Brasilia.- Brazil president Dilma Rousseff said Monday her Administration will help president Danilo Medina decisively once he takes office on August 16 to seek solutions to the energy problem, and immediately instructed her assistants to work quickly to identify models of cooperation that will enable the Dominican authorities to resolve the sector’s crisis.
Rousseff spoke during a meeting with Medina at Planalto Palace, where the Dominican president elect requested Brazil’s assistance to definitively resolve the decades old difficulties in the energy supply including the construction of two plants that produce 300 megawatts each."Brazil is going to help the President of the Dominican Republic very decisively to seek a solution to its energy problem."
Medina called "very fruitful" yesterday’s meeting with Rousseff, who reiterated her country's cooperation so Medina’s Administration vcan definitively resolve the energy problem.
No specific figures on the cost of the plants were provided.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
."Brazil is going to help the President of the Dominican Republic very decisively to seek a solution to its energy problem."....
We already know the problem and its the administration. First it was someone with education that took advantage of the less educated who thought he was on their side and now we will have someone taking position with no brains, the same as a janitor taking on a position in the AP(Accounts Payable) Department.
STOP STEALING MONEY AND WE CAN GET AHEAD!!!!!
Written by: BASTA, 10 Jul 2012 8:54 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all
: RobertoJose== 5*****s
From: United States
@Roberto Jose and basta... Stop the gloom and doom!
Everytime we hear great news, , you are ALWAYS giving depressive results...
I am done with your pessimism..
This is not B.S., Quirino, fraud of Banco central or the yuca de Gurabo story..This is PLD working baby!
Not even in the chair..And you can already see the results!
......That's why we have the most dynamic secreatry of state ever as a president.. Thanks PLD !
From: United States
Wondering what kind of plants they are talking about!!!
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Damn Vik, I didn't know you cared...
I bet you also think the population as cattle.
Why do you think the dominican republics electrical system is in an embarrassing situation after 12yr ?
Why do we still owe a debt of 1.2 billion US for an original balance of 500 million for the past 3yrs ?
Why are you so satisfied with the performance of a failed administration that only gets hand-outs and no follow throughs ?
Yes, you're right..... lets thank the PLD for those uneducated government officials it hires with no experience to administer this lawless cash cow. Lets not forget to thank them for pushing to get a zone designated for prostitutes and not emphasizing on education for the youngins.. Lets truly not forget to thank them for allowing figueroa agosto 10yrs to bang-out the wives and daughters of the countries elites and generals while selling tons of cocaine.
THANKS PLD, you're doing a wonderful job........PSYCH!!!!
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 10:09 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
The Colony of Brazil; Dominican Republic!
From: United States
@ roberto Jose
Ok, let's talk about it..
You are putting the blame in PLD performance... So do you really think that when HIpo was in power situation got better? Let me refresh your memory
Do you remember that we had a closed access international credit with PRD and we couldnt buy gas?
Dont you remember the 48 hours of financial black out? What happens when we bought Edenorte and Edesur?
Do you remember The little "war" with Chavez that we had to buy gas twice the normal price to Trinidad tobago?
Do you remember that electricity generation on 2004 was less that 50 % in the whole D.R. for the first time in 50 years?
Did you know that ANYWHERE in 2004 there wasnt a single a 24 hours circuit in D.R.?
Dont you think that Danilo is trying to do an outstanding job trying to work and looking for a solution of a problem EVEN before getting to the chair?
Or you have a terrible memory, or you are a hypocrite or you & Joseano are the PSYCHOS over here..
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
What don't you understand ?
When the PRD is in office I'll talk about them, till then the PLD is at the helm and still nothing has been straightened out. I'm sure you forgot the pact that Leonel signed with the PRD before taking office. They always do that, as if to secretly protect each other and look the other way just like what you are doing.
Remember, I'm the one that feeds alcohol to the wannabees and feed them sweet nothing to get them to start talking in DR, I got dirt on the PRD as well.
Written by: generoso, 10 Jul 2012 10:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
Headline is misleading to say the least. Brazil is studying "investing" in power generation in the DR, this is pretty far from making a firm commitment.
Anyway even if it jells, this will take a few years to become a reality, by the time all the dots are connected.
Danilo is trying his best to bring some good news after his trips to Colombia and Brazil, and of course is appealing to our good friends and business, investments partners.
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 10:39 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
I thought Danilo said He was Going to Do "What was Never Done Before," yet so far all his moves are from Lie-onel Fernandez's Narco-Corrupt Playbook!
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Jul 2012 10:56 AM
From: United States
The power problem in the DR has a long and complicated history but there is one fact that cannot be disputed.
It was started and institutionalized by the P.R.D.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Damn Ant, you're right, BUTT, what have they done to correct it .
From: United States
@Roberto Jose..
Nothing have been straighten out ?
Do you think that we still in a situation that we got less than 50 % of electricity?
Now we have 102 circuits of 24 hours electricity..The biggest problem to extend it is because of the fraud situation in a lot of neighborhoods and communities.
And we keep improving, and we will.And the elected president is in Brazil , working for you already , taking care of everything..
Otherwise , we would have a president making bad jobs in Gurabo..
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 11:25 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"because of the fraud situation in"...............
The PURPLE National Palace for the last 12 out of 16 years including “The Purple Whale” Euclides Gutiérrez Félix, a founder of the PLD and a member of its Billionaire Club aka the Political Committee, who owes a 3,000,000 million pesos light bill!
From: Dominican Republic
ohvi... a very easy question for you..
If things are so good and LF has done such a great job, why are they asking a foreign government to build this government new power stations? Should they not be able to do it themselves?
Shouldn't they be able to build and run new power stations without out side assistance?
Surely these hard working brainiacs could run it all on their own... right??
With 12 of 16 years why are there still aid organizations and NOG's working here if things are going as well as you say they are? Look beyond the past of Hippo and talk about the here and now....
Written by: anthonyC, 10 Jul 2012 11:32 AM
From: United States
Written by: RobertoJose,
"Damn Ant, you're right, BUTT, what have they done to correct it ."
Not a damn thing.
Why should they?
It is such a cash cow for bribes, corruption and cronyism I don't ever see the D.R.'s energy problems being solved under the current system of government.
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 11:42 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"I don't ever see the D.R.'s energy problems being solved under the current system of government."
Please suggest you prescription for the system of government that would be able to solve it!
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
We are not just talking about SDQ, Vik.... 102 circuits of 24hr electricity and not enough meters to go around only leads to more monies not accounted for and country bleeds to death.
Elected president in brazil working for me ? Like the countless trips made by Lee-Flee, nothing will come of it.
BTW, if DR doesn't get its act together, you think paying twice for oil back then was bad. Wait till chavez lose patience with the tardiness of the future and current government. Lets hope chavez doesn't reconcile with his racist side and partner up with haiti. That will be a wake-up call to all.
From: United States
SAYS STILLHERE
Written by: stillhere, 10 Jul 2012 11:25 AM
From: Dominican Republic
ohvi... a very easy question for you..
even if the question is easy enough for an ape to answer, victor cannot. evolution dealt him a very harsh hand.
From: United States
stillhere, the problem with all these know everything morons posting here is that they are a little smarter than their chopo friends at the colmado,and the cockfight arena. they impress them by being able to count past ten. they believe that the rest of the world is equally academically deficient, and so they come here, trying to get the same results, by passing themselves off as people who know things. the minute that they are exposed as cretins and imbeciles, they instinctively drag the dialogue down to the gutter, which is their natural comfort level. so, the ad hominems, and the juvenile foolishness starts, giving them a chance to camouflage their ignorance, and stupidity. it never fails, and it is like they all learn from the same playbook.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
It is such a cash cow for bribes, corruption and cronyism I don't ever see the D.R.'s energy problems being solved under the current system of government......
Whoa, whoa Ant-knee. Its too much for you to take in.
Written by: abc200, 10 Jul 2012 2:43 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
What a waste. See electrical energy wasted everywhere.
Better to spend the money on a plant to manufacture low cost high efficiency refrigeratoirs etc. and close down businesses that consume too much energy.
S.
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
What is the cost of converting some power stations to coal fired power ?? Colombia has coal and it is much cheaper than oil and these days you can have environmental friendly coal fired plants
From: Dominican Republic
"environmental friendly coal fired plants"
That's an oxymoron and has had vast amounts of money from all over the world thrown at it to no real result...
Why would "environmental friendly coal fired plants" spend just last year 8 million on lobbying in just the US to keep getting funding... ???? Surely something working so well wouldn't need to do that?
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 9:42 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
In other REAL electrical News:
"The Calls to Canonize Celso Marranzini may have been little premature!"
Will the blackouts be back?
24/7 power for neighborhoods has almost been the norm during the Public Electricity Corporation (CDEEE) administration under Celso Marranzini, but news reports are now suggesting that blackouts may on their way back due to financial constraints. So-called 24-hour sectors have already been suffering blackouts, which had been a thing of the past for months.
A report from the CDEEE published in Hoy says that the deficit for the first four months of the year is US$417.3 million. Power distributors registered a deficit of US$307 million, while the CDEEE is showing a deficit of US$110.3 million for the US$417.30 million.
"The year end deficit will be US$1.25 billion, with US$921 million for the distributors and US$331 million for the CDEEE, if we project the present deficit accumulated in the first quarter of 2012," says the report.
cont
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 9:44 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Losses for the first four months - the difference between energy billed and that purchased from the generators - averaged 37% for EdeSur, EdeNorte and EdeEste power distributors.
Hoy reports there is the concern that the requested US$500 million in sovereign bonds placement to cover the electricity sector's financial gap will not be enough. The CDEEE reports this is because of the inefficiency, management issues and excess employment at the power distribution companies and the CDEEE itself.
The report specifies that the government will need to increase the subsidy otherwise the frequency and intensity of blackouts will increase.
President-elect Danilo Medina recently visited Colombia and Brazil to hold talks to discuss imports of natural gas and coal used in electricity generation, construction of new generators and other electricity issues.
hoy.com.do/el-pais/2012/7/7/435999/Continua-imparable-deficit-de-liquidez-registra-CDEEE
DR1
Written by: josean, 10 Jul 2012 9:46 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
It looks like 24/7 Election Gimmick is over!
From: United States, NJ
ohhhvictor:
I know what a circuit is ,but am not too familiar with a 102 circuit 24/7,as use in DR . Please
explain.
From: United States, NJ
Ricardito:
Converting existing PP to coal is not practical and too expensive ,once pulverizers are thrown in.
From: United States, NJ
I think finally we are going to get some result with Brazil coming in the picture,been they have constructed the Metro. It shows you they have the capacity to build power plants as well.
The main thing is to find a financier to lend $ for the power plant,not the know how.Going back to
coal is like going back 100 yrs in generation. We have solar and wind power that need no supplier
DR has no fossil fuel so the other alternative is those two forementioned unless they want build
more dams. All those are clean energy with out having to import fossil fuel.
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
There is a project of North Central Energy NEC, which does not require any kind of warranty, or investment by the Dominican state to be installed in Manzanillo, which was blocked NOT KNOW WHY. Although we imagine, it is based on natural gas and competitive price, it is expected that this new administration in the state, we see that she intends to resolve a serious and responsible energy problem, which is efficient generation INSTALLING NEW, THING There has been, consider this American company and give support to be installed, which will be in operation according saw 14 to 18 months for the first phase of 150 megawatts and 150 megawatts more than the rest in 30 months. of North Central Energy NEC, which does not require any kind of warranty, or investment by the Dominican state to be installed in Manzanillo, which was blocked NOT KNOW WHY. Although we imagine, it is based on natural gas and competitive price, it is expected that new administration .AND DO WHAT EVER WAS
From: United States, NJ
ohhhvictor:
You still did not answer my question as to the 102 circuits 24/7 in DR terminology. I know what a circuit is in electrical terminology ,but not as used by you. Please explain.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Thelmo, he wont answer. I hope that he does, because 102 opened / closed circuits 24hrs a day and 7 days a week don't mean anything to me if there aren't enough meters to sufficiently satisfy the requirement of an efficient electrical system.
From: United States, NJ
RobertoJose:
What i was thinking that he meant was 102 providers with small and large generators that sell
electricity to the State, using a common high tension State owned grid, while the State picks up
distribution and billing and they don't have to cover any overhead since the State would subsidize
the electricity.If this is what i just mentioned ,it is a (negocio de capa perro) for the State.
People should not throw words in that they don't know the meaning of, ,just to fill a paragragh and
make others think that he knows what he is talking about, then when asked they don't know or can
not come up with a reasonable answer. if they answer at all because they can not explain it.
From: United States
says Roberto Jose, in reference to a question posed by Mr Rancier
vritten by: RobertoJose, 11 Jul 2012 11:19 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Thelmo, he wont answer.
actually, it is not that he WON´T answer. it is that he CAN´T answer. the guy knows less than zero, about anything, and is just a fool looking for a fight. he has not made one intelligent remark in all his time in this site.
From: United States, NJ
dreadlocks:ref. ohhhvictor
By observation and reading his posting gives me the impression (wrong or right) his party makes
no mistake and is always right, regardless. If i may ask, is he a "lobbyist " paid by PLD?If not then
he must be an electrical provider,with enogh money to bribe and owned a big enogh generator to
sell electricity to the State.
From: United States
i have no idea who, or what, this guy victor is. i just know that he has no sense of objectivity, and has a depraved indifference to logic. i just cannot imagine debating him , face to face. he is the kind of guy who would probably pull a gun on you if you made a point he did not agree with.
From: United States, NJ
drealocks :
You mean to say he is one of those Dominicans who thinks and acts impulsively with no regards?
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We already know the problem and its the administration. First it was someone with education that took advantage of the less educated who thought he was on their side and now we will have someone taking position with no brains, the same as a janitor taking on a position in the AP(Accounts Payable) Department.
STOP STEALING MONEY AND WE CAN GET AHEAD!!!!!
@Roberto Jose and basta... Stop the gloom and doom!
Everytime we hear great news, , you are ALWAYS giving depressive results...
I am done with your pessimism..
This is not B.S., Quirino, fraud of Banco central or the yuca de Gurabo story..This is PLD working baby!
Not even in the chair..And you can already see the results!
......That's why we have the most dynamic secreatry of state ever as a president.. Thanks PLD !
I bet you also think the population as cattle.
Why do you think the dominican republics electrical system is in an embarrassing situation after 12yr ?
Why do we still owe a debt of 1.2 billion US for an original balance of 500 million for the past 3yrs ?
Why are you so satisfied with the performance of a failed administration that only gets hand-outs and no follow throughs ?
Yes, you're right..... lets thank the PLD for those uneducated government officials it hires with no experience to administer this lawless cash cow. Lets not forget to thank them for pushing to get a zone designated for prostitutes and not emphasizing on education for the youngins.. Lets truly not forget to thank them for allowing figueroa agosto 10yrs to bang-out the wives and daughters of the countries elites and generals while selling tons of cocaine.
THANKS PLD, you're doing a wonderful job........PSYCH!!!!
The Colony of Brazil; Dominican Republic!
Ok, let's talk about it..
You are putting the blame in PLD performance... So do you really think that when HIpo was in power situation got better? Let me refresh your memory
Do you remember that we had a closed access international credit with PRD and we couldnt buy gas?
Dont you remember the 48 hours of financial black out? What happens when we bought Edenorte and Edesur?
Do you remember The little "war" with Chavez that we had to buy gas twice the normal price to Trinidad tobago?
Do you remember that electricity generation on 2004 was less that 50 % in the whole D.R. for the first time in 50 years?
Did you know that ANYWHERE in 2004 there wasnt a single a 24 hours circuit in D.R.?
Dont you think that Danilo is trying to do an outstanding job trying to work and looking for a solution of a problem EVEN before getting to the chair?
Or you have a terrible memory, or you are a hypocrite or you & Joseano are the PSYCHOS over here..
When the PRD is in office I'll talk about them, till then the PLD is at the helm and still nothing has been straightened out. I'm sure you forgot the pact that Leonel signed with the PRD before taking office. They always do that, as if to secretly protect each other and look the other way just like what you are doing.
Remember, I'm the one that feeds alcohol to the wannabees and feed them sweet nothing to get them to start talking in DR, I got dirt on the PRD as well.
Anyway even if it jells, this will take a few years to become a reality, by the time all the dots are connected.
Danilo is trying his best to bring some good news after his trips to Colombia and Brazil, and of course is appealing to our good friends and business, investments partners.
I thought Danilo said He was Going to Do "What was Never Done Before," yet so far all his moves are from Lie-onel Fernandez's Narco-Corrupt Playbook!
The power problem in the DR has a long and complicated history but there is one fact that cannot be disputed.
It was started and institutionalized by the P.R.D.
@Roberto Jose..
Nothing have been straighten out ?
Do you think that we still in a situation that we got less than 50 % of electricity?
Now we have 102 circuits of 24 hours electricity..The biggest problem to extend it is because of the fraud situation in a lot of neighborhoods and communities.
And we keep improving, and we will.And the elected president is in Brazil , working for you already , taking care of everything..
Otherwise , we would have a president making bad jobs in Gurabo..
"because of the fraud situation in"...............
The PURPLE National Palace for the last 12 out of 16 years including “The Purple Whale” Euclides Gutiérrez Félix, a founder of the PLD and a member of its Billionaire Club aka the Political Committee, who owes a 3,000,000 million pesos light bill!
If things are so good and LF has done such a great job, why are they asking a foreign government to build this government new power stations? Should they not be able to do it themselves?
Shouldn't they be able to build and run new power stations without out side assistance?
Surely these hard working brainiacs could run it all on their own... right??
With 12 of 16 years why are there still aid organizations and NOG's working here if things are going as well as you say they are? Look beyond the past of Hippo and talk about the here and now....
Written by: RobertoJose,
"Damn Ant, you're right, BUTT, what have they done to correct it ."
Not a damn thing.
Why should they?
It is such a cash cow for bribes, corruption and cronyism I don't ever see the D.R.'s energy problems being solved under the current system of government.
"I don't ever see the D.R.'s energy problems being solved under the current system of government."
Please suggest you prescription for the system of government that would be able to solve it!
Elected president in brazil working for me ? Like the countless trips made by Lee-Flee, nothing will come of it.
BTW, if DR doesn't get its act together, you think paying twice for oil back then was bad. Wait till chavez lose patience with the tardiness of the future and current government. Lets hope chavez doesn't reconcile with his racist side and partner up with haiti. That will be a wake-up call to all.
Written by: stillhere, 10 Jul 2012 11:25 AM
From: Dominican Republic
ohvi... a very easy question for you..
even if the question is easy enough for an ape to answer, victor cannot. evolution dealt him a very harsh hand.
Whoa, whoa Ant-knee. Its too much for you to take in.
Better to spend the money on a plant to manufacture low cost high efficiency refrigeratoirs etc. and close down businesses that consume too much energy.
S.
That's an oxymoron and has had vast amounts of money from all over the world thrown at it to no real result...
Why would "environmental friendly coal fired plants" spend just last year 8 million on lobbying in just the US to keep getting funding... ???? Surely something working so well wouldn't need to do that?
In other REAL electrical News:
"The Calls to Canonize Celso Marranzini may have been little premature!"
Will the blackouts be back?
24/7 power for neighborhoods has almost been the norm during the Public Electricity Corporation (CDEEE) administration under Celso Marranzini, but news reports are now suggesting that blackouts may on their way back due to financial constraints. So-called 24-hour sectors have already been suffering blackouts, which had been a thing of the past for months.
A report from the CDEEE published in Hoy says that the deficit for the first four months of the year is US$417.3 million. Power distributors registered a deficit of US$307 million, while the CDEEE is showing a deficit of US$110.3 million for the US$417.30 million.
"The year end deficit will be US$1.25 billion, with US$921 million for the distributors and US$331 million for the CDEEE, if we project the present deficit accumulated in the first quarter of 2012," says the report.
cont
Losses for the first four months - the difference between energy billed and that purchased from the generators - averaged 37% for EdeSur, EdeNorte and EdeEste power distributors.
Hoy reports there is the concern that the requested US$500 million in sovereign bonds placement to cover the electricity sector's financial gap will not be enough. The CDEEE reports this is because of the inefficiency, management issues and excess employment at the power distribution companies and the CDEEE itself.
The report specifies that the government will need to increase the subsidy otherwise the frequency and intensity of blackouts will increase.
President-elect Danilo Medina recently visited Colombia and Brazil to hold talks to discuss imports of natural gas and coal used in electricity generation, construction of new generators and other electricity issues.
hoy.com.do/el-pais/2012/7/7/435999/Continua-imparable-deficit-de-liquidez-registra-CDEEE
DR1
It looks like 24/7 Election Gimmick is over!
I know what a circuit is ,but am not too familiar with a 102 circuit 24/7,as use in DR . Please
explain.
Converting existing PP to coal is not practical and too expensive ,once pulverizers are thrown in.
The main thing is to find a financier to lend $ for the power plant,not the know how.Going back to
coal is like going back 100 yrs in generation. We have solar and wind power that need no supplier
DR has no fossil fuel so the other alternative is those two forementioned unless they want build
more dams. All those are clean energy with out having to import fossil fuel.
You still did not answer my question as to the 102 circuits 24/7 in DR terminology. I know what a circuit is in electrical terminology ,but not as used by you. Please explain.
What i was thinking that he meant was 102 providers with small and large generators that sell
electricity to the State, using a common high tension State owned grid, while the State picks up
distribution and billing and they don't have to cover any overhead since the State would subsidize
the electricity.If this is what i just mentioned ,it is a (negocio de capa perro) for the State.
People should not throw words in that they don't know the meaning of, ,just to fill a paragragh and
make others think that he knows what he is talking about, then when asked they don't know or can
not come up with a reasonable answer. if they answer at all because they can not explain it.
vritten by: RobertoJose, 11 Jul 2012 11:19 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Thelmo, he wont answer.
actually, it is not that he WON´T answer. it is that he CAN´T answer. the guy knows less than zero, about anything, and is just a fool looking for a fight. he has not made one intelligent remark in all his time in this site.
By observation and reading his posting gives me the impression (wrong or right) his party makes
no mistake and is always right, regardless. If i may ask, is he a "lobbyist " paid by PLD?If not then
he must be an electrical provider,with enogh money to bribe and owned a big enogh generator to
sell electricity to the State.
You mean to say he is one of those Dominicans who thinks and acts impulsively with no regards?