Oh, it's gonna change alright. Sooner than later.

Here is the solution nice and simple. Stop Stealing from the public coffers. Morons.

NEO-liberalism was, is and always will be a failure but for the few elites and the super corrupt politicians i.e. the 1%.

Which in DR translates to Lie-onel Fernandez , his wife in need of Weight Watchers, and the criminals of the PLD's Political Committee!

Straight to the point foresthill.. no messing around with long winded drawn out arguments.

To many pigs at the feeding trough of public money and no real work being done by them..

If the unbelievable amounts of corruption were contained almost all of our problems would be fixed at the same time. Problem is no way to contain our corruption as our whole government is rotten to the core. Need an outside country to come in and take the country over to replace the government from the top down and kill off the corrupt officials with no remorse.

The rebellion against neo-liberalism is gaining steam!

Danilo throws Lie-onel and his economic NARCO-MARCO miracle under the METRO:

“Danilo spoke out yesterday, he said that crime would only be reduced if education quality in public schools is improved and people's purchasing power increases.”

"If we do not improve education in the schools and create the conditions for our young people to enter the productive world, then social peace in the Dominican Republic will be a chimera," he said.

“He said that 68% of the economically active population has a monthly income under RD$10,000.”

“He was speaking during a gala dinner held in his honor in San Francisco de Macoris, coordinated by Juan Octavio Ceballos, a former minister of public health, with the attendance of PLD senator Amilcar Romero, deputies Juan Compres, Juan Jose Rosario and Lupe Nunez, provincial governor Luz Selene Plata and community leaders, as reported in acento.com.do”

Lie-onel is not a happy camper!

The handling of the economy and the agreement with the IMF:

The Central Bank and the IMF lock horns; Is there a crisis or not?

http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph....omia-y-el-acuerdo-con-el-FMI.html

Earth (or is it UR-anus) to Atabey, Lie-onel and all those that pray at the Altar of NEO-liberalism:


World economy in turmoil

Mrs. Lagarde said:

“There is no economy in the world, whether low-income countries, emerging markets, middle-income countries or super-advanced economies that will be immune to the crisis that we see not only unfolding but escalating”

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....16/42020/World-economy-in-turmoil

The Government could not twist the IMF’s arm


"Contrary to what happened during the administration of Strauss Kahn, the International Monetary Fund managed by Christine Lagarde was not "surprised" by the heavy lobbying the Dominican Government set in motion."

"With a fiscal deficit of 6% of gross domestic product (GDP), the Dominican economy, that does not generate domestic savings, goes to financing in a perfect Ponzi scheme. The ball is growing each year with each of the Government budgets."

I guess getting a few women to “entertain” Mr. Strauss Kahn so he would look the other way as Lie-onel and the PLD filled their coffers is no longer an option!

I hope Mrs. Lagarde is not into Sanky Pankies!


http://www.7dias.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=112767

Josean, who cares if Leo's wife is fat? That is completely below any rational thinking person. Shame on you.

well, maybe he has a point, since the only other country in Latin America, besides the DR, in which poverty INCREASED betwen 2000 and 2005, is Uruguay, which is not , exactly, a bastion of progressiveness.

Ok! Ok!

So I will also get a Weight Watchers gift card for Hipólito!

The only hope is to end the culture of corruption.

We have been entertained by the preachings of T.Montas for many years now. He is capable of only saying A) what the people want to hear and B) whatever he is told to say by his puppet master. If I never read a story telling me of his latest pronouncement I will be much happier.

In regard to the overweight wife comment. ... recently it was determined by the un that as many starving people on the earth was matched by the number of those obese. ... lack of self control is/seems to be inherent within the dr political structure. ...

SO. ... step away from the table and let the starving eat. .... how many starving people are there in the dr. ...

Let me guess.....These "Outstanding" economist believe the DR should turn even more to crony-Socialism and Government control.

Anthony it’s like your God, Ronald Regan said when asked if he wasn't going to bankrupt the US economy trying to out spend the Soviets on the military, he said yes but the Soviets would go bankrupt first.

Guess what he was right on both counts we are all bankrupt now!

Written by: Vivacuba, 17 Dec 2011 9:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Oh, it's gonna change alright. Sooner than later
WITH PEOPLE LIKE U IN THE DR SURE THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE I HAVE NO 2ND. THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

LOL LOL

united states is far call from being russia, russia is one dead country now.
united states is still #1 in the world.

folks cheer for china u know the american haters, i have some bad news 4 them. if the united states would stop doing business with china the world could come to a stop as we know it now. be a real free fall for all the worlds economys. speaking about russia maybe a few know who peter the 1st was, well then they would know what he did 4 russia, took them from a land lock, very back ward old fashion country into a world leader., { he looked toward the west and went that way} now here is one man that cared about his country thats what the dr needs in office and in power not guys that run the bus routes and supermarkets u have the power but the president of the dr .

anthony it’s like your god, ronald regan
my god also.....
u have any idea how many jobs he created?
other countires had fear from the united states when he was in office they knew he had no problem to pull the tirgger s...t the wall came down did it not. he did not care if the united states was liked by other countires but that as he said they better fear and respect us.

FedericoD,

"how many starving people are there in the dr."

Zip, Zilch, Zero.......NADA!

Josie is blaming Ronald Reagan now for the ridiculous amount of wasteful spending on entitlements, oppressive business regulations and the crony-socialism that has ruined the world's economies.

Why do we even bother to read his posts?

"other countires had fear from the united states when he was in office they knew he had no problem to pull the tirgger s...t the wall came down did it not. he did not care if the united states was liked by other countires but that as he said they better fear and respect us."


Are you nuts Ronald Regan created Osama bin Laden.


He also ran with his tail between his legs when the American Marines were boomed in Lebanon.

"In the attack on the American Marines barracks, the death toll was 241 American servicemen: 220 Marines, 18 Navy personnel and three Army soldiers, along with sixty Americans injured, representing the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima of World War II, the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States military since the first day of the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War, and the deadliest single attack on Americans overseas since World War II."

Continued:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

Then to save face he invades Grenada a "Major World Threat" while he created the enviorment for Osama to fester into what became 9/11!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada

"Why do we even bother to read his posts?"

Answer your question Mr. Alpha 66?

Ronal Regan praises "Osama bin Laden":

"Every country and every people has a stake in the Afghan resistance, for the "freedom fighters" of Afghanistan are defending principles of independence and freedom that form the basis of global security and stability."

The only time I would use the word outstanding with regards to Economy minister Temístocles Montás is as follows:

"Not being smart enough to come in, Economy minister Temístocles Montás was still outstanding in the rain."

Of course the economic model has to change! So seal off and do it!

Seal off. .. try french canadian translation for clarity. ....

anthonyC is the biggest hypocrite on this or any other forum. He regurgitates his faux unparalleled "support" of the US Constitution, yet he gives Reagan a pass on subjugating that same constitution on Iran-Contra. Even when told is was constitutionally illegal and warned it was an impeachable offense, Reagan commits to pissing on the US Constitution, (read Caspar Weinberger, US Sec. Of Defense, Iran-Contra, meeting notes) the same constitution that our most unabashed hypocritical resident, anthonyC, claims to uphold and revere.

If the tenets of socialism are true in that they seek to redistribute wealth, increase tax revenues, government and spending, then Reagan was the biggest socialist of all since in his tenure, he redistributed the wealth of the masses directly to the wealthiest 1%, at the expense of the middle class. He increased the size of government, incurred massive economic deficits, oh, and yes, raised taxes 7 times. anthonyC always follows the anti-intellectual script.

devin11,

I am extremely glad for your erudite contribution.

However, I must warn you, as I warn my brother Dread, you gentlemen are exposing yourselves to a charge of mental child abuse by presenting FACTS to Alpha 66 no matter how well intentioned your motives are!

PS

Good to hear from you sir!

it is always a pleasure to read the insightful observations of the foremost scholar of our thing here, Devin. as he points out, with his unimpeachable reasoning, anthonyc is a member in good standing of the fraternity of the great academic unwashed, despite the fact that he claims to be the holder of a doctorate. suffice it to say, Reagan and Maggie Tthatcher bear a large part of the responsibility for the anorexic economic conditions which plague the world today.

"Controlled exchange rate of 38.5"

The real exchange rate is in the 45-50 to 1 range.

Economy minister Temístocles Montás warning is subtle so one must read between the lines.

Take away narco money foreign investment and tourisim and the DR is back to selling banana's.

Santo Domingo.– Economy minister Temístocles Montás agreed with outstanding economists that the model carried out in the Dominican Republic over the past ten years has collapsed and needs to be changed.

how about the economic system of the last 50 years need to change! , this country has been a whor@ house for corruption and stealing , why dont they take a page out of costa rica , eliminate your military budget , and use that budget to further build your education for dominican citizens , with that same budget , you could build a stronger police forced , and if you think about the domican republic is already has a good economy with there tourism . you dont need a new economic model? just a couple of changes , imigration laws and corruption with our military are the two biggest problems facing the dominican republic , if you think about it clearly there is no reason to have a military in the dominican republic .

hellborn, you make a lot of sense.

mr dreads thanks , although I do hold some conservative ideas to a high regard for some countries , I however do not see any good reason for a small island like the dominican republic to have a such high budget for the military , not to mention that most of there military officials are somehow always involved in drug trafficking and have like 30 medals on there clothes that they never earned.

Written by: dreadlocks, 17 Dec 2011 11:29 AM
From: United States

well, maybe he has a point, since the only other country in Latin America, besides the DR, in which poverty INCREASED betwen 2000 and 2005, is Uruguay, which is not , exactly, a bastion of progressiveness."

How little you know about Uruguay. Perhaps you should do a little bit of reading regarding the small republic.

But that's just Par for the Course dear Dready.

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Josea, 5 AM hockey wake up time is not so easy. As to the point about Neo-Liberalism and producing the goods for all sectors in the society.

I'm not sure you have kept pace with the readings regarding this same issue; but here are just a small samplings:

Development After the Crisis

By Nancy Birdsall and Francis Fukuyama
March/April 2011

Latin America poverty level lowest in 20 years, says UN
Peru is among the countries registering the biggest drop in poverty but life is still hard for many
Continue reading the main story
Related Stories

Latin America set for 4.7% growth
China 'powers LatAm investment'
Brazil: Boom or bubble?

Poverty in Latin America is at its lowest level for 20 years, the UN's regional economic body, Eclac, says.

From 1990 to 2010, the rate fell from 48.4% to 31.4%, which means 177 million people currently live in poverty.

Eclac says the main reason for the reduction in poverty and inequality is the rise in household incomes."

Moisés Naím analiza en su artículo las razones de por qué Chile vive desde hace varios meses continuas manifestaciones estudiantiles. El país disfruta de varios años de gran éxito económico, además de ostentar el primer lugar en la lista de indicadores como desarrollo humano y baja corrupción en Latinoamérica ¿Por qué existe tal descontento soc

¿Tiene razón la clase media para quejarse? ¿Qué hacer para reducir la desigualdad económica? ¿Los estudiantes alcanzarán su objetivo de una educación de calidad a un menor coste manteniéndose en pie de lucha?¿Están justificadas las protestas estudiantiles en Chile?

MOISÉS NAÍM
La desigualdad tóxica

MOISÉS NAÍM 27/11/2011



Sería sorprendente que no hubiese protestas en las calles de Atenas, Madrid o Nueva York. El desempleo y la precariedad económica bastarían para convertir a millones de resignados en indignados. Pero, además, el constatar que algunos de los causantes de la crisis ahora se están lucrando de ella produce una reacción humana casi natural: apagar la televisión y salir a la calle a protestar. Esto es fácil de entender. Pero lo que no es fácil de entender es por qué esto también pasa en Chile. ¿Y que importa que en Chile las calles estén encendidas?

Es un pequeño y remoto país sudamericano cuyas circunstancias afectan poco a los demás. Esto es verdad, pero entender lo que está pasando en Chile da pistas útiles para entender la ola de indignación y protestas que hoy vemos en otras partes."

Construir una escuela o un hospital es más fácil que mejorar la calidad de la educación o la sanidad

Los chilenos deberían estar celebrando, no protestando: este es uno de los países más exitosos del mundo. A finales de los ochenta, el 45% de su población era pobre, hoy es el 14%. Dos décadas de acelerado crecimiento económico, el aumento del empleo y los salarios han contribuido al progreso social. Además, la inflación, que siempre afecta más a los pobres, cayó del 27% anual en 1990 al 3%. Cualquier país europeo envidiaría las cifras de la economía chilena.

Y, en casi cualquier ranking de países, Chile se sitúa entre los primeros lugares (y en todas las listas es el número uno de América Latina): baja corrupción, desarrollo humano, competitividad internacional, libertad económica, conectividad y muchos otros. Y sin embargo... desde hace meses hay protestas en las calles. Estallaron durante el Gobierno anterior, presidido por Michelle Bachelet, y después de las elecciones -ganadas por la oposición- continuaron con el nuevo Gobierno. Comenzaron con una protesta puntual por la construcción de una represa y escalaron a masivas manifestaciones contra la baja calidad y el alto costo de la educación."

What is clearly going on is a mismatch between EXPECTATIONS and REALITY. More people than ever have higher expectations for a good life and want the maximum for their off-springs. As with all models put into practice, the Neo-liberlal model needs some adjustments: more monies for education, for instance. And Chile is providing more.

Temo Montas has zero credibility and beyond his well trimmed and spic and span public persona, underneath lies a plutocrat, with insatiable cravings for devouring public funds.

hellborn25
The DR military's medals can be translated to:
1. Not falling asleep often, while attending the staff command school.
2. Reaching his monetary quota for charging entry to Haitian illegals.
3. Attending all the barbecues and parties of the officers club.
4. Continuous and uninterrupted pandering to different civilian presidents.
5. Completing successfully and by himself all the paperwork for repeated automobile duty free exonerations.
6. Discreetly servicing their fincas and queridas, without attracting public scrutiny.

duplicate

Hellborn25,


"eliminate your military budget"

"clearly there is no reason to have a military in the dominican republic"


It will never happen with this Chicken Shit we have for president or with Chicken Shit 2, if he were to miraculously get elected.

Remember Lie-onel is on record saying that he soils his Fruit of the Looms every time he thinks about going after the corrupt military.

“In the U.S. Embassy classified cable of October 28, 2004, part of the group provided to News source SIN by WikiLeaks, Fernandez told then ambassador Hans Hertell, after the diplomat referred in a conversation on corruption "the well-known practice of the military keeping 10% or more of the contracts," that it was a situation "beyond my (Fernandez) capacity to intervene."

Continued:

“If a Latin American president seriously interferes with that type topic of the military, he risks their attempt against his life,” Fernandez said, according to the cable.”
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....inican-leader-feared-the-generals

So if Danilo wins, who’s an even bigger Punk and Coward than Lie-onel (don’t forget Danilo wets his panties when you mention Lie-onel), the corrupt generals will have even more of a free reign.

However helly, I can’t help but noticing that you have significantly changed your position since September 3rd of this year:

“Written by: hellborn25, 3 Sep 2011 11:54 AM

From: United States, middle class concentration camp

danny writes ............costa rica disbanded their army and put the money into their school system.
u dont see many people from costa rica trying to sneak into the states?

spoken like a coward pacifist , why would a country disband there military , a strong powerfull nation should always have a strong prepared military to defend its nest from outsiders . If chile practices this , it wont be long until a outside nations takeover there country faster , then the germans took over france in world war 2”

So are you a born again pacifist or have you have joined danny’s camp on this issue?

Now for another perspective on the Narco-Marco-Neo-liberal Miracle of the Dominican Adam Smith-Milton Friedman, Lie-onel Fernandez:

"Throughout the year there continued to be intense questions about the policy of investment and social spending which are directed towards the general population that does not perceive the benefits of the economic growth."

"SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic.-year 2011 concludes with so many uncertainties as it began, first institutional and political, and now in the economic order since the Government can’t make up its mind if it wants to or even can maintain the agreement with the International Monetary Fund (IMF), frozen in the last quarter."

"Despite high fiscal deficits with the current balance of payments, with a volatile international economic scenario and higher prices of imports that further aggravate deficit in the balance of payments, the Government managed to maintain macroeconomic stability and growth through a high indebtedness."

continued:

Your doing a good job "brownie!"

http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph....nal-y-en-la-economia-mundial.html

Dice ven amenza en Mejía




SANTO DOMINGO (R. Dominicana). Las agencias internacionales de evaluación de riesgo estarían persuadiendo a potenciales inversionistas del “peligro” que Mejía representa para la estabilidad.

Quite a choice we are going to have in May.

Poor and worse choices. So how will you vote, Juanb?

JuanB,

Please provide us the link to the article you are quoting, I personally keep a file of these items so it would helpful to me.

Thanks!

"Poor and worse choices"

Then there is the Honorable and Moral choice Guillermo Moreno Presidente 2012!

Remember Atabey; "It's not whether you win or lose; its how you play the game,"

Although you appear to pray at the Altar of "Winning isn't everything; It's the only thing."

MacArthur surely noted that fact of war.

That's why he was fired in humiliation by Truman!

Regarding Hipoloco Peligro Mejia, someone said: "The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them."

Here we have another group of happy constituents with the rewards of the PLD’s and Lie-onel’s neo-liberal lift all boats economic policies:


“Farmers denounce corruption and abuse of staff”


“The complaint was made by farmers gathered at the first National Congress of milk producers, held in Boca Chica, Santo Domingo province”


“BOCA CHICA, Dominican Republic-Dominican livestock farmers suffer the indolence of the Government officials who prefer to encourage imports to the detriment of domestic production of milk and meat, a policy that is marked by corruption.”


http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph....maltrato-de-los-funcionarios.html

Written by: josean, 18 Dec 2011 2:06 PM
From: United States

That's why he was fired in humiliation by Truman!"

The North Koreans could only have hoped it happened several years before for in the Inchon invasion, MacArthur gave them a bit to chew on. :)

http://www.kmike.com/inchon.htm

So be Happy every time you start up your Kia Pride!

"Now for another perspective on the Narco-Marco-Neo-liberal Miracle of the Dominican Adam Smith-Milton Friedman, Lie-onel Fernandez:"

Josie you are so out of touch with reality it is beyond belief.

For a laugh explain to us how Milton Friedman and Leonel Fernandez are related? One if a free ,market capitalist(Friedman) and the other is a Crony Socialist, Borderline Fascist(Leonel).

"Borderline Fascist"

That’s the connection with Lie-onel, Milton and you, Alpha 66!

Though, I am glad you enjoy reading my "out of touch with reality" posting and feel so compelled to respond!

Now back to Corruption and Economics in METROLANDIA:


The reverend will not get invited to any neo-liberal parties or government functions this holiday season!


“Corruption and the private sector”

“In another aspect, the pastor Ezekiel Molina said that corruption is an evil that has its origins in the private sector.”

“He argued that it’s the private sector that encourages the corruption of government officials.”

“He added that when a politician takes office immediately characters in the private sector come to you proposing all kinds of business.”

"So it is from the private sector that originates the initiatives to ensure that those who hold public office become involved in unseemly activities," insisted the evangelical pastor."

“However Ezequiel Molina said that does not mean that this or anything else exonerates servants of the public administration that engage in malicious acts and give a misuse to the resources they are entrusted with.”

Continued:

Also read his comments on the rich wife beaters!


http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph....amiliar-que-entre-los-pobres.html

The problem is that loans and foreign aids are used to increase the growth of the DR. Take away the loans and the aids and let's calculate the real growth. Also, the government lots of money to foreign banks and its own employees. Some postal workers work without getting paid for a long period of time. This happens in other sectors where the government intervene. To increase the GDP and the PPP, the DR has to increase the funds on education and create a new education model according to international competition and demand.

If after reading this opinion piece we vote for any of the three major political parties we have to truly check our moral compasses.


The Lack of Respect for….


“There is no respect where thieves - convicted and confessed - of defalcations in the national Treasury are pardoned and are immediately "reinstated" to their "leadership" positions in all three moral latrines that has goverened the country in recent years."

There is lack of respect when you see how the reactive electoral circus, with hemorrhagic fever wastes time and resources, offering, this time, the illusion of "choose" between the bad and the worst, while increasing the economic and social problems of the country, are magnified by indolence, apathy and lack of political will to confront them and seek solutions by those who run public affairs.”

Read the rest if you trurly respect yourself:

http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph..../2701/78/La-falta-de-respeto.html

Juanb,

My old friend first of all please believe when I tell that I have sincere respect for you and a true admiration for your thoughts and how well you express them. You know that you are one of the few whose critiques I value and respond to, even when I am not in agreement with them.

So it’s is with that in mind that I take exception to this post:

“Written by: juanb, 18 Dec 2011 1:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic

Dice ven amenza en Mejía

SANTO DOMINGO (R. Dominicana). Las agencias internacionales de evaluación de riesgo estarían persuadiendo a potenciales inversionistas del “peligro” que Mejía representa para la estabilidad.

Quite a choice we are going to have in May”.

You will note that shortly after you posted I post this:

“Written by: josean, 18 Dec 2011 1:50 PM
From: United States

JuanB,

Please provide us the link to the article you are quoting, I personally keep a file of these items so it would helpful to me.

Thanks!”

Continued:

Not hearing from you for what is now approximately 4 or 5 hours and thinking you might be too busy to give me the link to the source for your posting, I decide to try and find any article related to the comments you posted.

Lo and behold I found the following item at 7dias.com

“Risk assessment agencies see threat in Mejía, says the head of Medina’s campaign”

"SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican R.). International risk assessment agencies would be persuading potential investors in the Dominican Republic of the "danger" to the macroeconomic stability an eventual Government of Hipólito Mejía, stated the campaign Manager for Danilo Medina, the ruling party’s candidate."

So far thats fine.

I thought the reason you summarized the headline and some of the article as well as not providing a link was due to expediency and your style for brevity in posting.

continued:

However, when I read further I come across this statement:

"Without citing any source, Francisco Javier García stated that, on the contrary, Medina is presented as "a factor of stability" and therefore guarantor of progress and development."

http://www.7dias.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=113190

Now Juan, this is troubling to me especially for the high regard I hold in, as it relates to transparency.

Over the years I come to see that your sympathies lean towards the PLD, which is also fine. Currently I place you in the least of two evils camp, and that also fine, in fact I was a card carrying member of that club when I supported Miguel Vargas in the “any but Lie-onel movement” of 2008.
What I am disappointed is in the lack of your clarity in defending your choice, especially by using the same tactics of innuendo and rumors that have been historically so traumatic and devastating to the democratization of our country.

Continued:

God knows there are a million and one things that are DOCUMENTED to attack the PRD and Hipólito without having to resort these Stalinist/McCarthyite tactics.

So my Friend, I am not angry with you, just let down that you would associate yourself with the methods of this Narco-mafia that his currently destroying our country.

¡Con respeto tú Amigo josean!

http://www.listin.com.do/la-repub....ito-como-peligro-para-la-economia

That's your link.

Josie,


You do know that Fascism is a form of Socialism so there is no way people like Milton Friedman and myself can be called Fascist. Unless the name caller is a Fascist themselves as well as ignorant and figures they appear "caring and Kind" by calling those who disagree with them Fascist!


Just like you!!!

Yes, mordadito the same BS reported in 7 dias.com but were are Mr. Garcia's sources?

Josie's Solution for the D.R. include higher Taxes, More Regulation and More free stuff for Union Lackeys!

I bet he think Obama is the best US President since Jimmy Carter

josean ...McCarthy is a hero to the world ... for all the hype about undermining his era the russians had millions in the gulag and killing off their slaves on a daily basis ... I have read estimates of the numbers of communists that were/are still in the US who spied for the commies and got away with it ... McCarthy is a great man and any of his mistakes are nothing in comparison to the stench of death that sticks to Stalin and those who followed him ...

Alpha66,

I agree with your statement:

"Unless the name caller is a Fascist themselves as well as ignorant and figures they appear "caring and Kind" by calling those who disagree with them Fascist!"

And perfect example to prove your thesis is this statement from your extraordinary gray matte ;

"For a laugh explain to us how Milton Friedman and Leonel Fernandez are related? One if a free ,market capitalist(Friedman) and the other is a Crony Socialist, Borderline Fascist(Leonel)."

Therefore, using your sound reasoning and judgment as guidance, as you have brilliantly stated above I conclude you must be a Fascist!

"I bet he think Obama is the best US President since Jimmy Carter"

No, Alpha 66 I wouldn't go that far back, just the best since George Bush jr.!

FedericoD,

I am sure there are people who take a similar view of Hitler after all he killed 10,000,000 atheist commie pigs during his invasion of the Soviet Union in WW II.

But then again there are people that Like “Uncle Joe Stalin” when he was our ally and helped us put the Nazis into the dust bin of history before most of Europe began speaking German.

Ah what a tangled web we humans weave!

Oh Boy, another segment of the society loses patience with the Neo-liberal economic mumbo-jumbo of Lie-onel, FUNGLODE and Atabey:


"Employers argue enough already with the diagnosing they demand results"

'SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic-the Association of industrial enterprises of Herrera and Santo Domingo province (AEIH) are advocating for an end to the "era of diagnoses", that always reaches the same conclusions with regards to the productive sectors, especially relating to local manufacturing."

http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph....iagnostico-y-reclaman-hechos.html

Josie,


How old are you?

Another example of the job creating measures under the PLD neo-liberal economic polices


“Dominicans survive thanks to the sale of drugs”


“SANTIAGO-The President of the national transport workers (CNTT), Juan Marte, asserted that Dominicans are surviving thanks to few employers that provide jobs, the solidarity card and 31 thousand drug selling spots which, in his view, exist in different parts of the country.”

What was that catchy little phrase my purple friends use to love to shout?

Oh! I remember: ¡Eh P'a Lante Que Vamos!

http://www.almomento.net/news/127/ARTICLE/102390/2011-12-18.html

Josean, brilliant mastering of anthonyC, however he is beyond help. Hopefully he will hit the wall sooner than later.

@ Devin11 / Josean

You're sight is right !

Josie continues to spew his vile, racist, ignorance all in the name of self-aggrandizing. His lack of understanding of even the most basic of economics or recognition of the freedom of the individual is the exact same arguments used by Hitler, Mao, Lenin and Castro to fool the masses.

Alpha66,

You forgot Stalin and Pol-Pot just to name a few!

anthonyc has already hit the wall, ScandiViking. eitther that, or the wall has hit him. he is, excepting for Atabey, the most ignorant human being that i have had the singular displeasure of reading. two guys, whose collective IQs do not break the baker's dozen.

Atabey, when ever you choose to be an idiot, which appears to be every moment of your life, you should at least select your fights , carefuly.

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Social Panorama of Latin America 2006
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public policy issues raised by the increasing heterogeneity of family types and ... The most recent data available for the Latin American countries (for 2005) show .... At the other extreme, the Dominican Republic and Uruguay are the only countries where both poverty and indigence rates worsened between 2002 and 2005. .

now, go get some literate member of your immediate circle, if there is such a thing, and have them read this data to you. the last sentence is the one i mantioned in my posting. you are entirely pathetic , not to mention, uninformed, and useless.

look at whom the lamebrain Atabey chooses to quote in his posting..Francis Fukuyama, the guy who suggested that, following the breakup of the Soviert Union, we had seen the "end of history"> not really , Francis. just wait until the nation states of the world start fighting Malthusian wars of scarcity, scrapping for ever more scarce resources, and raw materials. then we will se the real meaning of the end of history

Anthonyc, the guy with the Doctorate, in who knows what, informs us that fascism is a form of socialism,. i would reply, but i am restrained by my personal caution, which tells me that one should not debate with a fool, because, at a distance, nobody can tell the difference.

Three (3) nations were bankrupt during this period. DR under Hipolito Mejia, Jamaica and Uruguay.

Of the three, the DR was the smaller problem. Both Jamaica and Uruguay had the bigger issue and required more adjustments.

Go stick that into your A-h. Do your due diligence before tackling the issues. Also, perhaps you should READ about a nation's history before setting off on your ill-founded notions. Uruguay has a VERY good record, save for that horrendous period during the 1970s "Condor Plan" and the ERA that followed. Up until that period, Uruguay was one of Latin America's most progressive nations.

Stick that into your A-H.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/ne....ves-the-OK-for-Gay-Adoptions.html

Often called the Switzerland of South America not for geographical features but for a stable democracy and social benefits such as free education. In 2002 Uruguay faced one of its biggest economic crises which had very negative effects on

says Atabey

Written by: Atabey, 19 Dec 2011 1:04 PM
From: United States
Three (3) nations were bankrupt during this period. DR under Hipolito Mejia, Jamaica and Uruguay.

Of the three, the DR was the smaller problem. Both Jamaica and Uruguay had the bigger issue and required more adjustments.

nobody mentioned bankruptcy. i said poverty. i know that it is difficult for a guy like you to understand the difference , having dropped out of school in the fourth grade. the issue of poverty has to do with the fact that the returns from capitalism were accruing more to capital, than to labor. when you get your GED, you wil understand these nuances. till then, stick to cockfighting information.

Earth to Dready, a state of bankruptcy has been known to INCREASE poverty! Yikes!! What in God's Green Earth is happening to your mental state dready? You appear to be soooooooooooo fixated on being Mr. Nyet that you forget to use reason! LOL

I think we are mistaking intelligence for ignorance and lack of see the world in more than just the acquisition of money..
OH no sorry you are right!!!

in·tel·li·gence
noun
1.
capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.
2.
manifestation of a high mental capacity: He writes with intelligence and wit.
3.
the faculty of understanding.
4.
knowledge of an event, circumstance, etc., received or imparted; news; information.
5.
the gathering or distribution of information, especially secret information.

But then again you can have a high IQ and still be a fool or ruthless dictator ...
Adolf Hitler 141 IQ.
Starlin 132
Castro 160
Napoleon 145
R Murdoch 100
Bill O'Rielly 150
G W Bush 123
Limbaugh 137
So fools and dictators can be smart but still have no love, kindness or feelings for anything other than money and power.

says the self proclaimed holder of a degree in economics

Written by: Atabey, 19 Dec 2011 1:13 PM
From: United States
Earth to Dready, a state of bankruptcy has been known to INCREASE poverty! Yikes!! What in God's Green Earth is happening to your mental state dready? You appear to be soooooooooooo fixated on being Mr. Nyet that you forget to use reason! LOL

thanks for telling that to us. now, i wish that you understood it. a nation can be technically bankrupt, in that it defaults on its debt obligations, and still function normaly, without outward signs of its credit situation. remember, Atabey, bankruptcy is a condition of debt. if you have no debts, but have no assets, nor money, you are destitute. if you cannot pay your debts, then bankruptcy could ensue. conversely, the economy could be performing great guns, yet more people slide into poverty, while a small percentage gets richer , by the day. are you posting from Planet Earth?do they have books where you live?

stilhere, thanks for pointing out the fact that IQ does notr mean very much, in some cases, and that some of the foulest people on earth had pretty high IQ. however, when you have an IQ that is in single digits, like Atabey, you do have a problem. or, at least, the people who have to endure you, do.

"Written by: ScandiViking, 19 Dec 2011 3:56 AM
From: Denmark

Josean, brilliant mastering of anthonyC, however he is beyond help. Hopefully he will hit the wall sooner than later."


ScandiViking,


Thank you for the undeserved compliment.


Please take into account that even a burnt light bulb looks radiantly brilliant next to Alpha 66!

Written by: josean, 18 Dec 2011 12:34 PM
From: United States

However helly, I can’t help but noticing that you have significantly changed your position since September 3rd of this year:

“Written by: hellborn25, 3 Sep 2011 11:54 AM

From: United States, middle class concentration camp

danny writes ............costa rica disbanded their army and put the money into their school system.
u dont see many people from costa rica trying to sneak into the states?

spoken like a coward pacifist , why would a country disband there military , a strong powerfull nation should always have a strong prepared military to defend its nest from outsiders . If chile practices this , it wont be long until a outside nations takeover there country faster , then the germans took over france in world war 2”

So are you a born again pacifist or have you have joined danny’s camp on this issue?

josean my stand has changed because and only because, I dont see any good reason for small island like the dominican republic to have a military , and my responce at the time to danny00 , was more out of hostility towards him , since we always go at it here . The dominican republic spend a 100 million dollars last year on 3 israeli air surveillance radars , to fight the so called war on drugs ? and of coursed the eight super tucanos which the dominican republic spend around 93 millions dollars on a loan , makes no sense why spend all this money on high tech equipment and heavy artillery on drugs from foreighners, when the true solution is modifying your immigration laws and make it tougher on these south americans to seek entry which are at the source of the illegal drug trade problem .

Helly,

All I can say welcome home from your trip to the dark side my prodigal son!

I respect a man’s opinion but I respect him more when he has the guts to publicly admit he has seen a better way and is willing to change them.

Dogmatic beliefs are more dangerous to the world than nuclear weapons, so I respect you for having an open mind which in this current world environment, it seems to be a scarce commodity.

No if we can only enlighten Atabey to give up his fanatical believe in neo-liberalism I can die a happy man!

Or is it biometrics this week, well you get the point!

PS

Feel free to point out any contradictions in my ramblings Lord knows I have them; but that’s the only way we grow.

"...a national team[Uruguay] which has an unrivalled record of giving opportunities to afro-descendants. In the face of protests from their opponents, Uruguay picked black players in the first Copa America in 1916.

Probably the most revered figure in the history of Uruguayan football is Obdulio Varela, captain of the side that won the World Cup in 1950. His nickname was "El Negro Jefe" - the black boss."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16262537.stm

Just another little piece of information for our dear old Dready to digest, before he descends into his nebulous of ignorance regarding yet another Latin American republic.

Uruguay could tutor your dear Jamaica in many ways. So read more and keep your mouth close when the adults are in the room.

says the man with the mind of a chimpanzee

Just another little piece of information for our dear old Dready to digest, before he descends into his nebulous of ignorance regarding yet another Latin American republic.

Uruguay could tutor your dear Jamaica in many ways. So read more and keep your mouth close when the adults are in the room.

i made one remark about Uruguay, based on the numbers gathered by an international study group. the findings were that only two countries had experienced a rise in poverty...the DR, and Uruguay. dispute it, or go back yo your gallos, you simple minded half wit. i actualy posted the wording from the study. man, you should really never have stopped going to school in the 4th grade. look at you now.

Funny coincidence about Uruguay ... a friend recently visited there and said the place reminded them of Canada ... but somehow it just didn't sound right ...

"i made one remark about Uruguay, based on the numbers gathered by an international study group. the findings were that only two countries had experienced a rise in poverty...the DR, and Uruguay. dispute it,"

Yet that remark was removed by you. Hmmmm, I wonder why?

Your remark was in keeping with your ignorance of yet another Latin American republic.


Poverty and progress

Dec 20th 2011, 15:45 by The Economist online

Poverty continues to fall in Latin America

THE United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC) reckons that 31.4% of the region’s population was living below national poverty lines in 2010. This maintains a steady fall from a peak of 48.4% in 1990. Since 1999, most countries have made strides toward reducing poverty. Two things lie behind this progress. The biggest factor is the region’s strong economic performance: Latin America’s GDP expanded by 5.9% in 2010. This strong recovery meant that the 2008 recess

2008 recession in the region caused only a slight blip. Better-targeted social policies also help, especially cash-transfer schemes for the poor. But sustaining this progress will be hard. Extreme poverty, where income does not cover the need for basic food, is stuck at around 13%. (Several governments, including the Brazilian and Colombian, have unveiled initiatives aimed at the poorest.) Further falls in poverty and inequality will require greater efforts to raise productivity, to improve education and to shrink the informal economy."

Uruguay's poverty DECREASED by almost 50%! since 1999!! How's that for a meaningful statistic?

It's not so difficult to debunk your arguments Dready. :)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail

All one has to do is read good publications.

It's not so difficult to debunk your arguments Dready. :

it is counterintuitive for me to argue with you, anyway, Atabey. firstly, you are trotting out STATISTICS to DEBUNK my arguments, when you do not know the difference between a model and calculus. it is i who explained to you what a scatter chart was. now that i have attempted to take you out of the bush, and enlighten you, you have the arrogance to believe that you are DEFEATING me. trust me on this one, Atabey...there are many people in this world, and in this site, who are more educated thatn i am. YOU are NOT one of them. i have been vetted by graduate schools, and my bonafides are authentic. my Graduate Diploma in Development Economics, from the World Bank Institute, tells me that i know more, on my worst day, than you will ever do,on your best. stick to baseball, and keep trying to figure out how to flush the toilet, and how to use a fork, instead of a spoon, for eating rice.

How's your crow tasting Dready?

better than you smell.

With that hair of yours, I doubt it.

BTW, just check out the graph
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail

It just might give you some useful information BEFORE you engage in debate.

Just a friendly reminder to help you along.

BTW, have you found the video of the drug bust in Jamaica? That spy plane was up there taking lots of candid video from what I've read.