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NEW YORK.- A new report by the Pew Center on United States’ Latino population confirms that  1.5 million Dominicans live in the nation, or 2.9% of the total population.

The study notes that the statistic is valid until 2011, an was also confirmed by the 2010 Census, which found that Dominicans are the fifth largest Hispanic population in the U.S., while the 33.5 million Mexicans continue at first place (64.6%).

The Pew Center said the data is based on its survey of the Latino community in the U.S. conducted ??in 2011.

Mexicans are followed by Puerto Ricans with around 5 million, but doesn’t explain why that group was included since they are U.S. citizens by birth.

The report said 14 Latino subgroups have emerged including Argentinians, Nicaraguans, Spaniards and Venezuelans.

It adds that more than half of the Dominicans (56%) were born in the Dominican Republic compared with 36% for all other Hispanics, which account for 13% of the entire U.S. population.

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45 comment(s)
Written by: Adamo123, 20 Jun 2013 10:19 AM
From: United States
Lets say 1.5 millions documented Dominicains, .... that does not tell us how may undocumented Dominicains are living in the USA. I won't be surprised if there are more undoc than doc. No one will ever know that number. Illegal immigrants would rather stay under the radar so they would not participate in census among many other things.
Written by: cibaeño75, 20 Jun 2013 12:24 PM
From: United States, New York City
Adamo...fact is that undocumented Dominicans do not even exceed ten percent of the population. If you can find tangible evidence that states as much other than heresay then by all means present it.
Written by: curlando, 20 Jun 2013 12:43 PM
From: United States, Bronx
That's really just in the Bronx.
Written by: Adamo123, 20 Jun 2013 12:54 PM
From: United States
cibaeno75... Do you have the facts to back up your statement too, this is not about pride, lets just keep it real. By the way, there is nothing wrong about that, so there is no need to be on the defensive. But accept the reality as it is. And ten percent of what population you are talking about or do you meant to say 10 percent of the documented group. 10 percent of the latter would not be truthful, you should probably well say there is none if you think there isn't 150000 undocumented Dominicains in the United states, In Puerto Rico alone there is about as much.....go check your facts.
Written by: cibaeño75, 20 Jun 2013 12:57 PM
From: United States, New York City
Adamo I'd like to check the facts you're referring to. Again, please provide a source for your assertions other than heresay. It's not about pride. I'm basing my figures on the projections given by the last census conducted by the US federal government. What are your figures based on?
Written by: danny00, 20 Jun 2013 1:42 PM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
Under the radar?.......Why!!! Warrents outstanding for them........
Written by: Adamo123, 20 Jun 2013 2:18 PM
From: United States
e e e e ee
Do you believe that Illegal immigrants participate in Census? If you disagree with this assertion please come up with your facts to shut me up. By the way, I used to live in the triboro and still visit frequently. I have my opinions on it and so are you entitled to your own take on this issue. I have lot of Dominican friends and buddies in the states. And those friends they do not hide the reality from their friend for I am also an eyewitness to it too. By the way, talking about population sample, there is always a sampling/margin error in the data which they did not tell you either....Do you think that everyone is counted. Do you also think that the folks living in the USA on multiple visa entries and go back home every 5 months and come back to the US a month later, even that they are legal and not under the red light, will participate in the Census. LOL. Sen your link if you can't publish the numbers.... love to see them
Written by: Adamo123, 20 Jun 2013 2:26 PM
From: United States
cibaeno75
A while back in this forum, somebody had claimed that the Dominicans head count living in the USA to about 500k and mostly legal, you should probably share your data with our bloggers.....if you don't deem it highly classified info uhm! Please do! How many Dominicans are living in Puerto Rico alone........Do your homework and share it with us?
Written by: cibaeño75, 20 Jun 2013 2:42 PM
From: United States, New York City
"Do you believe that Illegal immigrants participate in Census?"

Of course they are not but projections are made on the information collected. No one can definitevely number such a group. But estimates that fall within pre-established guidelines as set by the US Census Bureau are used to determine an approximate number of illegals for any said group. How do you think they come up with the number of illegals in US soil? It's not a number pulled out of someone's arse. It's an estimate based on certain criteria. If you can provide a better, unimpeachable source than the US Census Bureau than by all means do so. Again, you have provided no definitive source for your assertions other than your say so. You can easily look up the Census Bureau's numbers regarding Dominicans on your own.
Written by: Adamo123, 20 Jun 2013 3:55 PM
From: United States
The number is not coming from someone's arse but rather from a dick head. If you want to believe that the 1.5 (1.414 ) is a concrete head count, feel free. You are just fooling yourself. See the Census as a baseline or a sample representative of a population dh....I am not going to argue with you for everyone is going to interpret it and use it based on their intellect quotient and statistical knowledge. Did the census break it down into legal and illegal for you? I am sensing that you are using this so called statistical data according to your best ability but with some impairment.
Cibaeno75 said.......
-But estimates that fall within pre-established guidelines as set by the US Census Bureau are used to determine an approximate number of illegals for any said group.-

- By the way, you are mixing up things, the decennial Census is not there to identify who is illegal or legal.... You're way off
Written by: mannyberrios, 20 Jun 2013 4:10 PM
From: United States
In Puerto Rico, there is about 300,000
Written by: cibaeño75, 20 Jun 2013 4:15 PM
From: United States, New York City
No. You're way off claiming that illegal Dominicans outnumber the legal ones here in the states. There is nothing to back up your assertion other than your say so. And as for dickhead..I guess it would take to know one. I know not if such things.

migrationpolicy.org/pubs/mpi_report_dominican_pop_us.pdf

That's a report that references US Census Bureau info from the 2000 Census. In it you will find that the number of illegal Dominicans cited is approximately 13%, slightly higher than the number I cited but nowhere near your allusion to illegals being a substantial portion of Dominicans residing in American territory.
Written by: Adamo123, 20 Jun 2013 5:35 PM
From: United States
I never said that for a certainty.... eeeee the last Census was 2010....that number is not valid. the 2000 data can not hold there...a lot had happened in ten years in terms of migration. Read this again..take your time ok..no rush
I said --And ten percent of what population you are talking about or do you meant to say 10 percent of the documented group. 10 percent of the latter would not be truthful, you should probably well say there is none if you think there isn't 150000 undocumented Dominicains in the United states, In Puerto Rico alone there is about as much...
I was referring to 10% of 1.5 million and I said this is absurd to think so. There should be more than 150 thousand undocumented Dominicans in the US....this could not be 10 percent of the US population, as you know Dominican headcount on this planet is less than the 10 percent of the US population. FYI ... In Puerto Rico alone there are above 200K Dominicans living there and among them 68000 are legal or US citizen.
Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 20 Jun 2013 10:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NOR FORSAKEN!
Adamo, why are you such a bitter Haitiano?
Does it bother you that we have mayors, judges, state senators, college professors, business people all over the USA?

PS

We also have a good share of bad Apples like everybody else.

Stop hating son.
Written by: Danilo, 21 Jun 2013 2:06 AM
From: Dominican Republic, SDQ --- VIGILADOR.COM (Beta) - Vigilando nuestra Quisqueya
Adamo just wants to drag us down with his people. Sorry to disappoint you, we don't sink that easily, we try hard to stay afloat.
Written by: telemeco, 21 Jun 2013 7:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
Adamo es Haitiano,,,hable en espanol para que repondar en france
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 8:08 AM
From: United States
I am not and there is nothing wrong with being Haitian. If I were I would be a proud one for in life I probably have much success than a lot of Dominicans that are dogging Haiti.
@DONT_BE_SILENT
And the list goes on to add 'drug dealers, prostitutes, criminals, thieves and so forth'/ By the way, where I come from Dominican Republic can't compete with that nation. Don't even go there! I can tell you that up front, You cannot compete with us so well , that a lot of your sisters are working there as 'putas' . We also give them licenses to do their job freely too.
Written by: Arcangel96, 21 Jun 2013 8:27 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Adamo123,
Not for nothing Adamo123, but what makes you think that there are more illegal Dominicans than the actual legal Dominican residents in USA? If you were referring to Puerto Rico, then I would byte your theory. However, mainline USA, is a totally different ball game altogether for obvious reasons. In other words, we don't share a land boundary like Mexico and the distance between DR - USA makes it impossible to traffic people in "yolas". Which leave us with the only other form to get to USA...taking a plane. Perhaps, what you are referring is the number of Dominicans that have over-extended their stay while traveling with a tourist visa. But tourist visas are very hard to obtain.
Written by: danny00, 21 Jun 2013 10:35 AM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
He's any one counted the Dominicans at Rikers Island and the jails in upstate New York? ... Xxxx.......When this is done the numbers will rise.
Written by: danny00, 21 Jun 2013 10:36 AM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
Hey! Now don't be upset with my comment I didn't put them in jail they put their wise-Ass in their themselves.
Written by: Arcangel96, 21 Jun 2013 11:13 AM
From: Dominican Republic
From the same report....

"Poverty status. The share of Dominicans who live in poverty, 28%, is higher than the rate for the general U.S. population (16%) and slightly higher than the rate for Hispanics overall (26%)."

"Educational attainment. Dominicans have higher levels of education than the Hispanic population overall but lower levels than the U.S. population overall. Some 16% of Dominicans ages 25 and older—compared with 13% of all U.S. Hispanics and 29% among the entire U.S. population—have obtained at least a bachelor’s degree"

read more at...
pewhispanic.org/2013/06/19/hispanics-of-dominican-origin-in-the-united-states-2011/
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 11:18 AM
From: United States
@Arcangel96

I hinted that 10% or 1.5millions is too low, I never said with 100% certainty that there is more illegal. Here is what I said "I won't be surprised if there are more undoc than doc. No one will ever know that number" , and it seems to get most of you offended...right.
By the way, let me share this with you. Before 9/11/2001, here is the game that the Dominicans were playing. They could come to the states on a multiple visa entry, which at times is valid for 10 years though each trip bears a 6 months length . But what they do, they will come and stay for a year , 2 or more, but when they go back to DR at the airport, they bribe the immigration agent who in turn back dated the return date to a posterior date so it could fall within the 6 months requirements.
So as long the passport has a valid stamped no one was in violation. But after 9/11 things had changed since the airlines had to share the list of passengers leaving the country to TSA. To be continued......
Written by: Arcangel96, 21 Jun 2013 11:19 AM
From: Dominican Republic
erased...duplicate posting.
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 11:39 AM
From: United States
As a result, that creates a lot of illegal immigrants, because once those who went home to DR and had their passport back stamped got arrested at JFK or Miami customs on their return trip to the states. Words start to spread out and most of the people who extended their stay, knowing that the old trick does not work anymore and that they are going to get caught and deported back to DR ,then most of them decided to stay put for they were going to loose their visa for overstaying. Guess what, at that time the DR quota for the tourist and business visa for a year was about 200000 and 20000 for permanent residents. Tell me how many out of the 200000 did overstay their visa, just multiply that number time X number of years from 1990 up to 2002. You and I won't know that number but uncle Sam does. The immigration changes that came with 9/11 were really a game changer for you guys. This is not hearsay, if you are Dominican you know exactly what am I talking about?
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 11:49 AM
From: United States
@Arcangel96
Once you overstay your visa and did not get an extension that was approved by the INS you automatically ran the red light....it is an infraction...Your 10 years visa will be cancelled unless you can prove that there were circumstances beyond your control that led to that, such as medical reasons or etc.....Believe me on your next trip back, they will take it away from you. A 10 years visa does not mean that you can stay for a period of 10 years in just one trip.
Written by: cibaeño75, 21 Jun 2013 12:45 PM
From: United States, New York City
Adamos, indeed the paper I cited referenced an older census but it was based on something solid nonetheless, something more tangible than anything you have provided, which is nothing save heresay. Carry on.
Written by: Arcangel96, 21 Jun 2013 1:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Adamo,
Is not a question of being Dominican or not. The problem is that you are making too many assumption to back your theory, without showing any facts. Let me explain, first you are assuming that within the period of 1990 until 2000, the US immigration office only checked entries/exist from/to the US by checking the exit/entry stamps in the passport. This is too simplistic. Wouldn't you thing that Uncle Sam will have an interest in knowing who enters and leaves the country at any point in time. In other words, wouldn't they keep track of passports and visas used to enter and exit the US.

Second, you are also assuming that all visas allotted to Dominicans, year after year, are directly equivalent to people overstaying in US. Wouldn't that send a red flag everywhere? Wouldn't the US goverment take some kind of measures to prevent this? like decreasing the amount of allotted visas perhaps.

Again, the case you provided is conceivable but highly unlikely when scaled up.
Written by: tartesos, 21 Jun 2013 3:23 PM
From: United States
Adamo got his heart and A$$ broken by a dominican, and now wants to take it out on the whole nation. Dont hate us all, we are not all as bad as your last boyfriend.

If you claim your country is so much better than ours, just say its name, and I will give you a list of Putas, drug deales etc that come from it too, and most likely bigger than ours.

Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 3:54 PM
From: United States
By the way, the airlines are required to send the name and other info to TSA. And this for both entry/exit points no matter what your citizenship or no matter who you are and this has started after 2001. I used 1990 to 2000 to extrapolate just to have a broad sense of how many Dominicans did enter on a tourist visa since at that time they were granting about 200000 tourist visas a year to DR. My point is that, by the time we get to 2002 there will be a big number of Dominicans that were taking a free ride with this practice to meet the 6 months requirements. Not all of them had used that trick but it was very common and I can tell you that that practice had stopped once they start to collect info to keep track of when you enter and when you leave. This works well for it had stopped that practice for every country that used the back dated ruse to fool US customs. you are putting words in my mouth, I never said every Dominican overstayed their trip...but it was common practice.
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 4:07 PM
From: United States
Yes, before 9/11 they were only checking for time stamp on your passport because they trusted the customs of the country of origin to do the right thing. Even they have the data, they did not bother checking every one, and the airlines were not obligated to provide the list of passengers to TSA, because they trusted your customs. I seen that all the time in Las Americas airport in the 90's., like the agent on duty receiving bribe to put a different entry date on the passport. This was not happening only with DR , it was across the board in the third world countries and the likes of Haiti.. Nowadays, they have computer system designed, ready and available on site to check you upon entering the US. You can't lie to them. You can't really fool the system anymore.
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 4:24 PM
From: United States
@tartesos
straight no chaser!!!
You have nothing going on for you guys, no envy at all. I can tell you that your customs have been very successful at fooling US customs with this practice. I witnessed it first hand, years ago I used to hang out with Dominicans too in the past... and they bragged about getting stamped once they got home.
Written by: Arcangel96, 21 Jun 2013 5:35 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Adamo,

If memory serves me well, still in the 90's you were suppose to fill-out Form I-94 (Arrival-Departure Record) and surrender the departure portion of it upon departure. Plus your machine readable passport was always swipe/scan through a machine (maybe IBIS/APIS). It would send all kinds of red flags to the custom agent if his/her computer shows several entries and no departures. Like I said is conceivable, but unlikely, specially if the port of entry was using the IBIS/APIS system at the time. I think this scam would have been pretty popular if the custom agent was unable to obtain the entry/exit records of an individual upon showing up at his station. Perhaps the 70's? maybe 80's?
Written by: IloveDR, 21 Jun 2013 6:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
As compared to Mexicans us Dominicans outnumber the amount of documented people, percentage wise, including having college degrees of above 2 years, at 1/4 of the total Dominican American pop.
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 7:05 PM
From: United States
@Arcangel96
Don't argue something that you don't know Ok.....Back in 2000, going to DR in the company of a few friends. One of them was dating a Dominican girl and at checking the agent asked the lady for the departure form that she needed to present at the ticket counter while leaving the country. She replied that she did not have it oh oh oh by the way ,that was probably the other piece of documentation that stated when you entered the country and that was probably what they were using at the time to keep track of when you leave the country. Guess what, she was checked with no other questions asked. Loosing that form would not stop you from leaving USA, so people knew that and they took advantage of it.. That same lady when she got to DR, bribed the agent to back dated the return date on the passport. Right in my face, this is not hearsay.....i freaking witnessed it with my own eyes.
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 7:29 PM
From: United States
I@loveDR

You are possibly referring to the Dominican born in the states,,,,,when it comes to native Dominican who migrate to the states in their late teens or early 20's nowadays, we should say some of them believe in furthering their education. not all of them...they could be here for 20 years and still can't speak English. They would not even learn to speak English maybe they are hoping the US would someday change the national dialect from English to Spanish.When it comes to those who come to the states in their late 20's and up forget about it. Though I would agree that the new generation of Dominicans living abroad provide some bright kids too.
Written by: Arcangel96, 21 Jun 2013 8:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Adamo123,
Again, you are extrapolating your anecdote, to back up your theory. This is what you said, "I won't be surprised if there are more undoc than doc." In other words, another 1.5 million Dominicans resided in USA illegally thanks to this dubious scam. Plus, you hinted that this kind of scam stopped after 9/11 because of the computers system that were put in place. Let me tell you something, a system like that is custom made. It is not bought at an apple store. It takes years to develop and deploy successfully. So, let us say the current system was done and operational in 3yrs (2004). So, from 2004 until the 2010 census, wouldn't those illegal immigrants found a way to legalize their status? ...like getting married to a citizen. Your theory does not take into account that illegal Dominicans might have formalize their status, in US, in time for the 2010 census. Very few stay illegally their whole life.
Written by: Adamo123, 21 Jun 2013 11:58 PM
From: United States
Again, after you read something, ask someone else to explain to you what you have just read. You have a very limited mind. By the way, don't touch the subject of information technology because that is how I am making my living for the past 18 yrs. Start thinking out of the box. For your info, I have a lot friends that I know for years and that are still illegal here. I never said that once you are illegal that you will die illegal, this is just an invention of your imagination. By the same token, I have a lot if not most of them whom have gained legal status in this time span. Tell me, when someone says after 9/11, does that mean 9/12.....You're funny. Stay in touch with your surroundings, don't you realize that the date of 9/11 has been used as a compass to refer to anything related to security and changes that it brought to our way of living whether it has happened 5 years later. Dammit! Time to think out of the box pal.
Written by: Danilo, 22 Jun 2013 3:04 AM
From: Dominican Republic, SDQ --- VIGILADOR.COM (Beta) - Vigilando nuestra Quisqueya
After reading all those posts I realized something, Adamo es un baboso! Why are you guys even paying attention to someone with "stories"? Facts and numbers are what matter.
Written by: Adamo123, 22 Jun 2013 5:13 AM
From: United States
And what about Danilo the moron! AH,,,,,
Written by: Grosero, 22 Jun 2013 7:26 AM
From: United States
1.5 million Dominicans live in the U.S.?

hmmm?

You might want to re-count Miami - !
Written by: Arcangel96, 22 Jun 2013 10:28 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Adamo123,

My friend don't be mad at me for pointing out the flaws in your theory. In the future, just be prepared to defend your arguments with facts, not just anecdotes and ad hominem. Otherwise, people will not take you seriously.
Written by: venganzaderafael, 24 Jun 2013 1:46 AM
From: United States
So where are you from Adamo, since you deny being hatian? Not that there is anything wrong in being
Haitian, just being haitian illegally in DR.
Written by: venganzaderafael, 24 Jun 2013 1:47 AM
From: United States
So where are you from Adamo that DR can't compare to? Since you deny being Haitian? Nothing wrong with that unless you are commenting while being haitian illegally in DR.
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jun 2013 1:34 PM
From: United States
Ven;

If you are looking for employment in the states ...bring a resume along if you have one, I can surely put you back to work and out of that corner street in front of that bodega.
DR is not that visible on the atlas map......it takes a mosquito to top it in order to find it unwillingly. That would be TMI to divulge my PI to you if what you see online is not enough. But, use your brain, where I am from, we employ a lot of your sisters and we grant them licenses to practice lawfully. (tips: they can't go there by cars nor with those coralinas that land them to Puerto Rico....they will have to fly or sail for hours)
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jun 2013 1:41 PM
From: United States
Nothing that I have said in this forum is untrue.... if you are a true Dominican you should be well aware of this aforementioned practice... to deny it, you are only fooling yourself. To do you a favor, I will stop talking about the dirty laundry. Fair enough!
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