Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 8:34 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
“What’s advantageous about this train is that we’ve traced it as the key center of gravity for the Dominican economy’s productivity and development.”
Then why didn't you build this one First?
Written by: zooma, 26 Apr 2012 8:38 AM
From: United States
This project has promise, regardless of the politics.
From: Dominican Republic
Wow Really ?? Am I reading this right?? North South train??
But why not go all the way North? why stop at Santiago? For another billion why not go East West as well, link the SD airport to the city.
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
A train just to the airport may not be economical but at least we should have a bus service from both the Churchill Lincoln areas and from the Malecon , Zona hotel areas that can run at regulartimes to and from the airport .
Written by: RonEvane 
, 26 Apr 2012 9:06 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
Yahoo!...This is a great undertaking for our nation!..It will ease transport on Rt. 1 (one); Will reduce the number of vehicles, hence less use of expensive gasoline and will cut down drastically, traffic fatalities on that stretch. It will make for an safe and enjoyable trip to Santiago and beyond! Will further help develop the Cibao region by encouraging more industries along the line;.. Will facilitate production and export which means more jobs, more affluence and more investments!
I wonder when this is projected to begin construction and where they'll garner and attract the one Billion from "the private sector"...!?
From: Dominican Republic
Ricardolito
East West. Meaning to La Romana, Punta Cana even to Barahona
I see it very strange that the North South would not go to Pueto Plata?? It would reopen it to internal tourism from SD, even live in Santiago work in Pueto Plata or other way around..
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 9:19 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"I wonder when this is projected to begin construction and where they'll garner and attract the one Billion from "the private sector"...!?"
Felix Bautista?
Written by: zooma, 26 Apr 2012 9:32 AM
From: United States
RonEvane,
Kudos for your post, one of few that shows good intellect, not biased by political color.
The US would not have expanded and prospered as well as it did without a good transportation network. It started with the the railroads of the late 19th and early 20th century to include the construction of interstate highway system (Eisenhower's dream and Idea) from 1950's onward that linked all the states. Good transportation networks are a catalyst of commerce and economic growth.
The transportation incentives here, if managed correctly, will stimulate the economy and improve living conditions. But, it has to be done step by step, not with big bites, as the country does not have sufficient resources for a countrywide rail network.
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 9:37 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
EDUCATION first and the rest will follow!
Written by: danny00, 26 Apr 2012 9:42 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
Written by: Ricardolito, 26 Apr 2012 8:54 AM
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
A train just to the airport may not be economical but at least we should have a bus service from both the Churchill Lincoln areas and from the Malecon , Zona hotel areas that can run at regulartimes to and from the airport
GREAT IDEA AND LONG OVER DUE.
MANY TIMES ONE IS AT THE MERCY OF THE TAXI CAB DRIVERS GOING AND FROM THE AIRPORTS. [MANY OF THER CARS THEY USE ARE UNSAFE}
Written by: danny00, 26 Apr 2012 9:45 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
education first and the rest will follow
can u prove this? lol...
u mean one has a education and it will stay with them 4 ever?
maybe past on to ones children? the end result u end up with of crop of some very intelligent people.
Written by: JEM237, 26 Apr 2012 9:58 AM
From: United States, In your mind
Josean,
Why can't it be both education AND infrastructure as well? Can't you put your political BS aside for once?
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 10:09 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
No one said you can't do both but the PRIORITY is EDUCATION!
What is political about that Moradito?
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 10:11 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
EDUCATION, pardon the pun, is the LOCOMOTIVE that has Pulled and Pushed the successful Economic Development Train of humanity since the beginning of time.
To dispute that is like disputing Newton’s Law of Gravity!
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Josean,
You're right, only even intellectuals have to move around.
Also, I'd feel a whole lot safer in the uneducated sat on a train instead of driving jalopies at 45km/h in the left traffic lane with no lights on at night.
Until they get an education, not only academical, but also of correct sense of citizenship.
From: Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Fighting Joseans lunacy .Stop Guillermo the commie thief in 2016
Josi you can't stop the PLD train .....you better get on board or you will be forever washing cars for the PRD.....This project is needed to compete in CAFTA.....Colombia is also doing massive infrastructure projects o assist their exports,......Export or get buried in imports........P.S...Josi does the Hippo need a gardener at his palace in Jarabacoa ?
Written by: xwill7, 26 Apr 2012 11:13 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
dream,
Will they serve beer in one of the carts?
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 11:13 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Corruption derailed the PLD train long ago.
We are just waiting for the 82 Airborne to Airlift them to the Noriega Hilton in Miami any day now!
Written by: xwill7, 26 Apr 2012 11:52 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
josean will not sleep tonight with this news jajaja
From: United States, New York City
Josean's right though..this one should've been built first as it benefits the nation as a whole and not just one metropolitan center.
From: United States
OMG Jodie Hiede Vivo is almost having a heart attack..!
We better buy dunkies and bikes like Cuba to progress..Right Josie Hiede Vivo?
:)
Nothing can stop the progress of D.R and PLD !
Written by: JoséJosé, 26 Apr 2012 1:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic
7 years ago this was projected to cost US$100 million. Then 3 years ago they said 300 million for this train and now 1.8 BILLION!!!!! Plus, you still need a car or truck at each end of the trip. Everywhere else, train tracks are being ripped up and scraped because governments don't have enough money to subsidize them any longer.
From: United States, New York City
" Everywhere else, train tracks are being ripped up and scraped because governments don't have enough money to subsidize them any longer."
That''s simply not true. Freight trains are a very important component of how goods are moved here within the United States. In my city the federal governement is attempting to build a freight line connecting Brooklyn to New Jersey to the tune of billions. It's gone off to several false starts but the impetus is still there and the project will most likely materalize once Jerseys' governor takes his head out of his butt.
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 1:19 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Written by: cibaeño75, 26 Apr 2012 11:56 AM
From: United States, New York City
Josean's right though..this one should've been built first as it benefits the nation as a whole and not just one metropolitan center.
Thank you!!!!! Sir!
Finally someone gets it!!!!
The Capital is part of the republic it is not the WHOLE Country!
Tenía que ser Cibaeño para ser Inteligente, Carajo!
From: Dominican Republic
" Everywhere else, train tracks are being ripped up and scraped because governments don't have enough money to subsidize them any longer."
"That''s simply not true. Freight trains are a very important component of how goods are moved"
And people...
If you look into it most countries are expanding their rail networks... China for one... Australia is looking into high speed rail like Europe and Asia. DR needs to link all it's major cities and move towards a culture of train travel between cites and goods freight trains to remove a lot of trucks from the roads as well..
Far to long has this been needed......
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 1:39 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
stillhere,
You are correct railways for many different reasons will be the mass mover of freight and people in the future once again; it’s kind of back to the future.
Warren Buffet and Berkshire Hathaway have been buying Train companies like mad recently.
From: United States, New York City
Stillhere adds "And people... "
Yes but this is were JoseJose's post holds merit...most passenger train systems are indeed subsidized by local government.
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/23/AR2009082302037.html
Written by: RonEvane , 26 Apr 2012 1:52 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
@ Stillhere.
Also, rail has the added advantage of running on electricity and/or Biodiesel!..
It can save billions on petrol products not bought and wasted. The billions spent today on Chavez's oil can instead be redirected into more infrastructure and improvements of existing ones, (such as education!).
It will also help kill the dreaded truckers' union. They are a menace to society and economy and must be stopped!
The benefits of the railroad are too numerous to be detailed and specified. We need this rail service pronto!...Perhaps we can borrow the money from the education fund??
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 1:57 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"Perhaps we can borrow the money from the education fund??"
Steal you mean, that's a PURPLE GIVEN!
From: United States
Nothing will stop the progress!
PLD is the only way so we can get a better future..
It takes a visionary to do that..
Go ahead Danilo..Your country support your wisdom!
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 2:08 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Has Danilo learned to tie his shoes on his own yet?
Written by: RonEvane , 26 Apr 2012 2:09 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
"Yes but this is were JoseJose's post holds merit...most passenger train systems are indeed subsidized by local government."
Yes, but our govt. also subsidizes diesel and LPG. This has to be bought from outside with real Dollars that can otherwise be retained and spent in DR in the form of workers' salaries and more infrastructure!
The benefits from rail service are too many to note and have direct tangibles and indirect intangibles, that spell out eventual benefits for all!
The railroad business is today, experiencing a renaissance. It will be the mover and shaker of a nation's economy, as it once was... The long-distance trucking industry will disappear and become much more localized. The rising in price and scarcity of the world's oil supply, says so!...
Written by: juanb, 26 Apr 2012 2:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The boys at Odebrecht are rubbing their palms together.
I'd love to know who their connection is.
And if we have advanced this far with the PLD, imagine how much further we could have advanced with good government, good leadership, and honest politicians.
Written by: RonEvane , 26 Apr 2012 3:18 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
We can only dream about the possibilities, Juan!.....But you know, nothing stays the same... The only constant is change, it is said!...And change WILL happen, guaranteed!
Our govt will either get better or worse. I'm hoping for the better with Medina, but appearances can be deceiving. He may turn out to be another Leonel, which in the greater scheme of things, may not necessarily be a bad thing!...But one thing's for sure, with the Hippo, it's "curtains" for us all....guaranteed!
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 4:00 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Oh ooh!
The Purple “the world’s coming to an end if Hippo wins" crowd is not going to like this!
"JP Morgan Chase sees no economic risk after elections may"
"SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican Republic).-financial conglomerate JP Morgan Chase said that after the May 20 elections the risk is low for the Dominican economy, no matter who wins the elections."
"The document, circulating since this morning, takes a "bucket of cold water" to the Government attempt to sell the idea that Hipólito Mejía would be the "back to the uncertain"."
“The document represents the understanding by the business community that manages the sovereign bonds of the country of the great possibilities of triumph by Hipólito Mejía.”
Read the rest with your "Purple Handkerchiefs" in your hands at 7dias.com
25 de Abril del 2012, 10:06 AM
"JP Morgan Chase no ve riesgo económico tras elecciones mayo"
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 5:17 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Al que no le gusta el caldo se le dan dos tasas!
Hipolito Mejia summarizes his proposals
Speaking on the Voto-2012 special TV series with interviews with the candidates on their proposals for the 20 May presidential election, former President Hipolito Mejia said that fighting corruption would be a key priority of his government. He described corruption as a "national disgrace." He said he is prepared for government officials who may err in their decisions, but not for those who take what is not theirs, and said they would have judicial problems because he would "not play around with that." He said he would apply existing laws to fight corruption and would reform others. He said that administrative corruption is a cancer that has metastasized.
continued:
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 5:19 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Mejia said he would fight the wasteful spending that has the Dominican Republic in 142nd place of 142 countries in the wasteful spending category in the World Economic Forum global competitiveness report. He criticized the way in which the government payroll has ballooned, describing it as "a sterile bureaucracy".
He criticized the fact that government resources are used to employ 334 deputy ministers, with 37 vice consuls in New York alone, and that there are vice consuls who do not even live in the areas where they are appointed. He pledged austerity in his new government. Mejia, speaking at the televised talk hosted by the Corripio media group on TeleAntillas (Channel 2) and TeleSistema (Channel 11), said that he would give priority to agriculture, education, public health, production, and making available credit to productive sectors.
continued:
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 5:20 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
He expressed his support for the small and medium-sized business sector, saying that they are the backbone of the country's development, welfare and social and economic stability. He said education was the basic priority of his government, because without education there are no possibilities for progress. He said health would be his second priority, and recalled that it was during his government that the present social security bill was approved. He criticized the fact that the country now depends on imports, for many items that the country should be purchasing from local farmers. "I continue with my ties to the farm and because I am from that sector, I am sure there are extraordinary opportunities in agriculture," he said, as reported in Hoy.
continued:
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 5:24 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
He announced that he would conduct a fiscal reform to improve the efficiency of the state.
Mejia added that he would sign an agreement with the IMF and stressed that construction would be a major area for his government, on the basis that construction stimulates the economy.
DR1
From: United States
Excellent speech Josey Huele Vivo..
They thing that I like the most is the part when Hipolito said he will lelp education and health system and didnt even build a sidewalk, not to mention a hospital or school.
The part when he said he will fight corruption like he did with Pepe Goico, and capt. Quirino when he found out the planes they were delivering cocaine to Miami according to DEA
This guy is a clown!
:)
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 5:37 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Paying much more for metro cars
In a letter addressed to Listin Diario columnist Orlando Gil, engineer Osiris de Leon writes that the Fernandez administration is paying much more for the Alstom metro cars compared to metro companies in China and Singapore. He says that in 2007, the 57 cars of line 1 were purchased for EUR1.6 million each, while the Shanghai metro purchased the same cars from the same companies at the time for EUR850,000 each.
For line 2 he says we are purchasing each metro car for US$3 million, while the Singapore metro purchased each unit for US$1.5 million.
"The country should know that the Shanghai metro paid Alstom EUR210 million and received 246 cars. While the DR has paid the same company EUR194 million and has received only 102 cars without any convincing explanation for the difference for the unbeatable metro," he writes.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 5:38 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
He comments he was also critical of the Nizaito channel during the Balaguer administration and the Parque del Este sports installations during the Hipolito Mejia administration, as mega projects that have failed.
DR1
From: Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Fighting Joseans lunacy .Stop Guillermo the commie thief in 2016
Josi it is all over for the two time loser Hippo and your gang.....find another car to Wash .....now go home and get your shine box.....lol
From: Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Fighting Joseans lunacy .Stop Guillermo the commie thief in 2016
Xman PBR Will be served in the beverage car........Have a nice cold Pabst on me
From: United States, New York City
OMG. Dreamkiller is Goulet. Hide the children LOL
Written by: Trujillo, 26 Apr 2012 6:19 PM
From: Dominican Republic
We did have the ferrocarril central del cibao over a hundred years before the Santo Domingo subway, but Trujillo nationalized it and screwed up. They did want this train before the metro actually.
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 6:33 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
dreamkiller your Super Corrupt Narco PURPLE crowd has bigger problems than Choo-Choo Trains:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well they have called Danilo’s Bluff!
File this on under be careful what you ask for Danilo!
“Citizens against corruption submit criminal complaint against Senator Felix Bautista”
“The complainants cite that the Senator from San Juan Felix Bautista is in violation of the special law number 448-06 regarding acts of Bribery in trade and investments.”
“SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic.-The citizen’s collective group against corruption or C3 took the presidential candidate Danilo Medina at his word, and formally submitted a criminal complaint this Thursday against Felix Bautista, accusing him of "transnational bribery".
continued:
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 6:35 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
“Recently the presidential candidate of the Party of the liberation Dominicana (PLD), Danilo Medina, called for those who have suspicions or evidence against Senator Felix Bautista, ‘ to find the courage" and submitted him to justice.”
Read the rest at Acento.com
"Ciudadanos Contra la Corrupción (C3) someten al senador Félix Bautista"
"En la instancia los querellantes someten al legislador por violación a la ley especial número 448-06 sobre Soborno en el Comercio y la Inversión."
26 April 2012
From: Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Fighting Joseans lunacy .Stop Guillermo the commie thief in 2016
I suppose. ThrPRD is payiing by the word ....so you better cash in while you can......the End is Near
Written by: josean, 26 Apr 2012 6:45 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"the End is Near"
Why you expecting to get Banned again?
From: United States
Josie Hiede vivo..
Isnt this time for you to accept that everyone but you are happy with the metro and even the PRD is preparing for the lost of may 20 th?
Isn't this time that you FINALLY accept your reality?
How long are you going to be lying to yourself?
Written by: xwill7, 26 Apr 2012 11:49 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
dreamk,
Hope there is a toilet built on board!
Written by: allworld, 27 Apr 2012 11:38 AM
From: United States
Any measurement forward,is a step towards progress. Most may not like the results...but we all crawled before we walked!
Written by: josean, 27 Apr 2012 11:49 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"but we all crawled before we walked!"
Then we went to GOOD SCHOOLS to get a good EDUCATION to get the engineering degrees to build METROS, CHOO-CHOO TRAINS and everything else!
Comprende!
From: Dominican Republic
Trujillo..
They did want this train before the metro actually.
So why did we get the metro first???
Is it because the North South train would take 5 year and not be done before the elections??? Even though it would not cost as much as 14km of metro line..... A north South line would service so many more people and freight than any amount of metro in just one city....An asset for the whole country not just SD...
Written by: josean, 27 Apr 2012 5:03 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“PRD files complaint against Diandino Peña for “overvaluing” subway cars”
“According to the complaint against Diandino Peña, the PRD said in total were overpriced by 4 Billon, 832 million pesos, which exceeds the purchases made by China for Shanghai Metro and the metro of Singapore.”
“SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic.-The Dominican Revolutionary Party (PRD) submitted a compliant to the Attorney General of the Republic against the Executive Director of the Office for the reorganization of transport (OPRET) Diandino Peña, for the alleged "overvalued" subway cars for lines 1 and 2 of the Santo Domingo Metro.”
Read the rest at Acento.com
"PRD somete a Diandino Peña por "sobrevaluación" de vagones del Metro "
Written by: allworld, 27 Apr 2012 6:22 PM
From: United States
@josean...this is so true. This is why I donate over two million dollars each year,towards a different charity. I own 2 fortune 500 companies. I live in Westchester County,my house is 20,000 sq.ft. I drive a Bugatti Veyron to work,I own a private jet,a vacation home in Santo Domingo...and too much to brag about,but I don't. I grew up on welfare...so,been there...done that! I help poor people everyday. And you would never know I'm packing that sort of cash,if you saw me on the street,because I wear Reebok Iverson's everyday...And for the record,I grew up in the 70's scratching break beat hip hop records...and to this day,I still do. Look for my library of New York style hip hop to drop...later this year...God Bless,Peace Son!!
Written by: airgordo, 27 Apr 2012 8:24 PM
From: Dominican Republic
ANOTHER stupid MONSTER MEGA PROJECT suitable JUST TO STEAL without limit since the AMOUNTS mentioned are SO BIG...1.8 BILLION DOLLARS is 70,200 MILLION PESOS, do ANY of the people giving Kudos for this Sh!t have an IDEA of the BUDGET for EDUCATION this year on this country??? DOES ANY has the Figure for HEALTH??? i could go ALL DAY LONG with this!!!
SIMPLY STUPID! Stop F@cking people OF DYING from Cholera becasue they have NO WATER, then Built a F@cking space ship if you need, BUT GO IN ORDER!!
P.S. a TRAIN from SANTIAGO to STO, DGO, is doomed to FAILURE, on a BUS you get there on 2.5 Hours, for it to work has to be linking BOTH atlantic Ocean and CAribbean Sea, from PORT to PORT, since Santiago DOES NOT EXPORTS ANYTHING anymore, THERE ARE NO FREE ZONES here and even if they were enough, it is easier to export from PUERTO PLATA.
Written by: airgordo, 27 Apr 2012 8:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Just to EDUCATE people accepting this nonsense, THIS YEAR 2012 the BUDGETS for
EDUCATION = 67,000 MILLION pesos
HEALTH = 46,477 MILLION
PUBLIC WORKS= 37,700 MILLIONs
and you want to tell me that is OK to invest 70,000 MILLION pesos, MORE THAN ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS on ONE single LIMITED PROJECT??? WHAT twisted LOGIC is that????
THESE ARE the NUMBERS, so are not subject to "interpretation", they are what they are...
From: United States, I dont even live inside a house , I haunt one!
Written by: cibaeño75, 26 Apr 2012 1:18 PM
From: United States, New York City
" Everywhere else, train tracks are being ripped up and scraped because governments don't have enough money to subsidize them any longer."
That''s simply not true. Freight trains are a very important component of how goods are moved here within the United States. In my city the federal governement is attempting to build a freight line connecting Brooklyn to New Jersey to the tune of billions. It's gone off to several false starts but the impetus is still there and the project will most likely materalize once Jerseys' governor takes his head out of his butt.
Are you actually implying that our great 400 pound governor of New jersey has his head up his butt ! well you are correct sir . The man is a fat blowhard maid for the rich .
Written by: RonEvane , 27 Apr 2012 10:24 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
Airgordo, perhaps you may not be seeing the whole picture.
Let me explain;
I’m a very old guy who knows, that I don’t know diddlysquat about much. Therefore, before I make any important decisions, I study the situation and, more often than not, seek advice from people who know more about the issue at hand than I do! Then, I formulate a strategy, and go from there.
I tell you this because, a person always, and I mean always, has to spend money to make money, and one needs to know how to do this…Oh sure, you have a toothache and need to see a dentist! But at the same time, you also have a mortgage to pay, and don’t have money for both! What would you do?
Sometimes, sacrifices need to be made for the sake of a better, more prosperous future. It is entirely within reason to assume that a rail line to El Cibao, can help develop all sorts of industry, and further stimulate and accelerate agribusiness by facilitating export, thereby earning the money necessary to..
Written by: RonEvane , 27 Apr 2012 10:29 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
.... to take care of your dental problems.
A person can spend money on immediate needs or save it for future investments…. Again, what would you do?
Written by: josean, 27 Apr 2012 10:33 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Any society that "sacrifices" the EDUCATION of its people is doomed to FAIL!
EDUCATION FIRST then everything else will follow!
Written by: josean, 27 Apr 2012 10:54 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
EDUCATION is the IMMEDIATE National need!
Written by: airgordo, 27 Apr 2012 11:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: RonEvane, 27 Apr 2012 10:24 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
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I would buy the idea that to get Money you have to invest money, fair enough, now I can GUARANTEE YOU 100% that Investing those 1.8 Billion on 3 Mega POWER plants will save MORE money and INMEDIATELY on THREE ways, one will be to get the IMMEDIATE save on the energy cost by simply switching the ENTIRE SYSTEM to a cheaper fuel, Second By FORCING the immediate DRACONIAN CONTRACTS to be re-negociated at once since those people will NOT be needed any longer like now, and THIRD by providing the DOMINICAN INDUSTRY with reliable POWER so they will not have to spend MILLIONS OF PESOS for FUEL on their Own electric generators, that is Just ONE example of a FASTER AND MORE CONSTRUCTIVE WAY to use that money than a Train that will move in a very LIMITED geographic area, a train just goes Up and down between two points, THE ELECTRICITY GOES EVERYWHERE.
Just an example of IMMEDIATE Money generat
Written by: airgordo, 27 Apr 2012 11:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: RonEvane, 27 Apr 2012 10:29 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
.... to take care of your dental problems.
A person can spend money on immediate needs or save it for future investments…. Again, what would you do?
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You can do BOTH, you can invest on areas that will generate Money while Covering at least your basic needs, which should come FIRST, example: Cholera DEAD people don't ride on Trains, CLOSED industries due to extremely high cost on this country, CAN"T generate Freight for such a Train...so FIRST you generate FREIGHT by having INDUSTRIES like once was on santiago, then you look for a way to move it like a train, NOT backwards.
Written by: RonEvane , 28 Apr 2012 1:57 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
".I would buy the idea that to get Money you have to invest money, fair enough, now I can GUARANTEE YOU 100% that Investing those 1.8 Billion on 3 Mega POWER plants will save MORE money and INMEDIATELY"
Totally agree!..We need power plants as much as we need a modern transport system!
But it begs the question, what kind of fuel would you use and how much will it cost?
We can build power plants, but we also need to import lots of coal, natural gas, or diesel.
That is one hell of an expense, unless we generate our own gas or biodiesel, and I don't think we have that capability yet....So, the more feasible and logical next step is to build this rail line. It will realize a more solid, quicker benefit!
Written by: RonEvane , 28 Apr 2012 2:13 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
"due to extremely high cost on this country, CAN"T generate Freight for such a Train...so FIRST you generate FREIGHT by having INDUSTRIES like once was on santiago,"
No, Mr. Airgordo! You have it all backwards.There's no way you can establish industries and generate capital without a ready market and transportation... In order to sell your wares, you'd need to have a way of getting it there... How can you sell anything and make money, if it can't be brought to the marketplace?
Commerce has everything to do with transport....Be it national or international. You need to ship things around the world where people can buy your products! How else can you do business?...Ideally, products and produce need to be sold at a centralized marketplace. We go to the "Mercado" for our groceries. How do you think these things got there?..If not brought to you, you'd have hard time getting them, wouldn't you? ...Am I making sense!?
Written by: josean, 28 Apr 2012 8:34 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Folks this group that is constantly SPAMNG DT, netetrader.com, has contact email listed as ioffershoe@gmail.com.
I think we should all write them an email expressing our displeasure with their advertising tactic.
If they want to advertise fine, just contact DT and pay for it!
From: Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Fighting Joseans lunacy .Stop Guillermo the commie thief in 2016
Yes and by the way how much does the PRD pay you to post the drivel and dreck you post ad nauseum .......and does this mean we won't be hearing from you until the next election as usual
Written by: josean, 28 Apr 2012 10:31 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
A lot less than the retainer you charge Felix Bautista!
Written by: airgordo, 28 Apr 2012 11:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: RonEvane, 28 Apr 2012 1:57 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
Totally agree!..We need power plants as much as we need a modern transport system!
But it begs the question, what kind of fuel would you use and how much will it cost?
We can build power plants, but we also need to import lots of coal, natural gas, or diesel.
That is one hell of an expense, unless we generate our own gas or biodiesel, and I don't think we have that capability yet....So, the more feasible and logical next step is to build this rail line. It will realize a more solid, quicker benefit
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COAL and Natural Gas, those are WAY CHEAPER and even MORE price Stable than the Bunker C or Fuel OIL we are BUYING NOW as i'm writing this, there is even ANOTHER set of proyects that provide the energy for free FOREVER, like HIDRO POWER, with those 1.8 Billion we can Built a combination of Damps along with Coal and natural Gas generation Matrix, that serves ALL dominicans, not just Train peopl
Written by: airgordo, 28 Apr 2012 11:53 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: RonEvane, 28 Apr 2012 2:13 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
No, Mr. Airgordo! You have it all backwards.There's no way you can establish industries and generate capital without a ready market and transportation... In order to sell your wares, you'd need to have a way of getting it there... How can you sell anything and make money, if it can't be brought to the marketplace?
Commerce has everything to do with transport....Be it national or international. You need to ship things around the world where people can buy your products! How else can you do business?...Ideally, products and produce need to be sold at a centralized marketplace. We go to the "Mercado" for our groceries. How do you think these things got there?..If not brought to you, you'd have hard time getting them, wouldn't you? ...Am I making sense!?
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THERE are ways to move the cargo, how do you think it moves TODAY without a train? we need a lot of stuff BEFORE a 1.8 B train
Written by: rokete, 29 Apr 2012 7:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Politics as usual, want to get those votes from the Cibao region. This is the rail that should have been built in the first place, but all the way to Monte Cristi, and to reconstruct the old Sanchez - La Vega, going through San Francisco, Salcedo, Moca, Santiago. Talking about 90% of export from the whole nation and uncountable numbers of passengers. Rebuild Sanchez docks and a mega dock in Manzanillo in Monte Cristi. Exports is what makes a country's people rich and raise out of poverty. Not words and vain promises.
Written by: rokete, 29 Apr 2012 7:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Answering some comments. A nation cannot be developed on education alone, there needs to be infrastructure projects to create jobs and attract so that people can eat, while they educate.
Written by: rokete, 29 Apr 2012 7:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
infrastructure attracts capital investments = jobs = food = education = material prosperity
From: United States
-@rockete.. excellent post. Just excellent
@airgordo
Today in USA and Europe, when you are talking about transportation of big amount of material, importations, distribution, mail,vehicles, animals, etc, etc .. Anything between states that need more than 2 trailers,you are taking about trains..
That's why trains will never go away..
The one that pass by my home, takes 15 minutes to finish passing by at a high speed..
it would be way easier for people to have the proper channels of distribution ,transportation and exportation.
You need it, but you dont know how bad you do..
that's why the yucca , produce , plantain, fruits, etc that we eat abroad come from Costa Rica, Honduras, etc.not from D.R. because we simply don't have the proper channels of FRESH distribution from Cibao Central to the ports of distribution.
it's about efficiency..and more business and progress !
Written by: josean, 29 Apr 2012 9:07 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
No its about 12 years of the PLD giving support to everything but what the Dominican people really need!
Written by: airgordo, 29 Apr 2012 11:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: ohhhvictor, 29 Apr 2012 8:19 PM
From: United States
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1- From the moment you mention USA or EUROPE, you just lost completely the sight, WE ARE ON DR, there is NO Cholera on USA or EUROPE for God's sake, the PRIMARY NEEDS of those people have been RESOLVED A LONG TIME AGO!!! OURS are THERE alive and WELL!!!
2- You eat produce from Costa rica because the Government On Costa Rica CARES about production!!! i'm sure Costa Rica does not have an IMPORT MAFIA like the one that is here on DR, then the national agro-industry CAN'T compete with that, they even have to pay their @ss for stuff like TRACTORS which pay the same duties as a Mercedes-Benz. THAT is what you have to fix!! we import even HABICHUELAS!! that is something that can never be forgiven to this stupid government, even having PETRO CARIBE there, where you can PAY with the agro part of the oil that we owe!!! and THIS people DON'T CARE!
3- ANY port can be reached on an average of 3 hours by truck!!!
Written by: josean, 30 Apr 2012 1:41 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Ms. Vickey you must enjoy being slapped around by airgordo.
Written by: rokete, 30 Apr 2012 1:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
@airgordo I like your denomination. "IMPORT MAFIA" That is exactly what they have in DR, an import mafia supported by the government. But that is not new, this organized crime sector was developed during the old Balaguer government, specially the motor vehicle importers mafia.
The "IMPORT MAFIA" have been strangling the Dominican economy for decades. Like leaches draining any possible growth in the country. They are the ones that have deter the government from investing in railways. Got to make those huge sums in truck imports, tractors and trailer.
Those crooks ought to be all in jail. And the CAFTA nations, should legally force the Dominican government to comply with the the North America trade agreement on tariffs. But that is another issue all together.
As far as comparing DR to U.S. or EUROPE it is a little uneven. However, let us compare to NEW ZELAND, a couple of islands in the middle of no where. They has one of the highest per capita income in the world.
Written by: jhcl2012, 30 Apr 2012 7:55 PM
From: United States, PA - Mas pa'lante, ¡Manos a la obra!
Klk, 'tamos gana'o!
HAMILTON: Danilo 51 Hipólito 44
diariolibre.com/elecciones2012/2012/04/30/i334161_politica-encuesta-hamilton-danilo-hipolito.html
Aquí una fotografía de la de la Campaña 2012 -> "El juego habló"
elnacional.com.do/opiniones/2012/4/28/119619/El-juego-hablo
GALLUP: Danilo 50.6 Hipólito 44.6 (SIN MAQUILLAJE: Danilo 51.7 Hipólito 43.3)
almomento.net/articulo/107684/Danilo-506--Hipolito-446--segun-Gallup
BENENSON: Danilo 50 Hipólito 44 Indecisos 2
elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=283970
ALFONSO-CABRERA: Danilo 50.9 Hipólito 45.8
elcaribe.com.do/2012/04/26/encuesta-509-danilo-458-hipolito
ASISA: Breve historia de las publicaciones de encuestas de @asisaresearch en RD
youtube.com/watch?v=w11x7NtdTW4&feature=youtu.be
RESULTADOS - MAYO 20 DEL 2012
Danilo Medina PLD 55.9.
Hipolito Mejía PRD 37.7
;-)
**** EL CAMBIO SEGURO ****
DANILO PRESIDENTE 2012-2016
Written by: josean, 30 Apr 2012 8:23 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Da-Ni-Lo Piense Ser Presidente
****PA' NAJAYO SEGURO****
DANILO RESIDENTE 2012-2042
From: United States, Orange County, California
What about education?
Written by: josean, 2 May 2012 12:53 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Exactly!
Written by: DomLon, 8 Jun 2012 4:06 PM
From: United Kingdom
"also give thousands of people in the cities Santiago, La Vega and Bonao the opportunity to commute to the capital to work, study or other tasks daily." In theory yes but whi will be able to afford the fares? The poor will opt for the cheapest option (bus) The rich will continue to use their cars - after all SD to Santiago is only 2.5 hours + you need to get to your final destination, Feight train probably is a good idea but the subsidies required for the passenger train will be huge.
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“What’s advantageous about this train is that we’ve traced it as the key center of gravity for the Dominican economy’s productivity and development.”
Then why didn't you build this one First?
This project has promise, regardless of the politics.
Wow Really ?? Am I reading this right?? North South train??
But why not go all the way North? why stop at Santiago? For another billion why not go East West as well, link the SD airport to the city.
Yahoo!...This is a great undertaking for our nation!..It will ease transport on Rt. 1 (one); Will reduce the number of vehicles, hence less use of expensive gasoline and will cut down drastically, traffic fatalities on that stretch. It will make for an safe and enjoyable trip to Santiago and beyond! Will further help develop the Cibao region by encouraging more industries along the line;.. Will facilitate production and export which means more jobs, more affluence and more investments!
I wonder when this is projected to begin construction and where they'll garner and attract the one Billion from "the private sector"...!?
Ricardolito
East West. Meaning to La Romana, Punta Cana even to Barahona
I see it very strange that the North South would not go to Pueto Plata?? It would reopen it to internal tourism from SD, even live in Santiago work in Pueto Plata or other way around..
"I wonder when this is projected to begin construction and where they'll garner and attract the one Billion from "the private sector"...!?"
Felix Bautista?
RonEvane,
Kudos for your post, one of few that shows good intellect, not biased by political color.
The US would not have expanded and prospered as well as it did without a good transportation network. It started with the the railroads of the late 19th and early 20th century to include the construction of interstate highway system (Eisenhower's dream and Idea) from 1950's onward that linked all the states. Good transportation networks are a catalyst of commerce and economic growth.
The transportation incentives here, if managed correctly, will stimulate the economy and improve living conditions. But, it has to be done step by step, not with big bites, as the country does not have sufficient resources for a countrywide rail network.
EDUCATION first and the rest will follow!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
A train just to the airport may not be economical but at least we should have a bus service from both the Churchill Lincoln areas and from the Malecon , Zona hotel areas that can run at regulartimes to and from the airport
GREAT IDEA AND LONG OVER DUE.
MANY TIMES ONE IS AT THE MERCY OF THE TAXI CAB DRIVERS GOING AND FROM THE AIRPORTS. [MANY OF THER CARS THEY USE ARE UNSAFE}
can u prove this? lol...
u mean one has a education and it will stay with them 4 ever?
maybe past on to ones children? the end result u end up with of crop of some very intelligent people.
Why can't it be both education AND infrastructure as well? Can't you put your political BS aside for once?
No one said you can't do both but the PRIORITY is EDUCATION!
What is political about that Moradito?
EDUCATION, pardon the pun, is the LOCOMOTIVE that has Pulled and Pushed the successful Economic Development Train of humanity since the beginning of time.
To dispute that is like disputing Newton’s Law of Gravity!
You're right, only even intellectuals have to move around.
Also, I'd feel a whole lot safer in the uneducated sat on a train instead of driving jalopies at 45km/h in the left traffic lane with no lights on at night.
Until they get an education, not only academical, but also of correct sense of citizenship.
Will they serve beer in one of the carts?
Corruption derailed the PLD train long ago.
We are just waiting for the 82 Airborne to Airlift them to the Noriega Hilton in Miami any day now!
We better buy dunkies and bikes like Cuba to progress..Right Josie Hiede Vivo?
:)
Nothing can stop the progress of D.R and PLD !
That''s simply not true. Freight trains are a very important component of how goods are moved here within the United States. In my city the federal governement is attempting to build a freight line connecting Brooklyn to New Jersey to the tune of billions. It's gone off to several false starts but the impetus is still there and the project will most likely materalize once Jerseys' governor takes his head out of his butt.
Written by: cibaeño75, 26 Apr 2012 11:56 AM
From: United States, New York City
Josean's right though..this one should've been built first as it benefits the nation as a whole and not just one metropolitan center.
Thank you!!!!! Sir!
Finally someone gets it!!!!
The Capital is part of the republic it is not the WHOLE Country!
Tenía que ser Cibaeño para ser Inteligente, Carajo!
" Everywhere else, train tracks are being ripped up and scraped because governments don't have enough money to subsidize them any longer."
"That''s simply not true. Freight trains are a very important component of how goods are moved"
And people...
If you look into it most countries are expanding their rail networks... China for one... Australia is looking into high speed rail like Europe and Asia. DR needs to link all it's major cities and move towards a culture of train travel between cites and goods freight trains to remove a lot of trucks from the roads as well..
Far to long has this been needed......
stillhere,
You are correct railways for many different reasons will be the mass mover of freight and people in the future once again; it’s kind of back to the future.
Warren Buffet and Berkshire Hathaway have been buying Train companies like mad recently.
Yes but this is were JoseJose's post holds merit...most passenger train systems are indeed subsidized by local government.
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/23/AR2009082302037.html
@ Stillhere.
Also, rail has the added advantage of running on electricity and/or Biodiesel!..
It can save billions on petrol products not bought and wasted. The billions spent today on Chavez's oil can instead be redirected into more infrastructure and improvements of existing ones, (such as education!).
It will also help kill the dreaded truckers' union. They are a menace to society and economy and must be stopped!
The benefits of the railroad are too numerous to be detailed and specified. We need this rail service pronto!...Perhaps we can borrow the money from the education fund??
"Perhaps we can borrow the money from the education fund??"
Steal you mean, that's a PURPLE GIVEN!
Nothing will stop the progress!
PLD is the only way so we can get a better future..
It takes a visionary to do that..
Go ahead Danilo..Your country support your wisdom!
Has Danilo learned to tie his shoes on his own yet?
"Yes but this is were JoseJose's post holds merit...most passenger train systems are indeed subsidized by local government."
Yes, but our govt. also subsidizes diesel and LPG. This has to be bought from outside with real Dollars that can otherwise be retained and spent in DR in the form of workers' salaries and more infrastructure!
The benefits from rail service are too many to note and have direct tangibles and indirect intangibles, that spell out eventual benefits for all!
The railroad business is today, experiencing a renaissance. It will be the mover and shaker of a nation's economy, as it once was... The long-distance trucking industry will disappear and become much more localized. The rising in price and scarcity of the world's oil supply, says so!...
The boys at Odebrecht are rubbing their palms together.
I'd love to know who their connection is.
And if we have advanced this far with the PLD, imagine how much further we could have advanced with good government, good leadership, and honest politicians.
We can only dream about the possibilities, Juan!.....But you know, nothing stays the same... The only constant is change, it is said!...And change WILL happen, guaranteed!
Our govt will either get better or worse. I'm hoping for the better with Medina, but appearances can be deceiving. He may turn out to be another Leonel, which in the greater scheme of things, may not necessarily be a bad thing!...But one thing's for sure, with the Hippo, it's "curtains" for us all....guaranteed!
Oh ooh!
The Purple “the world’s coming to an end if Hippo wins" crowd is not going to like this!
"JP Morgan Chase sees no economic risk after elections may"
"SANTO DOMINGO (Dominican Republic).-financial conglomerate JP Morgan Chase said that after the May 20 elections the risk is low for the Dominican economy, no matter who wins the elections."
"The document, circulating since this morning, takes a "bucket of cold water" to the Government attempt to sell the idea that Hipólito Mejía would be the "back to the uncertain"."
“The document represents the understanding by the business community that manages the sovereign bonds of the country of the great possibilities of triumph by Hipólito Mejía.”
Read the rest with your "Purple Handkerchiefs" in your hands at 7dias.com
25 de Abril del 2012, 10:06 AM
"JP Morgan Chase no ve riesgo económico tras elecciones mayo"
Al que no le gusta el caldo se le dan dos tasas!
Hipolito Mejia summarizes his proposals
Speaking on the Voto-2012 special TV series with interviews with the candidates on their proposals for the 20 May presidential election, former President Hipolito Mejia said that fighting corruption would be a key priority of his government. He described corruption as a "national disgrace." He said he is prepared for government officials who may err in their decisions, but not for those who take what is not theirs, and said they would have judicial problems because he would "not play around with that." He said he would apply existing laws to fight corruption and would reform others. He said that administrative corruption is a cancer that has metastasized.
continued:
Mejia said he would fight the wasteful spending that has the Dominican Republic in 142nd place of 142 countries in the wasteful spending category in the World Economic Forum global competitiveness report. He criticized the way in which the government payroll has ballooned, describing it as "a sterile bureaucracy".
He criticized the fact that government resources are used to employ 334 deputy ministers, with 37 vice consuls in New York alone, and that there are vice consuls who do not even live in the areas where they are appointed. He pledged austerity in his new government. Mejia, speaking at the televised talk hosted by the Corripio media group on TeleAntillas (Channel 2) and TeleSistema (Channel 11), said that he would give priority to agriculture, education, public health, production, and making available credit to productive sectors.
continued:
He expressed his support for the small and medium-sized business sector, saying that they are the backbone of the country's development, welfare and social and economic stability. He said education was the basic priority of his government, because without education there are no possibilities for progress. He said health would be his second priority, and recalled that it was during his government that the present social security bill was approved. He criticized the fact that the country now depends on imports, for many items that the country should be purchasing from local farmers. "I continue with my ties to the farm and because I am from that sector, I am sure there are extraordinary opportunities in agriculture," he said, as reported in Hoy.
continued:
He announced that he would conduct a fiscal reform to improve the efficiency of the state.
Mejia added that he would sign an agreement with the IMF and stressed that construction would be a major area for his government, on the basis that construction stimulates the economy.
DR1
They thing that I like the most is the part when Hipolito said he will lelp education and health system and didnt even build a sidewalk, not to mention a hospital or school.
The part when he said he will fight corruption like he did with Pepe Goico, and capt. Quirino when he found out the planes they were delivering cocaine to Miami according to DEA
This guy is a clown!
:)
Paying much more for metro cars
In a letter addressed to Listin Diario columnist Orlando Gil, engineer Osiris de Leon writes that the Fernandez administration is paying much more for the Alstom metro cars compared to metro companies in China and Singapore. He says that in 2007, the 57 cars of line 1 were purchased for EUR1.6 million each, while the Shanghai metro purchased the same cars from the same companies at the time for EUR850,000 each.
For line 2 he says we are purchasing each metro car for US$3 million, while the Singapore metro purchased each unit for US$1.5 million.
"The country should know that the Shanghai metro paid Alstom EUR210 million and received 246 cars. While the DR has paid the same company EUR194 million and has received only 102 cars without any convincing explanation for the difference for the unbeatable metro," he writes.
Continued:
He comments he was also critical of the Nizaito channel during the Balaguer administration and the Parque del Este sports installations during the Hipolito Mejia administration, as mega projects that have failed.
DR1
dreamkiller your Super Corrupt Narco PURPLE crowd has bigger problems than Choo-Choo Trains:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well they have called Danilo’s Bluff!
File this on under be careful what you ask for Danilo!
“Citizens against corruption submit criminal complaint against Senator Felix Bautista”
“The complainants cite that the Senator from San Juan Felix Bautista is in violation of the special law number 448-06 regarding acts of Bribery in trade and investments.”
“SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic.-The citizen’s collective group against corruption or C3 took the presidential candidate Danilo Medina at his word, and formally submitted a criminal complaint this Thursday against Felix Bautista, accusing him of "transnational bribery".
continued:
“Recently the presidential candidate of the Party of the liberation Dominicana (PLD), Danilo Medina, called for those who have suspicions or evidence against Senator Felix Bautista, ‘ to find the courage" and submitted him to justice.”
Read the rest at Acento.com
"Ciudadanos Contra la Corrupción (C3) someten al senador Félix Bautista"
"En la instancia los querellantes someten al legislador por violación a la ley especial número 448-06 sobre Soborno en el Comercio y la Inversión."
26 April 2012
"the End is Near"
Why you expecting to get Banned again?
Josie Hiede vivo..
Isnt this time for you to accept that everyone but you are happy with the metro and even the PRD is preparing for the lost of may 20 th?
Isn't this time that you FINALLY accept your reality?
How long are you going to be lying to yourself?
Hope there is a toilet built on board!
"but we all crawled before we walked!"
Then we went to GOOD SCHOOLS to get a good EDUCATION to get the engineering degrees to build METROS, CHOO-CHOO TRAINS and everything else!
Comprende!
They did want this train before the metro actually.
So why did we get the metro first???
Is it because the North South train would take 5 year and not be done before the elections??? Even though it would not cost as much as 14km of metro line..... A north South line would service so many more people and freight than any amount of metro in just one city....An asset for the whole country not just SD...
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“PRD files complaint against Diandino Peña for “overvaluing” subway cars”
“According to the complaint against Diandino Peña, the PRD said in total were overpriced by 4 Billon, 832 million pesos, which exceeds the purchases made by China for Shanghai Metro and the metro of Singapore.”
“SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic.-The Dominican Revolutionary Party (PRD) submitted a compliant to the Attorney General of the Republic against the Executive Director of the Office for the reorganization of transport (OPRET) Diandino Peña, for the alleged "overvalued" subway cars for lines 1 and 2 of the Santo Domingo Metro.”
Read the rest at Acento.com
"PRD somete a Diandino Peña por "sobrevaluación" de vagones del Metro "
SIMPLY STUPID! Stop F@cking people OF DYING from Cholera becasue they have NO WATER, then Built a F@cking space ship if you need, BUT GO IN ORDER!!
P.S. a TRAIN from SANTIAGO to STO, DGO, is doomed to FAILURE, on a BUS you get there on 2.5 Hours, for it to work has to be linking BOTH atlantic Ocean and CAribbean Sea, from PORT to PORT, since Santiago DOES NOT EXPORTS ANYTHING anymore, THERE ARE NO FREE ZONES here and even if they were enough, it is easier to export from PUERTO PLATA.
EDUCATION = 67,000 MILLION pesos
HEALTH = 46,477 MILLION
PUBLIC WORKS= 37,700 MILLIONs
and you want to tell me that is OK to invest 70,000 MILLION pesos, MORE THAN ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS on ONE single LIMITED PROJECT??? WHAT twisted LOGIC is that????
THESE ARE the NUMBERS, so are not subject to "interpretation", they are what they are...
From: United States, New York City
" Everywhere else, train tracks are being ripped up and scraped because governments don't have enough money to subsidize them any longer."
That''s simply not true. Freight trains are a very important component of how goods are moved here within the United States. In my city the federal governement is attempting to build a freight line connecting Brooklyn to New Jersey to the tune of billions. It's gone off to several false starts but the impetus is still there and the project will most likely materalize once Jerseys' governor takes his head out of his butt.
Are you actually implying that our great 400 pound governor of New jersey has his head up his butt ! well you are correct sir . The man is a fat blowhard maid for the rich .
Airgordo, perhaps you may not be seeing the whole picture.
Let me explain;
I’m a very old guy who knows, that I don’t know diddlysquat about much. Therefore, before I make any important decisions, I study the situation and, more often than not, seek advice from people who know more about the issue at hand than I do! Then, I formulate a strategy, and go from there.
I tell you this because, a person always, and I mean always, has to spend money to make money, and one needs to know how to do this…Oh sure, you have a toothache and need to see a dentist! But at the same time, you also have a mortgage to pay, and don’t have money for both! What would you do?
Sometimes, sacrifices need to be made for the sake of a better, more prosperous future. It is entirely within reason to assume that a rail line to El Cibao, can help develop all sorts of industry, and further stimulate and accelerate agribusiness by facilitating export, thereby earning the money necessary to..
.... to take care of your dental problems.
A person can spend money on immediate needs or save it for future investments…. Again, what would you do?
Any society that "sacrifices" the EDUCATION of its people is doomed to FAIL!
EDUCATION FIRST then everything else will follow!
EDUCATION is the IMMEDIATE National need!
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
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I would buy the idea that to get Money you have to invest money, fair enough, now I can GUARANTEE YOU 100% that Investing those 1.8 Billion on 3 Mega POWER plants will save MORE money and INMEDIATELY on THREE ways, one will be to get the IMMEDIATE save on the energy cost by simply switching the ENTIRE SYSTEM to a cheaper fuel, Second By FORCING the immediate DRACONIAN CONTRACTS to be re-negociated at once since those people will NOT be needed any longer like now, and THIRD by providing the DOMINICAN INDUSTRY with reliable POWER so they will not have to spend MILLIONS OF PESOS for FUEL on their Own electric generators, that is Just ONE example of a FASTER AND MORE CONSTRUCTIVE WAY to use that money than a Train that will move in a very LIMITED geographic area, a train just goes Up and down between two points, THE ELECTRICITY GOES EVERYWHERE.
Just an example of IMMEDIATE Money generat
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
.... to take care of your dental problems.
A person can spend money on immediate needs or save it for future investments…. Again, what would you do?
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You can do BOTH, you can invest on areas that will generate Money while Covering at least your basic needs, which should come FIRST, example: Cholera DEAD people don't ride on Trains, CLOSED industries due to extremely high cost on this country, CAN"T generate Freight for such a Train...so FIRST you generate FREIGHT by having INDUSTRIES like once was on santiago, then you look for a way to move it like a train, NOT backwards.
".I would buy the idea that to get Money you have to invest money, fair enough, now I can GUARANTEE YOU 100% that Investing those 1.8 Billion on 3 Mega POWER plants will save MORE money and INMEDIATELY"
Totally agree!..We need power plants as much as we need a modern transport system!
But it begs the question, what kind of fuel would you use and how much will it cost?
We can build power plants, but we also need to import lots of coal, natural gas, or diesel.
That is one hell of an expense, unless we generate our own gas or biodiesel, and I don't think we have that capability yet....So, the more feasible and logical next step is to build this rail line. It will realize a more solid, quicker benefit!
"due to extremely high cost on this country, CAN"T generate Freight for such a Train...so FIRST you generate FREIGHT by having INDUSTRIES like once was on santiago,"
No, Mr. Airgordo! You have it all backwards.There's no way you can establish industries and generate capital without a ready market and transportation... In order to sell your wares, you'd need to have a way of getting it there... How can you sell anything and make money, if it can't be brought to the marketplace?
Commerce has everything to do with transport....Be it national or international. You need to ship things around the world where people can buy your products! How else can you do business?...Ideally, products and produce need to be sold at a centralized marketplace. We go to the "Mercado" for our groceries. How do you think these things got there?..If not brought to you, you'd have hard time getting them, wouldn't you? ...Am I making sense!?
Folks this group that is constantly SPAMNG DT, netetrader.com, has contact email listed as ioffershoe@gmail.com.
I think we should all write them an email expressing our displeasure with their advertising tactic.
If they want to advertise fine, just contact DT and pay for it!
A lot less than the retainer you charge Felix Bautista!
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
Totally agree!..We need power plants as much as we need a modern transport system!
But it begs the question, what kind of fuel would you use and how much will it cost?
We can build power plants, but we also need to import lots of coal, natural gas, or diesel.
That is one hell of an expense, unless we generate our own gas or biodiesel, and I don't think we have that capability yet....So, the more feasible and logical next step is to build this rail line. It will realize a more solid, quicker benefit
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COAL and Natural Gas, those are WAY CHEAPER and even MORE price Stable than the Bunker C or Fuel OIL we are BUYING NOW as i'm writing this, there is even ANOTHER set of proyects that provide the energy for free FOREVER, like HIDRO POWER, with those 1.8 Billion we can Built a combination of Damps along with Coal and natural Gas generation Matrix, that serves ALL dominicans, not just Train peopl
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
No, Mr. Airgordo! You have it all backwards.There's no way you can establish industries and generate capital without a ready market and transportation... In order to sell your wares, you'd need to have a way of getting it there... How can you sell anything and make money, if it can't be brought to the marketplace?
Commerce has everything to do with transport....Be it national or international. You need to ship things around the world where people can buy your products! How else can you do business?...Ideally, products and produce need to be sold at a centralized marketplace. We go to the "Mercado" for our groceries. How do you think these things got there?..If not brought to you, you'd have hard time getting them, wouldn't you? ...Am I making sense!?
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THERE are ways to move the cargo, how do you think it moves TODAY without a train? we need a lot of stuff BEFORE a 1.8 B train
@airgordo
Today in USA and Europe, when you are talking about transportation of big amount of material, importations, distribution, mail,vehicles, animals, etc, etc .. Anything between states that need more than 2 trailers,you are taking about trains..
That's why trains will never go away..
The one that pass by my home, takes 15 minutes to finish passing by at a high speed..
it would be way easier for people to have the proper channels of distribution ,transportation and exportation.
You need it, but you dont know how bad you do..
that's why the yucca , produce , plantain, fruits, etc that we eat abroad come from Costa Rica, Honduras, etc.not from D.R. because we simply don't have the proper channels of FRESH distribution from Cibao Central to the ports of distribution.
it's about efficiency..and more business and progress !
No its about 12 years of the PLD giving support to everything but what the Dominican people really need!
From: United States
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1- From the moment you mention USA or EUROPE, you just lost completely the sight, WE ARE ON DR, there is NO Cholera on USA or EUROPE for God's sake, the PRIMARY NEEDS of those people have been RESOLVED A LONG TIME AGO!!! OURS are THERE alive and WELL!!!
2- You eat produce from Costa rica because the Government On Costa Rica CARES about production!!! i'm sure Costa Rica does not have an IMPORT MAFIA like the one that is here on DR, then the national agro-industry CAN'T compete with that, they even have to pay their @ss for stuff like TRACTORS which pay the same duties as a Mercedes-Benz. THAT is what you have to fix!! we import even HABICHUELAS!! that is something that can never be forgiven to this stupid government, even having PETRO CARIBE there, where you can PAY with the agro part of the oil that we owe!!! and THIS people DON'T CARE!
3- ANY port can be reached on an average of 3 hours by truck!!!
Ms. Vickey you must enjoy being slapped around by airgordo.
The "IMPORT MAFIA" have been strangling the Dominican economy for decades. Like leaches draining any possible growth in the country. They are the ones that have deter the government from investing in railways. Got to make those huge sums in truck imports, tractors and trailer.
Those crooks ought to be all in jail. And the CAFTA nations, should legally force the Dominican government to comply with the the North America trade agreement on tariffs. But that is another issue all together.
As far as comparing DR to U.S. or EUROPE it is a little uneven. However, let us compare to NEW ZELAND, a couple of islands in the middle of no where. They has one of the highest per capita income in the world.
HAMILTON: Danilo 51 Hipólito 44
diariolibre.com/elecciones2012/2012/04/30/i334161_politica-encuesta-hamilton-danilo-hipolito.html
Aquí una fotografía de la de la Campaña 2012 -> "El juego habló"
elnacional.com.do/opiniones/2012/4/28/119619/El-juego-hablo
GALLUP: Danilo 50.6 Hipólito 44.6 (SIN MAQUILLAJE: Danilo 51.7 Hipólito 43.3)
almomento.net/articulo/107684/Danilo-506--Hipolito-446--segun-Gallup
BENENSON: Danilo 50 Hipólito 44 Indecisos 2
elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=283970
ALFONSO-CABRERA: Danilo 50.9 Hipólito 45.8
elcaribe.com.do/2012/04/26/encuesta-509-danilo-458-hipolito
ASISA: Breve historia de las publicaciones de encuestas de @asisaresearch en RD
youtube.com/watch?v=w11x7NtdTW4&feature=youtu.be
RESULTADOS - MAYO 20 DEL 2012
Danilo Medina PLD 55.9.
Hipolito Mejía PRD 37.7
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Exactly!