| #1 - Posted 5 May 2009, 12:37 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: May 2009 Member #: 2629 Posts: 18 | RD fea pa' la foto Relatively new to this forum, I’ve been taken aback by the ideas it promotes and the language commentators use to express themselves, often under aliases. My first comment yesterday was to address a topic with the very offensive title the “Disgusting Haitian Elite”, it’s too bad moderators allow such a derogatory title. Yet some commentators are surprised not to find Haitians with whom to exchange ideas, with such topics it’s really no wonder. It’s a mud slinging contest, explained one commentator, once you enter be prepared. Haitian children born in the DR shouldn’t have access to education! If that’s not a recipe for a major problem in 10 years when they have no skills or way to make a living, I wonder what is. Where does all of this lead? Send them all back home! Build a wall! Let’s get a mob in fury to chop off their heads and scare them all into leaving! The end result is that newspaper titles over the world comment people being decapitated in Santo Domingo in broad daylight… Authorities have yet to arrest those responsible for this criminal public act. Somehow the notion that nothing good comes from Haiti permeates the thinking of the Haitian haters in this forum. Yet, when the Dominican gov’t cracks down on illegal farm workers and sends them home. Dominican agricultural associations protest they will have to close their farms. If Haitian construction workers were to leave the construction industry would be paralyzed. Haitian students in the Dominican university system, public or private, are well-known for their excellence and their capacity to obtain the best grades… And sometimes even in Spanish, commented the Dominican doctor at Cabarete Hospital, alumni of UASD in the capital. Yet the mud slinging must continue, let’s ignore the facts. Everywhere leaders are talking about partnership, but here we must beware re-unification. All Haitians would invade! Haitians are a nation of immigrants, yes; most of us living on Kiskeya trace our origins back to a boat. We leave our home to find a better future in other lands and want the best for our children. We thrive in host societies where we have been given opportunities to contribute; USA, Canada, Europe and Africa are among the places where Haitian doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, journalists, desgners, writers, and artists have left their positive mark. In reality, many Haitians choose NOT to come here, mainly because of the unpleasant and sometimes dangerous xenophobia. Every day they travel legally and illegally to other parts of the world. Many Haitians also chose to be here legally and to do so purchase expensive visas and residence permits. I live here, and I think it’s time Dominicans stop teaching their children that it’s OK for a mob to grab a person and execute them in the middle of street because he’s Haitian. Edited on 5/5/2009 12:38 PM by lakiskeyana. |
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| #2 - Posted 5 May 2009, 3:26 PM | |
Location: United States, Boston, MA Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1466 Posts: 3374 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Quote: lakiskeyana previously said: Relatively new to this forum, I’ve been taken aback by the ideas it promotes and the language commentators use to express themselves, often under aliases. My first comment yesterday was to address a topic with the very offensive title the “Disgusting Haitian Elite”, it’s too bad moderators allow such a derogatory title. Yet some commentators are surprised not to find Haitians with whom to exchange ideas, with such topics it’s really no wonder. It’s a mud slinging contest, explained one commentator, once you enter be prepared. Haitian children born in the DR shouldn’t have access to education! If that’s not a recipe for a major problem in 10 years when they have no skills or way to make a living, I wonder what is. Where does all of this lead? Send them all back home! Build a wall! Let’s get a mob in fury to chop off their heads and scare them all into leaving! The end result is that newspaper titles over the world comment people being decapitated in Santo Domingo in broad daylight… Authorities have yet to arrest those responsible for this criminal public act. Somehow the notion that nothing good comes from Haiti permeates the thinking of the Haitian haters in this forum. Yet, when the Dominican gov’t cracks down on illegal farm workers and sends them home. Dominican agricultural associations protest they will have to close their farms. If Haitian construction workers were to leave the construction industry would be paralyzed. Haitian students in the Dominican university system, public or private, are well-known for their excellence and their capacity to obtain the best grades… And sometimes even in Spanish, commented the Dominican doctor at Cabarete Hospital, alumni of UASD in the capital. Yet the mud slinging must continue, let’s ignore the facts. Everywhere leaders are talking about partnership, but here we must beware re-unification. All Haitians would invade! Haitians are a nation of immigrants, yes; most of us living on Kiskeya trace our origins back to a boat. We leave our home to find a better future in other lands and want the best for our children. We thrive in host societies where we have been given opportunities to contribute; USA, Canada, Europe and Africa are among the places where Haitian doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, journalists, desgners, writers, and artists have left their positive mark. In reality, many Haitians choose NOT to come here, mainly because of the unpleasant and sometimes dangerous xenophobia. Every day they travel legally and illegally to other parts of the world. Many Haitians also chose to be here legally and to do so purchase expensive visas and residence permits. I live here, and I think it’s time Dominicans stop teaching their children that it’s OK for a mob to grab a person and execute them in the middle of street because he’s Haitian. Kiskeyana, The problems that Haitians face in Haiti is the Haitian govenment's fault, not the Dominican's. It is the Haitian government's responsibility for their people, not the Dominicans! The Dominicans do not have the obligation for Haitian needs, if they are legal residing in the DR, yes, but if illegal, it's Haiti's responsibility. If they choose not to migrate to the DR, that's cool with us for we do not FORCE them to go there illegally. You say they choose not to go to the DR, yet there are 2 million and counting residing legally and illegally. This does not mean that I am for mistreatment or killing, it's a matter of their own responsibility. Now the thread "DISGUISTING HAITIAN ELITE" was made for the sole purpose to get the Haitian government to take care of its people and not make them migrate not just to the DR, but to many other countries who receive massive Haitian migrations. Edited on 5/5/2009 3:27 PM by Eriliza. |
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| #3 - Posted 5 May 2009, 4:20 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: May 2009 Member #: 2629 Posts: 18 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Never asked you to take responsibility for Haitians problems in Haiti. According to the lastest figures published by RD, a conservative estimate situates the Haitian population at six hundred thousand. (OIM, FLACSO Encuesta sobre inmigrantes Haitianos en RD) Quote: I live here, and I think it’s time Dominicans stop teaching their children that it’s OK for a mob to grab a person and execute them in the middle of street because he’s Haitian. I asked you take responsabiity for your criminals, and try transmitting values, such as "respect for human life", to your children. Now you say, a topic created on a forum in a Domincan newspaper pretends to tell the Haitian gov't what to do, and for that reason was purposely made offensive... I'm not sure I get it. |
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| #4 - Posted 5 May 2009, 4:35 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2764 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Quote: lakiskeyana previously said: Never asked you to take responsibility for Haitians problems in Haiti. According to the lastest figures published by RD, a conservative estimate situates the Haitian population at six hundred thousand. (OIM, FLACSO Encuesta sobre inmigrantes Haitianos en RD) Quote: I live here, and I think it’s time Dominicans stop teaching their children that it’s OK for a mob to grab a person and execute them in the middle of street because he’s Haitian. I asked you take responsabiity for your criminals, and try transmitting values, such as "respect for human life", to your children. Now you say, a topic created on a forum in a Domincan newspaper pretends to tell the Haitian gov't what to do, and for that reason was purposely made offensive... I'm not sure I get it. Since when do parents teach their Dominican children that it's okay for a mob to grab a person and execute them... PLEASE TELL ME... Are you Dominican and your parents told you that you should join a mob when they see someone getting beat up???? HELP ME HERE AM LOST!!! Why don't you save that advice for the Haitians... But i know you won't. Your bias judgement on our people and what they, according to you, they teach their children tell me exacly who you are! Edited on 5/5/2009 4:38 PM by CarlosFranco. |
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| #5 - Posted 5 May 2009, 4:35 PM | |
Location: United States, Seattle, W.A. Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 3423 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto [QUOTE=lakiskeyana] Never asked you to take responsibility for Haitians problems in Haiti.[QUOTE] So you mean you never said to provide education and evrything which by the way will encourage all others to come in. How about we provide for the people we are suppose to provide and they provide for their own people. [QUOTE=lakiskeyana] According to the lastest figures published by RD, a conservative estimate situates the Haitian population at six hundred thousand. (OIM, FLACSO Encuesta sobre inmigrantes Haitianos en RD)[QUOTE] You really believe that there is only 600,000 wow maybe you have to go around the country and see for your self. [QUOTE=lakiskeyana] I asked you take responsabiity for your criminals, and try transmitting values, such as "respect for human life", to your children. [QUOTE] So in your mind the Haitians killing his ex-boss and wounding another person was fine but killing him was a criminal act and against human rights. wow what school of double standards did you go to. [QUOTE=lakiskeyana] Now you say, a topic created on a forum in a Domincan newspaper pretends to tell the Haitian gov't what to do, and for that reason was purposely made offensive... I'm not sure I get it. [QUOTE] Many topics are created in this site good and bad but thats the beauty of freedom of speech. Maybe you have to stop picking the things that fit the purpose you want and just look at all of it. Please stop contradicting your self in your own post. [/QUOTE] Edited on 5/5/2009 4:36 PM by Belly. "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs" |
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| #6 - Posted 5 May 2009, 5:13 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 887 Posts: 1577 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Lakiskeyana, do you really live in Dominican Republic? Mentioning only 600,000 Haitians is not a mistake, it is something more. Quote: lakiskeyana previously said: According to the lastest figures published by RD, a conservative estimate situates the Haitian population at six hundred thousand. (OIM, FLACSO Encuesta sobre inmigrantes Haitianos en RD) Quote: PeRod previously said: Caonabohayti, this is for your own source: Nobody knows how many Haitians and Haitian-descended Dominicans are living and working in the Dominican Republic. Estimates vary from the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) figure of 500,000–700,000 in 1999… Migration in the Caribbean: Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Beyond By James Ferguson Are you using a number from 1999 ten years after that –we are in 2009–? I told you, you are a quite decent Haitian, but not an honest Haitian. |
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| #7 - Posted 5 May 2009, 5:53 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5728 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Quote: PeRod previously said: Lakiskeyana, do you really live in Dominican Republic? Mentioning only 600,000 Haitians is not a mistake, it is something more. Quote: lakiskeyana previously said: According to the lastest figures published by RD, a conservative estimate situates the Haitian population at six hundred thousand. (OIM, FLACSO Encuesta sobre inmigrantes Haitianos en RD) Quote: PeRod previously said: Caonabohayti, this is for your own source: Nobody knows how many Haitians and Haitian-descended Dominicans are living and working in the Dominican Republic. Estimates vary from the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) figure of 500,000–700,000 in 1999… Migration in the Caribbean: Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Beyond By James Ferguson Are you using a number from 1999 ten years after that –we are in 2009–? I told you, you are a quite decent Haitian, but not an honest Haitian. That something more is called "dishonesty" on my book. Only in the capital alone there must be a million among street peddlers, beggars, construction workers and the like. If you don't believe me, just take a walk on the city, and tell me what your eyes and ears tell you. Edited on 5/5/2009 5:57 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #8 - Posted 5 May 2009, 6:22 PM | |
Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3390 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Quote: lakiskeyana previously said: Relatively new to this forum, I’ve been taken aback by the ideas it promotes and the language commentators use to express themselves, often under aliases. My first comment yesterday was to address a topic with the very offensive title the “Disgusting Haitian Elite”, it’s too bad moderators allow such a derogatory title. Yet some commentators are surprised not to find Haitians with whom to exchange ideas, with such topics it’s really no wonder. It’s a mud slinging contest, explained one commentator, once you enter be prepared. Haitian children born in the DR shouldn’t have access to education! If that’s not a recipe for a major problem in 10 years when they have no skills or way to make a living, I wonder what is. Where does all of this lead? Send them all back home! Build a wall! Let’s get a mob in fury to chop off their heads and scare them all into leaving! The end result is that newspaper titles over the world comment people being decapitated in Santo Domingo in broad daylight… Authorities have yet to arrest those responsible for this criminal public act. Somehow the notion that nothing good comes from Haiti permeates the thinking of the Haitian haters in this forum. Yet, when the Dominican gov’t cracks down on illegal farm workers and sends them home. Dominican agricultural associations protest they will have to close their farms. If Haitian construction workers were to leave the construction industry would be paralyzed. Haitian students in the Dominican university system, public or private, are well-known for their excellence and their capacity to obtain the best grades… And sometimes even in Spanish, commented the Dominican doctor at Cabarete Hospital, alumni of UASD in the capital. Yet the mud slinging must continue, let’s ignore the facts. Everywhere leaders are talking about partnership, but here we must beware re-unification. All Haitians would invade! Haitians are a nation of immigrants, yes; most of us living on Kiskeya trace our origins back to a boat. We leave our home to find a better future in other lands and want the best for our children. We thrive in host societies where we have been given opportunities to contribute; USA, Canada, Europe and Africa are among the places where Haitian doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, journalists, desgners, writers, and artists have left their positive mark. In reality, many Haitians choose NOT to come here, mainly because of the unpleasant and sometimes dangerous xenophobia. Every day they travel legally and illegally to other parts of the world. Many Haitians also chose to be here legally and to do so purchase expensive visas and residence permits. I live here, and I think it’s time Dominicans stop teaching their children that it’s OK for a mob to grab a person and execute them in the middle of street because he’s Haitian. You did not even bother to look at all the work I've done...You truly know nothing about me. Nice cheap shot! |
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| #9 - Posted 5 May 2009, 6:26 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Quote: lakiskeyana previously said: Relatively new to this forum, I’ve been taken aback by the ideas it promotes and the language commentators use to express themselves, often under aliases. My first comment yesterday was to address a topic with the very offensive title the “Disgusting Haitian Elite”, it’s too bad moderators allow such a derogatory title. Yet some commentators are surprised not to find Haitians with whom to exchange ideas, with such topics it’s really no wonder. It’s a mud slinging contest, explained one commentator, once you enter be prepared. Haitian children born in the DR shouldn’t have access to education! If that’s not a recipe for a major problem in 10 years when they have no skills or way to make a living, I wonder what is. Where does all of this lead? Send them all back home! Build a wall! Let’s get a mob in fury to chop off their heads and scare them all into leaving! The end result is that newspaper titles over the world comment people being decapitated in Santo Domingo in broad daylight… Authorities have yet to arrest those responsible for this criminal public act. Somehow the notion that nothing good comes from Haiti permeates the thinking of the Haitian rs in this forum. Yet, when the Dominican gov’t down on illegal farm workers and sends them home. Dominican agricultural associations protest they will have to close their farms. If Haitian construction workers were to leave the construction industry would be paralyzed. Haitian students in the Dominican university system, public or private, are well-known for their excellence and their capacity to obtain the best grades… And sometimes even in Spanish, commented the Dominican doctor at Cabarete Hospital, alumni of UASD in the capital. Yet the mud slinging must continue, let’s ignore the facts. Everywhere leaders are talking about partnership, but here we must beware re-unification. All Haitians would invade! Haitians are a nation of immigrants, yes; most of us living on Kiskeya trace our origins back to a boat. We leave our home to find a better future in other lands and want the best for our children. We thrive in host societies where we have been given opportunities to contribute; USA, Canada, Europe and Africa are among the places where Haitian doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, journalists, desgners, writers, and artists have left their positive mark. In reality, many Haitians choose NOT to come here, mainly because of the unpleasant and sometimes dangerous xenophobia. Every day they travel legally and illegally to other parts of the world. Many Haitians also chose to be here legally and to do so purchase expensive visas and residence permits. I live here, and I think it’s time Dominicans stop teaching their children that it’s OK for a mob to grab a person and execute them in the middle of street because he’s Haitian. You are an amazingly smart woman and quite articulate. Most on here are here for the sole purpose of promoting h8tred yet they also try to hide behind the excuses of placing blames rather than talking about better relations on the entire Island. You have expressed my thoughts preciselly down to the very doted i's and crossed t's mami. Thank yo so much!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #10 - Posted 5 May 2009, 6:35 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284 | RE: RD fea pa' la foto Quote: Belly previously said: Please stop contradicting your self in your own post. Once again Belly, it is not so much the semantical argument to look at. Rather it is the multi-false premisehood that many seem to hold close and dear as values to their hearts by promoting h8tred instead of peace on here. Okay let us say her number is off, point is it is a fact that many have blown out of proportion the actual number of illegals in DR simply to justifying further their discriminative campaign of h8tred they have towards Haiti and Haitians and expect for many of those who are Haitians to simply sit by and let those claims go unconstested. I am going to keep repeating this. WHEN WAS THE TIME EVER HAD DR DEMONIZED SPAINS AND OTHER EUROPEAN CONQUISTADORS BY ERRECTING A THREAD FOR THEIR ILL-DOINGS? Indeed, not once since I have been on here on this forum. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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