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Santo Domingo.- President Danilo Medina’s Administration has disbursed around RD$90 million to farmers across the country in the past two days, including Sunday’s 17.2 million pesos to buy and repair irrigation and spray pumps and fertilizers, to re-launch the Finca 6 Project, in Azua (south).

The president also ordered the clearing of around 4,000 hectares of brush lands for immediate planting in the town El Carrizal, Peralta, also in Azua.

Medina made an unannounced visit to the Finca 6 Project, whose 250 members listed the hurdles they affirm face to export their products abroad, because they need to buy tons of fertilizers, drain and clean its 15 kilometer channel, among other woes.

This project was very productive until 2010, when exported from six to seven containers a week, but by debt and lack of capital, production declined.

To revive the project, Medina announced a RD$10.2 million loan to solve the problems and resume the export of as many as 12 containers of bananas per week, and another 3.0 million to clean and drain the canals and RD$4.0 million for fertilizer and working capital.

Power lines, shool bus

The President also instructed the energy distributor EdeSur to provide 24 hours of energy to the Project’s farmers and instructed the agro bank (Bagricola) to renegotiate their pending loan, and assigned a bus so the community’s students can go to class.

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Written by: ScandiViking, 4 Feb 2013 7:43 AM
From: Norway
The story reads:
This project was very productive until 2010, when exported from six to seven containers a week, but by debt and lack of capital, production declined.

How come, if the project was very productive, they could not downpay on the loans????
Written by: zooma, 4 Feb 2013 8:02 AM
From: United States, and Dominican Republic

ScandiViking

The farmers have been plagued with increased production costs, sigatoka disease, and loss of markets. Production three years ago was 3 boxes per hectare and now down to 1.8 boxes per hectare.

It could be the production for the export market was supportable of and by itself. However, one has to look at the whole picture and realize the export enterprise could not be sustained when the demands of the domestic consumption weighs upon the ability of the farmers to produce today's needs using economic allowances of the past.

Loan payback is based upon financial equations of revenues from future production. Like all farming operations if productivity does not meet expectations the farmer does not have the ability to pay off loans.


Written by: Atabey, 4 Feb 2013 9:27 AM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--
zooma,

"Loan payback is based upon financial equations of revenues from future production. Like all farming operations if productivity does not meet expectations the farmer does not have the ability to pay off loans."

But what ScandiViking is giving voice to is the inconsistency that many of these programs ultimately degrade into. Instead of creating a platform toward self-sufficiency, when difficult times come, they end up unprepared for them and the State then has to bail them out at a cost to the rest of society.


Written by: zooma, 4 Feb 2013 10:06 AM
From: United States, and Dominican Republic

Atabey,

The same could be said about banks, as the state had to bail them out, US and the island.

Supposedly, the banks were self sufficient.

Written by: Atabey, 4 Feb 2013 10:32 AM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--


Agree, that there ARE MANY moochers who want handouts.

Medina would be wise to insist that a reserve fund, PAID BY THEIR EARNINGS, be put aside for future problems. And there will be FUTURE PROBLEMS!


Written by: zooma, 4 Feb 2013 1:44 PM
From: United States, and Dominican Republic

Yes there are moochers but I hardly expect the farmers to be moochers.

You have to figure that the farm is sort of a well. The farmer has some resources but not enough to exploit the well. He needs water to prime the pump but does not have sufficient quantiy to do it. He asks for some help and the gov't says it can oblige with an assistance progam with a private water bank. The water bank can supply the farmer with enough water to prime the pump and the farmer is contracted to reimburse the water bank with a portion of the water he obtains from the well with the use of the assistance. The famer makes use of the program and is pumping water every day. However, the well goes dry. The farmer can no longer reimburse the water bank. Is the farmer a moocher ?

Written by: originalmrb, 4 Feb 2013 1:47 PM
From: Canada, Ontario
2 questions come to mind;

First - this article reads as if there is a grant, (of sorts), being given to farmers. This implies that the grant is to independent farmers because it then goes on to talk about a loan to large scale operations such as Fica 6. Therefore; am I reading this correctly - grants to independents but loans to larger farm projects?

Second - if this so-called loan is not properly secured, (vis-a-vis it may not be paid back due to misuse or otherwise poor circumstance), then why loan it at all? Why not make it a re-imbursement program - or even better perhaps - a submitted project schedule from Fica 6 et al, wherein an appointed 3rd party overseer does the tallying and places the orders for supply. This way nothing gets ordered unless it makes sense and has been proven to be necessary. In other words, don't invest in something shaky, but rather expend resources with a microscope. I bet you'd save money and never have to right off bad debts.
Written by: originalmrb, 4 Feb 2013 1:54 PM
From: Canada, Ontario


BTW.... I love the school bus idea. It shows forward thinking, concern for the future well being of the kids, and for the families of farmers at large.

Also I am loving the order to re-negotiate current loans. Again showing full range of knowledge, and initiative. It gives the farmers a moment to pause, take a breath and then to get down to the business of hauling themself out of the bog.

The government - by all appearances - seems to be providing the vehicle to gain footing. The farmers will need to do the real work to make it happen.
Written by: Atabey, 4 Feb 2013 2:02 PM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--

Written by: zooma, 4 Feb 2013 1:44 PM
From: United States

Yes there are moochers but I hardly expect the farmers to be moochers."


Seriously?

When "free lunches" are being handed out, the nature of man takes over: rich , middle class or poor, they will try to get their "small" portion. At least that's been the history of Government subsidies.

Written by: originalmrb, 4 Feb 2013 1:54 PM
From: Canada


Good questions.


" Why not make it a reimbursement program - or even better perhaps - a submitted project schedule from Fica 6 et al, wherein an appointed 3rd party overseer does the tallying and places the orders for supply."


Indeed.

Written by: rokete, 4 Feb 2013 2:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

Danilo is doing well by addressing the problem firs hand.

However, his lieutenants are to be responsible for doing so.

It shows he really cares about the farmers predicaments,

and wants to make sure thing are resolved appropriately.

Way to Danilo !!!!
Written by: zooma, 4 Feb 2013 2:09 PM
From: United States, and Dominican Republic

originalmrb,

Your "appointed 3rd party overseer " A third party in this country's behavior and culture is nothing but another opportunist who will manipulate the system to pocket the gains intended for the public.






Written by: Danilo, 4 Feb 2013 2:18 PM
From: Dominican Republic, SDQ --- VIGILADOR.COM (Beta) - Vigilando nuestra Quisqueya
To prevent this from happening again make sure these farmers pay into some type of insurance coverage.
Written by: Tomas, 4 Feb 2013 5:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
That's doing the right thing President Medina!
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
From a Canadian that moved here!
Written by: RoyStone, 4 Feb 2013 7:38 PM
From: Australia
"...ordered the clearing of around 4,000 hectares of brush lands.."
So much for preserving the environment!
If this farming can't pay for itself and needs taxpayer handouts, then pension-off these peasants, and stop fvcking the environment.
Written by: Tomas, 5 Feb 2013 7:57 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
You cannot preserve all the "brush lands".
This clearing means jobs & eventually more bannanas
to export!
Gracias Danilo!
Written by: rokete, 5 Feb 2013 1:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.
Thomas

You really nailed it.

Wouldn't add another word.

Banana trees are vegetation, food. and $$ Dollars.
Written by: RoyStone, 5 Feb 2013 5:23 PM
From: Australia
rokete,
"Wouldn't add another word."

Very wise - he already has his foot on his mouth.

"Banana trees are vegetation"

1) Bananas grow on herbaceous flowering plants, not trees.

2) Done without regard for the environment (like everything in the Duminincan Republic), irrigation and the use of fertilizers in the tropics fvcks the environment. Even in Australia, fertilizers are killing the coral in the Great Barrier Reef. (Don't need to worry in the waters of the Duminican Republic - the coral is long dead).
Written by: Tomas, 5 Feb 2013 7:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Rokete, gracias.

Roy, are you stoned, drunk or just plain ignorant & rude?
We have several banana "trees" on our property here in Cabrera.
They produce lots of bananas without fertilizer twice a year.
The same with plantain.
Maybe you have a fancy name there, but here bananas grow on trees.
If it looks like a tree, has leaves & acts like a tree, it probably is a tree!
Sorry, we have a lot of live coral here.
Written by: rokete, 5 Feb 2013 7:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

RoyStone

No RoyStone they are scientifically:

Musa acuminata


Whatever !!!!!!!!

You are nothing more than a Troll, together with dreadlocks,

The troll duo in the forum.

LOL
Written by: rokete, 5 Feb 2013 7:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

Tomas Said

"Roy, are you stoned, drunk or just plain ignorant & rude"?

RoyStone is every thing you said Tomas and also a Troll.

Him and dreadlocks are trolls.

TROLL

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. The noun troll may also refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."

Busted !!!!

And

Uncovered !!!
Written by: ohhhvictor, 5 Feb 2013 9:59 PM
From: United States
Danilo Medina encabezando el primer lugar de los Presidentes latinoamericanos mejor valorados, de acuerdo a esta encuesta abierta de 20minutos.es de España.

listas.20minutos.es/lista/mejor-presidente-de-america-latina-344290/
Written by: RoyStone, 6 Feb 2013 2:04 AM
From: Australia
"If it looks like a tree, has leaves & acts like a tree, it probably is a tree!"
How Duminican -
Looks like a woman, dresses like a woman, feels like a woman, she's only 15? Near enough!
Written by: Tomas, 6 Feb 2013 7:54 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Well then Roy, we can see where your sick trollish mind is.
Please do not post here unless it is usefull info.
Written by: rokete, 6 Feb 2013 2:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

Tomas

You notice that Roystone writes the word, (Duminicans intead of Dominicans).

He is insulting Dominicans in this forum, by implying that Dominicans are dumb, when he spells the word with a U.

RoyStone and Dreadlocks are trolls in this forum, with the intention of twisting and turning Dominicans points of view, on the issues that affect us.

Specially, with the issues concerning Illegal Haitian migration into the Dominican republic.

They are both Illegal Haitian advocates in this forum.
Written by: rokete, 6 Feb 2013 2:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

Roystone

If Dominicans are so dumb as you imply in your messages, why don't you go to another forum.

A forum where you can display your supposedly "Superior insight", IQ and intelligence.

You are wasting your time in this forum.

I always remember that movie with Tom Hanks:

Stupid is what stupid does.

You are being stupid by wasting your time in this forum !!!
Written by: ohhhvictor, 6 Feb 2013 2:29 PM
From: United States
Rokete..
Do you wanna have a blast?

Ask roystone the good things about British colonialism can bring to DR..

He love the idea of the British now being the colonial empire that runs DR!
The same ones that brought misery and slavery to india, America,,Africa, China with their opium war, etc..

Something SOOOOO obsolete ,that nobody in their worst twisted mind can even dream of!
Written by: rokete, 6 Feb 2013 2:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

Isn't it a little late for colonialism ???

LOL

Written by: Tomas, 6 Feb 2013 3:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Colonialism is as dead as RoyStoned mind is!
We can fix the DR!
With President Medina's help it will be
sooner than later!
Written by: rokete, 6 Feb 2013 3:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

Agree 100% Tomas

Let's hope for the best !!

Que Viva Quisqueya !!
Written by: Tomas, 6 Feb 2013 5:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
si! Viva Quisqueya!
Taino rule!
It would appear Roy stoned does not like us!
The feeling is mutual I think.
Have a great evening!
Tom.
Written by: CarpeDiem, 7 Feb 2013 1:09 PM
From: United States
Tomas, Rokete, Ohhvictor, et al.

Roystoned has a fetish with the F word. He is incapable of wrting a post without some form of profanity. Why do each of you "care" what he thinks or says? By responding to his garbage, you feed into his world. Is that where you really want to be?

Your responses to his crap add more of his nonsensical retorts. Ignore any and all of his posts. While he may not go away (I will guarantee it), he may run short of insults and vulgarity.

continued
Written by: Tomas, 7 Feb 2013 1:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Hey chum, we are just trying to teach the idiot something about our great
(with a few hundred problems) Country, Quiesqueya!
Written by: CarpeDiem, 7 Feb 2013 1:32 PM
From: United States
Be guided accordingly to others like Roystoned. You know who they are.

Famous quote: "It is not what a person thinks, says or believes". The only real thing, is what he "does".

Ciao
Written by: CarpeDiem, 7 Feb 2013 1:35 PM
From: United States
Ooops. Almost forgot..

Let him rant and vent.




continued
Written by: CarpeDiem, 7 Feb 2013 1:38 PM
From: United States

It should be e d u c a t i o n a l,
Written by: CarpeDiem, 7 Feb 2013 1:41 PM
From: United States

not confrontational.

Keep this forum with your good and positive comments ...
Written by: CarpeDiem, 7 Feb 2013 1:44 PM
From: United States
Tomas, 7 Feb 2013 1:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Hey chum, we are just trying to teach the idiot something about our great
(with a few hundred problems) Country

Mi amigo. You should know by now, you can't teach an idiot anything.

Saludos
Written by: RoyStone, 7 Feb 2013 5:36 PM
From: Australia
So enlighten me - what have you pseudo-patriots actually done for your country?
Written by: CarpeDiem, 8 Feb 2013 1:38 PM
From: United States
Tomas, Rokete, Ohhvictor, et al.

Gentlemen. Have a great weekend.

Ciao
Written by: Tomas, 8 Feb 2013 1:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Roy, you would no believe what, or come back with some childish remark.
Have a good weekend in spite of yourself.
Written by: CarpeDiem, 8 Feb 2013 6:15 PM
From: United States
Tomas.

Ignore the Prick.

Ciao
Written by: RoyStone, 9 Feb 2013 12:53 AM
From: Australia
As I thought - nothing!
Written by: rokete, 9 Feb 2013 1:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

I have not finish yet but I am working on:

DEPORTING ALL ILLEGALS FROM QUISQUEYA !!!
Written by: RoyStone, 9 Feb 2013 2:24 AM
From: Australia
So how many Haitians have you personally evicted so far?
Written by: rokete, 9 Feb 2013 4:15 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL ! )) The only thing necessary for the triumph of Haitian evil is for good Dominican men to do nothing.

In reality ??

More than you can count with your fingers, and your toes.

You would be surprised if I give you the number.

Don;t ask its confidential.

LOL
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