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SANTO DOMINGO.- President Danilo Medina on warned that if a tax reform which will provide additional revenue equal to two percentage points of the GDP isn’t approved, the government "will simply close down."

Speaking in a meeting of the Economic and Social Council on Thursday, Medina also said the country needs to take a hard look at the electricity sector and blamed international organizations of focusing only on solving its technical and non-technical energy losses.

He said just the areas of education, the debt, quasi-fiscal deficit commitments, wages, energy and allocations to other branches of government will invariably require RD$373.0 billion, while revenue is only 334.0 billion.

The chief executive said he’ll focus on reviewing the electricity sector’s business structure, noting that it’s one of the main reasons for the energy crisis.

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Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 7:22 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Oh no the dreaded ribbon cuttings !



Written by: WalterPolo, 10 Oct 2012 7:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Start by selling the torre Progreso apartments and kick the lambones out. Get their resignation too.

Then, shut down the government.

The people will do what's necessary.
Written by: PuntaCanaMike, 10 Oct 2012 7:24 AM
From: Dominican Republic
From what I see, shutting down the government might not be a bad option! I might add...as long as those currently involved in the government do not continue to be paid regardless.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 7:26 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Like I have been saying Saint Danilo "MORE OF THE SAME ONLY WORSE!"


Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 7:32 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

Walt,

El Progreso is now called Lie-onel's "WATERGATE TOWERS!"


Written by: BASTA, 10 Oct 2012 7:50 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all
^^^ 3***s 1+
Written by: elBuscoon, 10 Oct 2012 7:51 AM
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion

Shut the DOORS the People of The Dominican Republic Dont need you.

If you Dont get Out, You Will Be Taken Out By Force.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 8:05 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Guys why hasn't the moral and honorable follower of the CIA agent Juan Bosch (according to ATABEY) Saint Danilo, spoken out about Lie-onel's "WATER GATE TOWERS?"


Written by: RobertoJose, 10 Oct 2012 8:13 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Reduce government salaries to a reasonable amount!!! Paying $16,000.00USD a month is a bit much for someone that doesn't produce and while the national minimum wage is around $350.00USD monthly.
Written by: RobertoJose, 10 Oct 2012 8:14 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
This government needs to be overthrown anyways, might as well shut it down!!!!
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 8:21 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Bobby Joe with the financial crisis, the pension robberies and now WATERGATE TOWERS just to name 3 current scandals, in most countries just 1 of these would be enough to have the people on the streets demanding the removal of this criminal government!

Written by: elBuscoon, 10 Oct 2012 8:21 AM
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion

Ya Basta Coño,

Revolucion Revolucion Revolucion Revolucion Revolucion

The time has come to take them out.

NOW
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 8:26 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


elBuscoon,

Don' t think the Little Cry Baby President of the Senate ,Pared Perez, dosen't already have the RUNS!

Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 8:36 AM
From: United States, NYC
ESTADÍSTICAS SOBRE EVASIÓN DE IMPUESTOS

En junio de este año la Dirección General de Impuestos Internos (DGII) reveló que 19,780 empresas (92.49%) que reciben ingresos por concepto de intereses generados de depósitos colocados en bancos a plazo fijo están evadiendo el pago del 29% de esos ingresos, que debe ser reportado como renta.

Un documento estadístico de la entidad arrojó que el sistema tiene registradas 21,385 empresas que reciben ingresos por concepto de intereses gravados con el 1% sobre intereses pagados a personas jurídicas, pero de estas, 11,300 declaran el ISR pero no los ingresos por intereses, y 8,480 que no declaran ningún impuesto”.


Massive tax evasion must also be tackled. Dominicans have long been accustomed to pushing their obligations and duties as citizens and private sector investors onto some fictional "other."

Modern times dictate that tax evasion be tackled and the informality that makes up 51% of businesses gain greater tax compliance.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 8:37 AM
From: United States, NYC

Evasión fiscal debe ser tratada en la reforma

FUNCIONARIOS PIDEN ENFRENTAR EL TEMA DE LA INFORMALIDAD


Santo Domingo
Empresarios y funcionarios públicos consideran que la evasión tributaria debe ser un tema de debate en el proceso de pacto fiscal en el que está inmerso el país, en un momento en el que alrededor del 51% de las empresas nacionales permanecen en la informalidad."


Tax evasion should be treated in the reform

OFFICIALS CALL ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF INFORMAL


Santo Domingo

Businessmen and government officials believe that tax evasion should be a topic of discussion in the process of fiscal pact in which the country is immersed in a time when about 51% of domestic firms remain informal."
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 8:40 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


"Modern times" also dictate a forensic investigation of all revenues and expenditures by an internationally recognized forensic accounting firm!


Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 8:42 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



I'm glad to see you're copying josean's style of posting bilingual!


Written by: generoso, 10 Oct 2012 8:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
If government shuts down, last function the bureaucrats will perform is to pension themselves with a cushy salary!
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 8:56 AM
From: United States, NYC


"an internationally recognized forensic accounting firm!"


What freaking dimension do you live in? I guess you might entertain some thoughts regarding this matter. Arthur Andersen did a "great job" with Enron, no?


The heart of the matter is that DR is UNDER TAXED and her citizens have evaded taxes for many generations. Much like their counterparts in Greece and Spain, and in the rest of Latin America, tax evasion is a national past time. Some 51% of businesses don't pay their required 29% tax and this adds up to a massive negative revenue stream for the government.

Yes there are serious issues with corruption, but a significant part of that corruption is the non-compliance and impunity of many towards their responsibility as citizens of the republic.

You want better schools, better paid public service employees-police, teachers, etc., THEN reform the tax system; force people to report their undeclared rents.

Written by: hernandez5482, 10 Oct 2012 8:57 AM
From: United States, Vivir sin Patria, es lo mismo que vivir sin Honor.
I noticed PLD lovers don't comment on these issues..........
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 9:07 AM
From: United States
Atabey, i feel for your concern regarding the state of the economy. when you and i were having our back and forth fight, i tried to tell you that the DR economy was in a world of sh*t, but you did not seem to see what i was saying. i am not gloating, because i live here, and whatever hurts my neighbor hurts me. when a government hands out 700 million pesos to political parties to finance campaigns, that is not sustainable. when the president and his cronies get apartments like they were a Presidente grande, and not a multimillion peso piece of property, it will not be long before things crash. it is not tax shortfall that is the problem. the country is run by a criminal element, that has earned the DR government the number 144 spot of countries that mismanage the economy. you can tax till hell freezes over, and all you will get is less revenue. the only thing you will get is more creative tax evasion, by the people who can best afford to pay. trust me on that one.
Written by: generoso, 10 Oct 2012 9:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
Atabey
The spendthrift DR government does not provide good services, security, transparency, education, health, and the taxpayer has zero political representation. The legislators are just leeches and bums, and the government just creates more populist dependents on the "tarjeta solidaridad".
The government should have an austerity plan, reduce employees, salaries and pensions, and stop wasteful spending, instead of always tapping the ordinary citizens with increased taxes. What gall!
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 9:09 AM
From: United States, NYC

Top 10 Countries Losing to Tax Evasion - 2011

COUNTRY SIZE OF SHADOW ECONOMY (%) ---TAX BURDEN OVERALL (%)

U.S. --- ------------------------8.6% ------------------------------------26.9%
Brazil--- ------------------39%------------------------------------- 34.4%
Italy ------------------------ 27% ------------------------------------43.1%
Russia---- ------------------43.8%------------------------------------ 34.1%
Germany------------------- 16%------------------------------------- 40.6%
France -------------------------15% ------------------------------------44.6%
Japan ----------------------- 11%----- -------------------------------------28.3%
China ------------------- 12.7%----------------------------------- 18%
U.K. ------------------------- 12.5%----------------------------------------38.9%
Spain --------------------- 22.5%----------------------------------------33.9%


This problem affects even the rich countries of the world.
Written by: RobertoJose, 10 Oct 2012 9:10 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
The government was giving free rides as long as it was able to redirect funds to an off-shore account.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 9:14 AM
From: United States, NYC
It's not like this is rocket science. Even Josean should understand that evading taxes with impunity is NOT good for the nation's development.

07.07.2012 - Oslo

Norway Takes Lead in Combating Tax Evasion in Developing Countries
Government introduces new measures to combat tax evasion in developing countries.

Poor countries need tax revenue to invest in health and education, says Development Minister Heikki Holmås.

Norway will introduce so-called country-by-country reporting (LLR). This means that companies must report to the authorities in the countries where they operate about their payments.

The purpose is to demonstrate cash flow and make the authorities in those countries where companies operate responsible for the use of revenues from their natural resources.

- I am proud that Norway is going ahead to combat tax evasion. Poor countries need tax revenue to invest in health and education."-- Heikki Holmås.
Written by: gmiller261, 10 Oct 2012 9:15 AM
From: United States

Great... LF you f...ing empty suit screw up.

I knew he did not have the credentials to be called a President.

Impeach his wife.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 9:19 AM
From: United States
says Generoso

Written by: generoso, 10 Oct 2012 9:09 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Atabey
The spendthrift DR government does not provide good services, security, transparency, education, health, and the taxpayer has zero political representation. The legislators are just leeches and bums, and the government just creates more populist dependents on the "tarjeta solidaridad".
The government should have an austerity plan, reduce employees, salaries and pensions, and stop wasteful spending, instead of always tapping the ordinary citizens with increased taxes. What gall!

adding to that would be a waste of broadband. that says it all.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 9:22 AM
From: United States, NYC
Generoso,

I understand the concerns of many that IF revenues increased via better tax compliance the resulting revenue streams would only go to the pockets of the corrupt politicians and their friends.

Both a serious decrease in "botellas" and compliance with a rules based governance MUST come with the greater revenue streams to underpin the modernization process. Unless this is done, DR will suffer greatly. The leaders have to show the way, but the people and businesses must be made to accept their part of the deal, too.

Medina needs to EDUCATE the population about that responsibility as well as get it through to the business community that modernity will not arrive solely on the back of greater government handouts and the same old non-compliance with taxes nation-wide!
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 9:23 AM
From: United States
Atabey, the graphic you show relates to tax evasion by the informal sector, which lies outside the realm of tax initiatives. they probably do not show a figure for countries like yours and mine, since they do not have a firm grasp of the size of the shadow economy.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 9:32 AM
From: United States, NYC

I was just giving some information concerning how large and significant this issue is EVEN for the richer nations. With some 51% of businesses in the informal sector in DR. The State loses significant funding streams that should go towards underpinning the modernization process in DR.

Much like that change back in 2008 that saw a Law from the 1844 Constitution changed regarding reporting of earnings by firms, this correction in tax evasion is a necessary condition if DR wants to get its house in order. Yes, it's great when-for the individual-you get to keep all the rents and not pay your share to the State and local governments. But in the end, it's the community and the country at large that is left with the challenges of meeting public sector demands without enough resources. Want better schools and a better country, comply with the laws and that means: pay up.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 9:36 AM
From: United States
i have no issue with your posting. however, there are countries in the world with large informal sectors, which are not in the fiscal bind that we are now in. the current crisis stems from the fact that the money has been either stolen, or misallocated. now that Danilo has committed to the 4% for education, where is that going to come from, after he blows the existing funds completing the metro?
Written by: RobertoJose, 10 Oct 2012 9:36 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
I wonder what will happen if the dominican republic were to convert to gold as a currency instead of the peso chasing the dollar.

Oh yeah....lets launch ant-knee off the coast of punta canna in a dingy w/ a blanket for a sail so that he can hitch a ride with the trade winds.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 9:39 AM
From: United States, NYC


"While the governments of developed countries raise on average 37% of their national income in tax, the figure is much lower in most developing countries: Bangladesh and India, for example, take just 8% and 9% respectively. If all developing countries could increase their tax revenues to just 15% of national income, we calculate that $198bn extra each year would be available to spend on education, healthcare and other development activities – more than all overseas aid combined.

So what can be done about it? In-country reforms to improve tax policy, widen the base of people and companies that are taxed, and strengthen tax administrations are all important. With the help of financial and technical assistance from donors such as the UK's Department for International Development, Rwanda – to take one example – was able to quadruple its tax revenues in less than a decade."


Very simple:

Want modernity? Then STEAL LESS and Pay your Taxes!

Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 9:45 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

Mister Mumbo Jumbo with all his irrelevant grafs and charts doesn't understand that no matter whatever system you have, if criminals are running it will not work.

This system works perfectly for the corrupt political elites and their supporters hence there will be no change.

Their new tax scheme is designed to keep things exactly the way it works for them; bleed the poor and embryonic middle class so they can continue to evade and steal!


They no longer have credibilty with Dominican people!






Written by: JHCL2016, 10 Oct 2012 9:51 AM
From: United States, EN PUNTA CANA: Jose H Con Leonel 2016!
Atabey,

Grade A job!.... Well said and with facts to back it up... Congrats...


Consejito para los PPHachunos: Pongan sus huevos para el '20, porque el '16 es también de Leonel!

Stop whining, coge pa'lante y manos a la obra!

8-)


Danilo es Presidente, Leonel 2016!
JHCL2016@yahoo.com / PLD.NEPA@gmail.com
Written by: JHCL2016, 10 Oct 2012 9:56 AM
From: United States, EN PUNTA CANA: Jose H Con Leonel 2016!

Poor deadlocks is worry that the SS will run out and his, already tiny check, will be further reduced.

Ese va rumbo a Walmart, stocking boxes 10pm to 4am...

Consejito para los PPHachunos: Pongan sus huevos para el '20, porque el '16 es también de Leonel!

Stop whining, coge pa'lante y manos a la obra!

8-)

Danilo es Presidente, Leonel 2016!
JHCL2016@yahoo.com / PLD.NEPA@gmail.com
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 9:58 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



How nice a passenger on the Titanic complementing the band leader before it sinks!


You two must have gotten an apartment at Lie-onel's WATERGATE TOWERS!




Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 10:16 AM
From: United States
JHCL, adults are attempting to discuss a serious issue here. have some manners, and a little upbringing, and keep your silly remarks to yourself. i do not depend on the DR government for anything. i have a PENSION, you moron. you get that from working, for several years, a concept with which you are unfamiliar.. the tax situation in the DR has nothing to do with the US treasury. when the topic moves to something like jugando gallo, then you can make your entrance. before that, you can figure out how you are going to explain to the US government what you did with your pell grant.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 10:18 AM
From: United States
JHCL, which SUNY did you attend? what was your SAT score? what did you study? basket weaving?
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 10:26 AM
From: United States
Atabey, the problem with money is that it adds up real fast. take 2000 pesos to the supermarket, buy a few items, and, before you know it, it is gone, leaving you wondering what happened. when you have hundreds of government parasites importing cars , duty free, getting gas cards, and using the gas to travel outside of government business, it adds up.when the President needs two jetliners to take an entourage on a sightseeing jaunt, it adds up. 180 apartments in a luxury building adds up. astronomical pensions add up. a billion pesos to political campaigns adds up. get the point?
Written by: vacanos, 10 Oct 2012 10:28 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

Generoso
You are right on money as usual. This PAQUETAZO is nothing more than a sham. They are now going into pickpocket on the citizen to finance their thief activity.

In the history of modern DR there has been only two period of austerity programs implemented by the government both during conservative administration of Dr. Joaquin Balaguer, back in 1966 after the civil war that brought the country to its knee and most recently in 1986 after the finincial crisis created by the PRD of 1984-85.

One of the measure included in the "paquetazo" is for adjuster to go visit your home and state the amount your home is worth and if your home is lets say worth around 5 millions pesos you will have to pay 50,000 pesos yearly roughly $1,300 Dollars and if your home worth double that amount then the amount to pay will be $100,000 pesos. These thieves are really good at their game. They find a way to milk the cow even in bad time.
Written by: chilliwestaziz, 10 Oct 2012 10:29 AM
From: Jamaica
Interesting topic!
We can articulate this problem till doomsday but the best approach to solve this problem is to start by changing the 'old' mind set. Governments throughout the Caribbean have become complacent with overspending because they see debt and deficit as chess pieces. Fiscal responsibility has become a process of running your country into debt, calling upon the IMF to bail you out, demonstrate (to the IMF) a viable revenue repayment stream (taxing the hell out of everyone) to show solvency. The last resort (changing spending habits) should actually be the first response. Lower salaries of the government's overpaid workers, restructure ridiculous pensions, re-prioritize projects, etc, etc. Change your diet of spending first before you burden the people and force them to change theirs (literally).
Written by: BLANCO, 10 Oct 2012 10:34 AM
From: Dominican Republic
WHAT GOVERNMENT??? THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT HERE!!
it is a series of mafia operated businesss posing as a gov't. secretariat of this, ministry of that,
directorate of who cares, and other designations to hide the fact, that each is maned(or womaned)by a group of uneducated non-qualified people who are generally there by nepotism and patronage with their hands out to steal what they can from the dominican people under the DISGUISE of a GOVERNMENT.

my head is spinning no more!!!!

this comment is for all parties past and present
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 10:34 AM
From: United States
brilliant, chilliwestaziz. all this government is trying to do is to raise enough money to afford its current lifestyle. it is like a guy who works 14 hours of overtime per week, in order to pay the note on a BMW. he could have afforded a Nissan Sentra, but he wants the fillet steak lifestyle , with a soup meat bank account.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 10:57 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Atabey and your response to the eloquent comments of the previous posters is?


Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 11:04 AM
From: United States
says vacanos

One of the measure included in the "paquetazo" is for adjuster to go visit your home and state the amount your home is worth and if your home is lets say worth around 5 millions pesos you will have to pay 50,000 pesos yearly roughly $1,300 Dollars and if your home worth double that amount then the amount to pay will be $100,000 pesos. These thieves are really good at their game. They find a way to milk the cow even in bad time.

do you have a problem with that measure?
Written by: vacanos, 10 Oct 2012 11:08 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

I have no desire to argue with a racist afrocentrist like you at this moment.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 11:12 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

“The thievery continues and Saint Danilo is speechless; expect to ask for more TAXES for more THIEVERY to continue!”

"El Progreso apartments are a quick BUCK (Peso) Deal!

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic.-Several of the apartments that the Government of the former President of the Republic, Leonel Fernández, conceded to several officials, associates and relatives of and his his wife, the current Vice President of the Republic, Margarita Cedeno of Fernandez, already are on sale or rent.

As reported by a source to Acento.com.do states that apartments are being sold at prices above those originally quoted, a few months after being allocated by the Government.

Read the rest of the article and take a virtual tour of Lie-onel’s “WATERGATE TOWERS" at:

acento.com.do/index.php/news/22367/56/Apartamentos-de-El-Progreso-constituyen-un-negocio-de-ganancia-rapida.html


Written by: BLANCO, 10 Oct 2012 11:16 AM
From: Dominican Republic
These thieves are really good at their game. They find a way to milk the cow even in bad time.

THIS REMINDS ME OF STORY in the spring 1986 when i lived in samana and the election swing was in full bloom and the criminal JORGE BLANCO and his band of thieves were about to be thrown out the door, a young BALAGUER supporter said " IT IS OUR TURN TO SUCK THE TIT"
and so life goes on.
Written by: JMONTILLA, 10 Oct 2012 11:17 AM
From: United States
Mr copy and paste is at it again
Written by: JMONTILLA, 10 Oct 2012 11:19 AM
From: United States
Im refering toJosean by the way but he knows I was talking to about him..
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 11:22 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Your late for class My SON!





Written by: DomRat, 10 Oct 2012 11:33 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Well put that way, let's see see how well we do without government for a bit. When doctors go on strike the death rate falls.
Written by: DomRat, 10 Oct 2012 11:37 AM
From: Dominican Republic
'One of the measure included in the "paquetazo" is for adjuster to go visit your home'
Damn, another guy to payoff. That job will surely generate a lot of loot for the lucky 'government' employee.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 11:55 AM
From: United States
says vacanos

Written by: vacanos, 10 Oct 2012 11:08 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

I have no desire to argue with a racist afrocentrist like you at this moment.

i take that response to mean that you have no intelligent answer. that is to be expected.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 11:58 AM
From: United States
says vacanos

One of the measure included in the "paquetazo" is for adjuster to go visit your home and state the amount your home is worth

that would be an appraiser, vacanos. with a guy with so much lip, the least you can do is to learn the difference.
Written by: synapse, 10 Oct 2012 12:06 PM
From: United States

Now that is a good idea - Yes Please Shut it down!

That could be the best austerity program yet proposed.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2012 12:30 PM
From: United States
that after I cleans your cloak

what the heck is that, vacanos? tell me when i stop laughing.
Written by: NYGuy35, 10 Oct 2012 12:48 PM
From: United States
Maybe if the RD government shuts down all the people with no show jobs will be exposed. Those people will still have money to eat!
Written by: Atabey, 10 Oct 2012 1:43 PM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: chilliwestaziz,
From: Jamaica

Interesting topic!

"The last resort (changing spending habits) should actually be the first response. Lower salaries of the government's overpaid workers, restructure ridiculous pensions, re-prioritize projects, etc, etc. Change your diet of spending first before you burden the people and force them to change theirs (literally)."


Doing so DOES NOT mitigate against eliminating many tax dodgers and the many tax loopholes given out.

Both increase vigilance against "botellas" and other forms of corruption PLUS a fiscally sound taxation based revenue stream that meets the demands of the modernization process are needed. These are NOT-repeat after me FordJoseana-Mutually Exclusive!
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 1:57 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


No Mumbo Jumbo and NO NEW TAXES UNTIL a forensic examination is done.

The time for PURPLE FUNGLODE inspired BULL SHIT is over!

Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 10 Oct 2012 2:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 10 Oct 2012 2:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
About a week ago news spread about an American man robbed and killed in Puerto Plata, and all those who hate us had a little party saying all kind of horrible things about Dominican people, including the top Dominican hater danny, but little did they know that they already have the killers, all Haitians Listin Diario reports.

These people are turning our country into a mess, I say let's give them a modified Trujillo treatment.
Written by: chilliwestaziz, 10 Oct 2012 2:52 PM
From: Jamaica
I am happy to have provoked some responses from my post. I actually did not join this site to be a 'keyboard preacher' but rather I am hoping to learn how different countries interpret and approach their social and economic problems. My goal is to keep it real without mixing too much of the 'polarizing politics' into the intellectual pot pourri.

I am not well informed or versed on the DR's problems with tax loopholes. If similar to Jamaica, I would guess that these loopholes primarily benefit the rich and savy entrepreneurs. Loopholes are easy to identify and can be 'closed off' with mandates. Tax dodging is a crime in most countries and should be treated as such. Governments usually use a 'knee jerk' and' blanket-like' approach to solve this problem- tax goods that everyone uses and everyone will pay taxes; therefore, no one escapes. I feel that Way Way before they get there, they should first control their own spending.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 2:59 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

Oh o! IRS Atabey's new friend slams his TAX first and scrutinize later policy down!


Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 4:19 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Here is Mangito Poll for IRS Atabey!


“More Taxes in the Dominican Republic”

“Whose fault is it that more taxes will be imposed on the people?

Some blame Leonel Fernández, others the global situation, and some point out as responsible to Hipólito Mejía

The main cause of the current economic crisis, characterized by an enormous fiscal deficit, is corruption, judging by the responses of several citizens.

See the video poll at:

“Mas Impuestos en Republica Dominicana”

¿Por culpa de quién se le impondrán más impuestos al pueblo?

acento.com.do/index.php/news/22362/56/Por-culpa-de-quien-se-le-impondran-mas-impuestos-al-pueblo.html


Written by: chillinout, 10 Oct 2012 5:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic
This place already has pretty high income tax rates for those that earn more than $8000 then add social security, ITBIS and business taxes plus more taxes Only 15% of earners make more than $7700. per year according to tax collection figures..

I don't know why products are so expensive here (shipping containers here is small part) but I hear taxes and corruption adds a large amount. When I can ship stuff here and save 30%-%50 something is wrong. Example a battery charger at Pricesmart was $92.00 the same from Walmart was $39 + $10. to airship. .Even outdoor furniture direct from China was cheaper than here for thesame stuff.

Imagine if the cost of goods went down, consumption goes up, productivity goes up, profits go up and hopefully wages go up, crime goes down, more people will be in the tax system and more taxes will be paid through growth.

It''s a great island but it needs to reduce the poverty rate and needs a properly/better run government with pro growth policies.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 6:49 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



Take that IRS ATABEY!

NO NEW TAXES for your corrupt fellow travelers in the Narco PLD!


Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2012 7:37 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

Danilistas and Lie-onelistas come to blows over More TAXES?

"Una voz divergente y, dicen, algunas trompadas"

7dias.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=127637

Written by: MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier, 10 Oct 2012 8:40 PM
From: United States, NJ
chilliwestaziz:
In full agreement with you.Less spending should be at all DR level. They can't help it it is in their
blood. Look at Spain the mother country spending more than they make.The worst thing was the credit cards. They don't stop using it untill it gets max out. They don't stop to think of the interest taged with it,or what could happen if they lose their jobs tomorrow as it it the case lately among Hispanics.I mentioned these things to make a point . If you can not have your own house in order how do you expect its gvt to be in order?
I appreciate your postings from Jamaica, i can see you show some interest for our country, since it is similar to yours and as Antllians we have lots in common.I was in Jamaica by 8 Rios and all they had was 3 Rios .I guess during the Conquistadores of the 15th century there were 8 so the others 5 dried out in time.
I couldn't get to see much since we were on a cruse ship and time is limitted at every port of call,
I have been to all Is.
Written by: Atabey, 11 Oct 2012 9:12 AM
From: United States, NYC

chilliwestaziz:

All the issues, problems, facing Jamaica are present in DR, just not to the same degree of significance. Tax dodging or evasion has been a national past time in DR; and yes Dready, I fully understand that human nature being what it is this issue will generate creative responses to any pushing up of rates. But as many people have noted, the small developing economies of the world in general have low taxation regimes. Their elites and business communities, as well as populations have generally lived under rules that preclude a well planned and financed development model and structure. Graft and malfeasance are serious problems across the board, and getting people to change their "mind-set" is often a uphill battle.

But if modernity, i.e., developing a rules based society that functions to uplift the vast majority of the nation to middle class status, is to arrive, BOTH attacking the odious side-Graft and UNDERFUNDED side must be secured.
Written by: Atabey, 11 Oct 2012 9:16 AM
From: United States, NYC

DR has never adequately funded its developmental model. That is why she has so many legacy issues or deficits in education, housing, sanitation, health, etc.

Acknowledging the sins, graft and malfeasance, should not preclude a rendering of the underfunded modernity regime.
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2012 9:28 AM
From: United States
Atabey, you are correct in regard to the problems of the DR being present in Jamaica. they are present in every country, to some degree or another. Jamaica is woefully mismanaged, no doubt about it. the difference between the countries is that there is a semblance of a rule of law in Jamaica. maybe that is a part of the British heritage. i remember , some time back, where a government ministerial attache sold some lightbulbs that were a gift from the Cuban government. he was discovered, and there were several rounds of parliamentary hearings, intended to send him to jail. in the DR, such an act would have been nothing more than the topic of a Nuria show. i am not sure how it turned out, but he was made an example of in front of the whole country, and he broke down in tears at the hearings. in the DR, he would have been seen as having done something everyone else does, so why bother try him before a court of his peers.
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2012 11:01 AM
From: United States
World Competitiveness Report...144 countries surveyed

a) DIVERSION OF PUBLIC FUNDS...DR rank 142

b) PUBLIC TRUST IN POLITICIANS...rank.138

c)FAVORITISM IN DECISIONS OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS..rank 144

d)WASTEFULNESS OF GOVERNMENT SPENDING..rank 144

e)RELIABILITY OF POLICE SERVICES..rank..143

f) QUALITY OF PRIMARY EDUCATION..rank..143

does that explain why we need a new tax package?
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2012 12:02 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



"DR has never adequately funded its developmental model."


That's not because of a lack of revenue/TAXES but rather an OVER abundance of CORRUPTION and THEFT!



Written by: chilliwestaziz, 11 Oct 2012 12:33 PM
From: Jamaica
Mr. Rancier, Mr. Josean, Mr. Atabey, and Mr. Dreadlocks:

Pleasant Good Afternoon & Greetings

I am hoping that we, as Haitians, Dominicans, and Jamaicans, can ultimately incorporate some of our good ideas into the actual mechanisms that make our countries more productive.

Jamaica has started something inclusive and interactive. Each district holds town hall meetings on a monthly basis; everyone is invited up to the holding capacity of each town hall ( large meeting room). Here, common citizens are allowed to comment and make suggestions that they feel the government should address. A single report is generated compiling all of this information and these notes become action items and some of these action items become mandates and laws. People now have a proactive venue to provide input more than just a vote every 2 years or every 4 years. Great things are happening now for us because we are closing the gap or the 'old' disconnect between the common citizen and our government.
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2012 12:39 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



Excellent form of direct participatory Democracy I compliment my Jamaican Brothers and Sisters!



Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2012 7:30 PM
From: United States
and we thank you, and compliment you for your never ending struggle to put the truth out there, whether people like it, or not. you might not be popular in certain circles, but keep giving them hell, until they get the point.
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2012 7:42 PM
From: United States
Chilliwestaziz, i sent you a PM. did you get it?
Written by: chilliwestaziz, 12 Oct 2012 9:43 AM
From: Jamaica
Dreadlocks,

My brother, I am not sure what a PM is or how to retrieve it. Please advise.

I look forward to your reply.
Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Oct 2012 10:08 AM
From: United States
when you bring up the field which says 'MY COMMENTED ARTICLES", immediately below you will see a box , that says "messages" just click on that box and your messages will pop up. just answer them like a regular email.
Written by: chilliwestaziz, 12 Oct 2012 12:23 PM
From: Jamaica
Dreadlocks,

Understood.

Much appreciated.
Written by: jasfalon, 13 Oct 2012 6:42 AM
From: United States
The government was shut down to the Dominican people by Trujillo, with US support, and it remains that way today, thanks to ALL political parties and the US. Evil bastards!
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