This is part of the integration of service under one umbrella needed to make the system work properly. Major metropolitan transit authorities worldwide funnel passengers to and from the undergrounds via their own equipment or suppliers under contract. It provides a better unified control of surface traffic flow and can be adjusted to the varying needs of supply of equipment (buses) at stations when there is a high demand of transport due to special events, or time of day ect. It also facilitates the transfer of passengers between stations should any section of the Metro be out of service.

"Opret trains the drivers on how to maintain the Metro’s quality standards"

Is this the same standard of all the other buses in the capital?? best they get the hammers out and smash all the brake and turning lights before they are on the road....

So a multi billion dollar project get connection buses AFTER is starts??? opening for commercial use on January 30, 2009... connecting buses April 23, 2012...oh but they aren't in use yet?
What is easier building a sub surface rail network or buying buses to connect them???

Better late than never....... I guess?

You just have to give them the chance chance to get it right.
Dominican politicians just need some remedial or special ed classes in governorship.

DT, it is obvious you used a stock photo of a motor coach. If one takes notice, its access door is on the left side of the coach going forward. I suspect location is in SE Asia. It is also difficult to confrm what is the make of coach by the trademark logo; as it does not appear to be Hyundai.

You could do better.

I think DT is a one man operation, running out of a garage and likely on a tight budget.

How much does a bus cost?

How much did we pay?

This was not done in the first place because the government, as always, was scared of the dreaded transport unions and their crime boss leaders.

I don't know what deal they made now and how much it cost, but it is a step ahead.

A question comes to mind; were the Hyundai buses purchased through their agent in DR Magna Motors, or is it a remake of the Plan Renove from the Hippo days??

To WaterPolo: Please educate me on the difference in practical terms. Which pockets get the money, competitive bids?

Written by: guillermone, 23 Apr 2012 9:38 AM
From: United States

I think DT is a one man operation, running out of a garage and likely on a tight budget.

guillermo , you just described every small business in the tri state area of new york & new jersey.

I know alot of private security business in 42 st , that run there companies on renting a place for a 8 hours for a small fee, LOL and these are the ass clowns that advertise jobs on newspaper.

Jose anne was the first one riding the bus and metros..
He had a disguise as well.. :)

This why we need an Audit of this whole fiasco: who is telling the truth!




“The PRD accuses the builders of the Metro of overvaluations”

“In a press conference held at the Joaquin Balaguer station of the Santo Domingo Metro, reformist leader Osiris de Leon said that the total over-valuation of the two lines amounts to RD$ 4,831 million on the purchase of 102 cars.”

“He pointed out that the Government paid for each wagon of the first line $ US$2 million 158 thousand 333 dollars to Transport Alscom company on 31 May 2006, which, in his view, contrasts with the amount of US$1 million 135 thousand 265 dollars paid to that same company by the subway in Shanghai, China, built around the same time.”

“The over-valuation by each subway car, he said, was a US$1 million 22 thousand 965 dollars.”


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I hope some one was lazy and that's not a picture of one of the buses....That one looks like a 30 years old Filipino bus....how ever, if it is...no surprise here....hahahaha

I hope some one was lazy and that's not a picture of one of the buses....That one looks like a 30 years old Filipino bus....how ever, if it is...no surprise here....hahahaha

"After 4 years the(sic) finaly(sic) discovered that the HORSE goes before the CART!" josean

josean, are you are alluding to the plan of putting the Metro in service before the use of the motor coaches or you may be alluding to use coaches only? The gov't choice was correct.

Had the government purchased and authorized buses to run the connector routes first without a Metro would be seen as a threat to the transit sindicates who would claim propriety rights to the surface routes. However, having the Metro in place first, suggests the proprietary rights the sindicates may claim as nil.

Adding more coaches without the thought of any subterrainian service, may in the short run alleviate some traffic congestion. However, population growth will overcome the capacity of surface transit corridors to handle the demand of increased passengers per mile. It warrants the use of a subterrainian. Short terms solutions involve reconfiguring traffic flow and restricting traffic.

Jose Anne took a motoconcho to go to the book fair, as an act of protest because he dislike the idea of using a Metro..

:)

No let’s fill the country first with decent schools and provide our children with a world class EDUCATION so then we can get rid of the simplistic Donkey Mentalities like yours!

I think we should follow Josie Ane advide..For the next week, all of us , instead of using Metro are going to use a motoconcho as an act of protest!

And if you would like a real statement , we will use a dunky to go to work!
:)

"josean, are you are alluding to the plan of putting the Metro in service before the use of the motor coaches"


Zooma,

What I am alluding to is there was NO PLAN other than using close to a Billion dollars on a Choo-Choo Train Gimmick to get Lie-onel re-elected.

You would think that in any rational planning process that may have taken place, there would have been some consideration as to how the riders were going to be fed to the METRO?

During that planning process wouldn’t they have conducted environmental impact studies; using the broader definition of environment to mean the social concerns as well including potential hostility to the project by labor unions?

Who planned this anyway dumb Hippo or the "Geniuses" of the PLD?

Josean:

Who is overturning all these rocks?

"social concerns as well including potential hostility to the project by labor unions?"

Josy Anne is such a joker!
back to reality Josie Anne!

I am pretty sure that you are doing mushrooms today.. Be honest!

To Paraphrase Old Winston:

Ms. Vickey: “Sir, you are drunk.”

josean: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.”

Ok Jose Ane..
Conclusion: You were stoned and drunk! :)

And you are Ugly Ms. Vickey , but in the morning I shall be sober!

President Trujillo , His work and the Dominican Republic

BY
LAWRENCE DE BESAULT

"What plans have you for the future?" I asked.

"I am making plans now for the period beginning in
January, 1936. I have two years and eight months more
in my second term as President, and I want to carry
out every possible piece of work in a little more than
two years, so that we shall have time free for the new
election, and so that the new President to be elected can
make and carry out his own plans."

Josean,

The PRD's accusations of inflated metro sets prices, when compared to the alleged prices paid by China's Shangai metro are a little weak. Let me explain, I think they are assuming that our project and Chinas are 100% identical. Basically, that both, China and Dominican Rep. order the same amount of car sets with the same type of functionalities and modifications. It is not like, Alstrom had a couple of hundred car sets already assembled waiting for buyers. These train cars are build "à la carte", and many factors will directly and indirectly will affect the final price. This factors include delivery methods, number of train sets, assembly costs, etc, etc.

In fact, Alstrom have many ventures in China, including the assemble of the "Rolling Stock" models, for the Shanghai Metro, by Changchun Bombardier Railway Vehicles Co Ltd (CBRC) in China which probably contributes to the lower cost.

Dont tell that Jose Anne..!

He loves that metro..

Arcangel96,


Assuming that the points you raise have more merit than those raised by the PRD then this the reason why we need a an independent transparent AUDIT don’t you think?

Wouldn’t that be the best way to put an end to all the speculation?

Josean,

I agree that independent and transparent audits should be part of the normal process for all goverment projects. However, I have the feeling that these allegations are not motivated by the lack of transparency, concrete proof, or the best interest of our society, but politics alone.

Jose Anne..

The best way to put an end of especulation would be if DTdont allow you to talk over here no more..

I guess that we are all fed up of you twisting stories, and talking about the metro , narco things, Leonel and all the crazy stuff that you created in your delusional mind..

Arcangel96,

Audits are done regardless of political considerations made-up or real. They are the normal course in democratic states.

In this project the need for them is flagrantly obvious don't you think?

Ms. Vickey I am proud of you!

Your starting to read other things besides PLD Propaganda and at least for the moment you are not giving yourself 4 PLUSES ++++!

reaD the articule about growing the GDP..You would be very impress..


And yes, we as dominican are VERY proud of the METRO..That moves 400 000 a day!
Leonel is a visionary!

And PLD!Ready for celebration this may 20 th!

"You dont need a perfect goverment, but a practical one.." Arystoteles

Can't we get both?

How about perfect and practical...........or is that too much to ask ?

Yes Guillermo.. , of course..

But we need to be dead first..

The kingdom of our Lord...

Josean,

You are correct. Audits should be done in all Government projects. I think one was already done for the metro by la "Camara de Cuentas".

(Sorry...for the late response hardly anytime to read DT anymore)

Arcangel96,

I would be extremely interested in reviewing that document, please let me know if it’s online or how I could get a hold of it!

I would take a government with principals and integrity over a perfect one any day of the week....

Everyone makes mistakes so no one is perfect, but you can always have integrity and principles ...

Josean,

I looked all over for this report, however I was unsuccessful. A little Googling results in a series of hits, where in 2007 calls for audits are made. Then, in 2009, a little "blurp" in the newspaper "Hoy", reads that an audit is being conducted by the "Camara de Cuentas". To be honest I'm a little disappointed that this information is not more easily available.

Arcangel,

I appreciate the effort and I was not being sarcastic or disrespectful. However to my knowledge some extremely competent people in the field of investigating and analyzing these types of Audits have looked for them also to no avail.

I don't think even the NSA with their super spy computers could find them because frankly I have come to the conclusion the simply don't exist!

But believe me if they do they will be found because there are some very serious folks looking!

Josie Hiede Vivo..

If you want some audits. go to the Contraloria general de La republica, go to the office of Contrallor General de la republica, explain them that you are Josie Hiede Vivo and ask them to give you those audits inmediately!



If you dont don it, leave everybody in peace them!
Ufff! What a jerk!

In know is hard for you to undersatnd Ms. Vickey but in the real world where most people live in except you those Audits don't exist!