Lets Close the Border and stop the exports once and for all, We have to deal with them way to much. to put up with they crap, and inflated taxes.

So I'll just say unlike the rest of the world the Dominican Republic has to unfairly deal with most of Haiti’s problems and get discriminated upon by the rest of the world and Haitians for helping them cope with their problems.

full access to the Haitian Market is not a Dominican birthright. Last I check Haiti is a sovereign country and is not breaking any internationally recognized trade agreement with DR. If you choose to leave your border wide open thats your problem.

Sidenote- according to IBD while remittence to Haiti annually is 1.7 billion usd,only 30 mil of that come from the Dom Rip while that one way trade to Haiti is worth close to 1 billion usd to the Dominican economy. Spare us the Bull shit.

DR is the only country connected to Haiti by land.

Anyone who knows anything about the harbours in Haiti, mainly PAP, will prefer shipping by sea to DR and truck their containers to the Haitian side.

So, shut the border for real, and let them try to use their harbour as port of entry.

They'll call home for help.

Written by: PatDiamond, 29 Nov 2010 10:11 AM
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
full access to the Haitian Market is not a Dominican birthright. Last I check Haiti is a sovereign country and is not breaking any internationally recognized trade agreement with DR. If you choose to leave your border wide open thats your problem.

Sidenote- according to IBD while remittence to Haiti annually is 1.7 billion usd,only 30 mil of that come from the Dom Rip while that one way trade to Haiti is worth close to 1 billion usd to the Dominican economy. Spare us the Bull shit.




Spoken like a true ambulance chasing lawyer.

I simply do not understand this and would like to have confirmation that the statement is correct ..why would the Haitians put a special tax only on Dominican goods ?? and I hardly think Haiti is flooded with goods from other countries . I would treat the statement from CONEP with suspicion as I am sure that I have read that Dominican exports to Haiti are at a record high .

Ricardolito...Good point..!!

I only wish it were true.

Haiti should indeed impose higher tariff on dominican goods being dumped in haiti.

All relations with DR should be reduced AT ALL COST.

DR has no birth right to the Haitian market....and Haitian migrants have no birth right to entering DR territory.

Written by: WalterPolo, 29 Nov 2010 10:55 AMFrom: Dominican Republic, Puerto PlataDR is the only country connected to Haiti by land.

Anyone who knows anything about the harbours in Haiti, mainly PAP, will prefer shipping by sea to DR and truck their containers to the Haitian side.

So, shut the border for real, and let them try to use their harbour as port of entry.

They'll call home for help.

so you'll punish haiti by closing the ports in DR (money is made by the DR govt) and stop trucking the containers to haiti (DR truckers/gas/other products or services are used). this is the intelligent comment you come up with. Jesus man some of you guys on this forum are

Customer is always right

Trade between neighbouring countries is often tricky especially with products that are produced in both countries. There are some crazy taxes that the U.S. imposes on Canadian goods and we are supposed to have a "Free Trade Agreement"....

As soon as Haitians get the upper hand they will try to screw Dominicans. We have treated them good always.

Finally , I have found the article in the DiarioLibre from 10 november pointing out that exports to Haiti are at a record high at present and are led by clothing, synthetic material , cement and foodstuffs ,,there has been growth every year since 2005 ,
so things are not too bad although I was surprised that the total annual exports to Haiti are less than 700 million dollars ..not a lot but our total exports are only around the 2 billion mark .
I can not find this article in any newspaper so I am wondering about the source.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

I have to laugh, becaue we are so used to the MARRULLA that happens in our countries. Just think about this. These numbers that you are posting on this forum are about 30% of the business that happens between the 2 countries. Dominicans and Hatians tiguerasos have their huge business going on under the table.

yes I suppose you are correct and I was only quoting the official figures which , as I remarked , surprised me because they were so low ..but if the under the table goods are hidden from official reords I guess then they cross the border free from taxes and are only subject to the normal propinas

Written by: telemeco, 29 Nov 2010 1:18 PM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey
If we decompose the word 'haitiens,' phonetically we get 'Hai Siens' = qui hait les siens (One who hates his own)
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Telemeco!!!!
Only someone of Haitian decent will know that saying.
I am wondering if you are not a Haitian in disguise.


Semper Fidelis.............

Telemeco knows the old adage that you need to know your enemies better than your friends,behind the fake smiles of Haitians lies a hatred for our people and our country .They want to achieve by sheer numbers what they could not do like men in the battlefield!

Telemeco shut the hell up! U talk about if we look up the word Haitian. Didn't anyone ask u. If u look up the word Dominican u will get ungreatful price of shits! Yes think u guys are better then us. How long did my people take care of u guys? We should have let ya eat shit! If we were so bad why accept our help?? Since ya so much better then us ya should have been able. To take care of ur dirty only Spanish speaking self! U guys are so stupid. We Haitians know where we have come from. When we go to america we go to school. We work our asses off to take care of our families. What do u guys s

Do? Ur women are sluts! They have like 20 kids by the age of 15 . Lets not talk about when ya come to america. School is definitely out of the question. There's no point. America sees how lazy n dumb u guys are so they translate everything. You are going to hell! And most likely gonna die miserable n lonely. U are an idiot. U should be trying to help not talk about us!! We are ur neighbors and you talk about us like we are trash! U are trash. U are dog shit under my shoe. And I see all of the other comments talking about how bad Haitians are. All of ur people are going to hell. What you think u white? U better then us? Ha u are viewed liked another nigga or dumb shit cleaning worker!! U guys get no respect and deserve. None. May God bless u and your country. Cuz Haiti might need help now. But im sure you guys will need help one day. And I will be

The first one to protest aganist helping ur ungodly country! Karma will come bk
what goes around comes around

To Jani24. I do not understand what you say: your people take care dominicans for year? o abuse dominican for years? get benefit fom our lands for years. but this is past and we got over and try to coop with our neighbors but you are not easy and never learn to say thanks( is only a small group not the majority). then you say that our women have 20 children before are 15? I quite believe you maybe is talking about your own women who start having children at age 10 from distortion incest families who abuse their own children. and last but not least, how about academy educacion,? do yo see the average of dominican who graduate from college in the usa , is very hight, and must of the hospital the director is dominican, can you say the same for you guy? te majority have not opportunity to go school. I do not say you can do better but you have to fight for it and do not use your time critized a neighbor who running first when you need it and critized. next time say hello to 1 dominican

four ,it's not worth it ..Haitians don't listen ,that's why they are in such a horrible state.Haitians see the world collapsing around them and have blindfolds and headphones playing Haiti Cherie ,we are the greatest etc. and of course the old ..it's everyone else's fault .

The Haitian population is increasing at a far greater pace than ours so I guess it is the cochonettes haitiannes who are multiplying like rats !

The first one to protest against helping ur ungodly country! Karma will come bk


What you don't realise is that "karma" is b__itch slapping Haiti for all the evil they have done and are still doing not only practising witchcraft but even elevating demon worship to a state religion!

Not to mention the modern day restavik slaves .Haiti was born from hatred and has lived in hatred from the beginning and only a complete and absolute change can turn Haiti around but the few Haitians of good will and some brains are either killed or forced into exile so I don't see much of a chance!

I say the hell with Haitians let them eat mud pies, or as they call them "bon bon tares." They are extremely corrupt, that's why, they find themselves in the shape they are.

It's unfortunate...However it is inappropriate to judge all Haitians from what some of them are saying or doing - especially when you might know that the current government is desperate because they no longer have the popular support they once had.
I don't think they are discriminating as well...it might simply be administrative issues...
I deal a lot with Haitians customs and I do know some individuals play with the taxes however they choose too anytime...So you guys may have to simply put on some more pressure to get things done.

Finally, i have a lot of Dominican friends and I witnessed the great sympathy of the Dominicans right after January 12th quake... I think that close all differences...and I'm personally willing to shut up any Haitian about to badmouth the Dominicans. So, i suggest some of you to be wiser and help Haiti grow for the good sake of everyone. Just a little patience!

I also speak on behalf of the Haitians TRUE PATRIOTS USA.

@ patriot; LOL..lol..lol

who elected you to speak on behalf of haitians???

you can only speak on your own behalf.

@Antichrist: Nobody elected me to speak on behalf of all Haitians...However I can speak on behalf of 1000 active members of TRUE PATRIOTS who is the group I represent in the Haitian diaspora, and we are a closed group. Haiti is the way it is right now especially because too many illiterate and uninformed or uneducated folks think they can always choose who can represent them...and guess what? for about 206 year this huge majority has been often very wrong... it's time to accept reality.
Anyway, my comment was not about polemic nor confrontation...Bottom message is we share the island and we have a lot in common, so we need to look for compromise and peace!
And the great respect I personally have for President Leonel Fernandez is the same respect I suppose some other Haitians have...
We have a huge network and I can assure you that thousand of Haitians share my views!

@ patriot

very interesting....and when will your group move into action?

I also hope your group is aware that for most of these 206 years....the illiterate/uninformed/uneducated folks have not chosen their representatives or government.

So blaming them is a bit of a stretch...don't you think???