| #11 - Posted 19 September 2009, 6:18 PM | |
Location: Puerto Rico, Oso Blanco Rio Piedras Join date: September 2009 Member #: 3578 Posts: 672 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? You guys from Haiti just make it up as you go along You are entering the Ultra Spin Zone... |
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| #12 - Posted 19 September 2009, 7:09 PM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: June 2009 Member #: 3003 Posts: 738 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? Well I undestand the Guadeloupean and the Martiniquan creole but I got to say that the Martiniquan one is easier for haitians to undestand then the Guadeloupean one. TN1804 |
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| #13 - Posted 19 September 2009, 7:58 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? Quote: AfroLatino previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: For that question to be answered, one would have to break down the french speaking population there and see which group is the one numerically superior. Or compile an encyclopedia with both versions of french (St. Domingan and Acadian) and see which of them both have influenced the language the most over there. My bet is that Acadian is the one who have been winning the score, since almost all the linguistics out there classify the St. Domingan french as "plantation french", and put it as an almost extinct language, almost on the same level as the "Jersey dutch" (Neger Holland). Lautaro, Do you know that Guadeloupe and Martinique are France's territory or estates which speak both French and Creole as do Haiti... Yet, their Creole is not as quite anywhere near as how the Haitian Creole is close to actual French. A frenchmen would understand the Haitian Creole before the could ever even begin to make up most words in the Guadeloupe or Maritnique version of Creole which many perceive to be more or closer to French which is not true. Afro are you on drug ??? hey dominica speak creole and english, other martinique, guadeloupe, french guyana ,st martin, mauritius the difference is the accent ect.. therefore you do not speak creole, if you can not understand.. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #14 - Posted 19 September 2009, 8:00 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: You guys from Haiti just make it up as you go along that is the idea fredsy ....invent as they go along We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #15 - Posted 19 September 2009, 8:29 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? Quote: Incognito previously said: Well I undestand the Guadeloupean and the Martiniquan creole but I got to say that the Martiniquan one is easier for haitians to undestand then the Guadeloupean one. So true and exact! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #16 - Posted 19 September 2009, 8:33 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: You guys from Haiti just make it up as you go along Thus that is why it is often moot to discuss anything on here because many people on here with such a belief think they have monopoly over everyone's given explanation and that only their r words should count as truth within any debates, dialogues on here so that their words should be left uncontested while believing others' words are being made up. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #17 - Posted 19 September 2009, 8:55 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? oops I forgot st lucia they speak creole and english let me know if you do not understand anything So far I am concerned creole spoken in the antilles are very similar, however Martinique not that much really, Incognito here's an artist from martinique singing let me know if you miss anything Edited on 9/19/2009 8:58 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #18 - Posted 19 September 2009, 9:17 PM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: June 2009 Member #: 3003 Posts: 738 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? The french Creole of africa are more french then our Caraibean creole. Look at the Mauritius and the Reunion creole. It's french with tiny differences. Guadeloupean I dont know why have a lot of difference with the haitian and martiniquan creole but I still love like they talk. Aleksann, ki jan janm-aw yé dépi ou pété-y lè ou té ka koupé kann an désanm in Haitian creole it would be Aleksann,ki jann pié'w ( Janm could be used too..) yé depi ou te krazel lè'w ou tap koupé kann an Désanm Alexandre, how you leg is since you broke it in December while you were cutting sugar canes? So see it's really close. A Haitian of Port-au-price will undestand someone of les Abymes Guadeloupe... for the Martiniquan creole, some sentences never change not like the Gualoupean one. Chak chyen leche tèt afè'l jan li konnen would still be the same in martiniquan. The Martiniquan creole remind people of Cap Haitien. They speak almost the same with the " aw " of the Guadeloupean one. If you speak creole like the people of the northen Haiti, I thin you can speak all caraibean french creole. Edited on 9/19/2009 9:19 PM by Incognito. TN1804 |
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| #19 - Posted 19 September 2009, 9:18 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: Quote: Incognito previously said: Well, when I look their language, it's the same haitian kreyol with some tiny differences... I know that a great number of Lousiana Kreyol are french who escape the haitian revolution... so I think in their mind they are "French" ( even if it's not 100% true because, only the "elite" in Saint Domingue were speaking french, everybody else were speaking Kreyol, like the Sonthonax paper show it ). But for the "Black", like African americans are refering to Africa as they homeland,Louisiana Kreyol should refer for Haiti for home land? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun_French Louisiana creoles call themselves Cajuns from New Acadians or New Scotland and those guys were dispersed from Canada as driftwood after the battle of Quebec and the the French Loss on the Plains of Abraham Cajun French (sometimes called Louisiana Regional French[1]) is a variety or dialects of the French language spoken primarily in the U.S. state of Louisiana, specifically in the southern parishes of Orleans, St. Bernard, St. Charles, St. John the Baptist, Jefferson, West Baton Rouge, Pointe Coupée, Avoyelles, St. Mary, Iberia, Assumption, and St. Landry. While historically other Louisiana French dialects including Napoleonic French and Colonial or Plantation Society French have been spoken in the state, these are now considered to have largely merged with the original Cajun dialects.[2] Cajun French is not the same as Louisiana Creole.[2] Cajun French is almost solely derived from Acadian French as it was spoken in the French colony of Acadia (located in what is now the Maritime provinces of Canada and in Maine), however a significant amount of cultural vocabulary is derived from Spanish, German, Portuguese, and Haitian Creole.[3]. Cajun differs from Metropolitan French in pronunciation, vocabulary and intonation. Like some varieties of Quebec French, its variances with the Metropolitan dialect are great enough that there is not always mutual intelligibility. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #20 - Posted 19 September 2009, 9:41 PM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: June 2009 Member #: 3003 Posts: 738 | RE: Lousiana Kreyol and Haitian: Is this the same thing ? It's like saying Australian are Canadian Edited on 9/19/2009 9:41 PM by Incognito. TN1804 |
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