NEW YORK, Jan 04, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Fitch Ratings has affirmed the Issuer Default Ratings (IDRs) and Country Ceiling for the Dominican Republic as follows:
--Foreign currency IDR at 'B';
--Local currency IDR at 'B';
--Foreign currency short-term IDR at 'B';
--Country ceiling at 'B+'.
The Rating Outlook is maintained as Positive.
The Positive Outlook reflects the Dominican Republic's good macroeconomic performance, improving prospects for higher export earnings due to the development of the mining sector, and increased availability of external and domestic financing sources. However, Fitch notes that the uncertainty surrounding the IMF program and the upcoming electoral cycle, as well as risks stemming from the global economy presently detract from the sovereign's improving credit profile.
The Dominican Republic' ratings are underpinned by moderate debt levels, higher GDP per capita than peers, relatively strong social development indicators, and a competitive business environment that supports foreign direct investment inflows.
In spite of growth slowing down to an estimated 4.4% in 2011, the Dominican Republic's five-year average growth performance remains in line with peers. Inflation, averaging approximately 8.5% in 2011, is lower than the 'B' category median. The expected move to a formal inflation-targeting regime in 2012 could further enhance macroeconomic stability over the medium term.
'Rising mining export volumes are strengthening the capacity of the economy to generate larger and more resilient current external receipts, mitigating long-standing external balance sheet vulnerabilities,' said Cesar Arias, Associate Director in Fitch's Sovereign Group. As a result, Fitch expects the current account deficit to fall below the 'B' median of 5% of GDP by 2013.
'The sovereign has benefited from broad multilateral financial support, sustained access to international capital markets and the rapid development of the domestic bond market,' added Arias. Moreover, the Treasury has pre-funded its entire 2012 external market issuance program and secured USD1 billion in budget support and project financing for 2012.
Buoyed by multilateral disbursements, reserves remain at historic highs and above the adequacy targets agreed with the IMF, supporting the sustainability of the managed exchange rate. Nevertheless, external liquidity ratio, at 97% in 2012, is significantly weaker than peers, and the country's external financing needs are among the highest in the 'B' category.
Thus, Fitch notes that preserving macroeconomic stability and the continued support from multilaterals remains important for anchoring investor confidence and reducing external vulnerabilities.
A narrow revenue base and burdensome electricity subsidies have slowed fiscal consolidation and delayed the full implementation of the IMF's Stand-By Arrangement and the concomitant disbursements. Yet, Fitch estimates that fiscal deficit was moderate in 2011 owing to expenditure restraint and additional receipts from the tax reform. Moreover, government debt, at 29% of GDP, remains lower than peers, and amortization payments are manageable in comparison to 'B' and 'BB' peers.
Moving forward, greater confidence in the ability of the next government to maintain macroeconomic stability and broad multilateral financing support would be positive for creditworthiness. A sustained reduction in the country's external vulnerabilities would also put upward pressure on the ratings. On the other hand, a sharp decline in non-debt-creating capital inflows or a confidence shock as a result of the electoral process resulting in currency pressures and a marked erosion of international reserves would be negative for the ratings.
Additional information is available at ' www.fitchratings.com '. The ratings above were solicited by, or on behalf of, the issuer, and therefore, Fitch has been compensated for the provision of the ratings.
Applicable Criteria and Related Research:
--'Sovereign Rating Methodology' (Aug. 15, 2011).
Applicable Criteria and Related Research:
Sovereign Rating Methodology
http://www.fitchratings.com/creditdesk/reports/report_frame.cfm?rpt_id=648978
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SOURCE: Fitch Ratings
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 4:19 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
I wonder how much Lie-onel paid for this report?
Written by: RoyStone, 5 Jan 2012 5:29 AM
From: Australia
I suspect not much, Josean, he only bought a "B".
As usual, the devil is in the detail.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
The detail is here and the economic news for the DR is very bright as seen by this improving assessment by Fitch and by the selling of two tranches of bonds at record low interst rates ,It goes to show the confidence that the world in general has in the DR ,The major concern is the inflation rate which I believe has beenmainly caused by the constant rise in petrol prices that has had a secondary inflationary effect in numerous other industries.
There have been many people who have derided the actions of the central bank over the last 5 years from the time they dramatically increased foreign borrowings during the world economic depression , their control of the exchange rate, the issuing of the bonds and so on ,,,BUT ,iin my opinion , they have done a magnificent job with the economy and they deserve to be praised and congratulated.
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 8:51 AM
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These are the same type organizations that missed "mortgage crisis", the Greek collapse and the general world economic meltdown; they are run by snake oil salesmen with MBAs.
They are the equivalent to the guys who runback the odometers for used car salesmen!
From: United States
does anyone pay attention to ratings agencies anymore?
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 10:16 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Dread if you mean other than Little Dickey and the other purple clapping seals on DT, I don't think so!
Written by: Atabey, 5 Jan 2012 11:51 AM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: dreadlocks, 5 Jan 2012 9:22 AM
From: United States
does anyone pay attention to ratings agencies anymore?"
Dready,
Do you have another international agency in mind? Beggars can not be choosers. And while there are different opinions concerning DR's debt and overall capacity to manage its debt, see INVESTIGACIÓN "El límite de la deuda CA, Panamá y Dominicana"
BANNISTER DICE QUE LA DEUDA PÚBLICA EN LA REGIÓN NO ES MUY GRANDE,
http://www.listin.com.do/economia....e-la-deuda-CA-Panama-y-Dominicana, DR has only to satisfy these people and the IMF group to be considered in good standing. They are the people that matter.
But you may have another group in mind, what say your Magic 8 Ball for 2012?
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 12:07 PM
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Speaking of clapping purple seals!
And now he quotes the official press agency of the National Palace the Listin Baninter!
Well I guess it could be worse he could jump on last year’s flavor of the month BIOMETRICS!
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 12:11 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
"They are the people that matter."
The people that matter are the ones coming out to vote on May the 20th and from the looks of it they aren't very "satisfied!"
From: United States
Fitch Ratings..............? What the F...do a bunch of white guys know about the DR sitting behind their desks in those ivory towers of down town Manhattan.
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 1:21 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Bingo Mister G.!
Especially when the books they are presented are cooked by guys that make Bernie Madoff's accounting look Amateurish!
Written by: anthonyC, 5 Jan 2012 1:48 PM
From: United States
Written by: guillermone,
"Fitch Ratings..............? What the F...do a bunch of white guys know about the DR sitting behind their desks in those ivory towers of down town Manhattan. "
A hell of a lot more than your RACIST ASS!
Written by: bernies, 5 Jan 2012 1:49 PM
From: United States, key west fl
Hey Josean and RoyStone, how much did president Obama paid to get the USA credit rating downgraded. you guys do really hate the Dominican Republic and the president
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 2:00 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
I don't hate either!
I love DR with deep, deep passion that is why I DESPISE Lie-onel with even GREATER PASSION!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
bernies ...they appear to dislike anything successful in the DR and the economy has been one good success and if you do not believe the credit agencies do not matter,,just look at interest rates after a firm, or state or country is downgraded
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 5:32 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Over 40% of Dominican families live in poverty; we have one of the worst educational systems in the world; drugs are out of control; unemployment and under employment is catastrophic; you have to bring your bed linens and medicines to the hospital; electricity is a mirage; there is a housing deficit of over half a million units:
So success for who has the ”Narco-Marco-Economic–Miracle” produced, other than for Lie-onel Fernandez , Margarita’s ability to collect expensive hats, the members of the PLD's Political Committee and their paid megaphones?
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 6:10 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Now folks I don't make it up as i go along like others do!
Here is another point of view:
"Government concluded 2011 with "fiscal disaster"
"SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican Republic).-the fiscal behavior of the Government in 2011 was a "disaster" and largely explains why the International Monetary Fund (IMF) picked up and left the country, leaving abandoned the programme since the last quarter of the newly completed year."
“Since the last review of the program with the IMF, the multilateral agency noted that the Dominican government was non-compliance with the approved budget for 2011. For this reason, the mission who visited the country in the last half of 2011 returned to Washington without encouraging news.”
http://www.7dias.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=113836Written by: Atabey, 5 Jan 2012 6:43 PM
From: United States, NYC
by: josean,
"They are the people that matter."
The people that matter are the ones coming out to vote on May the 20th and from the looks of it they aren't very "satisfied!"
If you need any more indication of what the correlation of forces, to use a jargon you might be familiar with, or balance of power for the rest of us:
US pressured Spain to implement online piracy law, leaked files shows
US ambassador threatened Spain with 'retaliation actions' if the country did not pass tough new Sopa-style internet piracy laws
Spain would go on to pass Sinde at the start of this year.
In his letter, Solomont issued veiled threats, reminding its recipients that Spain is on the Special 301, the US trade representatives' list of countries that do not provide "adequate and effective" protection of intellectual property rights. Spain risks having its position on the list "degraded", and could join the real blacklist of "the worst violators of global intellectual property rig
Written by: Atabey, 5 Jan 2012 6:46 PM
From: United States, NYC
Small dependent nations like the DR have to acquiesce to stronger hegemonic powers. Facts not sentimental beliefs. So when the international agencies that control ratings- Fitch, however flawed these might be, state your status very little resource is available to a small nation to counteract the numbers.
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 7:24 PM
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Is there anybody out there that can translate mumbo jumbo?
'Cause this guy writes like "Slip" Mahoney use to talk!
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 8:36 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
A bit of history for those that place their faith in prestigious foreign professional services agencies:
“On October 21, 2007, Báez Figueroa was sentenced by a three-judge panel to 10 years in prison. Additionally, he was ordered to pay restitution and damages totalling RD$63 billion. The laundering charges were excluded, but the other suspected mastermind of the fraud, Luis Alvarez Renta, was convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison for money laundering.[8] Marcos Báez Cocco, ex-vicepresident of the Bank, was also found guilty, and sentenced to 8 years.”
“The sentence has been widely criticized for its severe contradictions, but more specially because it's been alleged that the judges were pressed by "the powers that be". Noted journalist Miguel Guerrero wrote in his column of the daily El Caribe that the defrauders of BANINTER have been protected "by a dark combination of political, economic, mediatic and ecclesiastical powers" and that the sentence was a mamotreto".
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 8:38 PM
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In fact, Guerrero went to the extent of saying that everything was fixed beforehand, and the defendants and their lawyers knew it, as did those representing the Central Bank.”
“What remains most curious was that the fraud went undetected for 14 years by the country's supposed financial gatekeepers—the Central Bank, the Superintendent of Banks and U. S. accounting company PRICEWATERHOUSECOOPERS. “
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 8:51 PM
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More history of those” reputable” professional services companies in DR:
"In desperately poor countries where Enron operated, these hardships sparked protests or riots. Local government leaders were, in many cases, implicated in the scandals or in the violent suppression of dissent.
For example:
In the Dominican Republic, nine people were killed when police were brought in to quell riots after blackouts lasting up to 20 hours followed an Enron-initiated power price hike. Among the complaints of protesters was the allegation that Enron had purchased the local power plant at a vastly undervalued price.
The auditor: a local subsidiary of ARTHUR ANDERSEN."
Written by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 8:58 PM
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“The Small Business Goldmine”
"The Credit Ratings Scandal"
"The international credit ratings agencies (Moody's, S&P, Fitch's, etc.) are the financial world's eyes and ears. Now, it turns out they were sending the wrong signals to its brain".
"The top three ratings agencies of the world, Moody's, S&P, and Fitch's, have done the investing world a huge disservice by taking payments from the very entities whose credit worthiness they propose to rate."
http://www.small-business-goldmine.com/credit-ratings.htmlWritten by: josean, 5 Jan 2012 9:10 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Now remember Boys and Girls Figures don’t Lie, but Liars Figure; and in DR we have some of the Best Lying Figures in the World!
Written by: RoyStone, 6 Jan 2012 12:51 AM
From: Australia
"He who pays the piper, calls the tune,"
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2012 4:22 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Roy that's the point.
After all that has been revealed and confirmed during this worldwide economic meltdown about the incestuous Ménage à Trois between the "regulators", the "raters" and the regulated, how can anyone can still have faith in anything these pinstriped gangster say is beyond me.
Written by: RoyStone, 6 Jan 2012 4:36 AM
From: Australia
josean, the same way that we have faith in the clergy to guide our lives.
Both have been proven wrong time and time again, meanwhile making themselves wealthy at our expense. Yet to disagree with them is heresy.
Written by: DomLon, 6 Jan 2012 6:23 AM
From: United Kingdom
It is good that the outlook is positive but I thought a B = Junk.
From: United States
DomLon, B is junk.
From: United States
says senor brain dead, know nothing Atabey
Do you have another international agency in mind? Beggars can not be choosers
who is begging? maybe you. i have a problem with a ratings agency that makes a 2 TRILLION dollar error in a calculation. maybe not you, because you cannot count above ten, anyway. when a ratings agency downgrades over 6000 bonds, from AAA to junk, in a single day, that tells me that something is not right. i guess that you fail to understand the problems that were caused by such egregious shortcomings in performance, but those of us who can read, and understand, know that there are certain agencies which invested in these bonds, and should not have, by law. why am i wasting time trying to explain this to a 5th grade dropout, anyway?
From: United States
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2012 4:22 AM
From: United States
Roy that's the point.
After all that has been revealed and confirmed during this worldwide economic meltdown about the incestuous Ménage à Trois between the "regulators", the "raters" and the regulated, how can anyone can still have faith in anything these pinstriped gangster say is beyond me.
you can, if your name is Atabey, and you have no knowledge of the matter at hand.
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 10:02 AM
From: United States, NYC
Dready,
What's the debt status of your Jamaica these days? Country ceiling of B+ would be a vast improvement, no?
As for your non-sense regarding Fitch and the rest, you still haven't matured enough to understand the first rule of the game: Balance of power dictates relationships in the international arena. And countries like the DR that have had many generations of poor financial and debt management ARE BEGGARS. Look at the example from the "mother country' Spain. Even in 2012 it's still being bossed around by the USA.
Someone hasn't grown up beyond 5th grade and he's the walking Eunuch with dreadlocks, care to wonder who he might be?
Josean,
Perhaps a bit of historical readings might help you in 2012. There's still time.
The dialogue is between unnamed Athenian envoys sent by generals Cleomedes son of Lycomedes and Tisias son of Tisimachus to negotiate with unnamed Melians
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 10:03 AM
From: United States, NYC
Athenian: "Of the gods we believe, and of men we know, that by a necessary law of their nature they rule wherever they can. And it is not as if we were the first to make this law, or to act upon it when made: we found it existing before us, and shall leave it to exist forever after us; all we do is to make use of it, knowing that you and everybody else, having the same power as we have, would do the same as we do" (Strassler 354/5.105.2).
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 10:03 AM
From: United States, NYC
Athenian: "For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses—either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us—and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Spartans, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melian_dialogueWhy again is the Dollar the reserve currency of the World?
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2012 10:07 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Is that availble in a Biometric format?
From: United States
Apeboy returns, with his usual stupid remarks
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 10:02 AM
From: United States
Dready,
What's the debt status of your Jamaica these days?
the issue here is not relative analysis between Jamaica, and the DR. the fact is that you made some idiot remark about beggars being choosers, to which i responded. the fact that you do not know the difference between 2 trillion, and two hundred, speaks to your lack of education, and nothing else. regaling us with some copy paste nonsense makes you look even more foolish than you already are. as to the reserve currency question...i would answer it, if it was coming from someone whom could understand the answer.
From: United States
says the colmado philosopher
And countries like the DR that have had many generations of poor financial and debt management ARE BEGGARS. Look at the example from the "mother country' Spain.
can you tell us the connection between your rabid musings, and Fitch?
From: United States
more from the skunk that crashed the party
As for your non-sense regarding Fitch and the rest, you still haven't matured enough to understand the first rule of the game
the first rule of my game is that if you wish to participate in a discussion of a subject, you need to know something about it, first.
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 11:43 AM
From: United States, NYC
Moody's credit rating
Jamaica: B3-Stable--------------------------------DR: B1-Stable
Standard & Poor's Credit Rating
Jamaica: B- Stable---------------------------------DR: B+ Stable
Fitch credit rating
Jamaica: B- Stable---------------------------------DR: B+ Stable
From: United States
and your point is? lets make that ¨do you have a point?¨ do you want to make this a competition? how many gold medals do you have, at the olympics? how many heavyweight champions in boxing do you have? how many billionaires? do you have an equivalent of Bob Marley? see how stupid this can get?
From: United States
want more, Atabey how about University of the West Indies ranked number 910, UASD ranked 4300. if you don´t like that, i have more.
From: United States
Fraud Charges Against Ratings Agencies Won't Help Investors
0 comments, 0 called-out + Comment now
+ Comment now The SEC is apparently gearing a fraud case against credit rating agencies like Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s for their role in the financial crisis.
The SEC may file civil charges against ratings agencies for their role in the financial crisis.
SEC officials are looking into whether the ratings agencies committed fraud by failing to do enough research to rate adequately the pools of subprime mortgages and other loans, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.
Does anyone really think this will mean anything for investors? Not if they’ve seen what the SEC and other regulators have accomplished (or haven’t accomplished) before and after the 2008 financial crisis.
Here’s how this will play out: The SEC will file civil charges against the credit agencies for inflating their ratings on firms and products that they knew were doomed.
read, Atabey, read.
From: United States
Former Moody's Senior Vice President Accuses Rating Agency of Fraud, Corruption, and Greed
By: Mike Shedlock | Fri, Aug 19, 2011 Share Print Email In good times, no one wants to end a party and everyone is willing to turn a blind-eye to fraud, corruption, and excessive greed. Bear markets, however, expose the truth.
Massive fraud at Moody's now coming to light. Business Insider reports MOODY'S ANALYST BREAKS SILENCE: Says Ratings Agency Rotten To Core With Conflicts, Corruption, And Greed
A former senior analyst at Moody's has gone public with his story of how one of the country's most important rating agencies is corrupted to the core.
The analyst, William J. Harrington, worked for Moody's for 11 years, from 1999 until his resignation last year.
From 2006 to 2010, Harrington was a Senior Vice President in the derivative products group, which was responsible for producing many of the disastrous ratings Moody's issued during the housing bubble.
read, Atabey, read.
From: United States
Does it matter who pays for bond ratings?
Shanny Basar in New York
23 Nov 2011 Updated at 18:38 GMT
Standard & Poor’s has been mired in controversy this month after sending out incorrect updates on both France and Brazil's sovereign debt and now academics have added to the agency's woes by finding it issued higher ratings after switching from an investor-pay to an issuer-pay model.
read, Atabey, read. a mind is a terrible thing to waste. even when it is simple, and shallow, and useless, like yours.
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 7:45 PM
From: United States, NYC
"Beggars can not be choosers."
Your Jamaica is a classic case study, Dready le Eunuch.
"Rightly or wrongly, what is being said in private is that much of the Anglophone part of the Caribbean does not relate to the ways in which traditional partners now think, is locked into an historic analysis and is deploying a formalised approach that no longer politically resonates. There is also a sense that the failure of the Caribbean to deliver an integrated region and the absence of any new narrative about itself or its strategic objectives is making it difficult to sustain high level political interest outside the region."
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 7:47 PM
From: United States, NYC
"Much of the Caribbean has become inward looking as it has sunk into a slough of debt, economic despondency and limited growth. Most nations have not yet addressed the toxic interrelated issues of public sector reform, pensions, taxation, public expenditure, youth unemployment and growth. Much of the private sector remains inward looking and protectionist and the gap between the economies of the region and their counterparts in Central and South America and the Hispanic Caribbean is growing. "-David Jessop is the Director of the Caribbean Council and can be contacted at david.jessop@caribbean-council.org
Sounds like a description of Dready's Jamaica.
From: United States
ApeBoy, just checked the latest Human Development Report. Jamaica ranks 79 in the list of countries reported upon. it is considered High Human Development. the DR ranks number 98, and is considered Medium Human Development. i was amazed that a country that produces cretins like you could rank as high as 98.
From: United States
says the bottom feeding, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging , missing Darwinian Link
Sounds like a description of Dready's Jamaica.
sounds like every caribbean island, as a matter of fact, the author of the article said so. i guess the content of the article is too complex for you to understand.
Written by: Atabey, 7 Jan 2012 9:45 AM
From: United States, NYC
"Much of the private sector remains inward looking and protectionist and the gap between the economies of the region and their counterparts in Central and South America and the Hispanic Caribbean is growing. "-David Jessop is the Director of the Caribbean Council and can be contacted at david.jessop@caribbean-council.org
"Hispanic Caribbean"!!!
I guess your glasses are still dirty from all that brown stuff, Dready Le Eunuch. Clean your hands before leaving the bathroom.
From: United States
here is my response, knuckle dragger
ApeBoy, just checked the latest Human Development Report. Jamaica ranks 79 in the list of countries reported upon. it is considered High Human Development. the DR ranks number 98, and is considered Medium Human Development. i was amazed that a country that produces cretins like you could rank as high as 98.
From: United States
says the neanderthal
I guess your glasses are still dirty from all that brown stuff,
i understand our fixation upon this matter. after all, you are the guy to whom one poster referred as a turd.
From: Dominican Republic
@josean,
Which political party do you think should be elected? Why?
Thanks
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2012 10:20 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
I would be happy to answer, not that I haven’t already in several dozen posts, after you tell which party you think should be elected and why?
From: Dominican Republic
@josean,
Not a problem, I believe that in the last three decades, the PLD has done a better job, than the PRD and PRSC combined, especially in the areas public infrastructures, services and overall macroeconomics.
To me, the PLD has a better defined political platform, that is not centered on the persona of its presidential candidates. When I hear slogans like "Llegó Papá!", it amazes me that our society is still holding own to the populist notions that gave us 22yrs of President Balaguer and fueled the personality cult of Trujillo's era.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 10:41 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Arcangel96,
Why doesn’t that surprise me!
“that is not centered on the persona of its presidential candidates. When I hear slogans like "Llegó Papá!", it amazes me that our society is still holding own to the populist notions that gave us 22yrs of President Balaguer and fueled the personality cult of Trujillo's era”
But your God Lie-onel, which you leave out of your rhetoric, because he is more unpopular the cholera right now, said he is a Balguerista and a Vinchista, i.e. a Neo Trujillista, since both these animals were lap dogs of Trujillo!
And for the PLD to attack the PRD for a cult of personality is like the Pot calling the Kettle Black.
Wasn't the second coming of Christ known to us mere mortals as Lie-onel Fernandez the one who said he was the only person capable of conceptualizing and refused to debate the other candidates in 2008?
If that is not a Cult of personality ala Chairman Moa you can excuse me.
continued:
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 10:43 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
My Candidate is Guillermo Moreno because when in 1996 he saw the cesspool of corruption and the latrine of Narco traffic the PLD was becoming he left, just like Juan Bosch left the PRD when that organization imploded.
I support Mr. Moreno because he honest, transparent, incorruptible and will make education of the Dominican people a priority.
Please go to Alianza Pais web site: and read his proposals especial the section on lower and higher education:
http://www.alianzapais.com.do/Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 11:51 AM
From: United States, NYC
"Much of the private sector remains inward looking and protectionist and the gap between the economies of the region and their counterparts in Central and South America and the Hispanic Caribbean is growing. "-David Jessop is the Director of the Caribbean Council and can be contacted at david.jessop@caribbean-council.org
"Hispanic Caribbean"!!!
What's Jamaica's GDP growth the last say 20 years? You're the "trending guy" remember, Dready!
How are those trends going for Jamaica?
Jamaica's economic growth to 2015 projected to be 7th slowest in the world
BY STEVEN JACKSON
JAMAICA will have the seventh slowest growth rate in the world up to 2015, according to a new International Monetary Fund (IMF) report analysed by the Business Observer, indicating missed opportunities for the debt-ridden country.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....n-the-world_8046873#ixzz1itWKuasXWritten by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 11:57 AM
From: United States, NYC
No cranes dot the capital city's business centre, its roads are filled with holes similar to the tattered clothes of beggars at the stoplights, and oftentimes youth recite an expression that reflects a lack of opportunity -- nothin' nah gwan'. Jamaica, however, can expect more of the same as it is projected to trail some 143 nations in the world in growth statistics, which is a barometer of prosperity. With projections of about 1.3 per cent annually over the next five years, the island will grow three times slower than the world economy, according to charts within the World Economic Outlook (WEO) published this month by the IMF. Unfortunately, the country's output or gross domestic product (GDP) could dip even further due to Tropical Storm Nicole which killed about 13 persons and destroyed infrastructure last month.
Read more:
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....n-the-world_8046873#ixzz1itWmJuHAWritten by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 11:58 AM
From: United States, NYC
The only territories -- amongst 150 -- projected to grow at a slower pace on average than Jamaica over five years are St Kitts & Nevis at 0.3 per cent, oil-rich Venezuela at 0.33 per cent, Brunei Darussalam at 1.03 per cent, Croatia at 1.03 per cent, Antigua at 1.13 per cent and Equatorial Guinea at 1.23 per cent. Interestingly, three of the six territories trailing Jamaica are in the Latin America and Caribbean region. However, generally, the region is projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia.
Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent.
"The IMF is saying that they don't foresee Jamaica changing its growth patterns in the near future," stated Charles Ross, financial analyst and principal of Sterling Asset Management, a non-ali
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 11:59 AM
From: United States, NYC
The problem is that Jamaica has cultivated a society that embraces poverty and distrusts wealth, reasoned Ross about the country's generation of austerity. Comparatively, Haiti the poorest country in the Americas, will grow twice as fast as Jamaica over the period under review whilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015.
"If people don't believe in the benefits of economic growth it has lifted the Chinese out of poverty into prosperity. Thirty years ago most Chinese nationals were barefoot peasants living on a bowl of rice and today they live in modern cities with wealth and have the second-largest economy in the world," Ross said adding that countries in Latin America are replicating the Chinese model.
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 12:01 PM
From: United States, NYC
"Haiti the poorest country in the Americas, will grow twice as fast as Jamaica over the period under review whilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Dready Le Eunuch, what have you to say? Devastating rebuttal. But there's more.
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 12:02 PM
From: United States, NYC
Jamaica's debt-to-GDP, currently some 130 per cent, is seen as a primary reason for suffocating its growth prospects as Government hasn't the money to pump into spending on construction and infrastructure.
"We have borrowed and borrowed and now the debt has itself become an obstacle for growth because you have to put so much of government resources into servicing the debt that very little is left for public investment in infrastructure that would facilitate growth," stated Ross, who added that Jamaica's US$1.3-billion stand-by agreement with the IMF signed in February should have included growth objectives. "I don't understand why the IMF programme did not address growth. It should have addressed growth."
Jamaica, in order to improve its growth prospects will have to maintain a sustained period of macro-stability in the economic, social and regulatory arena, argued Williams. Further, he said the private sector will have to design strategies to enhance its international competitiv
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 12:03 PM
From: United States, NYC
and worker productivity. "The aim is to generate higher levels of productivity which will translate into higher growth," he concluded.
Jamaica's ability to attract foreign direct investment (FDI) has trailed the region, growing four times slower than the Caribbean between 2001 and 2008, according to the Annual Statistical Yearbook by the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC) published in June. ECLAC, which is one of five regional commissions of the United Nations Economic and Social Council, added that Jamaica's external debt grew twice as fast as the Caribbean on a whole and 16 times faster than Latin America over the same period. At the same time, Jamaica's trade deficit worsened three times faster than the Caribbean region but slightly worse than Latin America.
Jamaica's economic decline mirrors its decline in the UN Human Development Index (HDI) at 100 in 2009 from 92 in 2006. The Doing Business 2010 report, a joint publication of the World Bank,
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 12:05 PM
From: United States, NYC
Devastating dear Dready!
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 12:05 PM
From: United States, NYC
International Finance Corporation and PricewaterhouseCoopers, ranked Jamaica one of the 10 most difficult countries in the world to pay taxes -- 174 out of 183 countries.
The IMF intimated that Jamaica was not alone in terms of operating a fragile economy affected by the global downturn.
"The global recovery remains fragile, because strong policies to foster internal rebalancing of demand from public to private sources and external rebalancing from deficit to surplus economies are not yet in place. Global activity is forecast to expand by 4.8 per cent in 2010 and 4.2 per cent in 2011, broadly in line with earlier expectations, and downside risks continue to predominate. WEO projections are that output of emerging and developing economies will expand at rates of 7.1 and 6.4 per cent, respectively, in 2010 and 2011," the IMF stated about the WEO report.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....be-7th-slowest-in-the-world_80468From: Dominican Republic
@josean,
I never said that President Fernandez is a God, or God like or the second coming of Jesus Christ. My statement was clear. Among the three major political parties, in the last three decades, the PLD seem to have a better track record with the economy than the other two parties. C'mon, let's give credit where credit is due. Now, about the slogan, don't you find it a little condescending?? (If you don't, then enough said)
Moreover, in this upcoming elections, President Fernandez is not seeking re-election, instead, Danilo Medina is the candidate for the PLD. On the other hand, for the PRD, the option is Mr. Mejía. Really?! Was him the best candidate from the PRD? No fresh blood??? (And this is the grave disservice I see to our country)
Today, we have pretty much two options PLD or PRD that's pretty much it. We seem to be slowly transitioning to a two party system like in the USA, which limits the chances of Mr. Moreno on being elected as a third party candid
Written by: Atabey, 8 Jan 2012 7:35 PM
From: United States, NYC
Arcangle96,
The same message I gave to Josean a year or so ago. The choices are evident and clear: PLD or PRD. Moreno is a throw away vote or protest vote, at best. Nothing against the person, Moreno, just realizing the practical realities involved.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 9:06 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
@ Arcangel96,
“Moreover, in this upcoming elections, President Fernandez is not seeking re-election, instead, Danilo Medina is the candidate for the PLD. On the other hand, for the PRD, the option is Mr. Mejía. Really?! Was him the best candidate from the PRD? No fresh blood??? (And this is the grave disservice I see to our country)”
First I am not here to speak up for the PRD or its presidential candidate there others here on DT that can do that.
However, I do see an extreme danger to the microscopic embryonic democracy we have if the Purple Narco Mafia gets to retain power. For the last two years I feel that most of the sectors of the Dominican society have come to that realization also. In fact many former PLDistas wich are not affiliated with any other political organization have and are speaking out about this neo dictatorship that has been forming.
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Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 9:07 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
The recent resignation of Dr. Taína Gautreau a very active 35 year member of the party validates what a great majority of the public has been feeling. Certainly she would know more about inner corruption of the PLD and its political leadership than ANY of us here on DT can speculate pro or con. In fact one of her criticisms is precisely the concentration of power in a few individuals and the fact that no opportunity is given to new people (blood) with new ideas.
So you are not really stating that Danilo Medina represents fresh blood are you? Isn’t he the defeated candidate of 2000? Isn’t he the guy that challenged Lie-onel in 2008 and when defeated in the primary accused Lie-onel of using the resources of the state? However, now he is the one abusing the resources of the state himself. He sort of the Mitt Romney of the PLD that nobody wants but are stuck with him and his poll numbers don’t rise. Remember he was challenged by at least 6 or 7 “new” bloods.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 9:11 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
In fact since 1996 the PLD has had the same two guys running for president Lie-onel or Danilo i.e. “Bob Hope and No Hope,” not too much new blood there either wouldn’t you say!
All of the people around Danilo also don’t represent fresh blood they are essentially the same mafia that has ruled the party and the government since 1996. They have violated their own parties bylaws by extending the reign of power of the current members of the Political Committee beyond what's allowed under their rules. How about the imposing Lie-onel’s wife as a vice presidential candidate; a woman who is not member of any of the hierarchy of the party nor has she ever been elected to any office.
Isn’t that also a great disservice to our country as well?
"C'mon, let's give credit where credit is due”
Credit for what:
More drug traffic than ever in the history of the republic;
More insecurity and crime;
One of the worst educational systems in the world;
Continued:
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 9:13 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
The refusal to obey the law and fund education at the constitutionally mandated 4%;
Widening the gap between the haves and the have not’s;
“a better track record with the economy than the other two parties”
The biggest foreign debt in the history of the republic;
Currently in violation of the agreement with the IMF;
An electrical system that is strangling business development and stifling foreign investment;
Domestic violence and the killing of women at historic levels never seen before;
Illegal immigration from Haiti totally out of control;
International Drug Lords from Puerto Rico living freely for years under Lie-onel’s nose;
Continued:
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2012 9:36 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Giving a $36,000,000 million dollar loan to a Spanish Drug dealer that the Spanish government has stated had no known entrepreneurial history to merit that type of credit;
Credit for receiving a personal check for half a million pesos from a known Dominican drug dealer;
Just to name a few of the things they “Should Really be given Credit for!”
From: Dominican Republic
@josean,
Okidoki...I get it, you don't like the PLD. Your position is unshakeable. I respect that, I don't agree with it, but I respect it.
Now, the reality today is that, come election day, the only viable options are the PRD and the PLD. I guess if the PLD wins, which I see unlikely, we will hear more from. :)
Anyway, ...until next post...
Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2012 5:55 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
"I get it, you don't like the PLD."
As well as a majority of other Dominicans and growing every day!
"Your position is unshakeable."
Now what ever gave you that impression!
"I don't agree with it"
After over welling scientific evidence some people still believe the world is flat and that Obama was not born in the United States. But I also respect that.
“the reality today is that”
The only reality in life is that the world is dynamic and in constant change. In Trujillo’s time we had only one political party just liken the Soviet Union and both seemingly invincible oppressive systems where overthrown. More recently the Arab spring has shaken the foundations of many tyrannical despots with more money and smarts than Lie-onel and his motley crew will ever have. Like Tug McGraw and ’69 METS use to say you got believe.
continued:
Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2012 5:56 AM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
"we will hear more from"
Absolutely; even if Guillermo wins and turns out to be a piece of caca like Lie-onel and the Narco-PLD. My allegiance is to the Dominican people not to a man "caudillo" or to political party.
As Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. would say “Keep the faith baby, Keep the faith!
Written by: Atabey, 9 Jan 2012 2:05 PM
From: United States, NYC
"As Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. would say “Keep the faith baby, Keep the faith!"
As he lined his pocket from the public treasury.
By the mid-1960s, Powell was increasingly being criticized for mismanaging his committee's budget, taking trips abroad at public expense, and missing sittings of his committee. He responded,
"I wish to state very emphatically," he said once when under attack for personal conduct (he had taken two young women at government expense with him on overseas travel) by Congress and the press, "that I will always do just what every other Congressman and committee chairman has done and is doing and will do."[10]
"Powell's increasing absenteeism was noted by his constituents. In June 1970, he was defeated in the Democratic primary by Charles B. Rangel."
And we all know how Charles B. Rangel has turned out. Even has a DR connection in Punta Cana, I believe.
Josean, politicians are made overwhelmingly in one mode: self interest.
Written by: RoyStone, 9 Jan 2012 2:28 PM
From: Australia
There has already been 2 major cocaine busts this year. If that keeps up it will play havoc with our balance of payments.
Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2012 5:52 PM
From: United States, Show your Love for DR Vote AGAINST the PLD!
Atabey the quote from Congressman Powell was for literary emphasis not an endorsement of his views or behaviors. I am well aware of his career he was my congressman when I lived in New York for a brief period .
I just never like to use a quote without attribution, as I hate plagiarism almost as much as censorship.
Also this statement is stating the obvious:
"Josean, politicians are made overwhelmingly in one mode: self interest".
Written by: Atabey, 9 Jan 2012 9:12 PM
From: United States, NYC
"Haiti the poorest country in the Americas, will grow twice as fast as Jamaica over the period under review whilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Dready Le Eunuch, nothin' nah gwan'.
what have you to say? Devastating rebuttal.
nothin' nah gwan'. Jamaica, however, can expect more of the same as it is projected to trail some 143 nations in the world in growth statistics, which is a barometer of prosperity. With projections of about 1.3 per cent annually over the next five years,
Written by: Atabey, 9 Jan 2012 9:14 PM
From: United States, NYC
the island will grow three times slower than the world economy, according to charts within the World Economic Outlook (WEO) published this month by the IMF... in the Latin America and Caribbean region. However, generally, the region is projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
"the region is projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
Oops, the Dominican Republic! Where's Jamaica???
Nothin' nah gwan', Man.
From: United States
Atabey, you are an amusing guy. i remembered when you tried to set yourself up as some baseball authority, ridiculing my knowledge of the game. this is despite the fact that when i was watching guys like Tom Seaver and Jerry Koozman, and Bob Gibson, and the likes, you had never heard of the USA. you were either not yet born, or in some hovel in the bushes, where you had never heard of TV. but, you make yourself out as knowing more about the game than i do. it is the same with economics. i have spent many years, in different institutions of higher learning, studying this stuff. i will just laugh it off when some semi literate chimpanzee tries to show me up. the entire site knows which of us understands the material, and which is just an adolescent, idiotic, irritant. if you think i am going to waste time discussing GDP with a guy who does not know the difference between trend and trajectory, then knock yourself out. you win. see you at the Olympics.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Jan 2012 10:59 AM
From: United States, NYC
The truth hurts dear Dready. It is clear you are a shallow individual EVEN IF YOU STUDIED ECONOMICS at Fordham University-as you claim. And as I've often stated on DT: You are constantly shorting the DR with a negative outlook and a "glass half empty" take on matters.
As for my rebuttal above, I see where having NO WHERE TO HIDE and lacking any sense of debate, you have shriveled up. The facts speak for themselves: DR has galloped passed Jamaica in the passed two decades: "[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Source:
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....n-the-world_8046873#ixzz1itWmJuHAAnd that's not a Dominican's take on Jamaica versus the Dominican Republic, it comes from INDEPENDENT SOURCED MATERIALS. Printed in a JAMAICAN newspaper!
What a beat down Dready! No wonder you look
Written by: Atabey, 10 Jan 2012 11:02 AM
From: United States, NYC
forward to the Olympics in 2014! Two more loooooooooooong years until you raise your head again? LOL
From: United States
here is your little beat down, Atabey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List....ntries_by_Human_Development_Indexwith all the numbers you think that you can post, i see where Jamaica ranks above the DR in the Human Development Index. actually, it is regarded as High Human Development, while the DR is in a lower category, Medium Human Development. that tells me that it is not what you have, but how you use it. it is no good being a rich guy, and blowing the money at the racetrack. even though you have raced past, as you say, you still come last in education testing, producing uneducated nitwits like you. 2nd worst in the world in government mismanagement. third worst in the world in electricity loss. 42% below the poverty line. 4th in the world in the exportation of prostitutes. second from the bottom in lowest wages of all ethnic groups in the USA., beating only Colombia.one of the highest levels of inequality in the region.
From: United States
proud owner of one of the world´s ten most polluted spots on earth. maybe, if you are so smart, next time you will create your own tourism model, and not borrow it from people who are so far behind you.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Jan 2012 4:46 PM
From: United States, NYC
Roy,
I remember a guy who stated that he was a numbers guy and into "trending" One had to look at how the stats were moving over time. This guy has a certain accent and long hair with dreadlocks. Care to find him on DT?
Dready, your argument has been blown to shreds! Man up and accept it.
While Jamaica will have the 7th LOWEST economic growth in the WORLD! The Dominican Republic will be part of:
"the region .. projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Stats and trending. You know, those twin categories you ONCE said were crucial in determining a winning argument.
Stay on topic Dready.
From: United States
atabey, i have 11 words for you
high human development
medium human development
high is better than medium
From: United States
Atabey, always bear one thing in mind
we have never come in last, in anything. we may be 7th slowest in economic growth. you are second worst, in the world, in EDUCATIONAL TESTING. maybe that explains idiots like you. yes, LAST , in all countries, in mathematics. dead last!! maybe that explains why you do not know the difference between stats and calculus. yes, Atabey. not 7th worst. ABSOLUTE WORST!!! in EDUCATION, no less. DEAD LAST!!!!
From: United States
admonishes Atabey
Stay on topic Dready.
that comes from a person who introduces economic events in Jamaica into a thread discussing the credit rating of the Dominican Republic. that is usually referred to as hijacking a thread. now i guess that you all will understand why it is that i contend that his IQ is several orders of magnitude below that of a chimpanzee.
Written by: Atabey, 11 Jan 2012 10:18 AM
From: United States, NYC
It's the trending Man, it's the trending that matters! Yes, indeed. Who was that fellow that stated such a concept? Dready, have you any idea?
Dready, your argument has been blown to shreds! Man up and accept it.
While Jamaica will have the 7th LOWEST economic growth in the WORLD! The Dominican Republic will be part of:
"the region .. projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
"Jamaica's economic decline mirrors its decline in the UN Human Development Index (HDI) at 100 in 2009 from 92 in 2006."---STEVEN JACKSON
It's the trending, dear Dready.
From: United States
DEAD LAST , Atabey. DEAD LAST. in education, no less. not in table tennis, nor in cuisine, nor fruit salads. EDUCATION. DEAD LAST!!!!!! not good.
From: United States
"Jamaica's economic decline mirrors its decline in the UN Human Development Index (HDI) at 100 in 2009 from 92 in 2006."---STEVEN JACKSON
It's the trending, dear Dready.
yes, Atabey, it is the trending. 100 in 2009, from 92 in 2006. however, as usual, you only trade in half trutths. you did not mention number 79, in 2011. it's the trending, Atabey. by the way, what is your position in the HDI? Ithink that it is below 79, no?
Written by: Atabey, 11 Jan 2012 10:59 AM
From: United States, NYC
Dready, let keep it cordial. And I agree, that things aren't always smooth and one sided. But even you would have to acknowledge that the DR has largely caught up with Jamaica, and yes, the education Achilles Heel of DR needs serious attention-I've never stated otherwise.
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
What have you to say about Mr Jackson's observation based on the data?
He states the DR has "galloped past Jamaica" His words, not mine.
From: United States
galloped past, in what respect? GDP growth? i will only agree when i get a look at the composition of the GDP spending., and how it is financed. i cannot examine things without details, unlike you.
Written by: Atabey, 11 Jan 2012 5:41 PM
From: United States, NYC
Dread,
Now to the business of fixing the economy
The Jamaican economy after the elections
By Al Edwards
Friday, January 06, 2012
WITH the general election now clearly in the country’s rear-view mirror, a collective effort must now be made to grow the economy and improve the lives of all Jamaicans. For decades the Jamaican economy has exhibited anaemic growth.
According to the World Economic Outlook published by the IMF last year, Jamaica will have the seventh slowest growth rate in the world up to 2015. Over the last 30 years, annual gross domestic product growth in Jamaica has been less than one per cent. Therefore the first item on any new administration’s agenda should be how it intends to stimulate growth.
Read more:
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....-fixing-the-economy#ixzz1jCRXwJFIMr. Edwards also see the anemic, less than 1% GDP growth! of the past 30 years as item number one for the incoming administration.
I wonder how much Lie-onel paid for this report?
As usual, the devil is in the detail.
There have been many people who have derided the actions of the central bank over the last 5 years from the time they dramatically increased foreign borrowings during the world economic depression , their control of the exchange rate, the issuing of the bonds and so on ,,,BUT ,iin my opinion , they have done a magnificent job with the economy and they deserve to be praised and congratulated.
These are the same type organizations that missed "mortgage crisis", the Greek collapse and the general world economic meltdown; they are run by snake oil salesmen with MBAs.
They are the equivalent to the guys who runback the odometers for used car salesmen!
Dread if you mean other than Little Dickey and the other purple clapping seals on DT, I don't think so!
From: United States
does anyone pay attention to ratings agencies anymore?"
Dready,
Do you have another international agency in mind? Beggars can not be choosers. And while there are different opinions concerning DR's debt and overall capacity to manage its debt, see INVESTIGACIÓN "El límite de la deuda CA, Panamá y Dominicana"
BANNISTER DICE QUE LA DEUDA PÚBLICA EN LA REGIÓN NO ES MUY GRANDE, http://www.listin.com.do/economia....e-la-deuda-CA-Panama-y-Dominicana, DR has only to satisfy these people and the IMF group to be considered in good standing. They are the people that matter.
But you may have another group in mind, what say your Magic 8 Ball for 2012?
Speaking of clapping purple seals!
And now he quotes the official press agency of the National Palace the Listin Baninter!
Well I guess it could be worse he could jump on last year’s flavor of the month BIOMETRICS!
"They are the people that matter."
The people that matter are the ones coming out to vote on May the 20th and from the looks of it they aren't very "satisfied!"
Bingo Mister G.!
Especially when the books they are presented are cooked by guys that make Bernie Madoff's accounting look Amateurish!
"Fitch Ratings..............? What the F...do a bunch of white guys know about the DR sitting behind their desks in those ivory towers of down town Manhattan. "
A hell of a lot more than your RACIST ASS!
I don't hate either!
I love DR with deep, deep passion that is why I DESPISE Lie-onel with even GREATER PASSION!
Over 40% of Dominican families live in poverty; we have one of the worst educational systems in the world; drugs are out of control; unemployment and under employment is catastrophic; you have to bring your bed linens and medicines to the hospital; electricity is a mirage; there is a housing deficit of over half a million units:
So success for who has the ”Narco-Marco-Economic–Miracle” produced, other than for Lie-onel Fernandez , Margarita’s ability to collect expensive hats, the members of the PLD's Political Committee and their paid megaphones?
Now folks I don't make it up as i go along like others do!
Here is another point of view:
"Government concluded 2011 with "fiscal disaster"
"SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican Republic).-the fiscal behavior of the Government in 2011 was a "disaster" and largely explains why the International Monetary Fund (IMF) picked up and left the country, leaving abandoned the programme since the last quarter of the newly completed year."
“Since the last review of the program with the IMF, the multilateral agency noted that the Dominican government was non-compliance with the approved budget for 2011. For this reason, the mission who visited the country in the last half of 2011 returned to Washington without encouraging news.”
http://www.7dias.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=113836
"They are the people that matter."
The people that matter are the ones coming out to vote on May the 20th and from the looks of it they aren't very "satisfied!"
If you need any more indication of what the correlation of forces, to use a jargon you might be familiar with, or balance of power for the rest of us:
US pressured Spain to implement online piracy law, leaked files shows
US ambassador threatened Spain with 'retaliation actions' if the country did not pass tough new Sopa-style internet piracy laws
Spain would go on to pass Sinde at the start of this year.
In his letter, Solomont issued veiled threats, reminding its recipients that Spain is on the Special 301, the US trade representatives' list of countries that do not provide "adequate and effective" protection of intellectual property rights. Spain risks having its position on the list "degraded", and could join the real blacklist of "the worst violators of global intellectual property rig
Is there anybody out there that can translate mumbo jumbo?
'Cause this guy writes like "Slip" Mahoney use to talk!
A bit of history for those that place their faith in prestigious foreign professional services agencies:
“On October 21, 2007, Báez Figueroa was sentenced by a three-judge panel to 10 years in prison. Additionally, he was ordered to pay restitution and damages totalling RD$63 billion. The laundering charges were excluded, but the other suspected mastermind of the fraud, Luis Alvarez Renta, was convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison for money laundering.[8] Marcos Báez Cocco, ex-vicepresident of the Bank, was also found guilty, and sentenced to 8 years.”
“The sentence has been widely criticized for its severe contradictions, but more specially because it's been alleged that the judges were pressed by "the powers that be". Noted journalist Miguel Guerrero wrote in his column of the daily El Caribe that the defrauders of BANINTER have been protected "by a dark combination of political, economic, mediatic and ecclesiastical powers" and that the sentence was a mamotreto".
In fact, Guerrero went to the extent of saying that everything was fixed beforehand, and the defendants and their lawyers knew it, as did those representing the Central Bank.”
“What remains most curious was that the fraud went undetected for 14 years by the country's supposed financial gatekeepers—the Central Bank, the Superintendent of Banks and U. S. accounting company PRICEWATERHOUSECOOPERS. “
More history of those” reputable” professional services companies in DR:
"In desperately poor countries where Enron operated, these hardships sparked protests or riots. Local government leaders were, in many cases, implicated in the scandals or in the violent suppression of dissent.
For example:
In the Dominican Republic, nine people were killed when police were brought in to quell riots after blackouts lasting up to 20 hours followed an Enron-initiated power price hike. Among the complaints of protesters was the allegation that Enron had purchased the local power plant at a vastly undervalued price.
The auditor: a local subsidiary of ARTHUR ANDERSEN."
“The Small Business Goldmine”
"The Credit Ratings Scandal"
"The international credit ratings agencies (Moody's, S&P, Fitch's, etc.) are the financial world's eyes and ears. Now, it turns out they were sending the wrong signals to its brain".
"The top three ratings agencies of the world, Moody's, S&P, and Fitch's, have done the investing world a huge disservice by taking payments from the very entities whose credit worthiness they propose to rate."
http://www.small-business-goldmine.com/credit-ratings.html
Now remember Boys and Girls Figures don’t Lie, but Liars Figure; and in DR we have some of the Best Lying Figures in the World!
Roy that's the point.
After all that has been revealed and confirmed during this worldwide economic meltdown about the incestuous Ménage à Trois between the "regulators", the "raters" and the regulated, how can anyone can still have faith in anything these pinstriped gangster say is beyond me.
Both have been proven wrong time and time again, meanwhile making themselves wealthy at our expense. Yet to disagree with them is heresy.
Do you have another international agency in mind? Beggars can not be choosers
who is begging? maybe you. i have a problem with a ratings agency that makes a 2 TRILLION dollar error in a calculation. maybe not you, because you cannot count above ten, anyway. when a ratings agency downgrades over 6000 bonds, from AAA to junk, in a single day, that tells me that something is not right. i guess that you fail to understand the problems that were caused by such egregious shortcomings in performance, but those of us who can read, and understand, know that there are certain agencies which invested in these bonds, and should not have, by law. why am i wasting time trying to explain this to a 5th grade dropout, anyway?
From: United States
Roy that's the point.
After all that has been revealed and confirmed during this worldwide economic meltdown about the incestuous Ménage à Trois between the "regulators", the "raters" and the regulated, how can anyone can still have faith in anything these pinstriped gangster say is beyond me.
you can, if your name is Atabey, and you have no knowledge of the matter at hand.
What's the debt status of your Jamaica these days? Country ceiling of B+ would be a vast improvement, no?
As for your non-sense regarding Fitch and the rest, you still haven't matured enough to understand the first rule of the game: Balance of power dictates relationships in the international arena. And countries like the DR that have had many generations of poor financial and debt management ARE BEGGARS. Look at the example from the "mother country' Spain. Even in 2012 it's still being bossed around by the USA.
Someone hasn't grown up beyond 5th grade and he's the walking Eunuch with dreadlocks, care to wonder who he might be?
Josean,
Perhaps a bit of historical readings might help you in 2012. There's still time.
The dialogue is between unnamed Athenian envoys sent by generals Cleomedes son of Lycomedes and Tisias son of Tisimachus to negotiate with unnamed Melians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melian_dialogue
Why again is the Dollar the reserve currency of the World?
Is that availble in a Biometric format?
Written by: Atabey, 6 Jan 2012 10:02 AM
From: United States
Dready,
What's the debt status of your Jamaica these days?
the issue here is not relative analysis between Jamaica, and the DR. the fact is that you made some idiot remark about beggars being choosers, to which i responded. the fact that you do not know the difference between 2 trillion, and two hundred, speaks to your lack of education, and nothing else. regaling us with some copy paste nonsense makes you look even more foolish than you already are. as to the reserve currency question...i would answer it, if it was coming from someone whom could understand the answer.
And countries like the DR that have had many generations of poor financial and debt management ARE BEGGARS. Look at the example from the "mother country' Spain.
can you tell us the connection between your rabid musings, and Fitch?
As for your non-sense regarding Fitch and the rest, you still haven't matured enough to understand the first rule of the game
the first rule of my game is that if you wish to participate in a discussion of a subject, you need to know something about it, first.
Jamaica: B3-Stable--------------------------------DR: B1-Stable
Standard & Poor's Credit Rating
Jamaica: B- Stable---------------------------------DR: B+ Stable
Fitch credit rating
Jamaica: B- Stable---------------------------------DR: B+ Stable
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+ Comment now The SEC is apparently gearing a fraud case against credit rating agencies like Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s for their role in the financial crisis.
The SEC may file civil charges against ratings agencies for their role in the financial crisis.
SEC officials are looking into whether the ratings agencies committed fraud by failing to do enough research to rate adequately the pools of subprime mortgages and other loans, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.
Does anyone really think this will mean anything for investors? Not if they’ve seen what the SEC and other regulators have accomplished (or haven’t accomplished) before and after the 2008 financial crisis.
Here’s how this will play out: The SEC will file civil charges against the credit agencies for inflating their ratings on firms and products that they knew were doomed.
read, Atabey, read.
By: Mike Shedlock | Fri, Aug 19, 2011 Share Print Email In good times, no one wants to end a party and everyone is willing to turn a blind-eye to fraud, corruption, and excessive greed. Bear markets, however, expose the truth.
Massive fraud at Moody's now coming to light. Business Insider reports MOODY'S ANALYST BREAKS SILENCE: Says Ratings Agency Rotten To Core With Conflicts, Corruption, And Greed
A former senior analyst at Moody's has gone public with his story of how one of the country's most important rating agencies is corrupted to the core.
The analyst, William J. Harrington, worked for Moody's for 11 years, from 1999 until his resignation last year.
From 2006 to 2010, Harrington was a Senior Vice President in the derivative products group, which was responsible for producing many of the disastrous ratings Moody's issued during the housing bubble.
read, Atabey, read.
Shanny Basar in New York
23 Nov 2011 Updated at 18:38 GMT
Standard & Poor’s has been mired in controversy this month after sending out incorrect updates on both France and Brazil's sovereign debt and now academics have added to the agency's woes by finding it issued higher ratings after switching from an investor-pay to an issuer-pay model.
read, Atabey, read. a mind is a terrible thing to waste. even when it is simple, and shallow, and useless, like yours.
Your Jamaica is a classic case study, Dready le Eunuch.
"Rightly or wrongly, what is being said in private is that much of the Anglophone part of the Caribbean does not relate to the ways in which traditional partners now think, is locked into an historic analysis and is deploying a formalised approach that no longer politically resonates. There is also a sense that the failure of the Caribbean to deliver an integrated region and the absence of any new narrative about itself or its strategic objectives is making it difficult to sustain high level political interest outside the region."
Sounds like a description of Dready's Jamaica.
Sounds like a description of Dready's Jamaica.
sounds like every caribbean island, as a matter of fact, the author of the article said so. i guess the content of the article is too complex for you to understand.
"Hispanic Caribbean"!!!
I guess your glasses are still dirty from all that brown stuff, Dready Le Eunuch. Clean your hands before leaving the bathroom.
ApeBoy, just checked the latest Human Development Report. Jamaica ranks 79 in the list of countries reported upon. it is considered High Human Development. the DR ranks number 98, and is considered Medium Human Development. i was amazed that a country that produces cretins like you could rank as high as 98.
I guess your glasses are still dirty from all that brown stuff,
i understand our fixation upon this matter. after all, you are the guy to whom one poster referred as a turd.
Which political party do you think should be elected? Why?
Thanks
I would be happy to answer, not that I haven’t already in several dozen posts, after you tell which party you think should be elected and why?
Not a problem, I believe that in the last three decades, the PLD has done a better job, than the PRD and PRSC combined, especially in the areas public infrastructures, services and overall macroeconomics.
To me, the PLD has a better defined political platform, that is not centered on the persona of its presidential candidates. When I hear slogans like "Llegó Papá!", it amazes me that our society is still holding own to the populist notions that gave us 22yrs of President Balaguer and fueled the personality cult of Trujillo's era.
Arcangel96,
Why doesn’t that surprise me!
“that is not centered on the persona of its presidential candidates. When I hear slogans like "Llegó Papá!", it amazes me that our society is still holding own to the populist notions that gave us 22yrs of President Balaguer and fueled the personality cult of Trujillo's era”
But your God Lie-onel, which you leave out of your rhetoric, because he is more unpopular the cholera right now, said he is a Balguerista and a Vinchista, i.e. a Neo Trujillista, since both these animals were lap dogs of Trujillo!
And for the PLD to attack the PRD for a cult of personality is like the Pot calling the Kettle Black.
Wasn't the second coming of Christ known to us mere mortals as Lie-onel Fernandez the one who said he was the only person capable of conceptualizing and refused to debate the other candidates in 2008?
If that is not a Cult of personality ala Chairman Moa you can excuse me.
continued:
My Candidate is Guillermo Moreno because when in 1996 he saw the cesspool of corruption and the latrine of Narco traffic the PLD was becoming he left, just like Juan Bosch left the PRD when that organization imploded.
I support Mr. Moreno because he honest, transparent, incorruptible and will make education of the Dominican people a priority.
Please go to Alianza Pais web site: and read his proposals especial the section on lower and higher education:
http://www.alianzapais.com.do/
"Hispanic Caribbean"!!!
What's Jamaica's GDP growth the last say 20 years? You're the "trending guy" remember, Dready!
How are those trends going for Jamaica?
Jamaica's economic growth to 2015 projected to be 7th slowest in the world
BY STEVEN JACKSON
JAMAICA will have the seventh slowest growth rate in the world up to 2015, according to a new International Monetary Fund (IMF) report analysed by the Business Observer, indicating missed opportunities for the debt-ridden country.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....n-the-world_8046873#ixzz1itWKuasX
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....n-the-world_8046873#ixzz1itWmJuHA
Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent.
"The IMF is saying that they don't foresee Jamaica changing its growth patterns in the near future," stated Charles Ross, financial analyst and principal of Sterling Asset Management, a non-ali
"If people don't believe in the benefits of economic growth it has lifted the Chinese out of poverty into prosperity. Thirty years ago most Chinese nationals were barefoot peasants living on a bowl of rice and today they live in modern cities with wealth and have the second-largest economy in the world," Ross said adding that countries in Latin America are replicating the Chinese model.
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Dready Le Eunuch, what have you to say? Devastating rebuttal. But there's more.
"We have borrowed and borrowed and now the debt has itself become an obstacle for growth because you have to put so much of government resources into servicing the debt that very little is left for public investment in infrastructure that would facilitate growth," stated Ross, who added that Jamaica's US$1.3-billion stand-by agreement with the IMF signed in February should have included growth objectives. "I don't understand why the IMF programme did not address growth. It should have addressed growth."
Jamaica, in order to improve its growth prospects will have to maintain a sustained period of macro-stability in the economic, social and regulatory arena, argued Williams. Further, he said the private sector will have to design strategies to enhance its international competitiv
Jamaica's ability to attract foreign direct investment (FDI) has trailed the region, growing four times slower than the Caribbean between 2001 and 2008, according to the Annual Statistical Yearbook by the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC) published in June. ECLAC, which is one of five regional commissions of the United Nations Economic and Social Council, added that Jamaica's external debt grew twice as fast as the Caribbean on a whole and 16 times faster than Latin America over the same period. At the same time, Jamaica's trade deficit worsened three times faster than the Caribbean region but slightly worse than Latin America.
Jamaica's economic decline mirrors its decline in the UN Human Development Index (HDI) at 100 in 2009 from 92 in 2006. The Doing Business 2010 report, a joint publication of the World Bank,
The IMF intimated that Jamaica was not alone in terms of operating a fragile economy affected by the global downturn.
"The global recovery remains fragile, because strong policies to foster internal rebalancing of demand from public to private sources and external rebalancing from deficit to surplus economies are not yet in place. Global activity is forecast to expand by 4.8 per cent in 2010 and 4.2 per cent in 2011, broadly in line with earlier expectations, and downside risks continue to predominate. WEO projections are that output of emerging and developing economies will expand at rates of 7.1 and 6.4 per cent, respectively, in 2010 and 2011," the IMF stated about the WEO report.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....be-7th-slowest-in-the-world_80468
I never said that President Fernandez is a God, or God like or the second coming of Jesus Christ. My statement was clear. Among the three major political parties, in the last three decades, the PLD seem to have a better track record with the economy than the other two parties. C'mon, let's give credit where credit is due. Now, about the slogan, don't you find it a little condescending?? (If you don't, then enough said)
Moreover, in this upcoming elections, President Fernandez is not seeking re-election, instead, Danilo Medina is the candidate for the PLD. On the other hand, for the PRD, the option is Mr. Mejía. Really?! Was him the best candidate from the PRD? No fresh blood??? (And this is the grave disservice I see to our country)
Today, we have pretty much two options PLD or PRD that's pretty much it. We seem to be slowly transitioning to a two party system like in the USA, which limits the chances of Mr. Moreno on being elected as a third party candid
The same message I gave to Josean a year or so ago. The choices are evident and clear: PLD or PRD. Moreno is a throw away vote or protest vote, at best. Nothing against the person, Moreno, just realizing the practical realities involved.
@ Arcangel96,
“Moreover, in this upcoming elections, President Fernandez is not seeking re-election, instead, Danilo Medina is the candidate for the PLD. On the other hand, for the PRD, the option is Mr. Mejía. Really?! Was him the best candidate from the PRD? No fresh blood??? (And this is the grave disservice I see to our country)”
First I am not here to speak up for the PRD or its presidential candidate there others here on DT that can do that.
However, I do see an extreme danger to the microscopic embryonic democracy we have if the Purple Narco Mafia gets to retain power. For the last two years I feel that most of the sectors of the Dominican society have come to that realization also. In fact many former PLDistas wich are not affiliated with any other political organization have and are speaking out about this neo dictatorship that has been forming.
continued:
The recent resignation of Dr. Taína Gautreau a very active 35 year member of the party validates what a great majority of the public has been feeling. Certainly she would know more about inner corruption of the PLD and its political leadership than ANY of us here on DT can speculate pro or con. In fact one of her criticisms is precisely the concentration of power in a few individuals and the fact that no opportunity is given to new people (blood) with new ideas.
So you are not really stating that Danilo Medina represents fresh blood are you? Isn’t he the defeated candidate of 2000? Isn’t he the guy that challenged Lie-onel in 2008 and when defeated in the primary accused Lie-onel of using the resources of the state? However, now he is the one abusing the resources of the state himself. He sort of the Mitt Romney of the PLD that nobody wants but are stuck with him and his poll numbers don’t rise. Remember he was challenged by at least 6 or 7 “new” bloods.
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In fact since 1996 the PLD has had the same two guys running for president Lie-onel or Danilo i.e. “Bob Hope and No Hope,” not too much new blood there either wouldn’t you say!
All of the people around Danilo also don’t represent fresh blood they are essentially the same mafia that has ruled the party and the government since 1996. They have violated their own parties bylaws by extending the reign of power of the current members of the Political Committee beyond what's allowed under their rules. How about the imposing Lie-onel’s wife as a vice presidential candidate; a woman who is not member of any of the hierarchy of the party nor has she ever been elected to any office.
Isn’t that also a great disservice to our country as well?
"C'mon, let's give credit where credit is due”
Credit for what:
More drug traffic than ever in the history of the republic;
More insecurity and crime;
One of the worst educational systems in the world;
Continued:
The refusal to obey the law and fund education at the constitutionally mandated 4%;
Widening the gap between the haves and the have not’s;
“a better track record with the economy than the other two parties”
The biggest foreign debt in the history of the republic;
Currently in violation of the agreement with the IMF;
An electrical system that is strangling business development and stifling foreign investment;
Domestic violence and the killing of women at historic levels never seen before;
Illegal immigration from Haiti totally out of control;
International Drug Lords from Puerto Rico living freely for years under Lie-onel’s nose;
Continued:
Giving a $36,000,000 million dollar loan to a Spanish Drug dealer that the Spanish government has stated had no known entrepreneurial history to merit that type of credit;
Credit for receiving a personal check for half a million pesos from a known Dominican drug dealer;
Just to name a few of the things they “Should Really be given Credit for!”
Okidoki...I get it, you don't like the PLD. Your position is unshakeable. I respect that, I don't agree with it, but I respect it.
Now, the reality today is that, come election day, the only viable options are the PRD and the PLD. I guess if the PLD wins, which I see unlikely, we will hear more from. :)
Anyway, ...until next post...
"I get it, you don't like the PLD."
As well as a majority of other Dominicans and growing every day!
"Your position is unshakeable."
Now what ever gave you that impression!
"I don't agree with it"
After over welling scientific evidence some people still believe the world is flat and that Obama was not born in the United States. But I also respect that.
“the reality today is that”
The only reality in life is that the world is dynamic and in constant change. In Trujillo’s time we had only one political party just liken the Soviet Union and both seemingly invincible oppressive systems where overthrown. More recently the Arab spring has shaken the foundations of many tyrannical despots with more money and smarts than Lie-onel and his motley crew will ever have. Like Tug McGraw and ’69 METS use to say you got believe.
continued:
"we will hear more from"
Absolutely; even if Guillermo wins and turns out to be a piece of caca like Lie-onel and the Narco-PLD. My allegiance is to the Dominican people not to a man "caudillo" or to political party.
As Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. would say “Keep the faith baby, Keep the faith!
As he lined his pocket from the public treasury.
By the mid-1960s, Powell was increasingly being criticized for mismanaging his committee's budget, taking trips abroad at public expense, and missing sittings of his committee. He responded,
"I wish to state very emphatically," he said once when under attack for personal conduct (he had taken two young women at government expense with him on overseas travel) by Congress and the press, "that I will always do just what every other Congressman and committee chairman has done and is doing and will do."[10]
"Powell's increasing absenteeism was noted by his constituents. In June 1970, he was defeated in the Democratic primary by Charles B. Rangel."
And we all know how Charles B. Rangel has turned out. Even has a DR connection in Punta Cana, I believe.
Josean, politicians are made overwhelmingly in one mode: self interest.
Atabey the quote from Congressman Powell was for literary emphasis not an endorsement of his views or behaviors. I am well aware of his career he was my congressman when I lived in New York for a brief period .
I just never like to use a quote without attribution, as I hate plagiarism almost as much as censorship.
Also this statement is stating the obvious:
"Josean, politicians are made overwhelmingly in one mode: self interest".
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Dready Le Eunuch, nothin' nah gwan'.
what have you to say? Devastating rebuttal.
nothin' nah gwan'. Jamaica, however, can expect more of the same as it is projected to trail some 143 nations in the world in growth statistics, which is a barometer of prosperity. With projections of about 1.3 per cent annually over the next five years,
"the region is projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
Oops, the Dominican Republic! Where's Jamaica???
Nothin' nah gwan', Man.
As for my rebuttal above, I see where having NO WHERE TO HIDE and lacking any sense of debate, you have shriveled up. The facts speak for themselves: DR has galloped passed Jamaica in the passed two decades: "[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Source: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....n-the-world_8046873#ixzz1itWmJuHA
And that's not a Dominican's take on Jamaica versus the Dominican Republic, it comes from INDEPENDENT SOURCED MATERIALS. Printed in a JAMAICAN newspaper!
What a beat down Dready! No wonder you look
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List....ntries_by_Human_Development_Index
with all the numbers you think that you can post, i see where Jamaica ranks above the DR in the Human Development Index. actually, it is regarded as High Human Development, while the DR is in a lower category, Medium Human Development. that tells me that it is not what you have, but how you use it. it is no good being a rich guy, and blowing the money at the racetrack. even though you have raced past, as you say, you still come last in education testing, producing uneducated nitwits like you. 2nd worst in the world in government mismanagement. third worst in the world in electricity loss. 42% below the poverty line. 4th in the world in the exportation of prostitutes. second from the bottom in lowest wages of all ethnic groups in the USA., beating only Colombia.one of the highest levels of inequality in the region.
I remember a guy who stated that he was a numbers guy and into "trending" One had to look at how the stats were moving over time. This guy has a certain accent and long hair with dreadlocks. Care to find him on DT?
Dready, your argument has been blown to shreds! Man up and accept it.
While Jamaica will have the 7th LOWEST economic growth in the WORLD! The Dominican Republic will be part of:
"the region .. projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
Stats and trending. You know, those twin categories you ONCE said were crucial in determining a winning argument.
Stay on topic Dready.
high human development
medium human development
high is better than medium
we have never come in last, in anything. we may be 7th slowest in economic growth. you are second worst, in the world, in EDUCATIONAL TESTING. maybe that explains idiots like you. yes, LAST , in all countries, in mathematics. dead last!! maybe that explains why you do not know the difference between stats and calculus. yes, Atabey. not 7th worst. ABSOLUTE WORST!!! in EDUCATION, no less. DEAD LAST!!!!
Stay on topic Dready.
that comes from a person who introduces economic events in Jamaica into a thread discussing the credit rating of the Dominican Republic. that is usually referred to as hijacking a thread. now i guess that you all will understand why it is that i contend that his IQ is several orders of magnitude below that of a chimpanzee.
Dready, your argument has been blown to shreds! Man up and accept it.
While Jamaica will have the 7th LOWEST economic growth in the WORLD! The Dominican Republic will be part of:
"the region .. projected to outperform the world economy at 4.5 per cent on average over the period, due to stellar performances expected from Brazil, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Peru, Chile and Colombia."
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
"Jamaica's economic decline mirrors its decline in the UN Human Development Index (HDI) at 100 in 2009 from 92 in 2006."---STEVEN JACKSON
It's the trending, dear Dready.
It's the trending, dear Dready.
yes, Atabey, it is the trending. 100 in 2009, from 92 in 2006. however, as usual, you only trade in half trutths. you did not mention number 79, in 2011. it's the trending, Atabey. by the way, what is your position in the HDI? Ithink that it is below 79, no?
"[W]hilst the Dominican Republic, often compared to Jamaica for its historically similar income levels has galloped past Jamaica with growth rates consistently in the high single digits from the '90s trending into 2015."
What have you to say about Mr Jackson's observation based on the data?
He states the DR has "galloped past Jamaica" His words, not mine.
Now to the business of fixing the economy
The Jamaican economy after the elections
By Al Edwards
Friday, January 06, 2012
WITH the general election now clearly in the country’s rear-view mirror, a collective effort must now be made to grow the economy and improve the lives of all Jamaicans. For decades the Jamaican economy has exhibited anaemic growth.
According to the World Economic Outlook published by the IMF last year, Jamaica will have the seventh slowest growth rate in the world up to 2015. Over the last 30 years, annual gross domestic product growth in Jamaica has been less than one per cent. Therefore the first item on any new administration’s agenda should be how it intends to stimulate growth.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/bu....-fixing-the-economy#ixzz1jCRXwJFI
Mr. Edwards also see the anemic, less than 1% GDP growth! of the past 30 years as item number one for the incoming administration.