04 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario,
I haven't spoken "ignorant" in a long while; but I'll try:
Haiti's regional, historical, and ethnolinguistic position is unique for several reasons. It was the first independent nation in the Caribbean, the first post-colonial independent black-led nation in the world, and the only nation whose independence was gained as part of a successful slave rebellion. Haiti is officially a presidential republic, although it is often claimed to be authoritarian in practice. Suffrage is universal, for adults over 18. The constitution was modeled after those of the United States and of France. It was approved in March 1987, but it was completely suspended from June 1988 to March 1989 and was only fully reinstated in October 1994.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 6:06 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
Political corruption is a common problem in Haiti. The country has consistently ranked as one of the most corrupt nations according to the Corruption Perceptions Index, a measure of perceived political corruption. In 2006, Haiti was ranked as the most corrupt nation out of the 163 that were surveyed for the Index. The International Red Cross reported that Haiti was 155th out of 159 countries in a similar survey of corrupt countries.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 6:07 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
Haiti has remained the least-developed country in the Americas. Comparative social and economic indicators show Haiti falling behind other low-income developing countries (particularly in the hemisphere) since the 1980s. Haiti now ranks 146th of 177 countries in the United Nations Human Development Index (2006). About 80% of the population were estimated to be living in poverty in 2003. Haiti is the only country in the Americas on the United Nations list of Least Developed Countries. Economic growth was negative in 2001 and 2002, and flat in 2003.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 6:09 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_trinitario, Gizmo,
You add all these factors together and you're left with an honest-to-god failed state. Pure and Simple...
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
good, good jacirez
you are not as retarded as i thought.
why don't you go to the forum home and open a new one with this topic.
Written by: jacirez , 6 Mar 2009 6:20 PM
From: Iran, Zähedän
old_school_Haitiano(trinitario),
Well, thank you, old_school_Haitiano. That's very kind of you...
Written by: etiennc, 6 Mar 2009 9:54 PM
From: United States
Roso ,
You thought that was an accident..
La manera de pensar del fuerte es siempre la mejor.
Now we can continue our usual acrobatics in futlity .Just remember to which foot is attached the toe that we want to step on ( Chinese Proverb).
We need to correct your tunnel vision and realize it is no longer in your hands.
Mucho viente y poco lluvia.
Somos actores en la pellicula tragicomica "El dialogo inutil"
Podemos ganar un grammy por mejores actores comicos.
Written by: josean, 6 Mar 2009 10:41 PM
From: United States
Pelegrin Castillo your not even half the Bum your father and Grandfather use to be!
Trujillistas sucios!
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Josean:
"But with big COJONES" that you don't have or will never have!!!!
From: Dominican Republic
This is an obvious consequence of the presence of illegal foreigners and unPatriotic businessman in DR. Watch out for those Haitian graduating from Dominican Universities! Those Haitian (educated in Spanish) are going to lower the salaries in medicine, law, communication, chemical engineering and chemistry, banking, and even industrial jobs will suffer wages erosion. Those Haitian sent more than $400 million dollar per year to Haiti as remittance (wealth transfer).
Everyone knows that the Haitian are here to displace the locals from land, jobs, and subsidies! Therefore, the poor with Dominican nationality should fight for their rights against the foreigners who are crowding out the locals from opportunities!
From: Dominican Republic
Haiti is not a race is a nationality! Therefore, racism is irrelevant in this case! We regard to races, before mankind learned to read, write, and talk with a language the human race has several human species (many have extinguished) of which Homosapien Homosapien is still here. Race is a survival adaptation characteristic brought by evolution and by sexual appeal.
Geographical isolation lead to races and so WE SHOULD NOT DESTROY THE RACES FOR THE SAKE OF HUMAN IDEOLOGY (MIXING UNTIL ALL RACES DISAPPEAR). RACE is an important human characteristic that may help humanity stand against challenges. Nature incurs diversity in every species to improve its chances of survival (ask the Praying Mantis). So DO NOT SUPERIMPOSE HUMAN IDEALS ON NATURE'S LAW! LIVE WITH IT!
From: Dominican Republic
Josean is a typical Haitian. His opinion are irrelevant! We must refocus our energy to regain DR now! The Haitian are expanding poverty in DR. The pain in Haiti is being transfer to DR! Simple! The poor with Dominican nationality should stand up and kick out the foreigners who steal their breath away!
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 11:45 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Esos haitianos estaban completamente marginados de la vida dominicana y el territorio por ellos ocupado era una extensión de la República de Haití. La moneda haitiana circulaba libremente hasta el pueblo de Mao y era aceptada por el comercio de Santiago, en el Cibao. En el sur la moneda circulaba hasta Azua. A pesar de los nuevos limites fronterizos, fijados en 1929, había zonas del país en donde la población no pertenecía a la República y era ajena a las disposiciones y leyes del Gobierno Dominicano. Inspirado quien sabe porque el Presidente de ese entonces Rafael Leonidas Trujillo viajo a Dajabón a principios de octubre de 1937 y allí pronuncio un discurso señalando que esa ocupación de los haitianos de las tierras fronterizas no debía continuar, ordenando luego que todos los haitianos que hubiesen en el país fueran exterminados
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 11:49 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
what the haitian doing now is childish what they tried with trujillo. back in 1936 haitian people extended their haitian territory all the way to central cibao. using their currency and everything. they were about to take over a good chunk of our land if not for tough ball trujillo. to this day they swear that from puente seco santiago belong to them. more than ever we need another one with ball
From: Dominican Republic
Vacano thanks for bringing a detailed description of life in Dajabon in 1937. Thanks to Trujillo we recovered Dajabon from the hands of Haiti! GOOD!
Written by: vacanos, 6 Mar 2009 11:53 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
trujillo speech in his honor in dajabon
For some months, I have traveled and traversed the frontier in every sense of the word. I have seen, investigated, and inquired about the needs of the population. To the Dominicans who were complaining of the depredations by Haitians living among them, thefts of cattle, provisions, fruits, etc., and were thus prevented from enjoying in peace the products of their labor, I have responded, ‘I will fix this.’ And we have already begun to remedy the situation. Three hundred Haitians are now dead in Bánica. This remedy will continue.
From: Dominican Republic
Haitian poverty and state failures are not excuses for the violation of Dominican sovereingty and to displace our people from our own land and our own economy!
So don't bring me statistics so that I can feel sorry for Haiti! That is your problem and I should not be the recipient of your problems! I got my own problems too!
From: Dominican Republic
CarlosFranco we hear you loud and clear!
Written by: vacanos, 7 Mar 2009 12:09 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
letrode
if not for trujillo from the cibao all the way to dajabon was in danger going to haiti. i can only imagine had they taken my beloved cibao how fast it would had taken them to turned it from green to yellow
From: Dominican Republic
Vacanos well said! Those termites are changing DR from green to brown and/or yellow!
From: Dominican Republic
Violence is the only language the illegal in DR understand! We must repeat 1937 since after 1937, the illegal did not dare to cross over without the Dominican Government permission!
Written by: bigdog12, 7 Mar 2009 1:00 AM
From: United States
Oh woe is me!
Go Get over yourselves dominicans
You talk about haitians like they are the putrid scum
If the haitians are in the sewer were are the dominicans
one level up in the toilet???
please spare the insults of the hatian people
haiti is thee poorest nation in this hemisphere guess who
is the second??? do u really need to talk about how poor and courrupt
that country is .
driving down the wages of what 100.00 dollars a month ?
I guess so there are tons of illegal dominicans here
and guess what like all the other illegals they are demanding their
legal residence law breakers just like the haitians but nobody
says nothing about that.
then when the US threatens to toss em out everybody screams
bloody murder Ive been to D.R probably 20 times in my life
and kids on the street will try to scam u out of your shoes!!
Just trying to eat right? well so are the haitians it amazes
me man cruelty to man
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Bigdog12:
take a hike frustrated Haitian!!!
Written by: generoso, 7 Mar 2009 10:24 AM
From: United States, DR
I agree Haitian-Fucú get packing! and point your big feet towards the west not the east side of the island. Or better yet swim to Cuba, I am sure Fidel will not welcome you there either!
Que se vayan los Haitianos!
Quisqueya para los Dominicanos!
Que se vayan los Haitianos!
Quisqueya para los Dominicanos!
Repeat every day 1000 times, call your radio stations, TV stations, newspapers, post in your car bumpers, send by internet, let's get these folks packing!
From: Dominican Republic
6/3/2009
Afirma que el 95% de trabajos los realizan haitianos
http://www.elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=142674 8:43 PM - SANTIAGO, 6 de marzo 2009.- Alrededor del 95 por ciento de la mano de obra contratada en la construcción y en las fincas agrícolas en la Republica Dominica es de nacionalidad haitiana, revelaron las autoridades de migración.
El subdirector de Migración, Juan Isidro Pérez, dijo que esa oficina da servicios a los extranjeros con la residencia normal o a los inversionistas que vengan al país a invertir capitales a los que se les da un trato especial.
That is why the Dominican can support a family with such a low salary and employers automatically hire illegal (without advertising this job to the nation). This displacement will continue to the middle class job (creole speaking bilinguals!).
Written by: buenoha, 7 Mar 2009 3:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Mr. Castillo I am happy you finally spoke out. I said exactly that in a thread on this form about 1.5 year ago.
Written by: Trujillo, 7 Mar 2009 7:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Pelegrin Castillo is the real deal, a nationalist. I wish I get to live long enough to see this man as our president.
Written by: Gizmo , 7 Mar 2009 7:57 PM
From: United States
Pelegrin Castillo if you become a presidential candidate you got my vote screw Leonel Fernandez he's to soft, we need to get rid of these haitians or we will lose our hispanic roots.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Let's promote a man like Pelegrin Castillo for president and get rid of the pro-Haitian president in Dominican Republic.
"Enough is enough"
Written by: kmnupe, 7 Mar 2009 10:41 PM
From: United States, NYC
It's funny that as much as many of you complain about the DR getting bad press, a bulk of it is coming right from this site perpetrated by YOU.
Can you imagine the astonishment and disgust some may feel when they read these posts?
Do any of you re-read your posts. Because, if you call yourselves decent beings and interact with people from various backgrounds everyday, you should really be ashamed of your hatred or pettiness.
There are many ways to dialogue without resorting to filth.
OLD SCHOOL TRINITARIO,
Proudly show your post dated mar 6 @ 5:42pm to everyone who respect you and get back to me with their reactions. I dare you.
You all may not be wrong about your views on this haitian thing, but you play dirty and people are watching.
Great job!
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Kmnupe :
Like letting your people to do as they please, preach your
BS diatribe to your people that pretend to be innocent pea
sants but act like wolfs preying in our country good faith.
Written by: Trujillo, 8 Mar 2009 12:19 AM
From: Dominican Republic
kmnupe, not everyone is afraid of not being politically correct. Plus I've seen and heard much worse things being said about latin americans in general on U.S. radio, t.v., and from people on the streets. You guys have racist groups in the U.S. like the KKK which not only talk, but have killed people and these groups are legal because your constitution protects their freedom of speech. Let the world watch. We're watching too, and it's pretty much screwed.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
km-dupe
I don't give a rat azz about what you and others frustrated Haitians like you think about me.
But you know what I'm not mad at you, I'm mad as hell with my own Gov for haitianizing my Republic for money, betraying all the principles in which D.R was founded.
Haitian & Dominicans are not the same we have nothing in common and never will.
Your shallow words have no meaning in this forum because everybody here knows that the reason Haiti is such a god forsaken country is because people like you, the educated elite that fled the island and never return to help their countrymen, you’re just another “Bébé Doc” Jean-Claude Duvalier.
Talking snits from the comfort of your b’klyn Penhouse. I don’t hide my views and I don’t care what the world thinks about it.
Be a good Dominican Today slap a Haitian in the face.
Written by: kmnupe, 8 Mar 2009 4:11 PM
From: United States, NYC
Again I repeat.
If you call yourselves decent people, tone down the language. If you prefer not to , by all means go sound off to the right people (or the wrong). Don't attack the messenger, challenge the message if you have an argument.
I'm sure your mothers taught you better.
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 4:26 PM
From: United States
Professor,
I am truly amazed at the company you keep!
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 4:57 PM
From: United States
Trujillo, 7 Mar 2009 7:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Pelegrin Castillo is the real deal, a nationalist. I wish I get to live long enough to see this man as our president.
Gizmo, 7 Mar 2009 7:57 PM
From: United States
Pelegrin Castillo if you become a presidential candidate you got my vote screw Leonel Fernandez he's to soft, we need to get rid of these haitians or we will lose our hispanic roots.
JRRubirosa, 7 Mar 2009 8:52 PM
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Let's promote a man like Pelegrin Castillo for president and get rid of the pro-Haitian president in Dominican Republic.
"Enough is enough"
I agree you three gentlemen should take out loans, second mortgages, use your credit cards to the max to make sure this neo-Nazi gets even less votes than Amable!
Trujillo-Campaign manager
Gizmo-Political Strategist
Rubi-Speech Writer
With you three luminaries he can't lose!
Written by: generoso, 8 Mar 2009 6:51 PM
From: United States, DR
josean
You never know. Dominicans just want Dominican Republic for Dominicans. We don't want to lend, lease or part with any portion of our territory. We are not Palestine to be divided up. Haitians have their country and they messed it up. That is too bad and it is THEIR problem not OURS.
We are playing unwanted hosts to millions of poor, sick and unemployed Haitians that were exported to us and are draining our resources and pulling us down. We have been nice enough hosts for years, it is time for action. Basta Ya!
Nothing wrong with being nationalistic and loving your country.
Verguenza contra los corruptos y vende patrias!
Written by: Lautaro, 8 Mar 2009 8:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
I wonder if josean would agree to the DR being transformed into a refugee camp just to appease the politically correct sensitivities of the people up north. Nobody should finger point us if we don't agree to their wanting to expiate their guilts from slavery with our country. Nosotros no tenemos (ni debemos de tener) ninguna f.....ing vela en ese entierro, ya que nadie invito a la RD o a los dominicanos cuando las elites haitianas y los "amigos de Haiti" (USA, Canada y Francia) se estaban dando banquete con la poca riqueza que quedaba en ese pais.
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 9:08 PM
From: United States
Professor,
What if the US felt the same way about us Dominicans as you guys feel about the Haitians?
All Haitians back to Haiti and all Dominicans back to Dominicana!
Written by: Lautaro, 8 Mar 2009 9:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
I wouldn't have any problems with that, josean. They're sovereign to do as they please with their territory, just as we should be in ours. Moreover, there's a difference in both cases, josean: on our case, US trade policies, along with their support for our elites, are the main culprits for the dominican migration to the US. On Haiti's case, as I told you before, the DR hasn't had a candle on that funeral, so we shouldn't being forced to pay for the broken dishes of the party that the elites and the foreign powers have had with that country. You're treating the DR as if it were an imperialistic power, when we're far from even being a middle income country.
Written by: Gizmo , 8 Mar 2009 9:41 PM
From: United States
Josean who told you are Dominican?
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 10:43 PM
From: United States
"Moreover, there's a difference in both cases, josean: on our case, US trade policies, along with their support for our elites, are the main culprits for the dominican migration to the US.'"
But to Dominican xenophobes and US xenophobes the differences that there might be are irrelevant, they both want the foreigners out period.
Written by: etiennc, 8 Mar 2009 10:45 PM
From: United States
At every turn you Dominicans and Haitians posters are at each other throats in this forum.
I was in the Dominican Republic and I saw the Haitians and the Dominicans aside from briefs and isolated incidents sharing their food.
I was a Petionville , Haiti I saw the Dominicans going about their business , speaking on Haitian radios, and in class rooms teaching Spanish to Haitians
The Haitian and Dominican leaders are taosting each other You ,in this forum are wasting valuable time exchanging childish insults .after gobbling you fatty hamburgers.
Reading your posts one will think that Haiti and Dominican republic are Hamas and Isreal.
If you hate each other so much why don ñt you meet somepalce and have a duel instead of barking at each other in this forum
it is always the same ones Rabirubi, le troudemierda,volcanos,Haitia as.hole no1
Written by: generoso, 8 Mar 2009 11:37 PM
From: United States, DR
josean
Illegal Dominicans are deported back instantly from the USA when caught, they are persecuted and have to
live in the subterranean cash world as long as they do not have papers.
They are economic exiles but they try to blend in, learn the language and respect the customs in the USA, they do not demand, displace Americans from jobs and beg in the streets like Haitians do in DR.
They are not crowding the health and education resources of the already poor like Haitians do in DR, we are not a rich country, there are many poor here as well. The US is a rich country that has traditionally exploited and benefitted from immigration. We have been invaded and exploited by foreign powers like Spain, France and the United States. We have been invaded and our population almost extinguished by the Haitian genocide conducted on us, by the murderous Haitian army.
So your comparison is lacking and bias.
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 11:46 PM
From: United States
Professor,
Try to convince your counter parts in the xenophobic American organized groups of those distinctions not me. They don't care, a foreigner is a foreigner and if they arrived illegally even more so.
Written by: generoso, 9 Mar 2009 12:03 AM
From: United States, DR
josean
I am not trying to convince anyone. Like Lautaro rightfully said every country has the right to enforce their own immigration regulations as they please.
But if you do not consider yourself xenophobic neither do I like being labelled xenophobic.
I don't dislike Haitians, I love Haitian culture, paintings, music, food, even their language and customs. Xenophobia is an intense dislike and/or fear of people from other countries.
So the term is not being used correctly by you as a description of my beliefs other than as a parrot
voicing some heard before accusation to put one in the defensive.
Written by: josean, 9 Mar 2009 12:09 AM
From: United States
Professor,
Does that fall into the category of some of my best friends are black?
Written by: Gizmo , 9 Mar 2009 1:09 AM
From: United States
Etiennc Ha Ha Ha you're last post is hilarious. Just because country's are not at war it don't mean that nations are at peace or don't have disagreements. Etiennc let me warn you, that if the poorest dominican citizen unfortunately finds himself or herself marginalized imagine an illegal haitian. Have you ever analyzed that mr. etiennc, have you ever paid attention to that reality sir. If you think that haitian illegals will climb the ladder of power in D.R. you're better off believing the story of the tooth fairy. Haitians are just going to be marginalized until they get tired of living in D.R. and move on somewhere else. Remember time is the enemy of the haitian people and the time will come when people are going to pick arms and say "BASTA YA PA' FUERA HAITIANOS!!!!! NO JODAN MAS."
Written by: Lautaro, 9 Mar 2009 8:07 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
josean said: "Professor,
Does that fall into the category of some of my best friends are black?"
No, because "blacks" are as usamerican as any redneck living on a backward village in the Appalaches, a thing that can't be said of the haitians living in the DR, which maintain themselves separated from the general population, be it by inability to conform to dominican customs or by choice. They're as foreigners to us as the european/usamericans that are living in gated communities all over the country, so stop trying to Jim Crow us already, would you? Your malicious comparison with southern (and northern) US racists simply just don't hold, unless you believe Leonel's assertion of our being a "Nueba Yol chiquito" (which would be mightily ironic and amusing in itself, seeing as how you have proclaimed yourself his sworn enemy time and again). The fact that we might be a little New York for the haitians fleeing their country in droves doesn't make us one at the end of the day.
Written by: generoso, 9 Mar 2009 8:46 AM
From: United States, DR
josean
The fact is that over 90% of Dominicans like it or not have traces of black descendants in their blood. That means you and me also.
This is a fact as much as that we have Taino blood in most Dominicans as well. We are a mixed race culture and can only feel racially supremacist by lack of information or cultural bias.
The issue is not to be confused by pulling the race card on Dominican patriotism. Haitians are discriminated against in mostly black islands throughout the Caribbean and are treated much worse than Dominicans and expelled swiftly and kept in jails under inhuman conditions.
As Dominicans we have tolerated and accepted the unarmed Haitian invasion as a charitable and most hospitable nation that we are, and the Haitians are paying us back in their desperation wanting to steal our land, rape our forests, take our jobs, stress our education and health facilities and give us a bad
reputation on purpose to hurt our tourism industry.
Written by: Gizmo , 9 Mar 2009 10:09 AM
From: United States
As long as D.R. keeps practically an open border policy the country will remain stigmatized by the international community and it all comes down to us unfortunately sharing the island with a country with a legacy of death and destruction. Haiti has brought upon itself a very negative image of unstable governance, civil unrest and extreme poverty. You can see it on programming as old as late 70's early 80's "In Search Of" in a short documentary about Haiti and Voodoo the host of the show Leonard Nimoy mentions the problems of said country as if he was talking of the state of present day Haiti. And that program is several decades old, Haiti as a nation has not changed and will remain in a quaqmire as long as the country remains a bastion of corruption. Another thing Generoso we are not 95% pure black like Haiti, we are a mixed country. Don't confuse the average Haitian with the majority Dominican, those 1.5 million Haitians are not the fabric of our society they are simply foreigners.
Written by: etiennc, 9 Mar 2009 8:04 PM
From: United States
I predict.
Year 2010
An strong Earthquake has splited the island of Hispanola into two seperate islands fortunatetly along the haitian Dominican border
All haitians (code words for black Dominicans) have left the new formed island of Dominican Republic island to establish themselves in the new formed island of Haiti
Gitzmo, Kmnupe.Vacanos,Letroudeballe.are so happy that start speaking in a strange tongue
sounds like a mixture of taino and Spanish.They are under psychaitric evaluation
General Roso the new head of the Dominican police has brought the Brugal company
Prediction has at least two things : Important and hard.
Important because we have to act
hard because we have to realize the future we want and what is the best way to get there
A prediction is valid if the prdicator is a knowledgeable person and employs accurate data.
A prediction can also be for entertaiment purposes if the predictor is just like etiennc un" chistoso"
Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! ha ! ha ! ha !
Written by: generoso, 9 Mar 2009 8:10 PM
From: United States, DR
I sure hope that when the island splits apart the whole island will stay underwater for just 5 minutes.
Then all those that can't swim will drown.
I have a question where is General Roso going to get the dollars to buy Brugal? If he was just recently appointed head of police, you need time for the "seeds" to grow. LOL.
etiennc stop drinking all that Brugal after 5PM, it doesn't go well with medicine.
Written by: Gizmo , 9 Mar 2009 8:16 PM
From: United States
Written by: Gizmo , 9 Mar 2009 8:25 PM
From: United States
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From: United States
Written by: Trujillo, 10 Mar 2009 1:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Campaign manager haha. I rather be president. BOO!
Written by: josean, 10 Mar 2009 3:20 PM
From: United States
Written by: Trujillo, 10 Mar 2009 1:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Campaign manager haha. I rather be president. BOO!
Mr.T,
Believe you could not do any worse than the Metro-Maniac we have now!
Written by: etiennc, 10 Mar 2009 3:20 PM
From: United States
Gizmo was it intellectual curiosity that has lead to investigate this site or are you scared d like hell and you are looiking for an amulet for protection.
Pow ! Pow ! Pow azi akoou dada doodoo akakakakbebeb dadeddi do doodoo
Look at him he is shitiing in his pants !
Coward !!!
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there is a conspiracy to unify the island
And dominican traitors are the hidden hand behind it.
I don't know about the rest of yall but i'm ready to take up arms.
yo no sabia que Benny Hill es Dominicano
compare to some weak And corrupted PLD goverment deputies.
The immigration law has been approved but the rules for enforcement have not been done because of the pressure from many powerful lobbies, including government, agricultural sections and construction moguls, and maybe even the Haitian big business and Haitian government representatives in DR that do not want the law to be enforced.
Many of you know me already and that i have been stressing this point since the begining of my time here at DT... Haitian immigration lowers poor dominicans wages and forces them to risk their lives at sea trying to reach the US economic zone.
and the horrible crimes they committed, and keep committing against their own people and Dominicans. Plus their tendency to live in a surreal fantasy world, typical of slave mentality and
just hoping for a Maná or savior to descend from heaven (or an airplane) and hand them to their waiting hands, great prosperity without them doing anything to help bring that about.
The US doesn't want the Haitians to come on boats, that is why they have a permanent US Navy patrol and blockade around Haiti to stop and send back any boats coming to the US.
They would rather have them keep coming to the DR, "the land of plenty", and want to somehow force us to accept them as citizens.
It is happening as we speak, and the scary thing is once they are here, they will NOT want to return, so we Dominicans think it is going to be easy to send them back. Wake up!
"...The presence of the illegal Haitian manpower, which I call an industrial reserve army, is what causes the salaries of the Dominicans to head downward and in complicity with the authorities’ indifference..."
Not race baiting...?
Jacirez i would like to break it down 4 you but i'm not good at spoonfeeding retards.
maybe lautaro or generoso can they're more patience than me
Wow! I'm impressed you can write full sentences now...Just remember, after a period, the first letter of the next sentence is capitalized; such that instead of "...you but i'm not good at spoonfeeding retards. maybe lautaro or generoso...", you should have written "...you but i'm not good at spoonfeeding retards. Maybe lautaro or generoso...". Also you should have put in a comma after the name Jacirez...
All in all very impressive. Maybe we will let you stay around when we (the grownups) are talking...ataboy.
Conceptions of race, as well as specific ways of grouping races, vary by culture and over time, and are often controversial for scientific as well as social and political reasons. The controversy ultimately revolves around whether or not the concept of race is biologically warranted (which I think it is not); the ways in which political correctness might fuel either the affirmation or the denial of race; and the degree to which perceived differences in ability and achievement, categorized on the basis of race, are a product of inherited (i.e., genetic) traits or environmental, social and cultural factors (i.e the bell curve).
Shhhh, growups are talking now...
"...that's what keeps the wages low for the common dominican trying to compete with an underpaid workforce. A practice that occurs in the four corners of the world, and at the same time is creating a class of extremely poor people versus a small class of extremely wealthy people..."
That was a rather insightful statement; which adds a lot to the discussion.
Thank you for your contribution
May our conversation serve as an example on how to conduct an intelligent argument. My sincere thanks; you have provided me with insightful opinions that will enrich my own.
Much respect to you, my friend.
i have to go to my brother's house in san carlos tonight ( abreu entre fco henriquez y carvajal y juan de morfa) after i'm done there i'm going to drive behind el mercado modelo en la ave mella then i'm going to grab one of your compadres overthere and i'm going to slap him around a little bit then i will apologize and say to him that i confused him con un tal Jacirez.
what do you think?
Oye, mi pana...
tu no va preso por darle par de pescoza a un haitiano
a lo mejor eso es lo que todo dominicano patriota como yo deveria hacer para poder limpiar el territorio de la plaga que nos azota.
este seria el slogan:
Si quieres ser buen ciudadano dale una pescoza a un haitiano.
Shame on you...By the way, did not know that statiscally speaking 90% of the people living in the DR right now share a common ancestor with someone in Haiti...? You may be hating your own people, my friend...
waoo!!!! maybe that's why everytime i take a dump the turd looks familiar
from now on out of respect everytime i flush i will wave good bye to my haitian ancestors!
sweettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthahahahahahahahaha
Such self-hatred...old_school_haitiano embrace your inner gaçòn (cocolo)...
You too, mon ami, embrace your inner gaçòn (cocolo)...
only the couple of million in my country contaminating and africanizing my beautiful side of the island. But i like to ask you since you are such an intellectual mind, why is it that haiti is such a black hole, why is it that people like you that seen to be educated don't debate ways to pull your miserable country out of extreme poverty instead of wasting your time here calling me and all dominicanz racist.
please esplain.
I haven't spoken "ignorant" in a long while; but I'll try:
Haiti's regional, historical, and ethnolinguistic position is unique for several reasons. It was the first independent nation in the Caribbean, the first post-colonial independent black-led nation in the world, and the only nation whose independence was gained as part of a successful slave rebellion. Haiti is officially a presidential republic, although it is often claimed to be authoritarian in practice. Suffrage is universal, for adults over 18. The constitution was modeled after those of the United States and of France. It was approved in March 1987, but it was completely suspended from June 1988 to March 1989 and was only fully reinstated in October 1994.
You add all these factors together and you're left with an honest-to-god failed state. Pure and Simple...
you are not as retarded as i thought.
why don't you go to the forum home and open a new one with this topic.
Well, thank you, old_school_Haitiano. That's very kind of you...
You thought that was an accident..
La manera de pensar del fuerte es siempre la mejor.
Now we can continue our usual acrobatics in futlity .Just remember to which foot is attached the toe that we want to step on ( Chinese Proverb).
We need to correct your tunnel vision and realize it is no longer in your hands.
Mucho viente y poco lluvia.
Somos actores en la pellicula tragicomica "El dialogo inutil"
Podemos ganar un grammy por mejores actores comicos.
Trujillistas sucios!
"But with big COJONES" that you don't have or will never have!!!!
Everyone knows that the Haitian are here to displace the locals from land, jobs, and subsidies! Therefore, the poor with Dominican nationality should fight for their rights against the foreigners who are crowding out the locals from opportunities!
Geographical isolation lead to races and so WE SHOULD NOT DESTROY THE RACES FOR THE SAKE OF HUMAN IDEOLOGY (MIXING UNTIL ALL RACES DISAPPEAR). RACE is an important human characteristic that may help humanity stand against challenges. Nature incurs diversity in every species to improve its chances of survival (ask the Praying Mantis). So DO NOT SUPERIMPOSE HUMAN IDEALS ON NATURE'S LAW! LIVE WITH IT!
For some months, I have traveled and traversed the frontier in every sense of the word. I have seen, investigated, and inquired about the needs of the population. To the Dominicans who were complaining of the depredations by Haitians living among them, thefts of cattle, provisions, fruits, etc., and were thus prevented from enjoying in peace the products of their labor, I have responded, ‘I will fix this.’ And we have already begun to remedy the situation. Three hundred Haitians are now dead in Bánica. This remedy will continue.
So don't bring me statistics so that I can feel sorry for Haiti! That is your problem and I should not be the recipient of your problems! I got my own problems too!
if not for trujillo from the cibao all the way to dajabon was in danger going to haiti. i can only imagine had they taken my beloved cibao how fast it would had taken them to turned it from green to yellow
Go Get over yourselves dominicans
You talk about haitians like they are the putrid scum
If the haitians are in the sewer were are the dominicans
one level up in the toilet???
please spare the insults of the hatian people
haiti is thee poorest nation in this hemisphere guess who
is the second??? do u really need to talk about how poor and courrupt
that country is .
driving down the wages of what 100.00 dollars a month ?
I guess so there are tons of illegal dominicans here
and guess what like all the other illegals they are demanding their
legal residence law breakers just like the haitians but nobody
says nothing about that.
then when the US threatens to toss em out everybody screams
bloody murder Ive been to D.R probably 20 times in my life
and kids on the street will try to scam u out of your shoes!!
Just trying to eat right? well so are the haitians it amazes
me man cruelty to man
take a hike frustrated Haitian!!!
Que se vayan los Haitianos!
Quisqueya para los Dominicanos!
Que se vayan los Haitianos!
Quisqueya para los Dominicanos!
Repeat every day 1000 times, call your radio stations, TV stations, newspapers, post in your car bumpers, send by internet, let's get these folks packing!
Afirma que el 95% de trabajos los realizan haitianos
http://www.elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=142674
8:43 PM - SANTIAGO, 6 de marzo 2009.- Alrededor del 95 por ciento de la mano de obra contratada en la construcción y en las fincas agrícolas en la Republica Dominica es de nacionalidad haitiana, revelaron las autoridades de migración.
El subdirector de Migración, Juan Isidro Pérez, dijo que esa oficina da servicios a los extranjeros con la residencia normal o a los inversionistas que vengan al país a invertir capitales a los que se les da un trato especial.
That is why the Dominican can support a family with such a low salary and employers automatically hire illegal (without advertising this job to the nation). This displacement will continue to the middle class job (creole speaking bilinguals!).
"Enough is enough"
Can you imagine the astonishment and disgust some may feel when they read these posts?
Do any of you re-read your posts. Because, if you call yourselves decent beings and interact with people from various backgrounds everyday, you should really be ashamed of your hatred or pettiness.
There are many ways to dialogue without resorting to filth.
OLD SCHOOL TRINITARIO,
Proudly show your post dated mar 6 @ 5:42pm to everyone who respect you and get back to me with their reactions. I dare you.
You all may not be wrong about your views on this haitian thing, but you play dirty and people are watching.
Great job!
Like letting your people to do as they please, preach your
BS diatribe to your people that pretend to be innocent pea
sants but act like wolfs preying in our country good faith.
I don't give a rat azz about what you and others frustrated Haitians like you think about me.
But you know what I'm not mad at you, I'm mad as hell with my own Gov for haitianizing my Republic for money, betraying all the principles in which D.R was founded.
Haitian & Dominicans are not the same we have nothing in common and never will.
Your shallow words have no meaning in this forum because everybody here knows that the reason Haiti is such a god forsaken country is because people like you, the educated elite that fled the island and never return to help their countrymen, you’re just another “Bébé Doc” Jean-Claude Duvalier.
Talking snits from the comfort of your b’klyn Penhouse. I don’t hide my views and I don’t care what the world thinks about it.
Be a good Dominican Today slap a Haitian in the face.
If you call yourselves decent people, tone down the language. If you prefer not to , by all means go sound off to the right people (or the wrong). Don't attack the messenger, challenge the message if you have an argument.
I'm sure your mothers taught you better.
I am truly amazed at the company you keep!
From: Dominican Republic
Pelegrin Castillo is the real deal, a nationalist. I wish I get to live long enough to see this man as our president.
Gizmo, 7 Mar 2009 7:57 PM
From: United States
Pelegrin Castillo if you become a presidential candidate you got my vote screw Leonel Fernandez he's to soft, we need to get rid of these haitians or we will lose our hispanic roots.
JRRubirosa, 7 Mar 2009 8:52 PM
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Let's promote a man like Pelegrin Castillo for president and get rid of the pro-Haitian president in Dominican Republic.
"Enough is enough"
I agree you three gentlemen should take out loans, second mortgages, use your credit cards to the max to make sure this neo-Nazi gets even less votes than Amable!
Trujillo-Campaign manager
Gizmo-Political Strategist
Rubi-Speech Writer
With you three luminaries he can't lose!
You never know. Dominicans just want Dominican Republic for Dominicans. We don't want to lend, lease or part with any portion of our territory. We are not Palestine to be divided up. Haitians have their country and they messed it up. That is too bad and it is THEIR problem not OURS.
We are playing unwanted hosts to millions of poor, sick and unemployed Haitians that were exported to us and are draining our resources and pulling us down. We have been nice enough hosts for years, it is time for action. Basta Ya!
Nothing wrong with being nationalistic and loving your country.
Verguenza contra los corruptos y vende patrias!
What if the US felt the same way about us Dominicans as you guys feel about the Haitians?
All Haitians back to Haiti and all Dominicans back to Dominicana!
But to Dominican xenophobes and US xenophobes the differences that there might be are irrelevant, they both want the foreigners out period.
I was in the Dominican Republic and I saw the Haitians and the Dominicans aside from briefs and isolated incidents sharing their food.
I was a Petionville , Haiti I saw the Dominicans going about their business , speaking on Haitian radios, and in class rooms teaching Spanish to Haitians
The Haitian and Dominican leaders are taosting each other You ,in this forum are wasting valuable time exchanging childish insults .after gobbling you fatty hamburgers.
Reading your posts one will think that Haiti and Dominican republic are Hamas and Isreal.
If you hate each other so much why don ñt you meet somepalce and have a duel instead of barking at each other in this forum
it is always the same ones Rabirubi, le troudemierda,volcanos,Haitia as.hole no1
Illegal Dominicans are deported back instantly from the USA when caught, they are persecuted and have to
live in the subterranean cash world as long as they do not have papers.
They are economic exiles but they try to blend in, learn the language and respect the customs in the USA, they do not demand, displace Americans from jobs and beg in the streets like Haitians do in DR.
They are not crowding the health and education resources of the already poor like Haitians do in DR, we are not a rich country, there are many poor here as well. The US is a rich country that has traditionally exploited and benefitted from immigration. We have been invaded and exploited by foreign powers like Spain, France and the United States. We have been invaded and our population almost extinguished by the Haitian genocide conducted on us, by the murderous Haitian army.
So your comparison is lacking and bias.
Try to convince your counter parts in the xenophobic American organized groups of those distinctions not me. They don't care, a foreigner is a foreigner and if they arrived illegally even more so.
I am not trying to convince anyone. Like Lautaro rightfully said every country has the right to enforce their own immigration regulations as they please.
But if you do not consider yourself xenophobic neither do I like being labelled xenophobic.
I don't dislike Haitians, I love Haitian culture, paintings, music, food, even their language and customs. Xenophobia is an intense dislike and/or fear of people from other countries.
So the term is not being used correctly by you as a description of my beliefs other than as a parrot
voicing some heard before accusation to put one in the defensive.
Does that fall into the category of some of my best friends are black?
Does that fall into the category of some of my best friends are black?"
No, because "blacks" are as usamerican as any redneck living on a backward village in the Appalaches, a thing that can't be said of the haitians living in the DR, which maintain themselves separated from the general population, be it by inability to conform to dominican customs or by choice. They're as foreigners to us as the european/usamericans that are living in gated communities all over the country, so stop trying to Jim Crow us already, would you? Your malicious comparison with southern (and northern) US racists simply just don't hold, unless you believe Leonel's assertion of our being a "Nueba Yol chiquito" (which would be mightily ironic and amusing in itself, seeing as how you have proclaimed yourself his sworn enemy time and again). The fact that we might be a little New York for the haitians fleeing their country in droves doesn't make us one at the end of the day.
The fact is that over 90% of Dominicans like it or not have traces of black descendants in their blood. That means you and me also.
This is a fact as much as that we have Taino blood in most Dominicans as well. We are a mixed race culture and can only feel racially supremacist by lack of information or cultural bias.
The issue is not to be confused by pulling the race card on Dominican patriotism. Haitians are discriminated against in mostly black islands throughout the Caribbean and are treated much worse than Dominicans and expelled swiftly and kept in jails under inhuman conditions.
As Dominicans we have tolerated and accepted the unarmed Haitian invasion as a charitable and most hospitable nation that we are, and the Haitians are paying us back in their desperation wanting to steal our land, rape our forests, take our jobs, stress our education and health facilities and give us a bad
reputation on purpose to hurt our tourism industry.
Year 2010
An strong Earthquake has splited the island of Hispanola into two seperate islands fortunatetly along the haitian Dominican border
All haitians (code words for black Dominicans) have left the new formed island of Dominican Republic island to establish themselves in the new formed island of Haiti
Gitzmo, Kmnupe.Vacanos,Letroudeballe.are so happy that start speaking in a strange tongue
sounds like a mixture of taino and Spanish.They are under psychaitric evaluation
General Roso the new head of the Dominican police has brought the Brugal company
Prediction has at least two things : Important and hard.
Important because we have to act
hard because we have to realize the future we want and what is the best way to get there
A prediction is valid if the prdicator is a knowledgeable person and employs accurate data.
A prediction can also be for entertaiment purposes if the predictor is just like etiennc un" chistoso"
Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! ha ! ha ! ha !
Then all those that can't swim will drown.
I have a question where is General Roso going to get the dollars to buy Brugal? If he was just recently appointed head of police, you need time for the "seeds" to grow. LOL.
etiennc stop drinking all that Brugal after 5PM, it doesn't go well with medicine.
From: Dominican Republic
Campaign manager haha. I rather be president. BOO!
Mr.T,
Believe you could not do any worse than the Metro-Maniac we have now!
Pow ! Pow ! Pow azi akoou dada doodoo akakakakbebeb dadeddi do doodoo
Look at him he is shitiing in his pants !
Coward !!!