AyMouno previously said:

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But I'm not trying to make anyone mad. I am honestly trying to ask what I believe to be relevant and genuine questions.

As I have surfed the net, spoken to people, and just watch actions of the Dominican government, I and I'm sure millions of others have recognized the absurd amount of resentment and racism Dominicans harbor against Haitians. I mean I look at this forum and I see threads which talk about Haitians in a very degrading manner. I see the same thing on other Dominican forums and EVEN HAITIAN Forums were Dominicans go on and insult Haitians for no reason at all. My question. Why? What has Haiti done to you that is so bad that you must bash us constantly? For what reason? Is it because of Jean-Pierre Boyer's union of Santo Domingo and Haiti in 1822 and the twenty two years of a united Hispanola which followed? Do you guys feel in angst against us because of this? If so, I will acknowledge that there were atrocities which took place during this time period however, this occupation was necessary for the definitive end of slavery in DR. If Haiti hadn't occupied it then Dominicans would have been enslaved for a much longer time and possibly be farther behind in their social and economic developments than they are today. Now as a Haitian American I do understand how (and this if Dominicans have problems against Haitians because of the 22yr occup.) you might hold resentment against Haiti because of this occupation. This is because I understand how African Americans feel about our 465yr (that’s not including the 89yrs which followed with segregation) enslavement to Europeans. Despite the fact the Santo Domingo was not under Haitian rule for even a fraction of the time, I will still give you that. Although free today, the actions of the past are hard to forget. HOWEVER, once released in 1844 Dominicans were free to form their own nation with very little tampering from the Haitian side. On the other hand once freed AA were subjected to another system of oppression. It has been only been 44 yrs since the end of Jim Crow. I have family who REMEBERS BEING OPRESSED. Therefore if there were to be any resentment against white Americans in an African Americans case, although we must forgive and it would be wrong, it would still be totally founded. 44yrs ago in DR, the people were only 5 yrs out of Trujillo's horrible regime. However the difference. TRUJILLO WAS A FELLOW DOMINCAN WHO OPRESSED OTHER DOMINICANS. It was not like a Haitian was oppressing you guys. Besides Haiti during this time period was to with its own problems to even worry about the DR. Besides any resentment you did have with Haiti should have been left behind in the 1937 Parsley Massacre were Trujillo INVADED Haitian land and killed an estimated 30,000 Haitians. As horrible as it is, I would think that would be a sort of a pay back for the 22yrs (even though it had been for the good of the Dominicans) Yet their is still resentment today. Despite the fact during Trujillo's era, even beyond the massacre there were still more revenge against the Haitians. e.g. (Antihaitinismo) So all and all haven't you gotten back for the "atrocities" we Haitians supposedly committed against you guys?? That being said if its not the 22yrs thing is it about race? Yes yes the Haitians did hold resentment towards the mulatto elite. Since there were more mulattos on the Dominican side thus there may have been more racism on the Haitian's part, against them. (This is within that 22yrs im talking about because after that Haiti really did keep to itself) Yet, you have to remember that the mulattos or the lighter guys were the ones running the show and alot of times it meant that us Haitians, black Haitians, were at the scum dirt bottom of any agenda they may have had. That still prevalent today. Why does that still exist. I mean for the most part all of you guys are of African decent. European Middle Eastern and Asian Dominicans included because of the ancestral ties to Africa and the beginning of human life. (hey that’s fact don't blame me) Yet for those of you with visible strains of African influence why discriminate against some one who has a darker skin tone than you? Were all one and the same. I mean as much as some Dominicans don't like it, its true. Why deny it? And if there is resentment today against Haitians because of the current immigration problem... WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT? Yes they come in illegally, but if they didn't come I am positive that the Dominican economy would not be as well off as it is today. I mean its the same with Mexicans and other migrant workers from central America in the United States. Without their contribution, the US economy would lose some serious profit. Besides how are Haitians "Invading" other than the fact they are moving into Dominican cities. What your scared that their presence would lead to you or your family losing their jobs? What most barely know how to read or write. Heck most can't even speak Spanish. Obviously, that shouldn't be a worry for you guys. The simple fact that you have access to a computer and are partaking in discussions in this forum lets me know to some extent you are well off enough not to be cutting sugar cane in the fields. So what is this?? I laid it out the best that I know of. If there is some reason that I am unaware of for Dominican resentment please tell me I mean I really want to understand why you guys are so..... angry. I mean most Haitians I know don't have a problem with Dominicans DESPITE the horrible things you guys do to us. It's sad really...

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST LOL Something I'm passionate about.

AyMouno previously said:

In 1937 Rafael Trujillo, in an event known as the Parsley Massacre ordered the Army to kill all Haitians on the Dominican side of the border; an estimated 17,000 to 35,000 Haitians were killed for approximately five days, from October 2, 1937 through October 8, 1937 CORRECTION Sorry I misread someplace else. The quote about DR losing Haitians as the US loses Mexicans, I agree that was a bit broad, and I understand that DR's economy is not structured like the U.S. However I do see similarities in reaction to the immigration situation. In both cases the outcome is fairly similar. Angry (insert nationality here) receiving immigrants from a failed state(Haiti) and a near failing(Mexico) want to build walls, tougher immigration polices ect ect ect. The situation is similar.

I did read that post you mentioned (funny it was before you mentioned it to lol) and I'am very aware of the internal racism between Haitians themselves. I always found it funny how some of the lighter skinned Haitians would call themselves blanc despite the fact they were obviously neg lol. Its ridiculous anyhow and it is something that does need to end. I also know it is one of the reason Haiti is failing now because the small quote on quote blanc population is purposely suppressing the majority of the population. (Link below if you don’t believe. Very interesting dialogue between a moderator and an American business man about this oppression) however, when I did talk about Dominican racism against Haitians that was a very small part of my question. And I know it is more than a race thing, that was my whole point of stressing other factors than race. What I'm trying to figure out is why the resentment?

http://multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/issues/1995/01/mm0195_10.html

AyMouno previously said:

Ok for the immigration thing I will give you that. Because your right. Both Haiti and Dominican Republic are Third World countries. And before you can take care of others you got to take care of your own. Especially as a developing nation, you guys (or us for that matter lol) don't have the resources to take on another ailing population. It makes sense to me. The Trujilo part however.... it was 1937 and I believe that information did not travel as quickly as you would want me to belive, besides there are some areas where the Mountains dominate the border which I'am sure slowed the delivery of the mandate considerably and even if they had a 3 day warning they still had to move their ENTIRE LIVES to go to a land that they had left many years ago. So back home thier was no place and now their was no longer a place in DR. I'm sure many stayed because they just didn't know what to do. Now if Trujillo had given them 3 months-yr to evacuate every Haitian from the region then the Haitians would have it coming if they were their by the end of this time. But the man gave them 3 DAYS to move Hundreds of thousands of people who had already dug their roots in the country many years ago. Still though... Why the resentment?

AyMouno previously said:

What and are you aware of the Domincan people's resentment of Haitians as a whole? For just being Haitian and born on Hispanola? THey can be decent educated hard working people, but what are they to you all.? Barbaric voodu worshipers who use mud cakes as thier only source of sustenance. Your point? We can go tit-for tat for days but thats not my question. WHY THE RESENTMENT?

AyMouno previously said:

Ok for the immigration thing I will give you that. Because your right. Both Haiti and Dominican Republic are Third World countries. And before you can take care of others you got to take care of your own. Especially as a developing nation, you guys (or us for that matter lol) don't have the resources to take on another ailing population. It makes sense to me. The Trujilo part however.... it was 1937 and I believe that information did not travel as quickly as you would want me to belive, besides there are some areas where the Mountains dominate the border which I'am sure slowed the delivery of the mandate considerably and even if they had a 3 day warning they still had to move their ENTIRE LIVES to go to a land that they had left many years ago. So back home thier was no place and now their was no longer a place in DR. I'm sure many stayed because they just didn't know what to do. Now if Trujillo had given them 3 months-yr to evacuate every Haitian from the region then the Haitians would have it coming if they were their by the end of this time. But the man gave them 3 DAYS to move Hundreds of thousands of people who had already dug their roots in the country many years ago. Still though... Why the resentment?