| #771 - Posted 15 August 2009, 9:53 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3278 Posts: 461 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: HaytiQuisqueyaBohio previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: gdure previously said: Again, I beg of you to refrain and think before spewing such idiotic diatribes. Obviously you are no Haitian, any Haitian school boy would know that the Dominican occupation lasted 22 years. So you are a troll, and by your style I can almost guess your lineage. I'm glad you called it an occupation and not an invasion. The Haitian armies came to DR uninvited which means that they were an invasion force. They did not leave after achieving submission against mostly civilian cattle ranchers, and occupied what is now known as DR, so technically they were both invaders and occupiers. You can send PM's to your Haitian buddies in Creole, but you should not converse in creole in an english site, out of plain courtesy to others, that do no comprand. Comprand? Compris mes amis. Edited on 8/15/2009 9:54 PM by HaytiQuisqueyaBohio. Tout nèg ki renmen libète pa janm vle wè polis.-kreyòl- |
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| #772 - Posted 15 August 2009, 10:07 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Merci boku. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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| #773 - Posted 15 August 2009, 10:19 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2707 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Quote: generoso previously said: Public opinion has to become more proactive to prevent the Dominican-Haitian volcano that is brewing from erupting full force. As economic conditions deteriorate further because of the world financial crisis, and the political elections in DR gets closer, more labor strikes and civilian disturbances could occur. The still unresolved continuous Haitian exodus and indifference by both governments, for the containment will help fuel the fires of discord. The DR and the Haitian government both conveniently do not make an effort to stop the Haitian illegal immigration or take the necessary steps to police the border, so the situation is getting more flammable as time passes. The business sectors and security apparatus of both countries exploit with impunity the obvious business advantages of cheap Haitian labor, depressing the Dominican worker's income, and exploiting the Haitians. This together with the rising food prices, and great poverty in both the DR and Haiti are creating a desperate situation with a strong probability of civil disobedience and popular uprisings. The international community including the USA, Canada, Brasil, France and England want the DR to act as "scapegoat" and to absorb the Haitian exodus and mass immigration, to stop the illegal Haitian and Dominican boat people from knocking at their doors, and if we continue to allow this there will be two failed states instead of one in the island. Documentation of Haitian nationals is not our responsibility, repatriation is. An orderly and peaceful repatriation of Haitians is warranted, but it will be difficult to accomplish until better economic conditions exist in Haiti. This is why is it our responsibility as well to make the citizens of Haiti aware, that the international community has GIVEN UP on a solution to the Haitian crisis and instead want the DR to "assimilate" the Haitian problem and accept the Haitian nationals invading our country as Dominicans. Haitians need to understand that their survival as a nation is at stake, and they are the only ones that need to take responsibility for the welfare of their country, not us. We in the DR have to wake up as a nation that has been dormant with this issue for way too long, we are facing a challenge of hungry and desperate human beings that have little to lose. The odds could not be any higher as our survival as a nation is at stake. I second the motion! |
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| #774 - Posted 15 August 2009, 10:26 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Public opinion has to become more proactive to prevent the Dominican-Haitian volcano that is brewing from erupting full force. As economic conditions deteriorate further because of the world financial crisis, and the political elections in DR gets closer, more labor strikes and civilian disturbances could occur. The still unresolved continuous Haitian exodus and indifference by both governments, for the containment will help fuel the fires of discord. The DR and the Haitian government both conveniently do not make an effort to stop the Haitian illegal immigration or take the necessary steps to police the border, so the situation is getting more flammable as time passes. The business sectors and security apparatus of both countries exploit with impunity the obvious business advantages of cheap Haitian labor, depressing the Dominican worker's income, and exploiting the Haitians. This together with the rising food prices, and great poverty in both the DR and Haiti are creating a desperate situation with a strong probability of civil disobedience and popular uprisings. The international community including the USA, Canada, Brasil, France and England want the DR to act as "scapegoat" and to absorb the Haitian exodus and mass immigration, to stop the illegal Haitian and Dominican boat people from knocking at their doors, and if we continue to allow this there will be two failed states instead of one in the island. Documentation of Haitian nationals is not our responsibility, repatriation is. An orderly and peaceful repatriation of Haitians is warranted, but it will be difficult to accomplish until better economic conditions exist in Haiti. This is why is it our responsibility as well to make the citizens of Haiti aware, that the international community has GIVEN UP on a solution to the Haitian crisis and instead want the DR to "assimilate" the Haitian problem and accept the Haitian nationals invading our country as Dominicans. Haitians need to understand that their survival as a nation is at stake, and they are the only ones that need to take responsibility for the welfare of their country, not us. We in the DR have to wake up as a nation that has been dormant with this issue for way too long, we are facing a challenge of hungry and desperate human beings that have little to lose. The odds could not be any higher as our survival as a nation is at stake. I second the motion! Great Carlos, but less not forget that they are human beings, as I mentioned, and we must also be compassionate and as charitable as we always are. Churchill always stressed defiance in defeat and magnanimity in victory. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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| #775 - Posted 18 August 2009, 2:07 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Haiti is a basket case, and we all know it. The donors are showing "donor fatigue" with Haiti as well, because the Haitians just keep taking, asking for more, and never showing any signs of improvement. This is no government but an organized legal mafia that is only there to further their own personal gains. No aid can ever be expected to go to the end user if these indolent perpetrators, have a say so, and get their share before anyone else. The Haitian government failed, and must be disbanded and replaced. That is step number one. After the UN accomplishes that, (not us) then maybe the UN can start the rebuilding process. Some people call it karma, we Dominicans have a word for bad luck that you bring about by doing bad things, it is called: Fukú. Haitians carry Fukú wherever they go because of their bad karma, and their belief in the dark forces. Just the other day my friend who hires Haitians to work in his farm told me that at night, you could hear the sounds of the loud drums and voo doo rituals, and the Haitians going into trance and shouting and screaming. This fukú factor haunts Haitians and curses them, and is part of the baggage they bring wherever they go to, the fukú shows them disrespect for nature, that is why they are predators. They disregard tree life, cutting down all the trees, that is why the water and rain has left the Haitian soil. They are also terminate even sea life in their predatory ways to fish, killing all fish and corals in the process. Edited on 8/18/2009 2:12 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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| #776 - Posted 18 August 2009, 2:49 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, PROUD & Glad to have a Spanish last name and ancestry Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1609 Posts: 1791 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic I've been gone for a short while and so many things had happened!! What happened to Mirabal4ever? What got him banned?? I sent him a PM telling him to be carefull for the trolls wanted him banned. Shame, shame, shame.... "PROUD & Glad to have a Spanish last name and ancestry" |
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| #777 - Posted 18 August 2009, 3:08 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Quote: poponlaburra previously said: I've been gone for a short while and so many things had happened!! What happened to Mirabal4ever? What got him banned?? I sent him a PM telling him to be carefull for the trolls wanted him banned. Shame, shame, shame.... All of a sudden he was gone, like poof! Carlos Franco also got axed, and a few others, I don't know the reasons that mirabal got axed, but I heard it was because of serious cursing interchanges with trolls. We are having some casualties, and the trolls keep coming like the eveready bunny, if the trend keeps on, the way it is now, pretty soon we will be overwhelmed with the Haitians trespassers, and they will take over. They have already started talking Creole in the threads, amongst themselves, a preview of what it is to come soon. Edited on 8/18/2009 3:09 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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| #778 - Posted 18 August 2009, 5:17 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3386 Posts: 7 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic As Tsun Zu states: "To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Go ahead, build your wall!!! |
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| #779 - Posted 18 August 2009, 5:39 PM | |
Location: United States, DR Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 8401 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Edited on 8/18/2009 8:35 PM by generoso. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick, you will go far". |
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| #780 - Posted 18 August 2009, 7:53 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3386 Posts: 7 | RE: Solutions and Trade for Haiti and Dominican Republic Edited on 8/18/2009 10:12 PM by gdure. |
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