FACT: Granted there actually 1.2 Million illegal Haitians and the rest are either legally documented, have been residents or have received scholarships to study in DR to i nclude those that have been denied cedulas or even birth certificate even when they try to become legal, are born on Dominicans soil and willing to pay proper fees and fines. Due to discriminative reasons those folks were not granted legal due process and some of them simply because their parents or great parents were undocumented.

ILLUSION: That 2 Million maginalized number have been blown way out of proportion to exagerate the circumstance for "DR propaganda media effect" to justified repatriation campaigns. There have been great deal of misleading statistics on such number, because the recent census and survey have shown better close to accurate number, but telling you from experience; no census or survey conducted by any groups foreign or domestic is ever nor can ever be 100% accurate to know for sure who is illegal or legal.

P.S: However, I could agree with you that, because DR is not a rich nation and has just begun most of its progression, perhaps indeed too much or too many illegals does not serve DR justice but nonetheless those ilegals are of great necessity to the hard labor department of DR. Thus nevertheless, nor does it ever a justified means for racially motivated hatred. Also, just as much as I agree with you that the Haitian government needs to start taking immense greater responsibility; but the government is not the one sending those poeple to DR. If you try to approach this with a more humanly educated stance as oppose to your radically racist mentality and hatred, you will see and know that those people cross on their own due to the fact of reality the situation in Haiti is quite rough and dire.

Lastly, most of those undocumented Haitians are those Haitians in the Countryside which of whom do not even have means to travel all the way into the main capital to acquire even a birth certificates if they ever even had one made and I blame in fact the Haitian government for that and for a lot of things. Because those folks are often farming paisanos who lacked so much already. Did you even know that all it requires for one Haitian to be properly documented is a valid pasaporte or a legit Haitian cedula; but most of those folks from the Countryside often either cannot afford to have one made, but once again I do not expect you to comprehend any of this.

NOTING: It is that simple that you m ust know there are more behind the overly expressed media twists and political propagandas being conveyed by self-proclaim sociologist, extremist hate mongering stipulatist radicals like yourself. Yet, I would still not say that you have not brought forward some things that would have, could and should have consdierd valid had it not been already your views and approach is already tainted with racist motivated hatred.

There you said it. With hard work indeed, my friend. We can both agree on that. You see, you can have beeter constructive debates had you droped your racist stances and approach on the issues and discuss them like an actual educated human being. You would have more credit for it even if you had certain legit resentment for Haiti and Haitians.

Haiti does not hate DR for the things it has accomplished. I for one do not hate DR nor can I ever hate DR because that would be like hating my mother and her family who are Dominicans. In fact, too often Haitians and even Haitian politicians have used and still use DR's progresses in their speeches, debates and discussion as example to show others from the mass populace that many things are possible and hope Haiti would follow in the footsteps of most of the things DR has done.

However, you will not have any one point out how much adoration Haiti has for DR in terms of its accomplishment in progressing DR infrastructurally as well as imploring gratitude from the Haitian mass and politicians to be appreciative of some of DR's quite vigourously many reforms that are of great valors and honoring merits regardless of how slowly such process is taking roots.

P.S: I am glad you have gotten familiar with the definition for Egotism. Now, do the same for Egoism. I know of the Netherlands progresses and infrastructural innovations. I read about them, watch documentaries about them, I have been to the Netherlands as one of our US Military bases is there that deals with observing the Earth's eco-system among other studies being conducted in that area that is benefiting the Earth globally to help prevent or better respond to situation like this from this link http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/breaking-news/story/1008892.html

NegMorne, What a pity! People like you never learn.
You intentionally forgot this line: WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE HARMONY IN THIS ISLAND IF WE DO NOT HAVE PROGRESS IN HAITI.
We NEED a radical change in the situation of the Western part and the basic problems are the persons who created that situation: the Haitians. You do not say: “Well, we are in this point and we are going to that point”, you close your eyes to your reality and you want that the entire world close their eyes too.
When we were negotiating our free trade act with the United States of America we had to accept every condition that they wished. They dictated every conditions thinking in their interest and we accepted every condition because we understood that we can afford accepting them. Of course we had another option: to stop the deal but we needed urgently to be part of some regional block (Centro America is part of our free trade act) and for that reason we did not stop the negotiations. The United States even changed some of our laws and asked for new ones and until the moment of the promulgation of the last new one they did not sign the free trade act.
We were not as powerful as the United States of America and we knew that we could not go to a negotiation table asking to be treated as equals. It worked. We needed to do business with the United States of America and we got our free trade act.
You can say: “Oh, that is not to negotiate with honor!” and I would say to you: “We negotiated with honor, but we never forgot what our situation is and remember, my people is not begging in your streets, your people is begging in our streets, what kind of honor that is!”.
Haiti is not as powerful as the Dominican Republic. We have not too much power yet but Haiti is not as powerful as we are. You cannot come to a negotiating table with us asking to be treated as equals. We are not a super power and we do not operate like one but in that scenario we are going to have a preponderant position and you are going to have the same option that we had: to stop the negotiation.
Haitians do not understand that and this is not going to work in that way.

Here is something to digest people both Haitians and Dominicans. Given the situations, there are great ambiguities at hand for a prosperous Haiti.

Simply because, let us just say one would assume an economically sound and advanced Haiti would be effectivelly better for DR; then again you have to ask youselves, with that same possibility it could be a challlenge for DR due to the fact that DR depends on Haiti's lack of economy and instability just as well.

Also, so would a bad DR-HAITI relations would also do the entire island such diservice. People are not taking into accountability that the arenas of politic, economy and social issues are getting to be more global than ever before because we are reaching certain potentials of being dependent on each other in this world as the globe that it was meant to be. That is why the World International Body is asking for DR to be a better neighbor to Haiti and because, let us admit that DR is taking great strides towards becoming a great progressive mogul in the region, however thankfuly to so many foreign investments and itenrests, not that because DR's politics are so constructively a sound uncorrupt system rather because of the actual growth it has served to be examplary in, nonetheless.

Afro,
The overwhelming majority of the hundreds of thousands Haitian Immigrant Workers in the DR were recruited through a very well organized network of Haitian and Dominican brokers set up by the Dominican elite with the complicity of the Haitian and Dominican authorities. Every year, the Dominican army violently and in a barbaric way deports thousands of Haitian Immigrant workers some of them without their due salaries and also leaving children and even babies behind. At the same time, hundreds of thousands more Haitian workers are recruited again to replenish the cheap labor supply. As of now, the number of Haitians living in the DR is close to 700,000 and not 2 million as some are claiming here. As you pointed out already, some ill-intentioned Dominicans are using the latter number as a publicity stunt to play victims. They must know and learn the harsh truth that their elite and government are first and foremost responsible for creating this situation in the DR and should not blame Haiti and/or the poor Haitian Immigrant Workers who were promised gold when they were being recruited being vulnerable because of the harsh situation in Haiti.

Do you have any proofs backing this? And no, neither the UN's statistics nor the ones of the International Organization for Migrations are reliable here, cuz' those statistics were made during the 90's, when the migrational situation wasn't as out of control as it is now. Until the DR gets its census done on 2010, anything that you or other people might say on the matter will be just hot air. Not even I, who live on the island and can tell and assess the situation better than you will ever do, am not throwing numbers into the air so happily (at least not without ensuring their fidelity in a 100%), the most we can gather now are estimates. My own are at the very least 1.8 million, based on the fact that in some border towns (and even in eastern towns like Bavaro), the inmigrants outnumber the local population.

AfroLatino, 2,000,000 was the number that we got in a very complex study almost two years ago. It must be greater right now.
I do not understand why it is so difficult for the Haitians to understand this: DOMINICAN REPUBLIC DO NOT HATE HAITI. We only are pretending to regularize our migratory situation (and we have the right for doing something like that), but we do not want every Haitian out of our country. We have a big problem and we have to do something about it, but we do not hate Haiti.
Regularizing our migratory situation means a better situation for every Dominican, even those Dominicans of Haitian ancestry (as Dominicans as I am). It also means a pressure for Haiti. Haitians need to resolve their problems in their side and if they have to take care of their citizens in our side too necessarily sooner or later we will have some solutions.
The basic problem in all this is that Haitians are not doing their work and if we do not do something that is going to hurt us.
Look at these issues:
Taxes.
The tax evasion in Haiti is something unbelievable. Everybody is part of the most incredible tax evading process in this Hemisphere. How is going a government to do its work without the funds that are necessaries. Haiti is not going to improve its situation without its people paying taxes.
Investments.
Haitians riches do not like to invest in their own country. Almost all of them do not invest even in the island. If their own people do not invest in their own country how Haiti is going to improve its situation.
Social movements.
When a social movement is working properly everybody knows what is happening. I said one time that Bolivar, Duarte, Marti, Lenin, Castro and Mandela were jailed and/or exiled (all of them) because everybody knew what they were doing. Who are the leaders and which are the movements that are fighting for a better Haiti? Nobody knows. That is the Caribbean best secret. How is going Haiti to improve its situations without the social movements that it needs?
Regional integration.
Haiti is the less integrated country in the Caribbean. Now, in this world where everybody needs everybody Haiti is almost alone. Haiti needs to improve its conditions and to take part in the world integration process but Haitians are all the time remembering their past and how great they used to be.
Haiti is a big headache and I do not see clearly how they are going to resolve their problems but we have to resolve our problems and we are going to resolve them and that does not mean that we hate Haiti.

Could you show the source, please? If you and Caonabo are going to be throwing numbers around, you can at least cite your sources, so we can at least evaluate their levels of reliability.

“It could be a challenge for DR due to the fact that DR depends on Haiti's lack of economy and instability just as well.”
AfroLatino.

That is a big lie, AfroLatino; a person like you must not repeat something like that. We do not depend on Haiti’s tragedy. As any other Latin American country we can go ahead without any relation at all with Haiti.
And then what do you say of Cuba?
That giant is going to stand up. Do we feel any fear? Of course not. Not at all. We are going to do what we are supposed to do: we are going to compete. We have a huge confidence in our own skills.

Could you show the source, please?
Lautaro.

We are going to talk about that soon but I would like you to think in this: The most important thing is not how many they are but how many of them are going to stay with us.
We can have differences about how many are staying now in our country but we are going to work with one number, just one number, when the regularization process starts.
People like me sustain that our total immigration must be 800,000 immigrants (from “El chino de Bonao” until “El negrito del Batey” crossing by “los españoles de la Duarte”, “los koreanos de la Mexico” and “los cocolos de San Pedro”). That was part our study too.
Something like that let the Haitian immigration in about 450,000 Dominicans of Haitian ancestry. The rest of the Haitian population must go back to their country. As you can see, we have a very serious task on our hands.
I do not know the reason, but our people do not like to talk about that number. Nobody here wishes to be seen as a “racist” but sooner or later we will need to do something with our Haitian problem and that day we will need to talk about that important number.