Bull crap. These spin doctors are paid shysters.

The homes they are speaking about have to have iron bars on ALL the windows and doors. It is like living in a jail.

Dominicans are inbred with entitlement. They think they are entitled to any of your possessions including your life. They are taught all foreigner are rich and they can afford it, so take it.

Case in point. Imagine what they think they can do to foreigners?

"Juan Ortiz, of Dominican origin, was sentenced to five to 18 months in prison for beating his son with a wooden banister as a punishment for a handful of thefts, which he claimed is acceptable in his native country."

low prices give me a break, i just bought a house in Florida about 359,000 and reason was that the prices in dr are equivalent to those in Florida it shouldn't be that way. I look at the real state in DR and is not worth it, if you weight the pros and cons it best to stay in the state, crimes, corruptions and kidnappings is not worth moving to DR, beside trying to set a business there oh my God it is a joke, everyone is out to get a piece of you.

gmiller u r soooooooo on. I have a couple here w/ me who two months ago completed their retirement house in the north, house photos look like they built the north coast prison main quarters. The bastards still attacked them and took everything that can be transported on a motor. Couple was tied,gagged and now have thier house on the market at $20,000 less then it was built 4. The area was told to them was safe especially with all the security they had and the area had hired at $150 us a month per house. You get all the deals you want in the North, just don't live there, best to rent out your investment and like this govt. pass the problems to someone else!

Steviewonder, you are correct. I also forgot the money that i was going to spend to build a fortress and on watchmen, what a crap.

HAHHAAHA. Unless you can afford gated community I would never recommend a foreigner to buy anything in DR. You will most likely be robbed and when you call 911 watch what will happen. Also you can buy same size and beach proximity properties in Florida now for less money than in DR. With the DR economy rapidly turning for the worse, it only means one thing, more crime. It takes a lot of money for a stranger to be safe in DR.

As usual all the negative yokels online! To the moderator please shut the commentary section on these articles. The yokels are making our nation look bad!

LOL. Yeah, swipe the dirt under the rug and let's all put our rose-colored glasses on and pretend everything is great.

SOSUA? That is not the real DR... Could it be Les Calvert is a paid promoter? Les may have also forgotten to announce all the downfall to the incredible prices in SOSUA? Poor Elec., many low-life extranjeros, Largest Sex Industry in the DR, corrupt Police, need I continue ? Don't mean to offend anybody in Sosua, there are some good folks there.

Juan,
There are more prostitutes in La Romana than Sosua...

Everyone here has said it all but I just want to add that the quality of construction is poor at best and if you want good finishing work make sure you bring in somebody to do it because in the DR the poor Haitians are given the job that they aren't skilled or given the tools to do, just exploited by the contractors. Try getting a Contractor to redo shoddy work, -good luck. Plan on rebuilding your property after the closing. What is acceptable in standard in the DR is totally unacceptable else where except Haiti maybe.

Synapse,
Do you need a real Dominican construction company that does not use Haitians??? If so, let me know. They build hurricane proof type buildings.

Bars on the windows- that is where the USA is headed - just wait and watch - 57 dead from rage gun killings in one week.... just a start - way above the lever per capita of the ....

How safe is it for foreigners to buy properties in the DR. Excluding gated communities, of course.

Build it and they will come ,right ? lol .. oh yeah , the great visionaries have built the town of (so sewer ) up to be like a future Disney resort town for fat dirty old sex tourists and now they cant even sell one lamp shade of it ..Serves them right .. Maybe these greedy capitalists will find solstace using thier empty under priced condos to house all of the Haitian refugees that they hired to built them . lol lol lol .

The DR real estate business is a cash business. Much of the recent construction is laundered money, as local mortages and construction loans are few and far between (too expensive). The targeted buyers of all the new construction in the DR are not sitting on loads of cash, credit is tight, and job security is dropping quickly(globally). With this outlook, places in the DR are NOT selling now, and as long as the negative influcences increase (crime &corruption), sales will continue to be stagnant. There are places that have been on the market over 2 years with very little activity, if any. US citizens that took loans against their HELOCs or 401Ks are in deep trouble, and if they are among the unemployed , they are screwed. The DR real estate markets will continue to be DOA, till 6-8 months after the world markets begin their recovery. That is yet to be seen.

My question was about the physical security of the buyer. I'm a 35 year-old civil and environmental engineer. I would like to become a building consultant in the Caribbean (preferably in the DR). If I make the move and bring my young family, are they going to be safe?

Yes cabaretewilliam, that is an unfortunate sign of the times. Desperation/depression makes people do crazy things at times. The same will happen in the DR (and all other civilized countries). When families cannot feed their children (unemployment + increased cost of basic necessaties), you will see the same sort of activities, there in the DR, mainly affecting the city/barrio dwellers Spousal abuse will probably increase 50-100% in the next 6-8 months. Be very careful on the streets of the major cities, especially when leaving casa de cambios, ATMs, and banks. You are targets moreso now than ever.

sabio, make certain you have a firm employment contract or consulting job prior to making the move. DO NOT bring your family, till you have personally been there at least 90-120 days to evaluate the situation for yourself. That would be my opinion, for what it is worth. It all depends where you will be working/living in the DR, but for the most part my advice stands unchanged.

Believe me Sabio , I lived in the D.r for two years and never had any problems whereever I went . In fact , I felt safer there than I do living in Philadelphia or Miami .. Trust God and Go for it ! I ve learned to live with failure but i will never be able to live with failing to try and ''what ifs ''.

I will be working in the Bavaro/Punta Cana/Cap Cana area. I remember seeing a place called "Pueblo Bavaro" on the road to another place call "Cruce de Veron". It looked like a gated community. Also, I liked the area near the airport. What about there areas?

Username, Ofcourse things are bad for you're types that live in places like Capotillo. You guys are who i'm talking about YOKELS LOL.....

Sabio,
You should be ok arould the Punta Cana area. I find that Santiago is pretty nice. If you are going to conduct business out there, I recomend that you carry a hand gun in your SUV at all times. Actually I recommend that you carry a hand gun at all times while you are doing business.

Unless you are a permanent resident or a dominican citizen, you cannot obtain a permit for a firearm. That is the law. If you are caught with a firearm and no permit, it will be very costly, for you (as an extranjero). I advise, do NOT BREAK THE LAW !

He can become citizen within 6 months of owning property out there. Also, if a family member(Dominican Citizen) has a legal hand gun, he can add you with your US Passport number, that you are allowed to carry the hand gun.

That is not how I understand it (the gun law). I have lived there since '78 and left 6 months ago. sabio, just make certain before you do anything. Dont buy your permit for the local coronel or general ! They are not valid, and you will only lose you money & gun. If you don't have a job set up already and plan to seek employment, take lots of money to live on , as you will go through it quickly.

You might want to consider renting differant condos before moving into an area. By staying somewhere for a month, you can see what is going on in that area.

Juango,
Dominican cops hardly ever search your vehicle. You can pretty much have an illegal gun with no problem. Its risky but its done daily

Funny thing is I feel safer here than in the US

I live in Cabrera now but lived in Sosua for 10 years and never had a problem. Petty theft is all over the world in case you all didn't know it::)

I still have 2 condos and a farm and for the most part trouble free in Sosua. Sure there are a lot of prostitutes but this is a country of prostitutes. It is like the national passtime. More in Santiago and Santo Domingo than Sosua for sure. What the hell did you think all those cabanas were for? Jajajaja

As far as the prices in the Dr go it sure as hell is a lot cheaper than the other islands which are worthwhile and I wouldn't want to live in the "worthwhile" islands anyway. So YEAH I think it is still a good deal and I am still trying to buy here under market. I have also made large profits in the last 3 years and I can't say tha

Escott,
LOL a national passtime... There are alot of cabanas in Santiago, they are nice because you can park your SUV inside of the little garage and no one knows that you are in there.

Written by: Bailarin, 9 Apr 2009 4:24 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Believe me Sabio , I lived in the D.r for two years and never had any problems whereever I went . In fact , I felt safer there than I do living in Philadelphia or Miami .. Trust God and Go for it ! I ve learned to live with failure but i will never be able to live with failing to try and ''what ifs ''


Exactly - safer here than in Canada!

Cabarete,
Try not to live in the ghetto parts of Philly and Miami.

Theft is everywhere. There are lots of break in in residential neighborhoods, in the western part of the Estates they even break your car windows to get your make up case, right in front of your house or driveway. That is why many people have home alarms in USA. Everyone I know has an alarm, and why is that? or they have dogs.

Housing is not affordable in the DR. Only in barrios are cheap because of the high crime rate. The banks are charging 15% and more of interest on mortgages. That is too high. I can get a better deal in California.

Anyone who compares DR and US or Canada crime-wise is crazy. Just read DR1 and see how many people are getting robbed on daily basis. People who live from Sosua to Santiago to Punta Cana, and as people are loosing jobs it's only gonna get worse. How many mom and pop stores in US/Canada have armed guards on their payroll? Not many. Here, every business has an armed watchman.

extranjeros moving to the DR must understand they are leaving the world they knew and should plan on joining the " Extremely Tolerant Pioneers Club " or you will be disillusioned quickly in the DR look for the rewards and overlook the hassels

Wow!
You guys make it look like the DR = Somalia
Thank you for opening my eyes...

You do not need a gun. We live in our small Hotel Casa Blanca in Cabarete for two years and walk all over town, day or night, no worries. The DR has already learned to cope with secutrity issues. The USA will have riots and huge problems when Hussein Obama's plans fail. They are alredy training some100,000 soldiers to take over the cities affected. The LA riots over one verdict is nothing compared to what is coming to the USA - get out if you can - or get ready.

cardboard condo salesman from cheeseball cabarete exaggerates doomsday scenario ...it must be the religious holidays have him in a trance Willy please chill out fighting with those guys on the forum has cooked your thinking process .anyway whatever this article should give you an idea of what is going on in the Super rich real estate markets like the Vineyard and Nantucket and the Hamptons as well as summer rentals .....read carefully and think Casa de Campo and Beach Club Punta Cana and properties to rent in Cap Cana These kind of folk will only see Cabarete when flying over it hahaha.... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10....esanddestinations/10hamptons.html

what thinking process? my dog has more brains than this fool. Hussein Obama, indeed. see how low this creature seeks to go? conveniently uses the Hussein in order to associate him with a known onsavory type. there is a bus leaving for Saskatoon at 2pm; be under it!

Mr Dreadlocks that particular insult is copyrighted by GC do not go into plagiarism like your buddy the slobbering dog

Its amusing to listen to all these points of view. Properties in all the nicer areas was being sold to foreigners at New York prices for years. They even list the prices in US dollars for heavens sake. SInce the decline in home sales prices have gone down in the US considerably but not in the DR. There is a reason for this and it is not that their economy is doing so much better. Its that most people never financed those properties because the interest rates are too high.

You are able to find plenty of fire sales if you are on the island and physically looking because of people trying to leave.

People say well the taxes are cheap. They really aren't for what your getting. First the infrastructure sucks so you must buy inversor or planta which must be maintained. Streets are horrible so your cost in vehicle maintenance and repairs is much higher.

And lets not forget the corrupt politicians and police who require money to do their jobs. This also costs money.

Veronica my dear are you giving up your membership in the " Extremely Tolerant Pioneers Club " and are you leaving your Dominican dream behind Always remember " "ILLEGITIMI NON CARBORUNDUM EST" and press on regardless

my apologies, Toxic Avenger. the exhortation seemed so appropriate, i could not help myself. just a little correction; the statemete should read ILLEGITIMATI, not ILLEGITIMI. have a great holiday season. ever though of changing your handle to Radioactive Avenger?

Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Apr 2009 8:59 AM
From: United States
what thinking process? my dog has more brains than this fool. Hussein Obama, indeed. see how low this creature seeks to go? conveniently uses the Hussein in order to associate him with a known onsavory type. there is a bus leaving for Saskatoon at 2pm; be under it!


Ah, child, check it out- Hussein IS HIS NAME!!!!

Written by: ToxicAvenger, 10 Apr 2009 9:26 AM
From: United States, Angola prison Louisiana
Mr Dreadlocks that particular insult is copyrighted by GC do not go into plagiarism like your buddy the slobbering dog


Look, we all know that Dreadsie has a thing for me - he cannot stand it that so many times he has been blown out of the water and proven wrong - his pride has been hurt, poor child, so resorts to the only thing he is able to do and do poorly at that - childish insults rather than points....

President Obama is the best thing that has happened in the US in 100 years.

He has been handed a piece of shit economy and is intelligent, creative and energetic enough to make it right.

If there are trailer trash riots in the US, I am sure he will handle them in the best way possible.

cabaretewilliam stay in Cabarete because when the riots start there, NO one will be helping you.

cabaretewilliam aren't you the guy people on DR1 have called "loser, low-life, liar..."? They say you are nothing but a punk lair who is trying to survive by scamming other people. They say you should go back to your "church" and pray to sell a few of your "real estate" properties. LOL. BTW, How is your fight with tripadvasor.com going? I hear they are purposely withholding good reviews of your "5 star" establishment? LOL.

Crime is low in many parts of the DR. There are frequent police patrols in areas used by tourists.
Just as in US there are areas where all property is shuttered at night, others were fronts are open, glass evident.
Property is low priced and much is well designed. Values are increasing. The natural environment is kept well and zoning prevents unsightly developments for the most part - recently a 4 story construction was demolished because there is a limit of 2-3 stories. Electricity is seldom a problem - there are many solar/wind installations and 'green' lpg gas generators are easily available, The climate in many parts of DR means that neither heating or AC is necessary - a 20 watt fan is sufficient. Supplies of local food are abundant. For those of non US citizenship Florida, if it is needed to stay a long time, involves a dance with the immigration dept.
These guys are often not sod friendly.
S.

whenever Mr Dreadlocks is taking a beating they say he will always resort to dealing the slimy race card off the bottom of the deck

I advise anyone with means to get out to the USA. Obama said a 1.3 Trillion deficit was terrible when Bush ran it. Obama is now running a 11 TRILLION deficit as a good thing - and it will not be paid off - Obama will print money and your dollar will be on par with PESOS - you guys are fools trusting a fool....you have no idea of what is coming. Some reader may want to know more. Here is a 3 part article that tells you what is coming your way!

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1....-part-1?source=article_sb_popular

The rest of you can go on in blissful ignorance following the emperor with no clothes!

Mr abc comes across as another time share salesman talking lunacy of increasing values and great security in tourist areas His hallucinations have no explanation other than drugs or alcohol or sales quota

Written by: Username, 10 Apr 2009 10:55 AM
From: Dominican Republic
cabaretewilliam aren't you the guy people on DR1 have called "loser, low-life, liar..."?

No, I am the guy who has 100% of his clients as friends, even years after they bought through me. I can give you their names and numbers! Unilke "username" in hiding. The whole DR1 thing invovled one of my hotel guests who skipped out owing $860. The police picked him up and he had to pay. He was pissed that he had to pay and he vowed to do everything possible to destroy me (real nice USA chap) and so he went on DR1. Big deal. In one year I went from zero to being the top selling agent in my office - left after a year - set up my own office where we have a higher ethical standard.

Mr Dreadlocks please address me as Toxy let us be informal Shall I call you Mr Dread ?

BTW, How is your fight with tripadvasor.com going? I hear they are purposely withholding good reviews of your "5 star" establishment? LOL.


Again - typical of forums - like CNN - worst place to get news - the ONLY review they ever blocked is one written by that scam loser who did not pay his bill! Two years ago Casa Blanca was 37 out of 38 hotels. We took over and it is now #1 in our catagory. I do credit my lovely and gracious wife - she is often mentioned in the reviews -as she runs the place.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUs....e_Dominican_Republic.html#REVIEWS

Happy Easter everyone. abc200...a 20w fan? Like everything in life, there are many sides/views to the same picture. Electric power is a problem everywhere in the DR where there is NOT a private electric utility (then, it becomes extremely expensive $0.30-0.45usd/kwh). Best wishes to all... and remember what Rodney King once said..." can't we all just get along"...

abc200 is at it again!

"The natural environment is kept well and zoning prevents unsightly developments" LOL LOL LOL!

"Electricity is seldom a problem" What planet do you live on?

"AC is necessary - a 20 watt fan is sufficient" In Costanza maybe, but this is relative from person to person.

"[Florida]...involves a dance with the immigration dept." Not really.


When was the last time you was in DR and for how long you stayed?

Are all the people ye louse or what... Tell me, somebody wants to live in the USA...??? For what... People always complain, nobody is happy... live only goes on with 10 creditcards... I am living here for 5 years now !!! And feel good in every way. You just do not move to another country to buy cheap real estate dummies!!! You move to another country because it fits you...

I agree, and in the case of the DR, you can find villas condos at half the price you would pay in on any other Island :)

Please willy no more sales pitch for your cardboard condos you are getting like Mr abc

Hmm, cardboard - we use cement around here - maybe you should study a little before spouting....

Also Toxicity, this thread is about real estate - if that bothers you go back to your cell...

figure of speech they are cheeseball whatever quit peddling your cheesy wares on an intellectual with many exceptions site I know business is bad but do not torture the forum with your shtick

badges? we no need no stinking badges, come down lets talk it over. who say a dead gringo is a good gringo?

Please call me Toxy it is much less formal Willi

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_....a_Dominican_Republic.html#REVIEWS
S.

Been in DR for some time.
Americans walk or ride miles along the beach and go on trails in the hills and the remarks are always positive. Zoning is very strict - there are few unsightly buidlngs.
Friends who live in areas where there are electricity interruptions spend 1000 dollars and have a batttery, charger/alternator, generation set. Same as is needed iin many parts of the US and other countries. LPG powered generators are easily available as are solar panels.
Many of the million dollar villas are without air-con and visitors remark positively how nice it is without ac. Samana and many other zones have climates without excessive heat. US visas - the net is full of people with problems. Time share - do not sell.
http://www.amlife.us/visa.html
Investors in DR properties are now finding they have made excellent investments at a time when many shares are trading at 10% of value. Properties are actively managed and popular with tourists.
S.

Mr abc goes to the bong once again Dont drink the bong water this time Mr abc

Just because you missed the chance to buy a nice condo at the Aliesi 4 years ago at 160,000 and invested in Citibank! They don't even pay a dividend!
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_....a_Dominican_Republic.html#REVIEWS
S.

abc200: "Many of the million dollar villas are without air-con..." Show me one please! It does not exist.

: cabaretewilliam, is Casablanca next to that beachfront Sematary? Im not trying to crack jokes, but im just wondering were exactly its located, and that's only place i can think of ?

This is the one im talking about
Cementerio de Cabarete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiYSkGIcJsM
the video starts showing the sematary after the 1 minute mark.

They do for sure. phone the agents - three of my friends live in such villas. There is always a beautiful breeze.....
S.

Mr Time2rise this film made me think of the famous line from the " Loved One " by Waugh spoken by the blessed reverend of Whispering Glen Cemetery when he said " I Gotta get these stiffs off of my property " as he wanted to build condos there

Written by: ToxicAvenger, 10 Apr 2009 12:52 PM
From: United States, Angola prison Louisiana
Mr Time2rise this film made me think of the famous line from the " Loved One " by Waugh spoken by the blessed reverend of Whispering Glen Cemetery when he said " I Gotta get these stiffs off of my property " as he wanted to build condos there
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LOL i did not watched that movie, but sounds like a comedy movie, im going to see if i can find it online.

Nobody invests a million dollars into building a villa and builds it without A/C. Nobody.

They do....... A friend is making his villa available for 1 million absolutely beautiful...... huge open pool / covered lounge area. Always a breeze...... Take a trip sometime. Another has twin villas for 1 million .... same - glorious but no ac.
Fan not a/c.
http://www.drlistings.com/home/pr....lla+in+las+terrenas+for+sale.html
1,150,000
Villa from Tony, see pictures
S.

People come to DR to escape US poverty and A/C!
S.

This villa would be worth 10 million in california!
http://www.beachagent.com/homes-for-sale/index.asp
So wise people come to the beautiful DR beaches to take advantage of a unique procurement opportunity with a hugely enhanced lifestyle in the most beautiful part of the caribbean!
S.

Written by: time2rize, 10 Apr 2009 1:16 PM
Mr Time2rise this film made me think of the famous line from the " Loved One " by Waugh spoken by the blessed reverend of Whispering Glen Cemetery when he said " I Gotta get these stiffs off of my property " as he wanted to build condos there
LOL i did not watched that movie, but sounds like a comedy movie, im going to see if i can find it online......the book is an original classic and the film was considered in 1963 the biggest piece of black comedy ever produced .You tube has a cut of Rod Steiger and one of Liberace selling coffins....the film was a huge flop because in 1963 it was way over the top...but it is a classic ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oymjPBjYLQ&feature=related

cabaretewilliam characterised by people on DR1 as a loser, a lowlife, and a liar. hmmm... i see you are not hiding your light under the bushel, willie. unanimity in condemnation, i see. and, gmiller, please do not encourage him to stay in cabarete. how about suggesting somewhere like Banff? i have seen a lot of nut jobs in this site, but this guy sets a low bar for despicability. by the way, willie, did you clear those blankets from customs yet? did they get a clean bill of health? cholera check ok? and yes, i do admit that i have it in for you; as we say in Brooklyn, i have it right here! seems like you do not have too many admirers. the skunk that crashed the party. and when are you going to have some common decency and pay for your advertising, instead of glomming off the forum? you are the poster boy for irresponsible parenting.

Ok, 2nd one on my "skip his posts" list.

abc200, adios and enjoy your hugely enhanced lifestyle, with or without A/C.

Cabaretewilliam is also some sort of a religious cult leader? Not sure why but majority of DR1 posters seem to have very negative opinion of him.

Thanks for 411 ToxicAvenger, ill check it out.

There was this couple that had been married for 20 years.
No Mr Dreadlocks this man is the posterboy for irresponsible parenting...

Every time they made love, the husband always insisted on shutting off the light. Well, after 20 years the wife felt this was ridiculous.
She figures she would break him of this crazy habit. So one night, while they were in the middle of a wild, screaming, romantic session, she turned on the lights. She looked down and saw her husband was holding a battery-operated pleasure device... A vibrator! Soft, wonderful and larger than a real one. She went completely ballistic.. 'You impotent bastard,' She screamed at him, 'How could you be lying to me all of these years? You better explain yourself!'
The husband looks her straight in the eyes and says calmly:


'I'll explain the toy. . You explain the kids."

Please call Toxy Mr time2Rise

Mr Username you are mistaken that is Arsenio and the Inquisitor who are the cult wackos Cardboard Condo Willi is a garden variety Baptist not even Southern Baptist

But hey you guys correct me if I am wrong I thought the DR had freedom of religion to go with freedom of the press Are you guys going to string him up or something ?

Yes Mr Dreadlocks he was not responsible or he was irresponsible He even had a big car and a new suit cause he said if I am going to be impotent then I am going to look impotent

Username writes;

Cabaretewilliam is also some sort of a religious cult leader? Not sure why but majority of DR1 posters seem to have very negative opinion of him.

not sure? have you ever read this guy's "insights"? he thinks he is the Messiah on earth, holding things down until Christ returns. he is everything they say about him; he is a liar, a loser, and a lowlife. dishonest as the day is long, and short on principles. all other religious sects are phonies, except his. his religion is the only true one. by the way, this is the guy who suggested to me in the forum that i should be happy that slavery existed, otherwise i would be somewhere in Africa today. (an asinine idea, of course, but intelligent to him). now you see why he is universally despised?

Mr Dreadlocks takes charge of the mob maybe he can round up a few others to assist I have seen this movie before

Toxic, from all appearances, the mob had assembled long before i showed up. this guy is putrid, and his odor follows him wherever he goes. i just wish it would be back to some rat hole in winnipeg.

Please Mr Dreadlocks call me Toxy the other way sounds so ugly

yes I see your position Christian conservatives should be barred and banned from the site or worse

we have lived in Luperon, DR for over 4 years and have never felt safer anywhere in the world. Sure, we have bars on the doors and windows, but so what... Just to keep the dishonest, honest. We have walked the streets of many towns, and have never, ever felt threatened. Viva DR

actually, Jacirez, he prays for the day when those things eventuate in the USA. then himself and his group of right wing avengers can beat their chests and say "see, we were right all along. we always said that they were not up to the task. we give them the job, and they do not have what it takes to get it done".

hey , Toxy; when i used the term "avenger" in my last post, it had nothing to do with you. nothing whatsoever.

Is it possible that prophet William has mistaken DR for Guyana when he booked his plane ticket?
(some of you won't get this, some will)

my sentiments exactly, Username. it is not too late. he can still head off to Guyana. nobody here will miss him. i will help plan his farewell party, and make sure all the party favors are in place. whether or not Guyana will let him in is another story

we call all join cw's death cult, wait for the poison the ascend to see st.michael at the pearly gates.
actually he is wating for the call when us starts ww 3 to go in the trenches then go ovet the top in glory into a cloud of gas singing onward christain soldiers so he can see his redeemer - all the time living his life for the right to teach children christian fairy tales and murdering numerous persons along the way and the odd near fraud or two to raise money for Jesus, sorry to feed his SUV.
S.

ok username go and buy the place in california - miss out the opportunities in the DR. If you can work out a way to bribe congress to issue a few million visas you could be a a biilionaire like madorf. You could go solar in US.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/200....owered-city-in-flor_n_185683.html
S.

Mr abc are you sure you are not a little jealous of willi after all he owns a hotel and actually sells something from time to time you are a wanna be blind squirrel looking for your first acorn and you live in the box someones refrigerator came in or so I have heard from people who live in that neck of the woods but I could be misinformed

ABC allows

we call all join cw's death cult, wait for the poison the ascend to see st.michael at the pearly gates.
actually he is wating for the call when us starts ww 3 to go in the trenches then go ovet the top in glory into a cloud of gas singing onward christain soldiers so he can see his redeemer - all the time living his life for the right to teach children christian fairy tales and murdering numerous persons along the way and the odd near fraud or two to raise money for Jesus, sorry to feed his SUV.
S.


did you not know that by his own admission, willie boy is here to do good works for underprivileged natives? the fact that he sells a few million dollar condos along the way is just incidental. oh, yes, Saint Willie is here to save the souls of those sinners who believe in decadent thinking like evolution, and that the earth is round.

ignorant and misinformed..............
S.

Written by: time2rize, 10 Apr 2009 12:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic
: cabaretewilliam, is Casablanca next to that beachfront Sematary? Im not trying to crack jokes, but im just wondering were exactly its located, and that's only place i can think of ?


No. Magnifico surounds the cemetary.....they sell for $350K and up

yes, i do admit that i have it in for you (Dreadful Locks)


poor sod... :)

The last 30 or so post are proof positive that forums are a pooling of ignorance - and most do not even know that.... what a laugh!

The last 30 or so post are proof positive that forums are a pooling of ignorance - and most do not even know that.... what a laugh!

Jacirezoff -thanks - you proved my point!

Why is it that most articles have to be bombarded by the same posters, insulting DR...??

It's ok to state an opinion, but then bashing everyone that disagrees?
Why are they even posting on this site?
I really think people should start using that spam feature...seeing that the admins are not taking such an interest on it.

So if someone states his opinion, and that opinion is that DR has a crime problem and it is only getting worse you take that as an insult? I state my opinions, and currently my opinion is, DR is not a very safe place for many people. I for one, would never advise my parents to come to DR and spend their retirement years here, unless it is a well protected gated community. That is just my opinion, without insulting anyone. Every house has a prison-like bars on all doors and windows and every store has an armed guard, i wonder why?

Mr username Ms puntacanalife is a real estate peddler and she has never seen a real estate thread on DT wit this many posts some of them negative and she says that the negative ones should be deleted and only the bright and shiny stuff remain ......I think thats what she means

pond scum willie, i hear that Guyana is , or can be, rather picturesque at this time of year. you might want to get yourself a deal on kool aid at La Sirena, and busy yourself with packing your bags and heading that way. do not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. we have enough headlines in the DR as it is. so, spare us further misery and do not pass go, do not collect 200, go straight to Guyana.

Mr dreadlocks please stop trying to conceal your feelings tell us how you really feel Don't hold back Willi beat you like an Iraqi prisoner on the economic stuff Mr dreadlocks .You should consider saying something forceful but polite to get this frustration off your chest

Good advise - but what you are asking of Dreadsie is impossible for him....

willie could not beat his pillow on economic issues. he knows nothing beyond what he reads from some right wing hack on some David Duke website. he knows how to save money, i will concede, since it is his stock in trade to beat the websites out of the few pennies they require for advertising. the guy is lower than a pregnant snake, and it is no surprise that all these negative things are said about him on other sites. oh, i apologise, willie. your detractors are all mistaken. you are really a prince of a fellow, but are surrounded by misfits and malcontents, who cannot see your true spirit of decency. NOT! i say we all chip in and buy him a one way ticket to Guam.

So if someone states his opinion, and that opinion is that DR has a crime problem and it is only getting worse you take that as an insult? I state my opinions, and currently my opinion is, DR is not a very safe place for many people. I for one, would never advise my parents to come to DR and spend their retirement years here, unless it is a well protected gated community. That is just my opinion, without insulting anyone. Every house has a prison-like bars on all doors and windows and every store has an armed guard, i wonder why?

There are a huge number of stores wihout armed guards. There are many retiree living in DR without problems. There are many gated communities in US with armed guards for those retirees who chose this in the US. In Atlanta statistics are that about 1 in 10 citizens will be victims of crime in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Spain is safer .....
http://www.spain-tips.com/ar/news/is-it-safe-to-live-in-spain.shtm

comparison with US here:
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty..../namerica/dominican_republic.html
S.

Property prices are low and are anticipated to increase 15% in 2009.
http://www.propertyindex.com/HS1511458/Villa-Del-Mar/100/
S.

If you ever encounter a crime problem in the USA (and many other countries) you have a system that usually works smoothly. File a police report, insurance, medical care, etc. In the DR, it is a LUCHA to get the police to take your report (that is if they can write or find a pen and paper/log book, as the PC does not work or no electric), Forget calling your insurance company (you will have to chase them down), if you are outside of a major city your medical care is very limited. RE Tax Laws are about to change/enforced in the DR, which will make it less attractive for extranjeros to own RE in the DR.

Mr Juango be very careful or the real estate peddlers will all jump on you and string you up for negativity They are trying to make a living and do not like rain on their parade " Caveat Emptor " and due diligence is what these snow birds who come to the Caribbean will never learn .Read the book " Dont stop the Carnival " it is the handbook for people who want to move to this part of the world

Kind of urban myth - police do act and recover property. Also take reports. As in many developing countries most people are self insured. Over 10 years or so this often works out cheaper - e.g. in London property contents insurance can run to 500 dollars per year. With sensible precautions - e.g. a 200 dollar alarm system and good locks losses are nowhere near this in DR. Air ambulances are on regular call and can get you to a good hospital from one of the numerous airports in DR or from the beach. Much the same as in US or Canada. Only way quicker is helicopter - but coverage of US / Canada is very limited. If you have a reason to be worried there are helicopter services in DR and some houses/hotels/villa complexes have heliports.
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Definitely, I think that there two reasons, why the reporter says that Dominican Republic is a good place to buy real state:

One, he has some properties to sale.
Two, he must be smoking something very good. His judgment has been affected. Do not get me wrong, I am Dominican myself, but seeing such a report is an offence to anybody who has some type of common sense.

At this moment properties in Florida are cheaper to buy and at least they offer you in infrastructure around your investment. What is going on in Dominican Republic is nothing else, but a real state bubble, just my opinion.

Just the FACTS, Toxy! That all. Don't want to pee on anyones parade, but truthful expressions or opinions are always valid and welcome. btw, abc200 the link of Villas del Mar, looks nice, but none of the photos are of Samana Bay. Map indicates they (Villas del Mar) are in the Sanchez area (which is a dump, my opinion only). If they are not bulit already, just be careful, they may never get built. btw when was your most recent extended stay (>45 days) in the DR, abc200?

Mr abc is a serial exaggerator not to put a fine point on it Some would even call him a Bushu artist under the influence His veracity on many subjects has proven to be nil but he continues to shovel it regardless

Anything ocean front in florida in high amentity area will set you back minimum 1/2m.
Plus maintenance, taxes etc. No, much of the DR is a bargain.
http://miami.condo.com/ForSale/Un....States/Florida/Miami-Beach-Condos
Plus the problems of visas, international travel etc.
But pk must prefer the Miami turnpike and airport to Santo Domingo and the road to Samana.
Intrastructure is crumbling in US. And will get worse.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11304375@N07/2300995727/
Don;'t forget the evavcuations - hurricane record 9 times worse than DR.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-....o/2005/09/20/PH2005092000705.html
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Police do take reports but want propina to do anything. In their eyes you are a rich gringo and why would they care you got your 90.000 RD plasma TV stolen? You can buy another one! They are making 5K a month, trust me they don't feel sorry for you one bit. Unless you got somebody to push your case the report will be in the garbage can as soon as you leave the office. Like Public Enemy say: 911 IS A JOKE!

Construction has started. Yes, this is only illustrative of the new developments finding international buyers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-....o/2005/09/20/PH2005092000705.html
It is some way from Sanchez but near the major international airport.
http://www.worldwideinvestments.co.uk/villa-del-mar-location.htm
You are right any buyer should be cautious and do due dilligence.
but this development is a fraction of the price in other caribb islands.
The evidence of all the development puts a lie to the other posters claims.
Watch the video and comment.
http://www.worldwideinvestments.co.uk/dominicanrepublic.htm
I am settled in the DR.
S.

Mr abc like the babbling cut and paste mentally challenged bushu artist continues

All the posters refuse to accept that reasonable prices are causing waves of new investment to strike the shores of the DR in preference to other places in the world.

Nicely done video, unfortunately the photos are NOT of Samana Bay. They are all pictures of Playa Rincon, Portillo/Las Terrenas/Cozon and a far away Golf Course (all oceanfront). The promotion is misleading for Villas del Mar is on Samana Bay. The Bay is not a crystalline Caribbaen blue boday of water, it is turbid, greenish brown (depending on the Yuna River flow who outflow is the Samana Bay). Come on, abc...don't mislead the folks. Upon completion the project may sell, but no way should one expect a >15% increase on your investment. That is false ! Not very ethical.

I will be surmising the scene in LT soon when I come visit Residents not peddling or desperately trying to sell their investments paint a different picture than the Booming real estate market you conjure up in your vivid and alcohol induced imagination also not very ethical Mr abc gives new meaning to the words not very ethical.Possibly he was a timeshare salesman in UK

There is not an 18 hole Golf Course within a 1 hr drive of the Samana Penn. Playa Grande located near Rio San Juan, is the nearest, and that one is said to be going Private ($$$) in the next 1-2 years.Yes, the DR is still a bargin compared to most Caribe Islands, although each Island has it own charm and value. Most of the Samana Penn. has the poorest electrical service on the Island. The Private Electric Co. that services only LT/Portillo and Las Galeras area is very good for Dominican standards, but also the most expensive rates in the Americas.

I am not representing this company. - however just illustrating real estate available. A new road is being constructed linking Las Terrenas with its developing 18 hole course. Also a course is under development in Nagua.
The waters along this stretch of coast are blue and there are many developments in this area. Electric service is not so important. Most people are just watching their properties steadily appreciating and having a wonderful lifestyle. Some choose just to spend the winter months in the Caribb - returning to Europe for the summer season.
I just try to explain why there is so much new investment.
S.
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To SabioRosa....I live in Punta Cana Village , which is across from Punta Cana International Airport and this is probably the safest place in the DR , Pueblo Bavaro is not bad ,but Cruce de Veron I would not recomend. Punta Cana Village is run by the Punta Cana Group and there is state of the art security here.The Village has banks, restaurants ,shops,supermarket...if you need more info go to jackmarproperties.com , the lifestyle is great !! i WOULD NOT CHANGE IT FOR ANYTHING!!!

have another Jumbo and a hit on the bong relax and wait for the bursting bubble of the booming real estate market and then by cheap not today it has to go down much more People who live in LT are like the passengers on the Titanic assuring each other there will be enough lifeboats

Mr gustavo you practically live in another country compared to Las Terrenas Samana Las Galeras and Sosua Cabarete While Punta Cana is a well planned by Dominican standards project the realization of a great dream of The Raineri Group and Bravo for them they lead by example

Written by: pkaide1, 11 Apr 2009 9:05 AM
From: United States
What is going on in Dominican Republic is nothing else, but a real state bubble, just my opinion.

No, as long as the DR is half the price of all other islands, and as long as we have 85 MILLION baby boomers starting to retire now - and 10 million of them plan of the "dream" of moving to a caribbean isalnd, this is not a bubble, but the opposite! Maybe when those 85 million all die off the prices here will go down, but first expect a 100% increase unitl we are tied with other islands...

but no way should one expect a >15% increase on your investment. That is false ! Not very ethical.
Juango

Hmm, we have had 20% increases in Cabarete for the past five years - that is history - now it will be leveled off until the world economy is back on track - then we will be back to 15-20%. Nothing unethical about telling people what has been happening, as long as you tell clients this is no guarantee it will happen next year. Almost all who buy pre-construction make 20% by the time they take delivery.

www.caribbeanrealty.ca

Wishful thinking. I know some people how are selling RE in Cabarete/Sosua and over the past 6 months they sold zero. They are surviving off of the rent commission. The RE market is dead. Not many retirees buy here. Once they find out how the EMS is here, 911 and so on, they look elsewhere.

We are far from out of the woods and the doomsday scenario you paint for the USA willi is curtains for everybody everywhere I see decline and resurrection { not tomorrow } in late 2010 or early 2011 or so says the Magic 8 Ball

Cabaretebill....sorry, needed to clarify my statement a bit....>15% in one year, 2009 , their ad is claiming (18%)... watch the video and read their ad. That is what I was referring to, as being unethical. Appears to me like the ad was written by Tourism Minister Javier Garcia with LF himself assisting (smile). This is my view only. There are good values to be had in the DR, but not in the traditional coastal/beach areas.

You are all stupid, I bought pre - construction in Spain and made 50%.
Good chance for eveyone.
S.

Mr abc has the box a refrigerator came in for sale at a good price would you be interested it comes with some amenities like a bottle opener

Mr abc got lucky on a cement box in Torremolinos during the Franco years now he is talking like he is a speculator like the Donald

Poor guys - I just explain why there are waves of investment due to the exceptional value and the wolfpack descends. Many people cannot move to US due to the stupid US governments visa restrictions - they are crazy with 14m empty homes they should give out visas like confetti - and arizona hasn't got any beach. so why move there?
The undiscovered jewel of the Caribbean is rapidly being discovered and in addition to residence opportunities for seniors and others there is huge business potential with many new businesses taking off. Prices are steeply ascending and people living in the DR have an enviable lifestyle with a huge range of amenities.

Prices are still a fraction of US, other Caribbean islands or much of Europe. At a time when perhaps demand is not so frantic the opportunities abound.

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abc is right on all points. The sour grapes people can just stay where they are, sit back and watch people here make money while enjoying the life! Check back in 5 years!

Not true do not sell RE, timeshare stop repeating your nonsesne.
I have no desire other than to spread the truth and stop the spread of lies and deception by other posters.
S.

Like most decent people I have only respect for people who respect the truth and if they make a genuine mistake offer the most humble aplogies.
S.

YOUR CONFESSION I have no desire other than to spread the truth and stop the spread of lies and deception by other posters.
S.teverino you should have called instead of being a cry baby

The coast near the international airport has huge development potential. Towns like Sanchez are part of this and will benefit from investment.
Property within 15 minutes of an intertnational airport always attracts interest and in particular the coasline of Samana bay is beautiful with a backdrop of glorious hills and mountains. There are many fine hotels in the area.
Still the poster is entitled to his opinion that the RE company promoting this development is guilty of deception - if so he should take it up with them. I do not think they are and cited it soley as an example of the type of project of interest to investors wishing to expand their international property portfolios.
S.

Do we have other compulsive liers on this board apart from Toxic......
http://www.ehow.com/how_2086429_s....ium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art
S.

Someone needs to send a copy of these comments to Mr. Les Calvert.

abc200 says: "Property within 15 minutes of an intertnational airport always attracts interest and in particular the coasline of Samana bay is beautiful with a backdrop of glorious hills and mountains. There are many fine hotels in the area."

abc200...where do you come up with this crap. there is absolutly nothing within 15 min. of El Catey Airport. Only the town of Sanchez, located on the nastiest part of Samana Bay. The nearest hotel/lodging is in the Las Terrenas area, about 45 min away (min.). Much of that is small hotels and B&B. The only decent coastline of the Samana Penn for the beach crowd, is the North Coast of the Samana Penn., not the Bayside, south coast of the Samana Penn. Villas del Mar is on the Bayside, correct?

Please stop the story telling. There is very little activity or construction in the area. The economy has affected this area, much like it has everywhere else.

This area is to some extent 'undiscovered' this is part of its charm -development is carefully controlled by an extensive system of permits. But the natural beauty of the Samana area is outstanding and will increasingly attract discerning travellers. The Bay side has many developments although not as many as the Atlantic side.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_....Peninsula_Dominican_Republic.html
http://www.bahiaprincipeusa.com/b....tel-samana/hotel-information.html

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MR abc says " This area is to some extent 'undiscovered' " this is putting it mildly .When they give the enema to the Samana Peninsula this is where they will put the hose

Now is the time to join the international investment community and take advantage of the outstanding value the area offers. There are numerous flights to the new El Catey international airport and the whole level of amenity of the area is being upgraded. Los Haitises National Park
is a big attraction,
http://www.colonialtours.com.do/Englishhaitises.htm
S.

abc200, both properties in your links above are OLD Hotels, but recently (in the last 4 years) remodeled resort. They are Dominican State owned properties, but leased to the Pineiro Group of Spain (Bahia Principe Hotels). These 2 resorts have operated at less than desireable occupancy rate, since their inagurations. One has only operated for a total of 5 months, since it was remodeled over 3 years ago, due to lack of traffice/reservations (Gran Bahia). btw these are located at the mouth of Samana Bay where it joins the Atlantic Ocean. At the opposite end of Samana Bay from Sanchez.
Also very little actual development is happening in that area. The Vistamare condo property (Felucho Jimenez) is behind secedule by over 1.5 years, still not open. Puerto Bahia Samana has yet to deliver product to buyers, to the best of my knowledge. Yes there is good value in the DR, but not in beach areas !

It is not exceptional for projects to be a lttle. late. I travel from Sanchez to Las Galeras and much is happening. The whole road is being upgraded and there are numerous developments. The area is a mecca for yacht owners and an increasing number of cruise liners visit.
S.

I do agree, the Samana Pennisula is probably the most naturally beautiful region in the Caribbean. It is a paradise of scenic beauty. I am a believer that random development will only detract from this natural beauty, as seen by what is there now. I have known the area over the past 30 years. It is following the wrong path regarding development and it has lost much of its charm, although remains beautiful.

If DR GOV ever got itself and the country in order then this truly would be a paradise. Now it is far from it. How many retirees are looking forward to being stopped by the cops and harassed for no reason? Not many. How many are OK with the idea if one gets a heart-attack he better have someone to drive him to the clinic because ambulance will not come? Or if one gets robbed and calls the police they will just laugh at him? Anyone who is presenting DR as in the same category as St. Marten, Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Barbados... is simply lying to himself and the others! There is a reason DR is so much cheaper than the mentioned! You will save on RE price but you will loose on other fronts. If RE prices where based just on location, climate and beaches then Mogadishu is the best deal in the world right now. Go live there and save big on RE. Who cares about the social climate, security, EMS, health-care...

Retreats in the green-swathed hills are also increasingly popular and represent one the outstanding investment opportunities in today's world. Sensibly modeled they blend with the enviornment and the systems are in harmony with nature. Moments of opportunity can pass all too quickly....
S.

UN this is not true - I have never be harassed by police in four years. There are excellent ambulances and hopsitals and many doctors trained for emergency operations. Robbery is rare. When it occurs, for example when a scooter was stolen, there was a massive response and the perpetrators rapidly caught.
S.

Written by: abc200, 12 Apr 2009 3:18 PM
From: United Kingdom
"UN this is not true - I have never be harassed by police in four years. There are excellent ambulances and hopsitals and many doctors trained for emergency operations. Robbery is rare. When it occurs, for example when a scooter was stolen, there was a massive response and the perpetrators rapidly caught."

Sr. abc, You must not have been in the Dominican Republic (eastern part Hispanola) for the past 4 years or have never left your hotel room....What you have written above, is totally false (untrue). You have lost your credibility with me upon writing the statements above. Yes indeed, there are a handful of good hospitals in SD and 1 or 2 in santiago. That is it. You are not being truthful. Goodbye & Happy Easter.

The good thing is nobody takes abc200 seriously anymore.

I will send you a photo of the ambulance. Also the emergency clinic equiped to carry out stabilisation and operations including, for example gall bladder removal.
Aero domca operates air ambulances with 1/2 hour service from many parts of DR to Santo Domingo. Seems you chose somewhere equivalent to Watts in the States. Daily crime map US style:
http://www.spotcrime.com/pa/philadelphia
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DR is equivalent to the Watts in the Caribbean. (Jamaica being the New Orleans.)

UN everyone is happy with local medical service. Including US - ex-pats here. Actually of course with the lifstyle in the DR - good execrise, healthy food, the suns rays the chance of needing intravention is low. One ex-californian here in his late eighties says he never felt healthier.

S.

You are too much. LOL. No matter how hard you try you can not spin the reality. Have you ever been to a public hospital here? A kid i know of broke his arm playing baseball and his mom had to buy everything, including the cast and everything else at a private pharmacy, they had nothing there in the hospital. This was at POP. You need a reality check and i hope nobody falls for your BS and buys whatever it is you are trying to push.

If you got money to subsidize for the things the GOV fails to provide, even they should, security - you can buy in a gated community and be safe, health-care - you can use private clinics, education - private schools, fair unbiased justice - you can have VIPs on you payroll/connections, then DR is OK, if you are planning to come here and live off of your Social Security checks, look somewhere else, or live like some ex-pats do, in a rented studio without much possessions, everyone will know you are broke, have nothing, and then nobody will bother you.

Written by: abc200, 12 Apr 2009 4:26 PM
From: United Kingdom
UN everyone is happy with local medical service. Including US - ex-pats here. Actually of course with the lifstyle in the DR - good execrise, healthy food, the suns rays the chance of needing intravention is low. One ex-californian here in his late eighties says he never felt healthier.................Mr abc lifestyle consists of about 10 jumbos and 2 or 3 beepers of rum a couple of bong hits then reality is always far away When pestering tourists to buy into his cheeseball timeshare deal he tries to appear sober to no avail.....his organ donor card is no longer up to date ...this is what they call going to seed in the tropics

Once was treated in emergency in public hospital for minor injury needed 2 stitches. Seemed OK.
Yes, private consultations are better at between 500 - 1000 peso. I keep a couple of phone numbers handy of local ambulance, doctors etc. and a couple of hundred dollars or local bank card and credit card in case of problems.

Certainly a social security cheque from Zimbawe or somewhere won't go far. If you buy a place and have no rent five dollars a day - 180 pesos is a sensible minimum per person. Some manage for less but they seem to eat rice and beans and more rice and beans and wear scondhand clothes after a while. Some hunt for coconuts, octopus etc. It is of course easy to grow tomatoes, cucumber, beansprouts etc.

Yes, of course the prophetic song written in 72 has come to pass:
"
Bye-bye, Miss American pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee, But the levee was dry. And them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye.
"
Chevys may be no more and the boys are in the DR drinking Presidente's and rum after leaving the dry levees of the US of A and its bankrupt economy.
http://www.waterinfo.org/water-shortage?page=2



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Do not - repeat do not sell timeshare or RE. UK has a good government and will rapidly recover - Cheers! or as they say in Germany - Prost!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rziprdaE_SI
Not a rabid anything ---------- just saving the planet from the US evil empire! My mission is to spread the truth and only the truth.

S.

Your truth, or the real truth? What you have been spreading here in utter lies and non-sense. First you need to get in touch with the reality then write about it.

UN - maybe you should desist - you are out of time, out of touch. US people like it so much they are starting businesses - went to celibration last night. Perhaps you should keep your crazed notions to yourself.
S.

You are making less sense than Imus. Anyway, i just hope people don't fall for your BS and buy the time-share or whatever it is you are pushing.

(My last post in response to you. Adios.)

UN you have lied so many times though your back teeth they have probably fallen out by now. You don't know a lie from the truth. happiness score is high in DR. Sounds as if you you should have brain transplant!
Cuban doctors with the same qualifications as the ones here easily register in the US and other counries. DR medical school is recognised. And I don't push anything except a pleasent lifestyle.
S.

ABC offers

Kind of urban myth - police do act and recover property. Also take reports. As in many developing countries most people are self insured. Over 10 years or so this often works out cheaper

what does "self insured mean, ABC? HOW DO YOU SELF INSURE AGAINST LIABILITY EXPOSURE? you should try to stop overpowering the sane things you say with numbskull remarks like this. the reality is that in the DR, automobile insurance is imaginary. try to collect from the insurance company of some guy who hit you. and yes, the fact that just about any reader can cite me an example of someone whom he or she knows who got a fair settlement, proves my point. automobile insurance in the DR is a 19th century enterprise, by any competitive standards. for example; apply for collision insurance, and they only need to know the cylinders of the car. six cylinders pays more than four! but, if i have a six cylinder car, and i have had my license for 35 years,

If you own a car for example in the DR or UK you have to have third party insurance. This is low cost and pays out for injury, death of third parties. The other elements of insurance are you causing damage to a third party vehicle, theft etc, someone causing damge to you. If you self insure you take the risks on yourself and it is convienient to have an interest paying savincs account so money is handy in the case of an incident. In the UK is is common for families with say 10 memebers to club together and self insure. Inusrance is a wasteful exercise that rips off the conusumer and is wide open to fraud - so the DR way of doing things has its merits.
In the UK some large organisations self-insure - e.g. fleets of vehicles, buildings etc.
S.

Before all DR is the best destination in the caribeean including male and female prostitution.drugs and more .Sheep prices are very attractive .

Wao!! It seems to me there are lots of you conspiring to bring DR business down and give us. With friends of DR like you who needs enemies.

ABC, stay away from commentary on insurance, because it appears you are very limited in that regard. in every country with vehicular traffic, liability insurance is mandatory. some guys let their policies lapse for non payment, but that is not self insurance. the reason that you are not allowed to insure against third party exposures is because you might not have the assets to compensate the aggrieved party. if you work at Walmart, and you plow into a 2009 Bentley, where does that leave the other guy? besides, you cannot self insure a car which is bought on terms, because the creditor has to be assured that his asset is safe. if you have no insurance, and you owe the bank 20,000, how do they collect when you go on an agricultural expedition and hit down a few trees? what is to stop you from not making further payments on the loan?after all, you have no incentive, since you just made mincemeat of the machine!