Haiti the displaced are forgotten..AGAIN! - Santo Domingo

#101 - Posted 4 April 2009, 2:05 PM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: troy310879 previously said: the expat population here is the largest boy. All i am trying to say dominicians should stop the hate, beacause people here has no ill feelings towards your people or haitians. and by the way i speak spanish and treat all dominicans as brothers. I know racisim beacause both my great grand father and grandmother who were of irish and portuguse ancestory used to talk down to black people. dominicans risk their lives to go to puerto rico and the people there dont like it, so why treat the haitians like that when you have a boat culture too. Thank you for your conclusion, it's easy to say than done, no one in their right mind will disagree with what you say , however the issues are more complex, there are historical facts, DR being less afro centric and Haiti very afro centric, Haiti present economic situation ect.. please stick around a little you will learn more. troy Nobody is preaching hate here, just order and survival. If the situation was the reversal and Haiti's economy was booming, I am sure that the Haitians would not like it a bit if 2 million undocumented Dominicans just "showed up" and crossed the border illegally with no proof of citizenship whatsoever and asked for any jobs at a lower pay than Haitians, stressed the public hospitals to the maximum with tons of pregnant women, increased and stressed the demand for transportation, housing and food infrastructure, and did not speak a word of French or Creole and used the already lacking education facilities competing with tax paying regular citizens. On top of all that, they did not make an effort to camouflage their religious beliefs and customs and had a racial supremacist attitude. Edited on 4/4/2009 3:02 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA

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poponlaburra previously said:

Generoso,
"Few miles of border wall could be easily built in a weekend or a week"

Since the border wall is an imminent issue for us I though that would be great if once we the volunteer people and the government start on materializing this project ASAP.
One idea is to fast track an interim wall, which would be the second layer wall as the USA one while the main wall is getting built. I call it interim for it could be built before the main wall is built, but it would be permanent as well.
This fast track second layer could be built from ready made recycled containers, the ones use for shipping. Can you imagine how easy this is? Few miles of border wall could be easily built in a weekend or a week.
Not only it would be easy and fast, the different containers could house military, border patrol base facility or to house them for they could become apartments.
They could also be utilized for storing natural disaster equipments.
These containers are very strong easy to ship and install. All around the glove they being used for their have great potential as renewable ready made items.

Last year there was a great exhibition at the NYC MOMA using recycled containers. Below is a link of few of their many uses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65C9OLvmjpI

Thank you for your support and always positive input. As you know I have been bombarded and targeted by trolls, that do not agree with my proposals and want to silence me. Typical Stalinist way
of suppressing the right of free speech.
Your idea is splendid and something to ponder and evaluate. I will get back to you after I study it further. Remember "Good fences make good neighbors".

"Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".

#102 - Posted 5 April 2009, 3:25 PM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR Quote: troy310879 previously said: so i guess you understand how americans feel towards your mexican brothers crossing into the usa That is why they are enforcing the border through patrols, robots, night vision equipment, drones, surveillance cameras, and last but not least the cement wall that is being completed as we speak. Exactly my argument. "Good fences make good neighbors" "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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#103 - Posted 6 April 2009, 2:37 AM
delgadoMASS Location: United States, new england Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2358 Posts: 118	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR troy says: """so i guess you understand how americans feel towards your mexican brothers crossing into the usa""""" lol! lol! lol! i, personally, as a dominican american living in the usa, i don't think mexicans as our "brothers". puerto ricans? maybe. but mexicans can suck my big platano. btw, you are the one who started preaching hate here first, by writing crap about dominican womans. i have nothing against haitian people, i just hate the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ISSUE going on in the dominican republic, our country not the haitians country. im proud of my african heritage/blood. so i have nothing against haitians.
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#104 - Posted 9 April 2009, 9:32 AM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM THE DR Quote: troy310879 previously said: my friend i share your view on illegal immigration beacause in my country we have a problem with illegal haitians, dominicans and jamaicans. but these people are not to be blamed it is native people who love this type of cheap labour. so i think they should be prosecuted and that will put a dent in the problem. According to the latest unpublished figures the census is 40% Haitians, Dominicans and other nationalities. That leaves 60% British (Turks and Caicos). Illegal immigration for economic reasons is a worldwide problem not only in Turk and Caicos. Humans escape misery and try to find "better hunting grounds", it is natural for the natives who were there before to protect and contain their turf. Jailing and prosecution is not the solution to these poor individuals, deportation and/or enforcement of immigration and work permits so they will not be exploited is a more reasonable solution. Natives that sustain and support the system do have more rights than recent new comers that are economic exiles, not political, and they have all the reasons in the world to protect their country. So what you say, deport the illegals and fine the employers that exploit them, is not unreasonable. Edited on 4/9/2009 9:33 AM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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#105 - Posted 25 April 2009, 6:12 PM
AfroLatino Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Here are two Haitian pages I have found. http://www.radiotambou.com and http://www.everythingHaitian.com I do not know if they are any good; but I hope some of you on here will do check it out.
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#106 - Posted 27 April 2009, 4:27 PM
TN1804 Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2474 Posts: 480	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA The real solution is an Other Jean-Jacques our an other Soulouque. They know how to put those little racist back to they sit.
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#107 - Posted 27 April 2009, 5:31 PM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Quote: TN1804 previously said: The real solution is an Other Jean-Jacques our an other Soulouque. They know how to put those little racist back to they sit. Maybe you can resurrect Dessalines and Soulouque and make them zombies, so they can come and spark ethnic cleansing mad mobs, that the Haitians have never seen in their worse dreams. When you speak that way, contributors that want to remain civil just turn into your own worst nightmare, and passions are inflamed. In the present just like Dominicans were back in 1804 when we were invaded, raped, pillaged and murdered by the Haitian hordes of blood thirsty criminals, the Haitians are now at a disadvantage militarily. So it will be wise for you all to stop this flag waving nonsense, and threats, and resort to being more thankful to a country like la Republica Dominicana that has been so kind to Haitians, and so generous even forgiving them for their past sins, but never forgetting, WE SHALL, AND WILL NEVER FORGET! So thread carefully, my friend. Edited on 4/27/2009 5:33 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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#108 - Posted 27 April 2009, 6:01 PM
TN1804 Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2474 Posts: 480	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: TN1804 previously said: The real solution is an Other Jean-Jacques our an other Soulouque. They know how to put those little racist back to they sit. Maybe you can resurrect Dessalines and Soulouque and make them zombies, so they can come and spark ethnic cleansing mad mobs, that the Haitians have never seen in their worse dreams. When you speak that way, contributors that want to remain civil just turn into your own worst nightmare, and passions are inflamed. In the present just like Dominicans were back in 1804 when we were invaded, raped, pillaged and murdered by the Haitian hordes of blood thirsty criminals, the Haitians are now at a disadvantage militarily. So it will be wise for you all to stop this flag waving nonsense, and threats, and resort to being more thankful to a country like la Republica Dominicana that has been so kind to Haitians, and so generous even forgiving them for their past sins, but never forgetting, WE SHALL, AND WILL NEVER FORGET! So thread carefully, my friend. They would love to have in they hand the blood of those "new" Slaveowners. If all dominican were like some people in this board, they have a great reason why they kill them !
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#109 - Posted 29 April 2009, 2:37 AM
poponlaburra Location: Dominican Republic, PROUD & Glad to have a Spanish last name and ancestry Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1609 Posts: 1791	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Generoso, "Few miles of border wall could be easily built in a weekend or a week" Since the border wall is an imminent issue for us I though that would be great if once we the volunteer people and the government start on materializing this project ASAP. One idea is to fast track an interim wall, which would be the second layer wall as the USA one while the main wall is getting built. I call it interim for it could be built before the main wall is built, but it would be permanent as well. This fast track second layer could be built from ready made recycled containers, the ones use for shipping. Can you imagine how easy this is? Few miles of border wall could be easily built in a weekend or a week. Not only it would be easy and fast, the different containers could house military, border patrol base facility or to house them for they could become apartments. They could also be utilized for storing natural disaster equipments. These containers are very strong easy to ship and install. All around the glove they being used for their have great potential as renewable ready made items. Last year there was a great exhibition at the NYC MOMA using recycled containers. Below is a link of few of their many uses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65C9OLvmjpI "PROUD & Glad to have a Spanish last name and ancestry"
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#110 - Posted 29 April 2009, 7:38 AM
generoso Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401	RE: THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS CAN NOT COME FROM DR or MURO POR LA VIDA Quote: poponlaburra previously said: Generoso, "Few miles of border wall could be easily built in a weekend or a week" Since the border wall is an imminent issue for us I though that would be great if once we the volunteer people and the government start on materializing this project ASAP. One idea is to fast track an interim wall, which would be the second layer wall as the USA one while the main wall is getting built. I call it interim for it could be built before the main wall is built, but it would be permanent as well. This fast track second layer could be built from ready made recycled containers, the ones use for shipping. Can you imagine how easy this is? Few miles of border wall could be easily built in a weekend or a week. Not only it would be easy and fast, the different containers could house military, border patrol base facility or to house them for they could become apartments. They could also be utilized for storing natural disaster equipments. These containers are very strong easy to ship and install. All around the glove they being used for their have great potential as renewable ready made items. Last year there was a great exhibition at the NYC MOMA using recycled containers. Below is a link of few of their many uses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65C9OLvmjpI Thank you for your support and always positive input. As you know I have been bombarded and targeted by trolls, that do not agree with my proposals and want to silence me. Typical Stalinist way of suppressing the right of free speech. Your idea is splendid and something to ponder and evaluate. I will get back to you after I study it further. Remember "Good fences make good neighbors". "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far".
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