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South Korea's defence ministry is considering deploying robots armed with guns along its border with North Korea.

The heavily fortified border has been in place since the 1950s
South Korea's defence ministry is considering deploying robots armed with guns along its border with North Korea.
The robots are designed to strengthen surveillance, ministry spokesman Shin Hyun-don told reporters.

The 4km (2.5 mile) wide Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) separating North and South Korea is already the most heavily fortified border in the world.

Hundreds of thousands of troops patrol the frontier, which has been closed since the Korean War ended in 1953.

The defence ministry said on Friday that it would complete a feasibility study of the planned system by the end of 2005, and the robots could be in operation as early as 2011.

"If the surveillance system by robots is effective, we may withdraw part of our troops away from the border," a ministry official told the Associated Press news agency.

KOREAN BORDER

240 km long and 4km wide, the DMZ takes up about 0.5% of Korean peninsula
N Korea has 1.1 million man army along the border. S Korea and US forces total more than 700,000

240 km long and 4km wide, the DMZ takes up about 0.5% of Korean peninsula
N Korea has 1.1 million man army along the border. S Korea and US forces total more than 700,000
According to officials quoted in the Korea Times newspaper, the cost of the project could run to $1.9bn.

South Korea has been anxious to improve security on the border with the North since three holes were discovered in the frontier fence in October.

At first Seoul feared that North Korean agents had infiltrated the South, but officials eventually concluded that the holes had been made by a South Korean civilian defecting to the North.

This is not the first time South Korea has deployed robots to help its defensive capabilities.

Two rifle-equipped robots were reportedly deployed with South Korean troops in Iraq.

north korean border patrol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4425689.stm

#85 - Posted 1 April 2009, 6:20 PM
yumnuk3 Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3390	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA U.S. truckers warned of violence near Mexico border Audrey Hudson (Contact) Friday, March 27, 2009 American truck drivers operating near the U.S.-Mexico border are being warned of increasing violence among warring drug cartels and told to stay on alert against attacks or hijackings. "Violence amongst Mexican drug cartels in the border states, on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border, has exponentially increased in the past year," according to the alert from First Observer, a trucking security program funded by a Homeland Security grant. "Truck drivers carry a risk as they are involved in operations that might interest these criminals," the alert said. The alert cited the efforts of Mexican President Feilpe Calderon to crack down on cross-border smuggling of drugs, which it says has hurt the cartels' operations. "With these difficulties, the cartels' gangs have become more aggressive and dangerous with their tactics," the alert said. "Violent crimes have surged throughout border cities and the violence that primarily occurred on the Mexican side has begun to spill into the United States." Though the alert did not come from the federal government itself, Sterline Payne, a spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration, said the agency agreed with the assessment. TSA "concurs with the issuance of the alert and the information contained within," Ms. Payne said. David Ogden, deputy attorney general, told the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday that the department "has identified the Mexican drug trafficking organizations as the greatest organized crime threat facing the United States today." About 5,300 people were slain in drug-related fighting along the U.S.-Mexico border in 2008. The full threat of the drug cartel's operations also includes kidnapping, bribery, extortion, money laundering and smuggling weapons from the U.S. into Mexico. "Truck drivers may face an elevated risk of being a crime victim as their loads represent a potentially easy payoff for criminals," said Don L. Rondeau, director of the Highway Information Sharing and Analysis Center which was also created by the Homeland Security grant. "We're strongly urging American trucking companies and owner-operators to exercise extreme caution when making deliveries or pickups along the Mexican border," Mr. Rondeau said. The highway center issued several guidelines for trucking companies who have scheduled deliveries in Mexico, advising them to stick to toll roads, to create a distress code to call for help, to report in with dispatchers after all scheduled and unscheduled stops, and to ensure in advance that cellular phones can get roaming service. http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/27/us-truckers-warned-violence-near-mexico-border/ Nothing says "Keep Out," like a 15 foot high steel fence. "Should we have a border fence or wall along our Dominican-Haitian border?" Edited on 4/1/2009 6:48 PM by yumnuk3.
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#81 - Posted 31 March 2009, 6:06 PM
generoso Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9121	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Quote: poponlaburra previously said: USA border fence. Not a good looking fence but at least is serving the purpose. Our fence will be much better, mostly reinforced prefabricated cement, taller, prouder, and we will also invite our graffiti artist to paint over it. You will see, you will be there in person to witness it. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever.
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#82 - Posted 31 March 2009, 6:07 PM
generoso Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9121	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Picture of US Mexico border wall, cement part. http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/04/border.jpg Edited on 3/31/2009 6:30 PM by generoso. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever.
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#86 - Posted 1 April 2009, 7:13 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5728	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR Quote: troy310879 previously said: my friend there are over ten thousand dominicans and over fifteen thousand haitians in my little island of 345 sguare km some are legal and illegal. they are here beacause we have a higher standard of living than haiti and DR, most of the population here is of african descent. but we dont discriminate against haitians or why is there is so much hate towards haitians. i know they are very hard headed but this is so beacause of the little education they have. and by the way haitians here live like brothers with dominicans. I also know of haitian men here with dominican women. and by the way most dominicans have part ancestory african. i have been to mexico and panama and a saw what a true white spanish ancestory is. dr is a mix of african and spanish. most dominicans claim tiano ancestory which is false all the indians died out when the spanish settled 500 years ago. If u think i am lying go to the islands of dominica and st vincent there you will see pure breed Taino people with likness to dominicans. I think that you're the one who needs a wake up call, buddy, cuz' it have been scientifically proven that Taino extinction is just a myth. Would you care to read the following thread, if that is not too much for your little peanut brain to assimilate, that is: http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/forum/living-in-the-dr/general-info/586/Taino-Ancestry-Among-Dominicans Edited on 4/1/2009 7:43 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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#87 - Posted 1 April 2009, 7:49 PM
antonioj Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2788	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: my friend there are over ten thousand dominicans and over fifteen thousand haitians in my little island of 345 sguare km some are legal and illegal. they are here beacause we have a higher standard of living than haiti and DR, most of the population here is of african descent. but we dont discriminate against haitians or why is there is so much hate towards haitians. i know they are very hard headed but this is so beacause of the little education they have. and by the way haitians here live like brothers with dominicans. I also know of haitian men here with dominican women. and by the way most dominicans have part ancestory african. i have been to mexico and panama and a saw what a true white spanish ancestory is. dr is a mix of african and spanish. most dominicans claim tiano ancestory which is false all the indians died out when the spanish settled 500 years ago. If u think i am lying go to the islands of dominica and st vincent there you will see pure breed Taino people with likness to dominicans. I think that you're the one who needs a wake up call, buddy, cuz' it have been scientifically proven that Taino extinction is just a myth. Would you care to read the following thread, if that is not too much for your little peanut brain, that is: http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/forum/living-in-the-dr/general-info/586/Taino-Ancestry-Among-Dominicans 10,000 Dominicans and 15,000 Haitians on a population of 32,000 as per latest census !! Mister Lat, I believe Canada want to annex the turk and caicos. by the way the island size is 417 square km, you sure know your "cuntry" well Edited on 4/1/2009 7:56 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.
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#88 - Posted 1 April 2009, 7:56 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5728	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: my friend there are over ten thousand dominicans and over fifteen thousand haitians in my little island of 345 sguare km some are legal and illegal. they are here beacause we have a higher standard of living than haiti and DR, most of the population here is of african descent. but we dont discriminate against haitians or why is there is so much hate towards haitians. i know they are very hard headed but this is so beacause of the little education they have. and by the way haitians here live like brothers with dominicans. I also know of haitian men here with dominican women. and by the way most dominicans have part ancestory african. i have been to mexico and panama and a saw what a true white spanish ancestory is. dr is a mix of african and spanish. most dominicans claim tiano ancestory which is false all the indians died out when the spanish settled 500 years ago. If u think i am lying go to the islands of dominica and st vincent there you will see pure breed Taino people with likness to dominicans. I think that you're the one who needs a wake up call, buddy, cuz' it have been scientifically proven that Taino extinction is just a myth. Would you care to read the following thread, if that is not too much for your little peanut brain, that is: http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/forum/living-in-the-dr/general-info/586/Taino-Ancestry-Among-Dominicans 10,000 Dominicans and 15,000 Haitians on a population of 32,000 as per latest census !! Mister Lat, I believe Canada want to annex the turk and caicos. It would be a perfect source of extra revenue, and also a good escape valve against those harsh and crude winters of yours, don't you think, mon ami? Edited on 4/1/2009 7:59 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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#83 - Posted 1 April 2009, 6:19 PM
yumnuk3 Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3390	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA "Should we have a border fence or wall along our Dominican-Haitian border?" The Great Wall of China All About the Great Wall of China The Great Wall of China was built over 2,000 years ago, by Qin Shi Huangdi, the first emperor of China during the Qin (Ch'in) Dynasty (221 B.C - 206 B.C.). In Chinese the wall is called "Wan-Li Qang-Qeng" which means 10,000-Li Long Wall (10,000 Li = about 5,000 km). After subjugating and uniting China from seven Warring States, the emperor connected and extended four old fortification walls along the north of China that originated about 700 B.C. (over 2500 years ago). Armies were stationed along the wall as a first line of defense against the invading nomadic Hsiung Nu tribes north of China (the Huns). Signal fires from the Wall provided early warning of an attack. The Great Wall is one of the largest building construction projects ever completed. It stretches across the mountains of northern China, winding north and northwest of Beijing. It is constructed of masonry, rocks and packed-earth. It was over 5,000 km (=10,000 Li) long. Its thickness ranged from about 4.5 to 9 meters (15 to 30 feet) and was up to 7.5 meters (25 feet) tall. During the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), the Great Wall was enlarged to 6,400 kilometers (4,000 miles) and renovated over a 200 year period, with watch-towers and cannons added. The Great Wall can be seen from Earth orbit, but, contrary to legend, is not visible from the moon, according to astronauts Neil Armstrong, Jim Lovell, and Jim Irwin. http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/greatwall/Allabout.html Edited on 4/1/2009 6:50 PM by yumnuk3.
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#84 - Posted 1 April 2009, 6:19 PM
yumnuk3 Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3390	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA South Korea's defence ministry is considering deploying robots armed with guns along its border with North Korea. The heavily fortified border has been in place since the 1950s South Korea's defence ministry is considering deploying robots armed with guns along its border with North Korea. The robots are designed to strengthen surveillance, ministry spokesman Shin Hyun-don told reporters. The 4km (2.5 mile) wide Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) separating North and South Korea is already the most heavily fortified border in the world. Hundreds of thousands of troops patrol the frontier, which has been closed since the Korean War ended in 1953. The defence ministry said on Friday that it would complete a feasibility study of the planned system by the end of 2005, and the robots could be in operation as early as 2011. "If the surveillance system by robots is effective, we may withdraw part of our troops away from the border," a ministry official told the Associated Press news agency. KOREAN BORDER 240 km long and 4km wide, the DMZ takes up about 0.5% of Korean peninsula N Korea has 1.1 million man army along the border. S Korea and US forces total more than 700,000 240 km long and 4km wide, the DMZ takes up about 0.5% of Korean peninsula N Korea has 1.1 million man army along the border. S Korea and US forces total more than 700,000 According to officials quoted in the Korea Times newspaper, the cost of the project could run to $1.9bn. South Korea has been anxious to improve security on the border with the North since three holes were discovered in the frontier fence in October. At first Seoul feared that North Korean agents had infiltrated the South, but officials eventually concluded that the holes had been made by a South Korean civilian defecting to the North. This is not the first time South Korea has deployed robots to help its defensive capabilities. Two rifle-equipped robots were reportedly deployed with South Korean troops in Iraq. north korean border patrol http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4425689.stm
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#89 - Posted 1 April 2009, 7:59 PM
poponlaburra Location: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1609 Posts: 1807	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Quote: yumnuk3 previously said: "Should we have a border fence or wall along our Dominican-Haitian border?" The Great Wall of China All About the Great Wall of China The Great Wall of China was built over 2,000 years ago, by Qin Shi Huangdi, the first emperor of China during the Qin (Ch'in) Dynasty (221 B.C - 206 B.C.). In Chinese the wall is called "Wan-Li Qang-Qeng" which means 10,000-Li Long Wall (10,000 Li = about 5,000 km). After subjugating and uniting China from seven Warring States, the emperor connected and extended four old fortification walls along the north of China that originated about 700 B.C. (over 2500 years ago). Armies were stationed along the wall as a first line of defense against the invading nomadic Hsiung Nu tribes north of China (the Huns). Signal fires from the Wall provided early warning of an attack. The Great Wall is one of the largest building construction projects ever completed. It stretches across the mountains of northern China, winding north and northwest of Beijing. It is constructed of masonry, rocks and packed-earth. It was over 5,000 km (=10,000 Li) long. Its thickness ranged from about 4.5 to 9 meters (15 to 30 feet) and was up to 7.5 meters (25 feet) tall. During the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), the Great Wall was enlarged to 6,400 kilometers (4,000 miles) and renovated over a 200 year period, with watch-towers and cannons added. The Great Wall can be seen from Earth orbit, but, contrary to legend, is not visible from the moon, according to astronauts Neil Armstrong, Jim Lovell, and Jim Irwin. http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/greatwall/Allabout.html Thanks yumnuk. If the Chinese built this wonder 2500 years ago, why can we? "PROUD & Glad to have a Spanish last name and ancestry"
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#90 - Posted 1 April 2009, 8:55 PM
generoso Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9121	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA I am already getting much interest from many different groups and offers to volunteer and it is a damn good sign. We are waiting after semana santa to name a steering committee for the group. This muro por la vida idea is taking off, and will be a great patriotic project that will hopefully unite our country and we will all participate in the task. Yumnuck, , great post, I got some ideas from it. The wall should be probably made of a combination of materials that are available in the DR. Maybe cement and steel at some places. The study that will be done will probably set the recommendations of best way to go. popon as usual beautiful pictures of the China wall, I also posted a link for the Mexican wall that should be checked out. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever.
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