now Josean, what do you have to say ... I'm all ears (!)
and plz spare us the PURLE BULL$HIT Servus Pleas ...

Good. Now if only an energy tax were introduced and restriction placed on energy hungry appliances, shopping mall, bank opening hours etc. blackouts could be reduced.

S,.

That's right, ABC. conservation is the best way to stretch our energy needs. Just replacing wasteful incandescent bulbs with LED's can save the output of a multi-megawatt generator.

600 B.C.

Thales of Miletus writes about amber becoming charged by rubbing - he was describing what we now call static electricity.



Mr. Toshiba,

The technology has been around for a little while and I believe WIND has for a little longer.

Nothing to get excited about, is not like the PLD landed a man on Mars is it!

no they didn't they've just landed the Burro in the conuco. Lol.

Notice they don't mention the cost per KwH as compared to traditional methods is astronomical.

For a Developing nation like the D.R. to pour money into Wind power is shear madness, when there are cheap, clean, reliable and more efficient means readily available to generate electricity.

In other Electrical News:


The Country is a Chaotic Debt Crisis and Danilo is doing MORE LOANS!

The guy already has his hand in the Cookie Jar and he hasn’t even been sworn in!

What ever happened to “Fixing what is Wrong and Doing what has Never Been Done?”

It seems he is stuck on “Doing the Same Only Worse!”


“Danilo Medina negotiating Colombian loans to improve the electricity”

"Bogota, Colombia.-The Government of the Dominican Republic, beginning August 16 this year, will seek financing from Columbia for the implementation of projects related to the improvement of the electrical service in the Dominican territory."


Now in addition to be owned by Venezuela and Brazil we will become a financial colony of Columbia as well.

acento.com.do/index.php/news/18927/56/Danilo-Medina-diligencia-prestamos-en-Colombia-para-mejorar-la-electricidad.html

¡Querían Moraó Cojan Moraó!

"plz spare us the PURLE BULL$HIT Servus Pleas ...'

This is a privately payed for project and is not payed for by the PLD, PRD or any other letters you may bring in..
AC
"Notice they don't mention the cost per KwH as compared to traditional methods is astronomical."

Is there a new fee for wind coming off the ocean, is it different from land generated wind?? wind has a cost now?? mmm Them keep you mouth closed the fee are mounting up on you AC.... Or we could get you to stand in front of them to spin them faster??

Please lay out the "astronomical" cost for us v the cost of say the traditional methods coal, LPG, diesel, AC?

After Alpha solid his lucrative watch business and his collectable RED Ikea sofa, added to the money he saved from collecting aluminum cans, I mean his recycling business, he bought the original plans to the Perpetual Motion Machine.

Ever since then he has been working on it feverishly day and night (of course with his mosquito suit on) in his Alligator filled back yard in the Swamp called Florida, trying to obtain a patent.

More loans and more loans this not about political parties any more it is crazy , now is colombia's tern , come now , don't fell in this trap , DR goberment already have a 20 billions in debts to public and probate sectors and can even paid Venezuela yet.2.2 billions, maybe some cruess from colombia is getting paid to approve it, ..... Already. Albizu can to Washington to set up some loans with IMF, for the next president Danilo Medina. ...,, star for saying NOT to loans DR , this corrupt officials are looking for themselves .... STOP corruption

Stillhere,


Google "The real cost of Wind power" and you will get your answer.


Nothing is free. Even Josean juvenile rants cost money.

"juvenile"

Yet you feel obligated to respond!

anthonyC,

¨For a Developing nation like the D.R. to pour money into Wind power is shear madness, when there are cheap, clean, reliable and more efficient means readily available to generate electricity.¨

I beg to differ. We are not an oil producing nation and relying of fossil fuel for all our energy needs makes our development more vulnerable to the whims of the international markets. I would argue that overall, when generating electrincity from fossil fuel, the cost per KwH is directly proportional to the price of the energy source.

as normal Josean can say nothing positive about any progress..I am sure he has no idea of the national sovereign debt or private debt either as an amount or percentage of GDP nor has he any idea of the rollover dates or the costs of rollover ..just is a sad sad case

"he has no idea of the national sovereign debt or private debt either as an amount or percentage of GDP nor has he any idea of the rollover dates or the costs of rollover"


Neither DO YOU, if you believe the Government's PURPLE Propaganda!


Oh I forgot YOU DO, with BLIND INTRAVENOUS PASSION!

Arcangel96,

And what are you suppose to do for energy when there is no wind?


If you say batteries this conversation is over.

anthonyC,
LOL, in the case there is no wind in the whole island, at the same time, then solar. If not enough we could switch to hydroelectric, if not enough water then, fossil fuel. I'm not suggesting that our sole source energy be wind power, more like we should not rely solely on
fossil fuel.

Josean proves he is a clueless dope every chance he gets.LOL.

.oceanlinx.com/

We live on an island facing the Atlantic, the major recourse we are not using is the vast ocean and the power it produces every day, day in day out.
But I'm sure AC will find a problem because it's not polluting, killing of the world around us or making more money for those have made all so much already my by the above..

"Written by: kennyB, 7 Jul 2012 10:13 PM

From: United States


Josean proves he is a clueless dope every chance he gets.LOL."


Something you don't have to prove since in your case there is not DOUBT you’re a DOPE!!

I believe this is private investment, the government has very little to do with it.

Arcangel96 wrote:

"LOL, in the case there is no wind in the whole island, at the same time, then solar. If not enough we could switch to hydroelectric, if not enough water then, fossil fuel. "

Wouldn't make sense to just stick with cheap, clean, reliable fossil fuel instead of wasting money on expensive, unreliable sources like wind and solar when you are just going to use fossil fuels in the long run anyway?

Money the D.R. does not have to waste BTW

OK stillhere

Lets hear you plan for a cheap, reliable form of energy produced from the ocean.

First you want me to read some oil lobby inspired pages that contain no number to show that they are trying to say (would you care to show us the number behind it).
Now you want me to explain a very well tested functioning wave and tide power generator with the link attached for you?
Sorry if these things aren't on the NRA or Heartland website that you rely on to tell you what to think....
Or you could call Glen Beck and Rush to hear what they have to say about what you should think..

There is no point telling you what I think, anything clean and renewable goes against your hard line Republican oil and coal money. If you can't look past the old and look further than "drill baby drill" and see the vast new world out there, then go back to the Ronald Reagan alter and pay for more money to help silence those that want a better world than one what was given to us...

Written by: stillhere,.
"Now you want me to explain a very well tested functioning wave and tide power generator with the link attached for you?'

I know quite well how wave and tidal generation works. In fact I was involved with FAU's tidal power study which investigated using the turbines to harness the power of the Gulf stream.

Now I want you to name me one place where a significant wave or tide power energy generation project is running reliably, efficiently and cost effective.

Just one!

The biggest tidal power project in the world is the Sihwa Lake Tidal Power Station in Koreawhich cost over a quarter of a BILLION US DOLLARS to make just to produce 1/4 of the power of a typical coal fire plant that costs less than 1/2 to build.

So again show me just ONE


Just one!

anthonyC,

You said ...
Money the D.R. does not have to waste BTW¨

I don think is the Dominican Government that is building these projects but the private sector.

- Parques Eólicos del Caribe (Pecasa), ¨Parque Eólico Guanillo, Monte Cristi¨
- Grupo Eólico Dominicano (Inveravante), ¨El Parque Eólico Matafongo, Peravia¨
- La Empresa Generadora de Electricidad Haina (EGE Haina), El Parque Eólico de Juancho Los Cocos, Pedernales

anthonyC,

Also, this technology is developing pretty fast. I think it will not be long before commercial energy storage will come on board. Don´t worry I do not mean batteries, but hydrogen. :)

The ultimate source of clean, inexhaustible, reliable power, comes from our sun. When we, humans learn how best to garner this energy, our world will change in ways that will amaze us all.

In the meantime, we must keep further enhancing wind, solar, tidal, et al, technology and gradually wean ourselves from fossil fuels.

There is a wealth of potential in Biodiesel, for instance. Also, garbage has huge potential for generating Methane which can meet all our needs for motorized transport, forever.
We must forge ahead with research&developement of all sources of energy that does not involve Oil and it's derivatives.

The main reason for our addiction to Oil is that it's still relatively cheap/ convenient. But there will eventually come a time when we won't have any more of it...What then?
This is the best of times for DR to make it's move away from expensive conventional fuels and invest in the future of a clean world with plenty of power to go around.
The future is now.

RonEvans,

Stop believing all those Greenpeace press releases. Methane from garbage is insignificant.
One huge dump could power just a few 100 homes.

Bio-fuel is a scam. Take away government subsidies and the industry collapses. That is a good thing as it artificially makes the market to abandon food production which drives up the prices of foodstuffs.

Solar power has been touted for generations and yet we are no where near a true solution. And I ain't holding my breath for one either.

The Future is Nuclear (Including cold fusion) and Hydrogen if they can find a way to produce it cheaply.

Until them we must rely on cheap, proven and plentiful fossil fuels

I have to agree with Kenny B, tschotschua, Ricardolito and anthony C...


Joseane.. is clueless about everything.. he only show negativism......No positive comment about any progress in any area..
Only gloom and doom...Like a bad cartoon!


Schizophrenia is a mental disorder when people dont think clearly...and people like Joseano can not tell the difference between what is real and not real.

People with schizophrenia like Joseano manifests itself as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking ( all his symptoms!! )

What a prick!

"delusions???"


And you where doing so well for 24hrs and here you go and fall of the WAGON!!

@Joseano

That definition or words weren't mine..cuz I am not shrink, but it CERTAINLY resemble who you are..
It's ALL your simptoms 100 % ..

So my schizo friend..If the hat fits you..put it on baby!

"It's ALL your simptoms 100 % .."

You had it right the first time (all his symptoms!!)

Well said Ron..

"The Future is Nuclear (Including cold fusion) and Hydrogen if they can find a way to produce it cheaply."

Fusion and hydrogen yes, nuclear is still reliant on someone digging it up and selling to you, then paying someone to store it way safely for a few thousand years..
Stepping forward with multiple renewable energy forms and developing new ones is the only way forward along with reductions in unit uses of power.. more efficient cars, lights, TV, AC units etc etc.

"Stop believing all those Greenpeace press releases. Methane from garbage is insignificant.
One huge dump could power just a few 100 homes."
That's hundreds of home that have no need for fossil fuel power then isn't it? and is at least used for something... Why ignore it?
We will stop believing the Greenpeace stuff if you stop believing the oil and coal lobby...

"We will stop believing the Greenpeace stuff if you stop believing the oil and coal lobby..."


and the Koch Brothers!

hahahahhahah oh forgot about them...

Written by: Arcangel96,

"I don think is the Dominican Government that is building these projects but the private sector."


All are heavily subsidized by the D.R. Government.

anthonyC,

You said ....¨All are heavily subsidized by the D.R. Government.¨

I know that the electricity produced by fossil fuel, in Dominican Republic, is subsidize, to compensate for the variation of fuel prices. But, what kind of subsidy are you talking about with wind power? Other than the initial investment I don´t see any other?

Arcangel96,

Subsidies for fossil fuels is wrong as well.

The D.R. Government guarantees the purchase price of the electricity generated by the windmills as well.

"The D.R. Government guarantees the purchase price of the electricity generated by the windmills as well."

Mr. AC, Let's clear this up. Our govt must guarantee the price per kilowatt in order to attract investors in building solar, wind, etc. If this were not so, few would want to take chances in this volatile market.

What you don't see, is that oil and it's derivatives are much pricier per KW, than that generated by alternatives.
Fuel must be purchased in an ongoing basis and makes us slaves of Chavez, of the fluctuating world market and constant need for more of it.
This money for fuel, will take flight from our shores, never to be seen again!.. It is expensive, wasteful, and very polluting.
The answer isn't fossil fuels, Nuclear fission or "cold fusion" (There's no such thing).
The way to go is to combine many alternatives into constant megawatt producers and free ourselves from the tyranny of depending on other nations for dirty, expensive, and finite oil.

@ROnvane

Excellent post.. Just excellent and VERY intelligent by the way..

"Stop believing all those Greenpeace press releases. Methane from garbage is insignificant.
One huge dump could power just a few 100 homes."

Mr. AC, I don't know how old you are or what field of study you've delved in. Let me say I'm 62 with a degree and been around long enought to know what I'm talking about....So please do not tell me otherwise, what I already know.

The main reason for humanity's stubbornly staying the course with oil, is because it is still convenient and relatively cheap. But this won't last forever. If the trend continues and we keep using up oil in an ever increasing amount, in 20 year's time, there will be very little left and so expensive, we in DR will have no fuel for our cars and even less to produce electricity.

Just go ahead and keep paying $3.50 per gallon in the US, and over $5.00 in DR.
If you can afford that price now, wait a while. Let's see how many of you will, in just a couple of years.

Written by: josean, ,


"We will stop believing the Greenpeace stuff if you stop believing the oil and coal lobby..."
and the Koch Brothers!

Both have an agenda. One's is for freedom of the markets and expression and the other (Greenpeace) is an organization connected to terrorism around the world and advocates fascist ideals of government controlled businesses and economy as well as the suppression of freedom of expression

RonEvane,

With government prices supports are allegedly needed for the reasons you stated but in reality it is needed because of populous policies such as allowing huge numbers of voters steal electricity.

If the energy industry in the D.R. was privatized you can rest assure that the issues with power shortages would quickly be a thing of the past.

Mr. AC. Allow me to clarify one small detail we may not have discussed: ..After the initial investment of building hydroelectric dams, the "fuel" to power it is totally free.
What powers wind turbines, solar photovoltaic panels, ocean tides, biodiesel, methane digesters, etc. are all totally free, and clearly without technological encumbrances/hurdles.

We can produce biodiesel and methane to last forever. We can generate electricity to satisfy our industrial and residential needs without burning a drop of oil.
We don't need nor want to rely on any country and their oil for our energy needs! We can be self-sufficient and energy independent for the next 4.5 billion years, when our star will swallow us all, as it becomes a "red giant". Until then, We can live happily and satisfactory by embracing the sciences and the technology within it.
Oil and its' derivatives are still too cheap for our own good!

Written by: RonEvane,

"Mr. AC. Allow me to clarify one small detail we may not have discussed: ..After the initial investment of building hydroelectric dams, the "fuel" to power it is totally free."

Free? What a typical response of one who hates the free market.

Do you think that once the wind turbines are up there not a single penny that will need to be spent?

Do you have any clue how much is involved with the maintaining of wind turbines or dams?

"Do you have any clue how much is involved with the maintaining of wind turbines or dams?"

Yes .. far less than continually paying for oil, coal or gas ( with all it's fluctuations from a foreign country), refining it, plus transport it to the DR then transport within the DR and then a crew to run and maintain it and repair it 24/7 356. Not to mention all the part needed.

I'll be impressed when there are no blackouts. Who are the recipients of this electricity? I can't wait for the reports of turbines ending up at scrap yards destination China.

DT should have a poll, "what is the time for your neighborhood? Aye coño no luz!

So they ask our past president Hipolito Mejia about the idea of installing more Wind Generators his response was that he thought it was a great idea and to put some by his houses because it was very hot specially in his home town large fans like this will cool the barrios a bit…Jajajaja.