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#101 - Posted 20 April 2009, 9:44 AM
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Moyse.
Do you love or Hate Haiti?
Now think from your heart before you answer this question and really tell me the truth i won't hold anything against you.
Belly51.


Belly51, my dear friend Belly51, what kind of question is that one?
Of course he loves Haiti, all of them love Haiti. He is not going to move one finger for helping Haiti but he loves Haiti.
His country is a mess but he does not care about it,that is not “his” problem, somebody else can resolve that situation, but he loves Haiti.
The greatest epidemic in Haiti is not AIDS, or syphilis, or tuberculosis, or malaria it is irresponsibility and naturally he is infected too, but he loves Haiti, that’s for sure.


Yeah, the greatest epidemic in Haiti is 'irresponsibility...' Who's responsible for increasing poverty of the people in the DR, who's responsible for the increased number of jailed teenagers in the DR, who's responsible for increased corruption in your government..etc? It seems to me irresponsibility has infected the whole island. Who in the world can save our island from this irresponsible epidemic?
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#102 - Posted 20 April 2009, 9:46 AM
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Moyle, you are just another Haitian braggart.
There is no any important information in any of your posts. There is garbage only garbage in them.
Keep saying all what you want. I am happy to see that you are going to die fighting with persons with the level you can find here. We promised you a good funeral, so good that nobody is going to notice that there is a dog inside the coffin.
Haiti is really bad but without the Dominican Republic’s help nobody could control the Haiti’s situation. Without us, you are nothing; it is as simple as that.
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#103 - Posted 20 April 2009, 10:01 AM
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Leave the future of Haiti to Haitians. NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, OK!
Caonabohayti.


That would be the case if they were men in Haiti, but there are only a few over there (and none is in this forum yet).
The majority of Haitians are completely incompetent for the complicated task of building a new Haiti. There is no courage in those people that is quietly waiting for their final day looking how Haiti is going down on a daily basis.
We need to find the real men in Haiti (the few real men), we need to talk with them about a common agenda that respect the interests of the two parts and we need to help them in their mission.
I will say it again: IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HARMONY IN THIS ISLAND WITHOUT A PROSPEROUS HAITI.
We cannot leave the future of Haiti to Haitians; without our help they are nothing.


You must be the new 'ALICE IN WONDERLAND'. You need to stop dreaming, come back to Earth and meet reality in the DR to look at the dire living conditions of the Dominican People. You are nobody to tell Haitians anything. WE DO NOT NEED YOUR HELP!
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#104 - Posted 20 April 2009, 12:30 PM
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I would like a Haitian to answer me this: what would you do without us nowadays?
We need Haitians but they need us much more.
Why do we need them? Because we are using their cheap labor but we can regularize the use of that cheap labor and then we are not going to have in our country six more Haitians that are not an active part of our labor market. And even more, we can do without using that cheap labor at all as any other country in Latin American does. Cuba, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Argentina, and all the others Latin American countries do not use that cheap labor. We can do the same thing and go ahead with our own labor. Perhaps we are going to need some machinery because we have a cultural problem: Dominicans do not like certain “Haitian’s tasks” but we can handle that.
And Haiti, what is going to do Haiti without our support in fields like health, education and space for the worst migration in this world? What is going to do Haiti without the products they get in our country in advantageous conditions? What is going to do Haiti if we give then back their cheap labor?
Haiti is a social bomb and it has not exploded because of our help.
Come on, I want to hear some decent and honest Haitian: what would you do without us nowadays?
(And yes, you can say: “Thank you very much, Dominican Republic! It would be a miracle –something incredible indeed– but miracles happen).
Edited on 4/20/2009 12:32 PM by PeRod.
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#105 - Posted 20 April 2009, 1:30 PM
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I would like a Haitian to answer me this: what would you do without us nowadays?
We need Haitians but they need us much more.
Why do we need them? Because we are using their cheap labor but we can regularize the use of that cheap labor and then we are not going to have in our country six more Haitians that are not an active part of our labor market. And even more, we can do without using that cheap labor at all as any other country in Latin American does. Cuba, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Venezuela, Argentina, and all the others Latin American countries do not use that cheap labor. We can do the same thing and go ahead with our own labor. Perhaps we are going to need some machinery because we have a cultural problem: Dominicans do not like certain “Haitian’s tasks” but we can handle that.
And Haiti, what is going to do Haiti without our support in fields like health, education and space for the worst migration in this world? What is going to do Haiti without the products they get in our country in advantageous conditions? What is going to do Haiti if we give then back their cheap labor?
Haiti is a social bomb and it has not exploded because of our help.
Come on, I want to hear some decent and honest Haitian: what would you do without us nowadays?
(And yes, you can say: “Thank you very much, Dominican Republic! It would be a miracle –something incredible indeed– but miracles happen).


PeRod, you have a way of flipping the coin on your preferred side each time. That's called 'cheating'. You must really think we are dumb. Look at this picture, in your mind, if you can: 1) You need our cheap labor to build your wealth 2) You zap U.S.$800 million annually from trades with Haiti 3) You use the presence of Haitian Immigrant Workers in the DR to boost your ego by your dehumanizing treatment of them there 4) the rotten Haitian elite robs Haiti to pay for their children to attend school in the DR. You need us more than we need you, smarty. You want us to say 'Thank you'? All right then...Thank you DR for needing us Haitians so much to get you on the road to some level of development! There you are! HAPPY NOW?
Edited on 4/20/2009 1:31 PM by Caonabohayti.
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#106 - Posted 20 April 2009, 2:04 PM
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Caonabohayti. I was asking for a decent and honest Haitian and beyond any doubt you are a decent person but you are not honest. It is so hard for you (and for all the Haitians) to see your reality that you prefer ignore it even if you are not going to be honest as a consequence. “Cheating’ is what you always do.
We built this nation without any Haitian help. Our problem with the Haitian immigration started in the 70’s in the last century. In 1937, as you must remember, Haitians were significantly removed from our country and until Trujillo’s death in 1961 their presence in our side was totally under control. Before 1937 there were working basically in the sugar industry for American capitals. I am not ‘cheating’, that is the truth.
If any country in Latin American can work without the Haitian cheap labor, why do you think that we cannot? You do not know these people of mine; you do not know these people of mine. Of course they are not going to cut sugar cane or to prick in rocks (those are Haitian’s works for them) but with the appropriated machinery we can resolve that problem.
Haiti is one of our international clients, that is true, but Haitians buy our products because it is a good business for them. If some of our products, for any reason, is not of convenience for Haiti they do not buy it. Even more, your people do not have any mercy with us, as all of us could see with the problem about our poultry products. You buy our products because you are not going to find our conditions in any other place and when that is not the case it does not matter if you are going to destroy one of our national industries, you do not buy.
If some day you see the presence of your children in our public schools and in our public hospitals you will see how wrong you are when you say that “the rotten Haitian elite robs Haiti to pay for their children to attend school in the DR”.
The Nile was and is the blessing of Egypt. Dominican Republic was and is the blessing of Haiti.
Edited on 4/20/2009 2:10 PM by PeRod.
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#107 - Posted 20 April 2009, 2:51 PM
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Dominican Republic was and is the blessing of Haiti.
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PeR... WISHFUL THINKING IS CHEAP...IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS! KEEP ON DREAMING!
Edited on 4/20/2009 2:53 PM by Caonabohayti.
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#108 - Posted 20 April 2009, 3:23 PM
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How can you deny that. Without the DR most Haitians would be dying and taking non-stop boat trips to Miami, Cuba, Turk and Caicos, the Bahamas. It's a blessing to have DR next door. When you cross the border, Haitians land in MIami!!

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Dominican Republic was and is the blessing of Haiti.
by PeRod
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PeR... [B]WISHFUL THINKING IS CHEAP...IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS! KEEP ON DREAMING![/B]

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#109 - Posted 20 April 2009, 4:19 PM
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Caonabohayti, see what I say. You are quite decent but you are not honest at all.
Well, I am a man with patience. Here I go again:
“Come on, I want to hear some decent and honest Haitian: what would you do without us nowadays?
(And yes, you can say: “Thank you very much, Dominican Republic! It would be a miracle –something incredible indeed– but miracles happen).”

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#110 - Posted 20 April 2009, 5:55 PM
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You shoud see you head to ! Why when the chicken problem the dominican goverment was mad because haitian stop to buy dominican chicken ? If dominican republic doesnt exist, haitian would go anywhere else.
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