Santiago.- The CEO of the State-owned Power Companies (CDEEE) yesterday said the country’s 40 year long “charlatanism” of theft and deception in the country’s electrical system cannot continue any longer and needs to be solved in some manner.
Celso Marranzini said it’s unacceptable to continue believing the CDEE is political booty and the heavy criticism if someone tries to solve the problem.
He said efforts are being made to improve the sector, because it’s shameful for the country to have one of the world’s most outdated energy systems.
The official revealed he’s been the victim of the cruelest attacks in the last few weeks which don’t concern him since he knew what he was getting into and because it’s not his fault the CDEEEE’s money has been “sucked down a black hole.”
Marranzini, speaking yesterday in a luncheon hosted by Santiago and Cibao business groups, said he believes that “charlatanism” is over because the taxpayers’ money used in the subsidies can better help education and build highways.
The industrialists
The industrialists however, clarified that they aren’t requesting the energy subsidy and instead a more efficient service.
“By efficient we understand a system which allows most Dominicans to pay for electricity at fair and reasonable prices,” said Free Zone Industries president Aquiles Bermúdez.
Written by: juanb, 25 Feb 2010 10:11 AM
From: Dominican Republic
This guy deserves our support.
If he gets a little help from the government (even though it might mean firing a couple of hundred PLD members who do nothing to receive their huge salaries) he can resolve this ongoing disgrace.
From: United States
His statements are so on the mark. But here is the problem "shameful for the country to have one of the world’s most outdated energy systems. "
Dominicans are shameless, they just blame it on someone else. They have never been taught to take responsibility. It is obvious because their president (who should lead by example) is not accountable for ANYTHING. He just talks shit.
Written by: ateo2010 
, 25 Feb 2010 10:34 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Owning Noobs
thanks for the link gmiller261 amazing!
From: United States
That is a nice idea. Hopefully it becomes reality and available quickly. Then the DR government will try to stick their greedy hands in someplace with extra taxes or something. Also at that cost this device will be outside the reach of a lot of people besides those who already have enough money for a good planta.
From: United States
It is a reality, once we can get the micro chip technology involved it will be as cheap as a CPU.
They are currently building one a day. Mass production will change all that.
If US politics do not squash it, I say 5 years and I will be willing to pay 10K for his product, even though he is saying 3K.
Written by: Lopez31, 25 Feb 2010 11:09 AM
From: United States
Celso,
Don't listen to the trash and keep up the fine work you are doing!
Written by: Lopez31, 25 Feb 2010 11:09 AM
From: United States
Celso,
Don't listen to the trash and keep up the fine work you are doing!
From: Dominican Republic
Gmiller,
Way to go bro ! Yes, the Dominicans love to blame it all on the serpent in the garden while refusing to accept personal responsibility for thier actions and the current state of affairs . Maybe once they have untangled all those wires they can replace all of those tired battle weary mules at the border with motoconchos .
From: United States
one of the qualities of the local spirit here is the propensity to assign blame to everything but one´s self. just about every foreigner i have met here comments on this national weakness. it is one thing which strikes you right away. a guy makes a bad play in a game of dominoes, and he blames the onlookers for muttering while he ponders. people do not grow up and act maturely. it is as if they hit an adulthood wall somewhere at about age 14, and remain adolescents forever. that is why everything is like a child´s game. bettering the country is a non starter, because that is too complex a task. it is better to make long winded speeches, filled with pomp , promises and bluster, deliver nothing, and steal everything. then, off i go to play the game of ¨ who has the shinier jeepeta with the loudest stereo ¨.
From: Dominican Republic
Dreadlocks shoots and scores !
From: United States
here, here DL.
You said it a lot better, But I've always said they stop at an 11 year old.
From: United States
gmiller, i was being kind when i said 14 years. you are being realistic when you say 11. however you slice it, nobody gets to the age of majority, 18 years old.
From: Dominican Republic
Intresting,
When I first moved to the D.R and set up shop , I remember a local foriegner saying to me,
'' When opening a business in the D.R , You have to remember that on the average ,your dealing with 10 year old mentalities '' . After 2 months on the island and a failed business , I realized that truer words have never spoken .
From: United States
dominicanheartbeat, these are realities here. you cannot just make this stuff up. i have no formal education in psychology and culture, but i wish i did, so i could understand why it is that adulthood is such a challenge here.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
what dread describes is a trait to one extent or the other of all West Indian peoples .......some are much worse at accepting responsibility for their actions than here
From: United States
would you care to elucidate your assertion, Blutarsky, or is this another of your predictable rants against the British caribbean ? show me where expats have made this observation about the state of things in other islands, to the degree they have done so about this country. otherwise, you will simply cause me to wonder if, in your case, protracted adolescence is contagious.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Poor dreads Paranoia gets the best of him again ......." Dont Stop the Carnival " every ex-pat who knows the islands knows this .....and put the French islands in as " The Comedians " ..and of course the ex-pat portrait of the Spanish Antilles among others " Our Man in Havana "
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Read them all Dread you will feel right at home
Written by: danny00, 25 Feb 2010 6:41 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
GOOD COMMENT GMILLER
Dominicans are shameless, they just blame it on someone else. They have never been taught to take responsibility. It is obvious because their president (who should lead by example) is not accountable for ANYTHING.,
LETS BLAME IT ON UNCLE SAM AND THE C.I.A.
RESPONSIBILITY...... LOOK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GET INTO A CAR.....PROBLEM IS IN THE DR EVERY ONE WANTS TO DO WHAT HE WANTS WHEN HE WANTS TO.
NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE OR ANY THING. IN THEIR WAY LIKE KIDS IN A CANDY STORE....THE GUYS IN GOVERNMENT CARE THAT MOST DOMINICANS LIVE 1/2 THEIR LIVES IN THE DARK?....MOST ARE UNEDUCATED AND ILLITERATE?...DO THEY CARE ABOUT THIS?
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
This man was given an impossible job and he knew that when he took it.
The Dominican energy problem cannot be solved with speeches and empty promises, because it represents a substantive paradox: it is simple yet very complex. At its root is fact that population expects to have access to electricity-even if it does not pay for it and blatantly steals it, then you have an inept government, which needs to be needed and looks the other way.
Neither Celso nor his successor will fix this problem, because to correct this Dominicans will need a cultural revolution and paradigm shift, with integrity at its core, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
I am alone in this thinking, I am sure-but, frankly, I don't see a whole lot of difference between Celso and the others. None of them accomplished anything, and dreaded apagones remain; also, the bills remain unpaid. Perhaps we should le t Figueroa Agosto run the whole show, instead.
MJEV.
Written by: josean, 25 Feb 2010 8:38 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Dr. Strangelove,
Have you seen Mr. Marranzini’s 5, 10, 15, or 20 year detailed ACTION plan on how to fix this catastrophe?
Written by: BASTA, 25 Feb 2010 8:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
couple of hundred PLD No; 8,000 to be cut + INAPA etc etc
It is so bad here that Fernandez should do the Honorable thing and commit sucide! Unless he puts me in charge of garbage collections in SD so I can give employment to my relatives.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Dean Josean,
I clearly haven't. However, it is just a plan and the proof would be in the implementation.
I am most skeptical of Dominican appointed officials and all politicians and I don't trust any of them. I am sorry, But I am just over fifty years of age, and I would be hard-pressed to cite more than a child's handful of honorable officials and/or politicians in DR-no matter how honest they might seem.
Until I see concrete evidence of accomplishments from Celso, I shall remain equally skeptical of his capacity to effect honest and positive changes for the Dominican people, relative to energy situation. I know you are all very fond of this gentleman but, like the famous quote from movie "Jerry Maguire", I say: "show me the money". And I do believe that his accomplishments will be very limited and that 10 years from now we will still have apagones, just like we have always had.
MJEV.
Written by: josean, 25 Feb 2010 11:17 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
I agree doc that why I posed the question, nobody has.
So I wonder why people are so enthusiastic about this fellow, who has put no cards on the table other than some symbolic firings to grab media headlines and take the heat of the do nothing LIE-onel Fernandez.
Written by: lovingit, 26 Feb 2010 1:28 AM
From: United States, Delaware
gmiller
They went public with what stock symbol?
I can't seem to locate it under Bloom Energy nor under their previous name Ion America. I am curious as to how low or high their stock started.
From: United States
Sorry, Not public stock options.
The finally came out and detailed their product and beta users. They had been very secretive.
From: Dominican Republic
MJEV and all,
Good comment from MJEV, I would say that first all electricity net should re-design and re-assigned again in all Dominican Republic, starting not to provide electricity to a physical house or company without address. With this we will push to organize the system again, and assure that each Dominican pay electricity, everyday we use it! well! for each day we have to pay it in order to improve our Electricity.
Celso, is one of the best business man in DR, even if we pull the best Dominicans from Harvard, the situation would be the same if we do not cut the root causes of the problems, those problems are few and we can generate electricity even from Sun, and we could provide to all families, companies and entities, and even we could export Electricity to Haiti.
Without Electricity, without energy....there is no longer progress.
Thanks,
Monterrey1975
From: Dominican Republic
La Verdad,
In all fairness, I think all intellectual minds here can agree that this failure to accept responsibility is more immaturity than deliberate ignorance . Worse , is how can we expect an '' ignorant uneducated government '' to provide education to the masses of its own uneducated ? If the blind lead the blind they will both fall into a ditch . After travelling through the majority of some of the poorest countries in Latin America , I would have to agree with Dread that this tragedy is not limited to the island of Hispanola . In fact , I have found this ''universal immaturity '' among the poorest nations to be worse in countries such as Nicaragua and Honduras . Common sense tells us that lack of moral and social education is the driving factor as to why these countries are still dwelling in the caves of a stone age mentality .
From: United States
dominicanheartbeat, i am glad you put things into proper perspective by reminding the reader that the immaturity among adults is not unique to the DR. maybe it has to do with the common thread in latin american societies, that of dictatorial , paternalistic governments, which treat the citizens as children. the citizens accept their roles, and act accordingly. that is probably why they are so fascinated by politicians, and allow them to get away with anything. they see them as their parents who provide for them. so, if they act as good little children, the chieftain will give them a botella job when it becomes available. he will fix the road in their neighborhood, and give them a fountain, or a park. these trinkets are inconsequential in the larger scheme of things, but serves to prove how much pappy loves them. so, come election time, you cannot keep them in their homes, as they swarm into the streets and parks to hail the conquerors of their tribulations. as a reciprocity of duty
From: United States
Don Jose will instruct his minions to make gifts of things that the kids could really use, such as some Brugal and the occasional goat or waterfowl. pigs go flying off the backs of flatbed trucks, which themselves deafen the bystander with raucous interludes of tipico music. all fun and games, befitting a playground ecosystem, but getting everybody nowhere. life in the tropics, folks.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
I hope you are not holding any other island in the Caribbean up as an example of which direction the DR should go dread like you say Life in the Tropics
From: Dominican Republic
Dread,
''To whom much is given much is required '' In a country where there is no longer any margin for excuses , atleast morally and socially speaking , perhaps even more tragic is the decline of the American education system and the laziness that has infected our society coupled with our own neglect of responsibility to instill the value systems of our forefathers in a God forsaken culture that has nothing left to emulate except for a pair of boxers that stick out and a long gold chain to hold them up . In my own church I am amazed at how many parents believe that its the churchs responsibility to educate thier children about God and moral responsibilities . Why ? Because its more important that mom is viewed by her little princess as '' you go girl friend '' then a sheperd of her spirit .
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
heartbeat ..........Pass the collection plate
From: United States
Blutarsky, i would never suggest the direction in which any nation should travel. i leave that up to Massa. as you well know, none of us darlin darkies should saddle ourselves with such weighty matters, when there is so much limbo left to be danced.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Play " Yellow Bird " again dread
From: Dominican Republic
Blu,
Didnt mama send you out to the dollar store with your allowance to buy another bathroom humor jokebook ?
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
From: Dominican Republic
100% Reengineering process should be executed at CDEEE, in all sides, up and down. To live without electricity is like to live without oxygen.
Written by: josean, 26 Feb 2010 8:43 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Without You Tube, Fix News, and Radio Marti, Banisatn would be so lost!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Written by: josean, 26 Feb 2010 9:03 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
My point is proven!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Your point is on top of your head
Written by: josean, 27 Feb 2010 9:40 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
The ladies say it more like a mushroom but I am more modest!
From: Dominican Republic
Blu,
Our church does not pass a collection plate nor does it ask for contributions , However , there is a box in the back of the sanctuary that you can put your offerings to God in if He so stirs your heart to do so the next time you visit.
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If he gets a little help from the government (even though it might mean firing a couple of hundred PLD members who do nothing to receive their huge salaries) he can resolve this ongoing disgrace.
His statements are so on the mark. But here is the problem "shameful for the country to have one of the world’s most outdated energy systems. "
Dominicans are shameless, they just blame it on someone else. They have never been taught to take responsibility. It is obvious because their president (who should lead by example) is not accountable for ANYTHING. He just talks shit.
The beginning of the end for these blood sucking scum bag.
Watch the 60 minutes, they went public yesterday.
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/201....s-off-your-electric-co/?icid=main|main|dl5|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Fblog%2F2010%2F02%2F23%2Fbloom-box-will-you-finally-be-able-to-kiss-off-your-electric-co%2F
They are currently building one a day. Mass production will change all that.
If US politics do not squash it, I say 5 years and I will be willing to pay 10K for his product, even though he is saying 3K.
Don't listen to the trash and keep up the fine work you are doing!
Don't listen to the trash and keep up the fine work you are doing!
Way to go bro ! Yes, the Dominicans love to blame it all on the serpent in the garden while refusing to accept personal responsibility for thier actions and the current state of affairs . Maybe once they have untangled all those wires they can replace all of those tired battle weary mules at the border with motoconchos .
You said it a lot better, But I've always said they stop at an 11 year old.
When I first moved to the D.R and set up shop , I remember a local foriegner saying to me,
'' When opening a business in the D.R , You have to remember that on the average ,your dealing with 10 year old mentalities '' . After 2 months on the island and a failed business , I realized that truer words have never spoken .
Dominicans are shameless, they just blame it on someone else. They have never been taught to take responsibility. It is obvious because their president (who should lead by example) is not accountable for ANYTHING.,
LETS BLAME IT ON UNCLE SAM AND THE C.I.A.
RESPONSIBILITY...... LOOK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GET INTO A CAR.....PROBLEM IS IN THE DR EVERY ONE WANTS TO DO WHAT HE WANTS WHEN HE WANTS TO.
NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE OR ANY THING. IN THEIR WAY LIKE KIDS IN A CANDY STORE....THE GUYS IN GOVERNMENT CARE THAT MOST DOMINICANS LIVE 1/2 THEIR LIVES IN THE DARK?....MOST ARE UNEDUCATED AND ILLITERATE?...DO THEY CARE ABOUT THIS?
This man was given an impossible job and he knew that when he took it.
The Dominican energy problem cannot be solved with speeches and empty promises, because it represents a substantive paradox: it is simple yet very complex. At its root is fact that population expects to have access to electricity-even if it does not pay for it and blatantly steals it, then you have an inept government, which needs to be needed and looks the other way.
Neither Celso nor his successor will fix this problem, because to correct this Dominicans will need a cultural revolution and paradigm shift, with integrity at its core, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
I am alone in this thinking, I am sure-but, frankly, I don't see a whole lot of difference between Celso and the others. None of them accomplished anything, and dreaded apagones remain; also, the bills remain unpaid. Perhaps we should le t Figueroa Agosto run the whole show, instead.
MJEV.
Dr. Strangelove,
Have you seen Mr. Marranzini’s 5, 10, 15, or 20 year detailed ACTION plan on how to fix this catastrophe?
It is so bad here that Fernandez should do the Honorable thing and commit sucide! Unless he puts me in charge of garbage collections in SD so I can give employment to my relatives.
I clearly haven't. However, it is just a plan and the proof would be in the implementation.
I am most skeptical of Dominican appointed officials and all politicians and I don't trust any of them. I am sorry, But I am just over fifty years of age, and I would be hard-pressed to cite more than a child's handful of honorable officials and/or politicians in DR-no matter how honest they might seem.
Until I see concrete evidence of accomplishments from Celso, I shall remain equally skeptical of his capacity to effect honest and positive changes for the Dominican people, relative to energy situation. I know you are all very fond of this gentleman but, like the famous quote from movie "Jerry Maguire", I say: "show me the money". And I do believe that his accomplishments will be very limited and that 10 years from now we will still have apagones, just like we have always had.
MJEV.
I agree doc that why I posed the question, nobody has.
So I wonder why people are so enthusiastic about this fellow, who has put no cards on the table other than some symbolic firings to grab media headlines and take the heat of the do nothing LIE-onel Fernandez.
They went public with what stock symbol?
I can't seem to locate it under Bloom Energy nor under their previous name Ion America. I am curious as to how low or high their stock started.
Sorry, Not public stock options.
The finally came out and detailed their product and beta users. They had been very secretive.
Good comment from MJEV, I would say that first all electricity net should re-design and re-assigned again in all Dominican Republic, starting not to provide electricity to a physical house or company without address. With this we will push to organize the system again, and assure that each Dominican pay electricity, everyday we use it! well! for each day we have to pay it in order to improve our Electricity.
Celso, is one of the best business man in DR, even if we pull the best Dominicans from Harvard, the situation would be the same if we do not cut the root causes of the problems, those problems are few and we can generate electricity even from Sun, and we could provide to all families, companies and entities, and even we could export Electricity to Haiti.
Without Electricity, without energy....there is no longer progress.
Thanks,
Monterrey1975
In all fairness, I think all intellectual minds here can agree that this failure to accept responsibility is more immaturity than deliberate ignorance . Worse , is how can we expect an '' ignorant uneducated government '' to provide education to the masses of its own uneducated ? If the blind lead the blind they will both fall into a ditch . After travelling through the majority of some of the poorest countries in Latin America , I would have to agree with Dread that this tragedy is not limited to the island of Hispanola . In fact , I have found this ''universal immaturity '' among the poorest nations to be worse in countries such as Nicaragua and Honduras . Common sense tells us that lack of moral and social education is the driving factor as to why these countries are still dwelling in the caves of a stone age mentality .
''To whom much is given much is required '' In a country where there is no longer any margin for excuses , atleast morally and socially speaking , perhaps even more tragic is the decline of the American education system and the laziness that has infected our society coupled with our own neglect of responsibility to instill the value systems of our forefathers in a God forsaken culture that has nothing left to emulate except for a pair of boxers that stick out and a long gold chain to hold them up . In my own church I am amazed at how many parents believe that its the churchs responsibility to educate thier children about God and moral responsibilities . Why ? Because its more important that mom is viewed by her little princess as '' you go girl friend '' then a sheperd of her spirit .
Didnt mama send you out to the dollar store with your allowance to buy another bathroom humor jokebook ?
Without You Tube, Fix News, and Radio Marti, Banisatn would be so lost!
My point is proven!
The ladies say it more like a mushroom but I am more modest!
Our church does not pass a collection plate nor does it ask for contributions , However , there is a box in the back of the sanctuary that you can put your offerings to God in if He so stirs your heart to do so the next time you visit.