| #11 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:04 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3311 Posts: 37 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ Okay thank you Lautaro finally for a straight answer. THAT Makes sense. However, why be mad at the Haitians? Yeah I say piss off to the Haitian elite to, those thieves do not care about anyone but themselves and they got it coming for them. And I also say piss off to the Big interest countries who are doing the mettling. BUt piss off to the general population? no they can't help that. They can't help that they don't have enough food or they can't get a good education or their government does not provide them with protection. That they can't control, but trying their best to escape the situation, they can do that. If it means hopin the border or setting out to sea, so be it. Now I agree going over to DR wont help anything. You guys have enough people as it is. We got to take care of our own, but the thing is we can't. Because our leaders are idiots. But It only exacerbates it however, when Dominicans act in such an obscene manner. Think about it however, if you were place in a situation where you could not improve yourself through education or work and you heard of wonderful place down the block were you could actually get something called a job or housing wouldn't you go for it? Or would you just stay in the muck that your in. Now a note for myself, as a Haitian American who has access to higher education and is financially able to assist my countrymen and I do and will continue to do so. So just to let you know I'm not complaining from the sidelines just to be mad at someone. I know my people's situation. All I wanted to know is why do you have to make a hot fire even hotter with the antihatinismo that goes on in your country even when a person is legal. |
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| #12 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:10 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 1196 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ Quote: AyMouno previously said: Okay thank you Lautaro finally for a straight answer. THAT Makes sense. However, why be mad at the Haitians? Yeah I say piss off to the Haitian elite to, those thieves do not care about anyone but themselves and they got it coming for them. And I also say piss off to the Big interest countries who are doing the mettling. BUt piss off to the general population? no they can't help that. They can't help that they don't have enough food or they can't get a good education or their government does not provide them with protection. That they can't control, but trying their best to escape the situation, they can do that. If it means hopin the border or setting out to sea, so be it. Now I agree going over to DR wont help anything. You guys have enough people as it is. We got to take care of our own, but the thing is we can't. Because our leaders are idiots. But It only exacerbates it however, when Dominicans act in such an obscene manner. Think about it however, if you were place in a situation where you could not improve yourself through education or work and you heard of wonderful place down the block were you could actually get something called a job or housing wouldn't you go for it? Or would you just stay in the muck that your in. Now a note for myself, as a Haitian American who has access to higher education and is financially able to assist my countrymen and I do and will continue to do so. So just to let you know I'm not complaining from the sidelines just to be mad at someone. I know my people's situation. All I wanted to know is why do you have to make a hot fire even hotter with the antihatinismo that goes on in your country even when a person is legal. "Now I agree going over to DR wont help anything. You guys have enough people as it is. We got to take care of our own, but the thing is we can't" now this is where i disagree with you! the thing is you can. you need to overthrow that so called government of yours and claim the land back for haiti. for the first time in history you can actually liberate yourselves. i do not believe 1804 was true liberation with dessalines enslaving the people over an over to finally be assasinated. look at the example i always put concerning the serbian government and how the serbians overthrew them. the haitians can renounce their cowardice and actually kick some government ass!!! what do you think? |
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| #13 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:10 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3311 Posts: 37 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ To Gladiator 1804 Apr 20, Jean-Jacques Dessalines, Haitian rebel leader, commanded a massacre of the French at town of Cape Francois. It is generally thought that Dessalines had around 20,000 French slaughtered in early 1804. Check your facts |
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| #14 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:15 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4360 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ Quote: AyMouno previously said: Okay thank you Lautaro finally for a straight answer. THAT Makes sense. However, why be mad at the Haitians? Yeah I say piss off to the Haitian elite to, those thieves do not care about anyone but themselves and they got it coming for them. And I also say piss off to the Big interest countries who are doing the mettling. BUt piss off to the general population? no they can't help that. They can't help that they don't have enough food or they can't get a good education or their government does not provide them with protection. That they can't control, but trying their best to escape the situation, they can do that. If it means hopin the border or setting out to sea, so be it. Now I agree going over to DR wont help anything. You guys have enough people as it is. We got to take care of our own, but the thing is we can't. Because our leaders are idiots. But It only exacerbates it however, when Dominicans act in such an obscene manner. Think about it however, if you were place in a situation where you could not improve yourself through education or work and you heard of wonderful place down the block were you could actually get something called a job or housing wouldn't you go for it? Or would you just stay in the muck that your in. Now a note for myself, as a Haitian American who has access to higher education and is financially able to assist my countrymen and I do and will continue to do so. So just to let you know I'm not complaining from the sidelines just to be mad at someone. I know my people's situation. All I wanted to know is why do you have to make a hot fire even hotter with the antihatinismo that goes on in your country even when a person is legal. It's ok my friend, we all tend to be carried away when dealing with this thorny issue at one time or another. As for the people focusing on the weakest link of the chain (read, the inmigrants), this is starting to change, albeit at a slower pace than many people would like, but don't lose your hopes just yet. People are starting to see which are the real villains of this tragedy. Try to not be misled by all the cyber mud-slinging you see here on the web. Edited on 8/6/2009 2:18 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #15 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:18 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 1196 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: AyMouno previously said: Okay thank you Lautaro finally for a straight answer. THAT Makes sense. However, why be mad at the Haitians? Yeah I say piss off to the Haitian elite to, those thieves do not care about anyone but themselves and they got it coming for them. And I also say piss off to the Big interest countries who are doing the mettling. BUt piss off to the general population? no they can't help that. They can't help that they don't have enough food or they can't get a good education or their government does not provide them with protection. That they can't control, but trying their best to escape the situation, they can do that. If it means hopin the border or setting out to sea, so be it. Now I agree going over to DR wont help anything. You guys have enough people as it is. We got to take care of our own, but the thing is we can't. Because our leaders are idiots. But It only exacerbates it however, when Dominicans act in such an obscene manner. Think about it however, if you were place in a situation where you could not improve yourself through education or work and you heard of wonderful place down the block were you could actually get something called a job or housing wouldn't you go for it? Or would you just stay in the muck that your in. Now a note for myself, as a Haitian American who has access to higher education and is financially able to assist my countrymen and I do and will continue to do so. So just to let you know I'm not complaining from the sidelines just to be mad at someone. I know my people's situation. All I wanted to know is why do you have to make a hot fire even hotter with the antihatinismo that goes on in your country even when a person is legal. It's ok my friend, we all tend to be carried away when dealing with this thorny issue at one time or another. As for the people focusing on the weakest link of the chain (read, the inmigrants), this is starting to change, albeit at a slower pace than many people would like, but don't lose your hopes just yet. People are starting to see which are the real villains of this tragedy. absolutely and that is the sugar industry barons! |
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| #16 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:19 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4360 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ Quote: mirabal4ever previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: AyMouno previously said: Okay thank you Lautaro finally for a straight answer. THAT Makes sense. However, why be mad at the Haitians? Yeah I say piss off to the Haitian elite to, those thieves do not care about anyone but themselves and they got it coming for them. And I also say piss off to the Big interest countries who are doing the mettling. BUt piss off to the general population? no they can't help that. They can't help that they don't have enough food or they can't get a good education or their government does not provide them with protection. That they can't control, but trying their best to escape the situation, they can do that. If it means hopin the border or setting out to sea, so be it. Now I agree going over to DR wont help anything. You guys have enough people as it is. We got to take care of our own, but the thing is we can't. Because our leaders are idiots. But It only exacerbates it however, when Dominicans act in such an obscene manner. Think about it however, if you were place in a situation where you could not improve yourself through education or work and you heard of wonderful place down the block were you could actually get something called a job or housing wouldn't you go for it? Or would you just stay in the muck that your in. Now a note for myself, as a Haitian American who has access to higher education and is financially able to assist my countrymen and I do and will continue to do so. So just to let you know I'm not complaining from the sidelines just to be mad at someone. I know my people's situation. All I wanted to know is why do you have to make a hot fire even hotter with the antihatinismo that goes on in your country even when a person is legal. It's ok my friend, we all tend to be carried away when dealing with this thorny issue at one time or another. As for the people focusing on the weakest link of the chain (read, the inmigrants), this is starting to change, albeit at a slower pace than many people would like, but don't lose your hopes just yet. People are starting to see which are the real villains of this tragedy. absolutely and that is the sugar industry barons! Don't forget about the constructions consortiums, which are the biggest employers of that kind of labor nowadays. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #17 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:19 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3311 Posts: 37 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ mirabelforever- what leads you to believe that the Haitians are able to rise up without support? These elite who control everything have the army and not to mention loads of money flowing from all over the world. The only thing the general pop has a couple of sitcks a machete or two and a heart of indignation. But thats not going to get very far against a sub-automatic or rocket launcher. An on going debate now in the Haitian American community is trying to petition for dual citizenship so us guys who are able to help can go down and offer maybe not millita style support for a rebellion, but maybe a new infrastructure or healthcare. That support so more Haitians on the homeland can start becoming uppwardly mobile their.The only reason it is not comming in waves is because we can't get down their and really invest the way we want to. But... that doesn't explain why Dominicans still feel the need to spit on Haitian's faces |
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| #18 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:26 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3311 Posts: 37 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ I agree big business at the cost of the exploitation of the little guy. But... yeah it just pisses me off when I see Dominican's going at it at them mouth about how "filthy" and impoverished the Haitian is. If you see a problem instead of contributing verbal garbage do something. I know that mirabelforever mentioned the Dominican female Sex industry. I mean I see it and I'm like that's horrible no one should live like that to make a living. If their is a way to make it stop and someone proposes a plan I'm all for it. I don't cut it down. |
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| #19 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:30 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3638 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ Quote: AyMouno previously said: To Gladiator 1804 Apr 20, Jean-Jacques Dessalines, Haitian rebel leader, commanded a massacre of the French at town of Cape Francois. It is generally thought that Dessalines had around 20,000 French slaughtered in early 1804. Check your facts If you do not know about Desaalines' barbarities against the inhabitants of the former Spanish colony of Santo Domingo you need to check YOUR facts. The guy was a savage. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #20 - Posted 6 August 2009, 2:36 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3311 Posts: 37 | RE: A Question for my Dominican Brothers (And Sisters to lol) LONG QUESTION BE PREPARED TO READ technically in 1804 the Dominicans at this point did not exist because there was no DR.... they started existing in 1844 February 27th... Now their were residents who lived on the Eastern quarter of the island, but they were not Dominican specifically. So the targets of those attacks could have been anyone at the time. It was more so an attack towards the French than the Spainairds and mulattos who resided on the other side.. |
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