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Underreported: Haiti and the D R: Uneasy Neighbors on One Small Island
Underreported: Haiti and the Dominican Republic: Uneasy Neighbors on One Small Island

The Leonard Lopate Show

April 06, 2006

On today's Underreported, a look into the history of discrimination against Haitians in the Dominican Republic, and why the two neighbors are so culturally and politically different. Leonard talks to Dr. Edward Paulino, professor of history at CUNY's John Jay College; and Julissa Reynoso, an attorney and activist in New York City. She recently co-authored an article for Clamor magazine called »On Reversals: Blackness And Political Freedom On Hispaniola.


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#2 - Posted 12 February 2010, 5:18 PM
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Here's is the link to the actual article that Reynoso wrote:

http://clamormagazine.org/issues/35-5/content/people_1.php


What a shame that she thinks this way!
Edited on 2/12/2010 9:19 PM by JEM237.
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Children who are born in Germany do not automatically get German citizenship unless the parents are German....A dog born in a stable doesn't make it a horse. A Haitian born in Argentina doesn't make him Argentinean. A Dominican born in China doesn't make him Chinese. lets get real for once in our life time ..... Haitians and Dominicans don't get along because, in the past Haitians Killed everything but the Dominican Will to Resist.

Haiti is ready to offer them their free birth certificate. It's very easy!
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Here's is the link to the actual article that Reynoso wrote:

http://clamormagazine.org/issues/35-5/content/people_1.php


What a shame that she thinks this way! She's been brainwashed!

Thank you for posting the link.
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Children who are born in Germany do not automatically get German citizenship unless the parents are German....A dog born in a stable doesn't make it a horse. A Haitian born in Argentina doesn't make him Argentinean. A Dominican born in China doesn't make him Chinese. lets get real for once in our life time ..... Haitians and Dominicans don't get along because, in the past Haitians Killed everything but the Dominican Will to Resist.

Haiti is ready to offer them their free birth certificate. It's very easy!


Actually Yummuk Haiti is not ready to offer them their birth certificate even if they are born there. Most Haitians don't have identity papers in Haiti. I wonder if it's a state policy in order to rid themselves of as many of their own citizens as possible. Think about it for a minute, the more citizens with proper documentation, the more power they might have(theoretically). This is something most Dominicans don't take into account and that most foreigners ignore. Haiti should give its citizens proper documentation first.
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http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/underreported/index.html?page=27


The link above offers the listener her voice and that of Dominican born Dr Edward Paulino, professor of History at John Jay College. These two lay it on real thick against the DR. There is little defense of the DR position, even when the interviewer offers open ended questions for discussion. and the far more sinister issue for all Dominicans is that this Julissa Reynoso appears to be on the fast track to being made into a critical liaison between the USA and the Dominican Republic. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a very prestigious organization. I will not find it difficult to believe that shortly we will be reading an article, either written by her or someone in her name, in this prestigious Foreign Affairs Magazine. If this article comes, as I expect, see will undoubtedly be on fast track status. And her views are really out there: I can see her arguing for even unification of the island based on her article On Reversals: Blackness And Political Freedom On Hispaniola.

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Atabey ,here is an interesting link,she is connected to Soros of all people!!


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pdsoros.org/biopics/1999/jr.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.pdsoros.org/current_fellows/index.cfm/yr/1999&usg=__KVZDF68W3LoEBPZJKTdVceIvUJk=&h=111&w=75&sz=6&hl=en&start=4&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Ktx43aJn2qArxM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=58&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJulissa%2BReynoso%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1GGLS_enUS335US335%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1


Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera

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JEM237 previously said:

Here's is the link to the actual article that Reynoso wrote:

http://clamormagazine.org/issues/35-5/content/people_1.php


What a shame that she thinks this way!

it is a shame that she thinks the way she does and just like her lover sonia pie they both have an agenda and nothing more.
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It saddens me immensely to realize that our country is being sold under our feet and that it is not the Haitians who are primarily to blame ,instead it is the Dominicans in the government and to a greater extent those in the diaspora infected by the Afrocentric ideology who have forgotten what it means to be Dominican and the value of the blood sacrifice made by our forefathers to construct this nation we call ours . Afrocentrism is a virulent and racist ideology without national boundaries where the nationality is subservient to the racial instead of vice versa and combined with the interests of powerful nations to rid themselves of the Haitian disaster they all threaten to destroy our nation in a short time.

Duarte is being crucified, and the monsters that created Haiti will be the ones running D.R. if radical actions are not taken .
We must not be complacent and we must take action on all fronts if we are to tell our grandchildren this our land instead of crying like women what we could not defend as men!

Haitians follow their best interests but Dominicans who assist them are the most vile and traitorous scum of the earth a people who do not deserve a nation and especially the title DOMINICANOS!!

"Mientras no se escarmiente a los traidores como se debe, los buenos y verdaderos dominicanos serán siempre víctimas de sus maquinaciones"

Esto es hoy en día una realidad porque el traidor o la quinta columna es mucho mas peligroso que el enemigo externo ya que solo nos pueden quitar lo nuestro con la colabaoración de los malos Dominicanos y Dominicanas como este dúo de traidores (Reyes y Paulino) añadidos a los muchos que tenemos en este foro a los que no le dolería ver la existencia de nuestra Patria desvanecer para cumplir sus metas Afrohitlerianas de la unión de la diaspora Africana.

Entonces como durante la ocupación los mejores y mas capacitados serán los primeros en salir dejando el atraso cultural y destruyendo lo que hemos construido con uñas y garras finalmente no mejorando a Haití sino poniendo toda la isla al mismo nivel de atraso y si nosotros nos quejamos de atraso que tenemos ahora solo hay que mirar al oeste para ver el futuro que nos espera!

Nosotros podemos ganar la batalla pero solo si reconocemos que es efectivamaente una batalla y ademas que tiene múltiples frentes .El primer frente es en la política nacional donde tenemos que exigir al gobierno hacer cumplir las leyes y defender la soberanía y si no están dispuestos que se atengan a las consequencias. Este tema tiene que ser de primera importancia en el país porque si perdemos la Patria de nada vale el esfuerzo ,la modernización ni el bendito Metro porque estaríamos construyendo la casa para que otro la ocupe!
El segundo frente es contra aquellos traidores Dominicanos principlmente en el exterior que ya carecen de Dominicanidad pero se promocionan como representantes de la Dominicanidad en el exterior ,especialmente en los medios de habla Inglesa .Los Dominicanos y Dominicanas Patriotas en exterior deben encargarse que estos reciban respuestas intelligentes y contundentes que pongan en tela de juicio sus falsos testimonios a tal punto de neutralizar sus ideas.
El tercer frente es el internacional e cibernetico ,tenemos que contrarrestar las mentiras y las calumnias contra nuestra Patria promovidas por los grupos Afrocentristas y solapados por algunos malos Dominicanos .

Finalmente cada Dominicano y Dominicana en la isla puede ser útil a la causa de defensa nacional presentando quejas al gobierno y las autoridades y no quedándose apático ante la situación .Si un negocio no emplea Dominicanos para ahorrar unos centavos déjenles saber que comprarán en otro lado ! Promocionen la Dominicanidad y las oportunidades para los Dominicanos .

Cada uno tiene su papel que jugar y cada uno puede cambiar el nefasto camino que nos están trazando ,de cada uno de nosotros depende el futuro de la Patria !!



Edited on 2/13/2010 12:59 PM by Pepe32.
Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera

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Un Millón de gracias a Atabey por mantenernos informados !! Eso es lo que necesitamos información y respuesta a estos sinverguenzas,que a cada paso se encuentren con una guerra de guerrillas que entorpezca su maligno camino!
Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera

si vis pacem para bellum
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