Santo Domingo. - The Israeli company APT Ltd (Aquaculture Production Technology), which groups projects in Honduras, El Salvador and Belize to raise tilapias, stated its interest in entering the Dominican market to export that type of fish in the United States.
APT said it has identified conditions unique to Dominican Republic, to develop environmentally and socially sustainable leading edge aquiculture, to competitively export fresh fish fillets to the US and European markets.
“This evaluation is based on our considerable years of experience in this field and in numerous countries,” said APT representative Juan Carlos Franco Ayala.
The size of the industry in Dominican Republic could reach approximately 50,000 tons annually within a few years, with an initial export value between US$80 and US$150 million, using approximately 8,000 direct workers, mainly in rural areas.
He said several companies would produce in several places, using the dams and irrigated areas with Integrated Irrigation Aquiculture technology, Franco said in reference to statements by Robert Jones, of the U.S. Embassy Commercial Service, regarding a company which exported US$100 million worth of tilapia, and which seeks to start operations in the country.
“The industry will require investment in production systems, fish processing plants, plants to take advantage of by-products (mainly flours), a food plant, auxiliary marketing organizations, training and other systems,” he said.
Source listin.com.do
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 12:02 PM
From: United States, NYC
Another excellent piece of news. These export opportunities will someday allow the DR to solidify its economy and establish favorable conditions for its long neglected people.
Written by: josean, 12 Jan 2010 12:17 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
That’s all it is at this point, NEWS. We have been down this road of pie in the sky announcements before. I will believe when I see it!
I am Missouri type Dominican, you got to show me!
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 12:34 PM
From: United States, NYC
Tiempo al tiempo. Rome wasn't created in a day. If economic opportunities are quantifiable and
show excellent sale streams, US and EU markets, then investors will come. That's why NAFTA-DR
and the other assorted trade deals are necessary. And as these little engines drive the economy
forward greater demand for more sophisticated and specialized skill-sets will be required. Thus educational opportunities will be in greater demand to help fill the demand. It's a theory that's worked in other places; can't see why it could not achieve similar outcomes in the DR.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Atabey ,,,save your breath ,,even good news is greeted with bad spirit by some who oppose promoting tourism , any new ideas or even import replacement in foods.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Josean maybe you can drive the tilapia into the sea with your pitchfork
From: United States
jose n ann
apocalypse zombie
gloom and loon sales person
parajo portador de malas noticias
Written by: jonbonz, 12 Jan 2010 12:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
The domesgtic market for fish is less the 25% met by local production. A good aquaculture industy is needed
Written by: josean, 12 Jan 2010 12:44 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
"can't see why it could not achieve similar outcomes in the DR.'
LIE-onel Fernandez and the corrupt criminal enterprise he leads AKA the PLD that’s why!
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 12:53 PM
From: United States, NYC
By the way I agree with Josean on the matter that it's taken a long time for the DR to get its act together.
Read the golden opportunity lost in 1966. The article below by Professor Schrank of Yale University describes the incredible opportunity offered and lost in 1966. In essence, President Balaguer and the Dominican elites were offered an opportunity to join the advance world in 1966. Basically, the USA offered to merge the D R and Puerto Rico via a Triangle economic union. The D R would take over parts of those industries that the more advanced Puerto Rican economy was shading due to its higher wage labor structure. Please read the entire article at:
http://www.yale.edu/ccr/workshop/schrank.docHad the leadership of the DR taken the plunge in 1966 many of the current deficiencies in health, education, law enforcement, would have largely been solved, to say nothing of the far greater economic output and opportunities for all Dominicans-of every stripe-to enjoy their lives.
Written by: Escott, 12 Jan 2010 1:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
It is difficult to sustain a profitable business here with everybodys hands in your pockets all the tme. I had to hire the best known accountant just to run interferance. and I only had a small restaurant. Every day I had someone into hassle me. One day a guy comes in demanding all my invoices, I said I don't have them the accountant does. Had I given them to this idiot I wouldn't have been able to figure out the ten percent to split up weekly for the employees and they would have gone crazy.
Next day the fire department comes in and says I need another fire extinquisher This was for an area non cooking and all concrete and metal and they said "you HAVE to buy it from us. I said no thanks I have one at home I will bring in tomorrow. NO they said I have to buy it from them. I said NO I don't since I already own one. I went to Puerto Plata that afternoon and bought one 2x the size as the one in the kitchen which they said was fine for less than half the price.
Written by: Escott, 12 Jan 2010 1:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
You can try and defend the idiots in this country but you don't know a thing about business here.
Written by: josean, 12 Jan 2010 1:19 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Escott,
These are REAL day to day happenings that the Pollyanna posters here have no idea occur ever second of every day in Corruptolandia!
These actions demoralize the general populace into submission and unfortunately acquiescence and these bandits drive away legitimate business opportunities and entrepreneurs.
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 1:34 PM
From: United States, NYC
By the way Escott, how long have you been in business in la bella Quisqueya? And as a fellow businessman, I too agree about the slight of hands, corruption, and what nots that you have to put up with. What's your opinion on CAFTA-DR? I'm all for it because if nothing more it serves to structure and organize the state and nation along established modalities of economic activities. Thus measurable and quantifiable standards are enforced on the DR making business decisions less prone to the hassles and hazards you mention.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Escott,
I clearly understand your pain. We have a 65-bed motel in Puerto Rico and you should see what we go through every year to secure several operating licenses. We have a bunch of controlling entities trampling one another in their haste to confiscate our money. It is a full-time job to keep all paperwork in order and chase these rascals down to get the license approved.
Also, several locals have learned that they don't have to move out if they don't want to, and removeal process is both lengthy and costly. I am going through that process right now and, believe it or not, the guy is Dominican! He's been living for free for nine months, and lawyer and other fees have already exceeded $1500.
Not much better in DR, either. I have three rental properties there and we are lucky when we get more than six months rent out of anyone. They know system well and abuse it, with aparent impunity.
Clearly, grass isn't always greener on other side.
MJEV.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Tilapia farming in DR is not a new concept.
We had it in our farms in 60's and 70's.
We abandoned it because people were chicken and beef eaters and preferred salt water fish over tilapia, so profits were suffering.
Times are different now, and I very much like the aquiculture concept for DR and its export potential. Furthermore, it should help countryside and keep farmers closer to homeland and spread prosperity around. Moreover, it could be great incentive for repopulation of our western states.
Win/Win situation as I see it. I support it 100 percent.
MJEV.
Written by: josean, 12 Jan 2010 1:47 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Furthermore, it should help countryside and keep farmers closer to homeland and spread prosperity around. Moreover, it could be great incentive for repopulation of our western states.
Exactly Dr. Strangelove!
From: United States
tilapia is old news all over the caribbean. they have been farming them for 50 years in some eastern caribbean islands. the trick is to get locals to eat them. the normal way dominicans cook fish, which is generally to fry them in a vat of oil, does not work with tilapia, since the skin is bitter. they have to be filleted and grilled, or some other method of cooking. besides, marketing concepts have to change. they are not too attractive hanging off sticks in the noonday sun outside Bonao.
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 1:59 PM
From: United States, NYC
Glomarexplorer,
Funny, I was just down for a few weeks during Christmas in PR and had an encounter with a party that was fighting their rentee for past dues. It was ugly. My mother-in-law has a potential problem brewing for next month in San Germán.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Dread National and PriceMart must sell tons of the stuff all filleted and ready to go at an excellent price ....the folks just need to learn how to cook them
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 2:07 PM
From: United States, NYC
dreadlock,
I think the investors want to export massive quantities of the fish to EEUU and EU. But I agree that some local consumption would be beneficial for all concerns involved. Remember, the tourist sector will demand some quantities, too.
Written by: jonbonz, 12 Jan 2010 2:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
tilpai whole os going for 50 peso a pound in the sun with flys and people are buying them. The market is there.
From: Denmark
Atabey,
You know why the 1966 deal didnt come thru - the rich, government, oficials, military etc thought they would loose some of their power or the possibility to pocket in, hence it never came thru even if it had been for the better of the country. Same story over and over again. Are the above mentioned "real Dominicans" I would not label them as such - these people do not have any other nationality then the peso or the usd - they are traitors and hence should not be allowed to call themself Dominicans.
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
Dread
you are right, this is not new to the region. These same israelies been doing this in Jamaica for years. The local do not like the farm raised fish because it does not taste the same as free range fish.
These same guys just introduce this type of operation to Haiti last year. The have set up shop in the Croix dex bouque area near PAuP. They just set shop where ever thee can get access to cheap labor and wonderfull taxes incentives.
Written by: jonbonz, 12 Jan 2010 3:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
1 Gallon of water gives you 1 pound of fish every four months. They eat plant based feeds and can be feed unprocessed plant material and will get fat and happy off of algae alone.
From: United States
PatDiamond, please be careful when you expose these facts. you might find yourself being labelled a hater by the guys who just love these press releases. and, the tilapia in pricesmart and national, at least the filleted version, is all from china.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
and it is excellent .....and I suppose you want those guys who set up shop wherever the opportunity presents itself to turn it over to you so you can make a buck .....not likely
Written by: anthonyC, 12 Jan 2010 3:29 PM
From: United States
So here we have an established company wanting to invest in the DR which will provide jobs, training and much needed foreign capital and some people here are b*tching.
Jeez, And then they ask why the DR is so messed up.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Two wankers from caricom over here to show us hayseeds how it is done and at the same time trying to save the locals from outside exploiters .....cant have it both ways
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
anthonyC ,,do not get too frustrated ,,the some people you refer to are only a small some,There have been numerous reports in the world media relating to the over harvesting of fish around the world and so fish farming has become quite important ..and hopefully there will be other varieties of fish to farm that are nicer to eat
From: United States
Ricardolito, you seem to believe that tilapia farming is some genius new idea, and we are at the cutting edge of something brilliant. if you would take off the rose colored glasses, and do some research, you would know that it has been around for decades in the eastern caribbean, and has gone absolutely nowhere. maybe, if it can be produced at competitive prices, for EXPORT, it might be worth looking at. but, as i said before, it is not going to make any headway into the local market anytime soon. at 50 pesos per pound, people will keep eating chicken. it is not as if we are talking about red snapper here. it is tilapia. unless it is cooked by using some exquisite recipe, it tastes like straw. why do i bother.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
no ...your assumption is not correct
From: United States
then please correct me.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
the Eastern Caribean ?.....what do they know ?
From: United States
i ask the same of you every day.
Written by: danny00, 12 Jan 2010 5:01 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
most if not all the above comments and this so called "fish farm"
al smell very like 3 week old dead fish smell.
some thing is very stinky here..
leave it alone let them raise their fish....... later you can thrown them out of the country. {after they dont have any funds left}
Written by: ateo1992 
, 12 Jan 2010 5:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic
shit runs like a cascade out of joseanos mouth !!!!.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Ata,
Sounds like an echo.
Thanks for sharing and understanding.
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 9:10 PM
From: United States, NYC
"...stated its interest in entering the Dominican market to export that type of fish in the United States."
"...to competitively export fresh fish fillets to the US and European markets."
If it happens, the investors seek to EXPORT the fish product to EEUU and EU. If the domestic market develops, then opportunities may develop for internal sales and consumption. What's so difficult to understand? Is it the latest in technological innovation? No. Should DR only accept investors that seek to invest only in the latest and greatest? Of course not. No sensible economic policy would consist of only choosing the cherries from the lot. Besides, few if any nations can under current economic conditions turn aside investors willing and able to create thousands of jobs and economic opportunities. I say bring on as many of these low tech economic partners as possible. Sure, I would love higher tech investors but that ain't happening in DR for some time to come.
Written by: anthonyC, 12 Jan 2010 11:34 PM
From: United States
dready,
Actually Tilapia is fairly light tasting and easily prepared with simple recipes. Lightly broiled with Lemon(Not Lime) Garlic, Basil and Cilantro is quite good. And I rarely eat fish.
Written by: Atabey, 12 Jan 2010 11:43 PM
From: United States, NYC
"Uno de los principales obstáculos para los dominicanos lo constituyen las empresas centroamericanas ubicadas en regímenes especiales que se acogen a las preferencias arancelarias en violación al tratado vigente", destacó el presidente de la Asociación de Industrias, Manuel Díez Cabral."
So if this is a clear violation take these companies/nations to court. What's going on?
Written by: brucebb, 13 Jan 2010 8:38 AM
From: Canada
tilapia has been banned i a lot of island for farming and in
parts of the USA etc. reasion is should thay get into the rivers etc
with in 2 years all the local fish will be over run by the tilapia
and thay can now even live in salt water
so one should be very carefull of this project
thay are some what like the chinese carp once in the rivers etc
you have a big promble
Written by: jonbonz, 13 Jan 2010 8:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Tilapia are here in almost every stream. They havge been farmed here for years. I have a small home Auquponics system with Tilapia in it and I got them out of a river near Santo Domingo. Every Small stream I see has Tilapia in them. I have a small piece of property in Nagua and there are Tilapia in the creek that runs nearby.
The possible damage has already been done here so no need for controls.
It sucks but it is the way it is.
From: United States
Tilapia is a junk fish...related to Basia, the Viet Namese catfish...most of the MERO FRITO sold in the DR in not grouper BUT substituted basia
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Salmon wild salmon not the inferior farmed stuff used to be junk fish used for cat food and canned also Halibut used to be served de riguer with fish and chips ....now wild salmon and halibut command the highest prices in fine dining establishments .....it is just a matter of time
Written by: jonbonz, 13 Jan 2010 10:29 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Junk fish or no it is a very efficianet source of protien. Can be raised on waste crop residue.
From: United States
actually, some of the so called sea bass sold here is the same basia to which doggpound refers. and it is junk..some freash water catfish. and, anthonyc, thanks for bringing me up to speed about tilapia. i notice you did not address my statement that the skin was bitter, making it more suitable for fillets than for frying-
Written by: brucebb, 15 Jan 2010 8:17 AM
From: Canada
if tilapia are in the water system now than go for (APT)s farms
it is a high proten fish and a fast growing fish if you can sep. the males form
the females chep to grow top feeder can feed almost any thing
if it will give jobs fine
Written by: jonbonz, 15 Jan 2010 9:29 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
You can do the hybrids with the blue male and the nile or mozambique females and have 999 out of 1000 offspring male.
I really am not into the hormone feed sex reversal.
Written by: brucebb, 20 Jan 2010 9:10 AM
From: Canada
jonbonz
harmone feed etc has been band in most countrys
it has some ting to do with the breast milk the
harmone get into the milk and babys
hybirds are ok but it depends on were you are going to ship your end product
and with skin on
Written by: brucebb, 20 Jan 2010 9:11 AM
From: Canada
jonbonz
harmone feed etc has been band in most countrys
it has some ting to do with the breast milk the
harmone get into the milk and babys
hybirds are ok but it depends on were you are going to ship your end product
and with skin on
Written by: jonbonz, 20 Jan 2010 9:47 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
The hybdrids are what every color they have been bred to be. As an instance if someone has made sure both the parent strains are the reds then the off spring will ost likely be red. I know of a source of fish where the Blues are Black in color and the Mozembiques are red and the offspring coe out a looking like wild tilapia. '
As you said it depends on the final market.
Regardless as a protient source tilapia do a pretty good job of making it all work.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
they are not up to dreads culinary standards .....and cannot be jerked .....like he jerks his chicken as opposed to choking his chicken .....which since Belkis ran off with the motoconche guy he has been doing a lot of.....she got bored of eating trouser trout a la presidente at dreads residence
From: United States
they are up to my standards, as i do not fry them. fillets have a lot of potential for tasty dishes
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I am Missouri type Dominican, you got to show me!
show excellent sale streams, US and EU markets, then investors will come. That's why NAFTA-DR
and the other assorted trade deals are necessary. And as these little engines drive the economy
forward greater demand for more sophisticated and specialized skill-sets will be required. Thus educational opportunities will be in greater demand to help fill the demand. It's a theory that's worked in other places; can't see why it could not achieve similar outcomes in the DR.
apocalypse zombie
gloom and loon sales person
parajo portador de malas noticias
LIE-onel Fernandez and the corrupt criminal enterprise he leads AKA the PLD that’s why!
Read the golden opportunity lost in 1966. The article below by Professor Schrank of Yale University describes the incredible opportunity offered and lost in 1966. In essence, President Balaguer and the Dominican elites were offered an opportunity to join the advance world in 1966. Basically, the USA offered to merge the D R and Puerto Rico via a Triangle economic union. The D R would take over parts of those industries that the more advanced Puerto Rican economy was shading due to its higher wage labor structure. Please read the entire article at:
http://www.yale.edu/ccr/workshop/schrank.doc
Had the leadership of the DR taken the plunge in 1966 many of the current deficiencies in health, education, law enforcement, would have largely been solved, to say nothing of the far greater economic output and opportunities for all Dominicans-of every stripe-to enjoy their lives.
Next day the fire department comes in and says I need another fire extinquisher This was for an area non cooking and all concrete and metal and they said "you HAVE to buy it from us. I said no thanks I have one at home I will bring in tomorrow. NO they said I have to buy it from them. I said NO I don't since I already own one. I went to Puerto Plata that afternoon and bought one 2x the size as the one in the kitchen which they said was fine for less than half the price.
These are REAL day to day happenings that the Pollyanna posters here have no idea occur ever second of every day in Corruptolandia!
These actions demoralize the general populace into submission and unfortunately acquiescence and these bandits drive away legitimate business opportunities and entrepreneurs.
Escott,
I clearly understand your pain. We have a 65-bed motel in Puerto Rico and you should see what we go through every year to secure several operating licenses. We have a bunch of controlling entities trampling one another in their haste to confiscate our money. It is a full-time job to keep all paperwork in order and chase these rascals down to get the license approved.
Also, several locals have learned that they don't have to move out if they don't want to, and removeal process is both lengthy and costly. I am going through that process right now and, believe it or not, the guy is Dominican! He's been living for free for nine months, and lawyer and other fees have already exceeded $1500.
Not much better in DR, either. I have three rental properties there and we are lucky when we get more than six months rent out of anyone. They know system well and abuse it, with aparent impunity.
Clearly, grass isn't always greener on other side.
MJEV.
Tilapia farming in DR is not a new concept.
We had it in our farms in 60's and 70's.
We abandoned it because people were chicken and beef eaters and preferred salt water fish over tilapia, so profits were suffering.
Times are different now, and I very much like the aquiculture concept for DR and its export potential. Furthermore, it should help countryside and keep farmers closer to homeland and spread prosperity around. Moreover, it could be great incentive for repopulation of our western states.
Win/Win situation as I see it. I support it 100 percent.
MJEV.
Furthermore, it should help countryside and keep farmers closer to homeland and spread prosperity around. Moreover, it could be great incentive for repopulation of our western states.
Exactly Dr. Strangelove!
Funny, I was just down for a few weeks during Christmas in PR and had an encounter with a party that was fighting their rentee for past dues. It was ugly. My mother-in-law has a potential problem brewing for next month in San Germán.
I think the investors want to export massive quantities of the fish to EEUU and EU. But I agree that some local consumption would be beneficial for all concerns involved. Remember, the tourist sector will demand some quantities, too.
You know why the 1966 deal didnt come thru - the rich, government, oficials, military etc thought they would loose some of their power or the possibility to pocket in, hence it never came thru even if it had been for the better of the country. Same story over and over again. Are the above mentioned "real Dominicans" I would not label them as such - these people do not have any other nationality then the peso or the usd - they are traitors and hence should not be allowed to call themself Dominicans.
you are right, this is not new to the region. These same israelies been doing this in Jamaica for years. The local do not like the farm raised fish because it does not taste the same as free range fish.
These same guys just introduce this type of operation to Haiti last year. The have set up shop in the Croix dex bouque area near PAuP. They just set shop where ever thee can get access to cheap labor and wonderfull taxes incentives.
Jeez, And then they ask why the DR is so messed up.
al smell very like 3 week old dead fish smell.
some thing is very stinky here..
leave it alone let them raise their fish....... later you can thrown them out of the country. {after they dont have any funds left}
Ata,
Sounds like an echo.
Thanks for sharing and understanding.
"...to competitively export fresh fish fillets to the US and European markets."
If it happens, the investors seek to EXPORT the fish product to EEUU and EU. If the domestic market develops, then opportunities may develop for internal sales and consumption. What's so difficult to understand? Is it the latest in technological innovation? No. Should DR only accept investors that seek to invest only in the latest and greatest? Of course not. No sensible economic policy would consist of only choosing the cherries from the lot. Besides, few if any nations can under current economic conditions turn aside investors willing and able to create thousands of jobs and economic opportunities. I say bring on as many of these low tech economic partners as possible. Sure, I would love higher tech investors but that ain't happening in DR for some time to come.
Actually Tilapia is fairly light tasting and easily prepared with simple recipes. Lightly broiled with Lemon(Not Lime) Garlic, Basil and Cilantro is quite good. And I rarely eat fish.
So if this is a clear violation take these companies/nations to court. What's going on?
parts of the USA etc. reasion is should thay get into the rivers etc
with in 2 years all the local fish will be over run by the tilapia
and thay can now even live in salt water
so one should be very carefull of this project
thay are some what like the chinese carp once in the rivers etc
you have a big promble
The possible damage has already been done here so no need for controls.
It sucks but it is the way it is.
it is a high proten fish and a fast growing fish if you can sep. the males form
the females chep to grow top feeder can feed almost any thing
if it will give jobs fine
I really am not into the hormone feed sex reversal.
harmone feed etc has been band in most countrys
it has some ting to do with the breast milk the
harmone get into the milk and babys
hybirds are ok but it depends on were you are going to ship your end product
and with skin on
harmone feed etc has been band in most countrys
it has some ting to do with the breast milk the
harmone get into the milk and babys
hybirds are ok but it depends on were you are going to ship your end product
and with skin on
As you said it depends on the final market.
Regardless as a protient source tilapia do a pretty good job of making it all work.