Santo Domingo. – Half of the university students leave the classroom before graduating, said the study “Desertion, Repeats and Efficiency in a Higher Education Degree,” disclosed yesterday by the Higher Education Ministry.
The study also found that only 10% of the students become professionals in the traditional time, as most take up to more than four years to conclude.
Higher Education minister Ligia Melo said the high desertion rate is reason for concern, but considers positive that the women’s yield is higher than men, since their repeat and abandonment levels are lower.
The study of the Santo Domingo Technological Institute (INTEC) study also found that less than 10% of the population has more than four years of post high school studies.
To counter that reality, the Government made specific efforts, resulting in that more women (61%) than men enter higher education
The study, conducted from 2002 to 2007, found that the first years of study is the toughest period youngsters face in higher education institutions, where the humanities are the majors with the lowest desertion levels.
In majors such as Medicine and Civil Engineering, fewer than 20% of those who graduate manage to do so in the corresponding, or the following year, or as stipulated in the curriculum.
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 9:12 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
They can now ride the METRO with all the free time they have!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Study study study....who said it was easy?.......unless you want to end up like Josean a know nothing lefty weanie
From: Dominican Republic
During first semester, and video should be presented to all new students explaining what is exactly expected from them after their graduation at the university as a Professional or as a Master. They key of our development and our business leadership at Caribbean and Central America, is exactly there......more people educated and with a great feeling to be better, better and absolutely better than "yesterday"!! UASD and all private universities, try to do that, and monitor the such dropping percentage goes down.
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 9:56 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
See boys and girls why you need to stay in school or you will end up like uncle Banistan!
Typing unfunny incoherent dribble sitting in his soiled DEPENDS as he waits for his socialist,I mean Medicaid provided home attendant to change him.
Then at around 10 am feed him his oatmeal sprinkled with cherry flavored MEATMUCIL so he can start the cycle all over again!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
and when I finish sitting on the crapper i clean my josean
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 10:31 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
So your still able to go to the head on your own!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
I stole Pete Townsends sequined walker at the half time show
Written by: Belly, 10 Feb 2010 10:38 AM
From: United States, Seattle, W.A.
Well I'm not surprise at the 50% drop out rate I'm more surprise that the other 50% still has the optimistic views to pay for such incompetent "higher education" schools that we have.I wouldn't pay a dime for higher education where 1st most careers offered are out dated and nothing that reflects the world we living in today. 2nd in a so call universities where the teacher don't dominate their own subject and can't even answer medium knowledge questions to the students plus can't speak or spell in the proper manner . 3rd where the cost for such bad education is so high for the average Dominican that is almost impossible for a student to work ,live and get schooling on the same salary and the you add a worthless Seccyt who don't have a clue of what careers are needed today giving advice to the higher education school and that's why I'm surprise the other 50% still there and hasn't drop out and gotten a book to learn on their own.
From: Dominican Republic
3rd where the cost for such bad education is so high for the average Dominican that is almost impossible for a student to work ,live and get schooling on the same salary and the you add a worthless Sectary who don't have a clue of what careers are needed today giving advice to the higher education school and that's why I'm surprise the other 50% still there and hasn't drop out and gotten a book to learn on their own.
_____________________________________________
Damm you beat me to it :)
From: Dominican Republic
1st most careers offered are out dated and nothing that reflects the world we living in today.
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Yeah i know someone in la Vega that was majoring in Information Technology and the computers they used had Windows 98 installed.
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 10:46 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
¿Y No Era Y Que Pa’Lante Que Íbamos?
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 10:46 AM
From: United States
¿Y No Era Y Que Pa’Lante Que Íbamos?
________________________________________________
Si como lo cangrejos Pa Lante y Para Tras. : )
From: Dominican Republic
Belly, good point...but if you'd have the chance to select the current situation or nothing, like no universities what do you prefer?
There are good universities there see PUCMM, see UNAPEC, UNPHU, UASD and others that with few resources are preparing the actual students, that in a near future would become the teachers for students in the future.
Let's propose new things for our univrsities, for our education system instead of critize, and if you have a good methodology from Houston, it is welcomed to our great nation.
Have a nice day =))
Written by: Juango, 10 Feb 2010 10:49 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Many of the ~50% of students that drop out are ill prepared at best. Many can't even read and write beyond a 6th grade level, not to mention their math skills. It should be no surprise to anyone. When a county's leadership places its youngsters education budget behind their own person gains, it is no surprise to me. The time has arrived, to throw the bastards out by force. Pack LF and Zelaya on a plane and ship them to el Palacio in Miraflores, (Caracas). At least both payasos will now feel at home there, with the current "apagones" in Venezuela.
From: Dominican Republic
PUCMM is in that one of the most expensive Universities in the Dominican republic how will they be able to afford something like that.
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 10:53 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
This is consistent for the current ruler into his 12 year cycle.
Build a METRO for no riders and graduate students for no jobs!
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 10:59 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
juango,
Now stop it!
You know that our educational problems in DR were solved by LIE-onel Fernandez's in first term.
In fact like the GOD he is to some he did it in 7 days.
Now he is on to more important priorities like METROS!
Written by: xwill7, 10 Feb 2010 11:02 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
cuerros make more $$$ than most professional jobs in DR...
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 11:05 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Not the cueros on the METRO!
Written by: Belly, 10 Feb 2010 11:19 AM
From: United States, Seattle, W.A.
Monterrey
Belly, good point...but if you'd have the chance to select the current situation or nothing, like no universities what do you prefer?
There is no such things as no universities and we have to get off the mentality that we have to accept else we get nothing because we are the ones paying for it with the salary and tax money so they don't have the option to give us nothing unless we allow them to do it remember government get the money from us the public.PUCMM is expensive and not really worth the price for the education, I sat down one day in a classroom there and the teacher couldn't tell the difference between Redhat Linux and Ubuntu linux and now ask your self if the business world runs on Linux then how do you explain the teacher of one os our best universities is teaching a class where he can't tell the difference between option A and B something he should be dominant on.
Written by: Belly, 10 Feb 2010 11:25 AM
From: United States, Seattle, W.A.
Monterrey
The UASD is another example of a failure.Just look at Leonel a honor student there and asked your self why was he a honor student something I have been asking my self because as a book writer he is weak and as a president I have yet to hear him speak like leaders do in a speech that doesn't goes around in circles and end up saying nothing. Go check out most of his speech in writing and try reading them and at the end ask your self what was the point of this speech because it may have lasted 45 minutes and basically said nothing in meaningful content.The UASD a 500 year old higher education school that still can't produce a Aspirina or give a environment report in Los Haitises trust worthy and not needing second hand opinion from experts at UN.
Written by: xwill7, 10 Feb 2010 11:31 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
josean,
a girl working at a strip club in Santiago can make in one night more money than a professional makes in an entire month... Or she simply gets a boy friend from nueva yoi...
Written by: Escott, 10 Feb 2010 11:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
I encouraged my girfriend to finish her degree. She had 2 years of study before getting pregnant and dropping out.
She went back to finish a degree in Computer Science. The first two weeks the Professor of Computer Science didn't show up. No calls no notices no nuttins. She ended up failing the course because the teacher was never there. Univ of Santo Domingo is the only internationally accredited school in the country but since government run these people don't give a crap about anything. How very typical how the ills of the society carries through even into the higher education.
Written by: SALSOUL, 10 Feb 2010 12:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic, UNC-Chapel Hill
"Cuerros make more $$$ than most professional jobs in DR...," xwill7. Type it again, Xwill7, type it again! Lol!
Written by: xwill7, 10 Feb 2010 1:31 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
escott,
there are some good international schools in Santiago too. The only way a degree from DR is good is if you finish and then leave to USA or EURO... Then you will see some $$$
Written by: xwill7, 10 Feb 2010 1:33 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Salsol,
Some girls can live pretty nice by having a few novios from the states... Their only working expense is travel expenses from her house to caribe express
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
Yeah i know someone in la Vega that was majoring in Information Technology and the computers they used had Windows 98 installed . time2rize I remember when i was in high school in back in exatcly 1998 in englewood NJ in the united states i was in a computer class , and all the computers my class used was model computers from 1983 the first apple computers that came out , we use to complain to the teacher saying why do we use old computers for are class , she use to say all the time the school does get enough funding from the state or board of education ? so I guess the irony is no matter whether you are in the united states or dominican republic . is the same story theres always somebody getting the short end of the stick
From: United States, Bay Area, CA - (Dei sitio)
Why not a country wide reform to engage 90% of current universities in a scope change towards Technical fields: Manufacturing technologies, IT, Clinical Lab studies, Agricultural tech., Bio-Pharma, Electronics, Renewable Energy, Maintenance/Facilities Tech. (HVAC, Equipment Maintenance)?
we have way too many lawyers and Business Adm. and General Administartive roles that lack of the meat and core understanding of material transformation and information management both vital for 3rd world countries willing to move to next level. Our poor understanding of technology is what have hindered the progress of Free Zones to the next phase and we have ended up losing our industrial potential.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Escott make the guy who knocked up your girlfriend pay for her education .....fairs fair
Written by: xwill7, 10 Feb 2010 3:32 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
lol... That was a low blow
Written by: josean, 10 Feb 2010 4:11 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Emphasis on BLOW!
From: United States Virgin Islands
Many times people drop out of college because they dont have the foundation and educational skills to do well on the University level. Public highschools need to be looked at to see if they are doing their job in preparing students for college.
From: United States Virgin Islands
just saw juango comment....totally agree.
From: United States
jose n ann meat head, you show a strange superiority in the art of insulting people and making enemies.
From: Canada
50% drop out rate is high but this problem occurs in many countries. They do not speak of the % of students who cannot complete the program in the "expected number of years". In many countries, we hear the complain that students are not ready to follow a university program. Worse than the lack of knowledge, it is the lack of work methodology and effort. Also, many students must work too many hours a week and that cuts on the time of study. University is a level of education which must correspond to a basic international recognition. Many students, if not most, students of the DR have gone through elementary and secondary school on half-day schedules (averaging 4.5 hours a day). Take away also the NUMEROUS holidays..... and other possible disturbances. These kids are expected to reach a university level in much less time of preparation than US, Canada, and all European countries.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
This is a matter of the highest concern and nearly always the reason why a student can not continue is simply that he can not find the money for the fees or the books that are needed ..every year I get at least 50 requests from students for financial assistance and some of the students are very bright . But I am not a very rich man and can only do so much .I think we need to have some form of formal sponsorship arrangement where individuals can sponsor a student ..the cost being only for fees and books. In that way some bright students will not be lost .
Written by: josean, 11 Feb 2010 7:48 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
What a surprise!
Students receive basically no elementary or high school education or mediocre a best and we are surprised they can't compete if the are lucky enough to make to the university.
Written by: xwill7, 11 Feb 2010 10:50 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
josean,
brugal helps them study
Written by: josean, 11 Feb 2010 2:28 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
And here it is:
Leonel y la educación
Andrés L. Mateo
jueves, 11 de febrero de 2010, 01:00 a.m.
Cualquiera piensa que era una meta exagerada el 4% para la inversión en educación consignado en la Ley 66-97 promulgada por el presidente Leonel Fernández en el 1997.
Pero el más somero vistazo a las escalas del financiamiento público en educación en el resto de los países americanos nos indica que ese porcentaje del Producto Interno Bruto (16% del gasto público total), lo que nos hubiera permitido apenas es alcanzar el nivel de inversión que la región tenía para esa época.
Los datos revelan que tanto el presidente Fernández, en su gobierno del 1996 al 2000, como el presidente Hipólito Mejía, en los dos primeros años de su gobierno, tenían conciencia de la importancia de mantener el ritmo de la inversión pública en educación, puesto que el ascenso sostenido del gasto en educación llegó en esa época, por única y última vez, al 2.5% en porcentaje del PIB.
Written by: josean, 11 Feb 2010 2:29 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
En términos contundentes, de lo que hablamos es de que un país gobernado por un hombre que se proclama a sí mismo como abanderado de la posmodernidad, invierte el 2% del PIB en el financiamiento de la educación, en contraposición con el promedio de la región que va de un 4.5% a un 4.7%.
En el “Informe Nacional de Desarrollo humano 2005” se prevé que para un país con las características del nuestro el mínimo de la inversión debería ser 4.6% del PIB. Y ello no para empujar una revolución en el sistema, sino para cubrir las necesidades mínimas del desempeño.
Somos el país que menos invierte en educación en América Latina, y tenemos un presidente que se llena la boca citando en todos los cónclaves internacionales a los pensadores de la posmodernidad.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 11 Feb 2010 2:30 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Pero si su discurso tuviera relación con su práctica aplicaría las ideas de Peter Drucker (ideólogo de la posmodernidad que suele aterrizar en su mente cuando un discurso florido requiere de un argumento de autoridad), para quien en la vida posmoderna “el verdadero recurso dominante y factor de producción de riqueza absolutamente decisivo no es ya ni el capital, ni el trabajo, ni la tierra, sino el conocimiento”.
¿Qué puede esperar un país, en un gobierno de un “modernizador”, cuyo concepto de prioridad es destinar el 29% menos de la inversión pública en educación que los otros países de similar desarrollo en la región, en relación con el ingreso percápita?
No estamos haciendo una pregunta retórica, porque los resultados están ahí, y si el Metro es su orgullo, el desempeño de la educación debería ser su vergüenza.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 11 Feb 2010 2:31 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
stop the insanity !
Written by: josean, 13 Feb 2010 6:18 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
You should have never dropped out of school Banistan or at least stayed until you got to the part about free speech and the First Amendment!
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They can now ride the METRO with all the free time they have!
See boys and girls why you need to stay in school or you will end up like uncle Banistan!
Typing unfunny incoherent dribble sitting in his soiled DEPENDS as he waits for his socialist,I mean Medicaid provided home attendant to change him.
Then at around 10 am feed him his oatmeal sprinkled with cherry flavored MEATMUCIL so he can start the cycle all over again!
So your still able to go to the head on your own!
_____________________________________________
Damm you beat me to it :)
_____________________________________________________________________
Yeah i know someone in la Vega that was majoring in Information Technology and the computers they used had Windows 98 installed.
¿Y No Era Y Que Pa’Lante Que Íbamos?
From: United States
¿Y No Era Y Que Pa’Lante Que Íbamos?
________________________________________________
Si como lo cangrejos Pa Lante y Para Tras. : )
There are good universities there see PUCMM, see UNAPEC, UNPHU, UASD and others that with few resources are preparing the actual students, that in a near future would become the teachers for students in the future.
Let's propose new things for our univrsities, for our education system instead of critize, and if you have a good methodology from Houston, it is welcomed to our great nation.
Have a nice day =))
This is consistent for the current ruler into his 12 year cycle.
Build a METRO for no riders and graduate students for no jobs!
Now stop it!
You know that our educational problems in DR were solved by LIE-onel Fernandez's in first term.
In fact like the GOD he is to some he did it in 7 days.
Now he is on to more important priorities like METROS!
Not the cueros on the METRO!
Belly, good point...but if you'd have the chance to select the current situation or nothing, like no universities what do you prefer?
There is no such things as no universities and we have to get off the mentality that we have to accept else we get nothing because we are the ones paying for it with the salary and tax money so they don't have the option to give us nothing unless we allow them to do it remember government get the money from us the public.PUCMM is expensive and not really worth the price for the education, I sat down one day in a classroom there and the teacher couldn't tell the difference between Redhat Linux and Ubuntu linux and now ask your self if the business world runs on Linux then how do you explain the teacher of one os our best universities is teaching a class where he can't tell the difference between option A and B something he should be dominant on.
The UASD is another example of a failure.Just look at Leonel a honor student there and asked your self why was he a honor student something I have been asking my self because as a book writer he is weak and as a president I have yet to hear him speak like leaders do in a speech that doesn't goes around in circles and end up saying nothing. Go check out most of his speech in writing and try reading them and at the end ask your self what was the point of this speech because it may have lasted 45 minutes and basically said nothing in meaningful content.The UASD a 500 year old higher education school that still can't produce a Aspirina or give a environment report in Los Haitises trust worthy and not needing second hand opinion from experts at UN.
a girl working at a strip club in Santiago can make in one night more money than a professional makes in an entire month... Or she simply gets a boy friend from nueva yoi...
She went back to finish a degree in Computer Science. The first two weeks the Professor of Computer Science didn't show up. No calls no notices no nuttins. She ended up failing the course because the teacher was never there. Univ of Santo Domingo is the only internationally accredited school in the country but since government run these people don't give a crap about anything. How very typical how the ills of the society carries through even into the higher education.
there are some good international schools in Santiago too. The only way a degree from DR is good is if you finish and then leave to USA or EURO... Then you will see some $$$
Some girls can live pretty nice by having a few novios from the states... Their only working expense is travel expenses from her house to caribe express
we have way too many lawyers and Business Adm. and General Administartive roles that lack of the meat and core understanding of material transformation and information management both vital for 3rd world countries willing to move to next level. Our poor understanding of technology is what have hindered the progress of Free Zones to the next phase and we have ended up losing our industrial potential.
Emphasis on BLOW!
Students receive basically no elementary or high school education or mediocre a best and we are surprised they can't compete if the are lucky enough to make to the university.
brugal helps them study
Leonel y la educación
Andrés L. Mateo
jueves, 11 de febrero de 2010, 01:00 a.m.
Cualquiera piensa que era una meta exagerada el 4% para la inversión en educación consignado en la Ley 66-97 promulgada por el presidente Leonel Fernández en el 1997.
Pero el más somero vistazo a las escalas del financiamiento público en educación en el resto de los países americanos nos indica que ese porcentaje del Producto Interno Bruto (16% del gasto público total), lo que nos hubiera permitido apenas es alcanzar el nivel de inversión que la región tenía para esa época.
Los datos revelan que tanto el presidente Fernández, en su gobierno del 1996 al 2000, como el presidente Hipólito Mejía, en los dos primeros años de su gobierno, tenían conciencia de la importancia de mantener el ritmo de la inversión pública en educación, puesto que el ascenso sostenido del gasto en educación llegó en esa época, por única y última vez, al 2.5% en porcentaje del PIB.
En el “Informe Nacional de Desarrollo humano 2005” se prevé que para un país con las características del nuestro el mínimo de la inversión debería ser 4.6% del PIB. Y ello no para empujar una revolución en el sistema, sino para cubrir las necesidades mínimas del desempeño.
Somos el país que menos invierte en educación en América Latina, y tenemos un presidente que se llena la boca citando en todos los cónclaves internacionales a los pensadores de la posmodernidad.
Continued:
¿Qué puede esperar un país, en un gobierno de un “modernizador”, cuyo concepto de prioridad es destinar el 29% menos de la inversión pública en educación que los otros países de similar desarrollo en la región, en relación con el ingreso percápita?
No estamos haciendo una pregunta retórica, porque los resultados están ahí, y si el Metro es su orgullo, el desempeño de la educación debería ser su vergüenza.
Continued:
¡Oh, Dios!
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You should have never dropped out of school Banistan or at least stayed until you got to the part about free speech and the First Amendment!