Manhattanite previously said:



Belly can we be a bit more specific here?

Glimmertwin previously said:


Belly, it seemed to me that you sided with the author, afterall , you were the one that said that the truths in the article had to be said and that nobody says it bcs it wasnt politically correct !!!! so if you really didnt mean that , you shouldnt have said it!

it seems to me that you also say that i was offensive to you ???? Show me where ???? It seems you are looking to hard between the lines to draw some type of offensiveness.....

I think I have been on this board too long for anybody to accuse me of being offensive and I'll get members to vouch !! I have even endured being offended and havent hurled manure back , its just not my style!

I did respond out of emotion bcs BS irritates me! But it didnt make me offend anyone, what it did was limit my wrritten expression bcs it is almost mandatory to question the amount of idle resources that other African Nations have to give and offer and I already stated that Senegal almost immediately offered land!

No love lost Belly!! I'll keep my emotional crazy ways in check if you keep away from crazy controversial articles !! hahah!

JEM237 previously said:

Belly,
I consider you to be one of few rational and intelligent posters on here. However, you have to admit that not only is this Loose Cannon guy being insensitive and cruel, he is also either selectively omitting facts or he really doesn't know what he's talking about, which is shameful on his part, considering that he is supposedly an African from an African country. I am also surprised that you took such a biased stance on this article. I would"ve expected that from a right-wing nut like greenpeace but not someone such as yourself, no offense.

Okay, with that being said, Africa has a good chunk of the world's poorest countries that are being ravaged by starvation, wars, genocide, disease, famine, etc. So, it begs the question of how in the world can he or anyone for that matter expect an outpour of money and resources from most African nations if they do not have them or cannot afford to do so? I mean, which Black country aside from South Africa and perhaps now Nigeria could offer lots of money and medical assistance, mobilization equipment, etc.? I wonder why he didn't mention that Senegal donated money and offered land (as Glim also mentioned), Botswana, Mauritius, Liberia, Rwanda, Sierra Leone (yes, I said Rwanda & Sierra Leone), Namibia all donated money within their capacities and/or sent some form of aid, that while it is no where near as much as the very wealthy European nations have "given" (IT'S THE VERY LEAST THEY CAN DO, AFTER ALL THEY'VE DONE!), it is ridiculous to discredit Africa's aid or supposed lack thereof on the basis that "they are black" and should've helped more.

Also, I want to point out that while it is very true that Blacks in America and Africa have their fair share of responsibility and fault for many of their shortcomings, let's not jump out and say that whites do not owe blacks anything because that is just not completely true. That's like saying that France doesn't owe Haiti anything or that Portugal doesn't owe Angola anything, that Belgium doesn't owe the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda and Burundi anything, you get the point....

DR has provided an overwhelming response in aid because not only is it in our nature to help out our Haitian neighbors, but also because we are in much better shape then most of these African countries that provided aid. I will reiterate again that basing aid along color lines is total BS.

By the way, no one here is offending or insulting but rather criticizing your biased point-of-view regarding this article, which you should expect if you decide to post a controversial article such as this one and take the position you took.

generoso previously said:

I reread the article more slowly this time, and I really doubt that the author is a black man. Before we get all worked up with his reasonings, first he must show his face, write his real name down, so readers can double check his background and some of his statements, to offer more credibility to his words.
I suspect the article was maybe written to elicit white supremacist reactions, and spur feelings of racist
bias, mockery, ridicule, and other negative traits that we should not be baited and trapped to endorse.

Belly previously said:



First Thank you for stating your opinion with much respect is always appreciated by me to see us having different points of view yet being respectful. Now from the beginning I clearly said there are parts of the article that are simply just the truth like in example black leaders in Africa using the race card as scapegoat from their own responsibility to move their country forward regardless of what happened in the past.I'm by no means saying whites have no guild in what has happened in Africa in general or other "black countries" because they do and I have posted other threads about white supremacy here but they didn't get much attention which could lead anybody to believe that is ok to ask whites the hard question but not do the same to blacks. To me the point of the article was simple as "Loose Canon" was refering to many black leaders opposing Africa being divided into different countries yet there is another country with their own people(Haiti in this case) suffering yet he felt most African countries didn't respond better to the call and those who did were the ones with the least. The whole point to me is personally is that the writer was conveying is why were not ready to respond to this call in a much better position yet the ones their own African leaders blame for problems(whites) in Africa were the first ones to be there for Haiti and to many of their own countries when needed. Now on a personal note I was personally from my asking around to friends of mine of different races blacks,whites and latinos hoping blacks were going to be the top donors to Haiti in this time of need but to my surprise they simply were not in fact they were the least of the 3 groups yet we all living in the same country and most of them have good salaries. Many of my friends were even surprise that I donated so quick and that I was encouraging my other family members to do too. Maybe is just me personally but when disasters like this happen I feel like there are people from who I expect more than others yet it didn't happen in the scale I was hoping for. Once again Thank you for stating your opinion respectfully and by the way I have no problem being in the hot seat at times LOL

Much love and take care

mandouafrika previously said:


History shows us that Blacks overtly hate other Blacks.

Belly previously said:



The fundamental question of the article is if African leaders go around promoting all black to be united as one regardless of the geography position then why didn't it showed in this disaster. The second question is why were most black countries in no position to be the top helpers when a disaster like this happened to a "black country". The whole point of being united comes with responsibility of being there when in need. Regardless of the past each man and woman should stand on their own 2 feet and invent ways to move forward and stop using excuses why they should accept that they were not born to be the top man.

Belly previously said:



Barbados, Trinidad , Jamaica , Bahamas and others that if you followed the news closely most came out clearly saying don't try to come here. I know some have helped but if compared on a GDP basis and their standards of living most didn't give nothing or very little compared to countries like ours and and other LA countries with very little yet willing to share it.I don't know if you been to Haiti but anybody who has been there like my self can out loud say black voluntary inside Haiti are almost non-existent providing help locally, in fact on average there are more Dominican voluntary in Haiti than Haitian voluntaries in Haiti.There are many Haitian doctors and student in the medical field inside DR yet most didn't bother to go across the border after the quake.