| #21 - Posted 17 August 2010, 3:46 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10609 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti [QUOTE=Gringo_1] [QUOTE=abc200] [QUOTE=Gringo_1] [QUOTE=abc200] [QUOTE=Atabey] If France ever faced up to the challenge it would do something like this: Help Haiti and France at the same time. 1. Haiti does not have a clear energy future and France is a world Leader in Nuclear Energy. France should build and operate a nuclear plant in Haiti. Built over say a ten year period, the Nuclear facility would guarantee Haiti a secure energy future. No more cutting down trees and the degradation this deforestation has had on Haiti's ecology. French engineers, French management, and French companies would gain business. 2. Haiti has something like 80% of her people ill educated. France could initiate a 20 year plan to solve this problem. France has tens of Thousands of unemployed people. Create a mini-Marshall Plan a la France and help Haiti out of this historical inferno. 3. France should join other nations and help construct a modern transportation system for Haiti. 20 Billion over say 40 years would end this nightmare known as ancient Haiti and a New Haiti would arise. [/QUOTE] US should help Haiti - nothing to do with France! But the US is too mean! S, [/QUOTE] Why should the US help Hait and not France? After all, Haitians speak French? Where did the French language come from??????? Could you explain or back up your statement, "But the US is too mean"? [/QUOTE] Look at the history: US rule / interference for long period: http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=haiti US gives in aid as a proportion oof GDP about 50 % of other advanced nations. S. [/QUOTE I imagine the US GDP is higher. What about if you take the Gross dollars divided by the people helped, what stat do you get? I will await your answer GOOGLEMESITER. Also, why does it have nothing to do with France? Why is the US mean? Inquiring minds want to know? [/QUOTE] Idiot gringo Noway give times times as much per head of its population : UK twice. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0930884.html#axzz0wxJ911i5 Super mean US! S, |
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| #22 - Posted 17 August 2010, 4:18 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao) Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1654 Posts: 1165 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti [QUOTE=abc200] [QUOTE=Gringo_1] [QUOTE=abc200] [QUOTE=Gringo_1] [QUOTE=abc200] [QUOTE=Atabey] If France ever faced up to the challenge it would do something like this: Help Haiti and France at the same time. 1. Haiti does not have a clear energy future and France is a world Leader in Nuclear Energy. France should build and operate a nuclear plant in Haiti. Built over say a ten year period, the Nuclear facility would guarantee Haiti a secure energy future. No more cutting down trees and the degradation this deforestation has had on Haiti's ecology. French engineers, French management, and French companies would gain business. 2. Haiti has something like 80% of her people ill educated. France could initiate a 20 year plan to solve this problem. France has tens of Thousands of unemployed people. Create a mini-Marshall Plan a la France and help Haiti out of this historical inferno. 3. France should join other nations and help construct a modern transportation system for Haiti. 20 Billion over say 40 years would end this nightmare known as ancient Haiti and a New Haiti would arise. [/QUOTE] US should help Haiti - nothing to do with France! But the US is too mean! S, [/QUOTE] Why should the US help Hait and not France? After all, Haitians speak French? Where did the French language come from??????? Could you explain or back up your statement, "But the US is too mean"? [/QUOTE] Look at the history: US rule / interference for long period: http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=haiti US gives in aid as a proportion oof GDP about 50 % of other advanced nations. S. [/QUOTE I imagine the US GDP is higher. What about if you take the Gross dollars divided by the people helped, what stat do you get? I will await your answer GOOGLEMESITER. Also, why does it have nothing to do with France? Why is the US mean? Inquiring minds want to know? [/QUOTE] Idiot gringo Noway give times times as much per head of its population : UK twice. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0930884.html#axzz0wxJ911i5 Super mean US! S, [/QUOTE] Why is UK private spending less than 50% of US? Mean lobsterbacks! Also, 2002 data is a little old if you want to make a point in 2010. What is you multiplied the per capita by the number of people. What are rankings again please? |
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| #23 - Posted 17 August 2010, 4:20 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3809 Posts: 10122 | the limey loser wont answer that question ........I say we throw him over the side ....that what he deserves al capo di tutti capi de los trolls |
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| #24 - Posted 17 August 2010, 4:50 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10609 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti Quote: Blutarsky previously said: the limey loser wont answer that question ........I say we throw him over the side ....that what he deserves US are still mean trash! http://www.gatesfoundation.org/annual-letter/2010/Pages/rich-countries-foreign-aid.aspx This is Bill Gates foundation! Stupid mean trailer trash US people will not rebuild Haiti! US 0.19 %, Sweden 0.99. of GDP! S. |
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| #25 - Posted 17 August 2010, 5:17 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao) Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1654 Posts: 1165 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti I will put the thread back on track to Haiti. Which was the original point. Here is the latest information I can find using today's exchange rates and 2008 census figures. All figures are in millions and USD. This is the total aid to Haiti since earthquake Public Private Total Pop 2008 Per Cap USA 712 466 1178 307 $3.84 Norway n/a 4.1 4.8 $0.85 GB n/a 51.7 61.4 $0.84 France n/a 6.6 62.3 $0.11 How much more per capital spending do you want the US to do in Haiti before you stop the derogatory remarks against the USA? I think these figures show that France has miserably failed as a "world" leader as you recently labeled them. France should be held accountable and explain why they have fallen way short on aid to Haiti. As you point out in your earlier posts, Norway and GB have the ability to give more, but choose not to. Why is this? Please try to punch all the holes you want in the data and please correct me if I am wrong. Edit: Sorry it is formatted in original Edited on 8/17/2010 5:24 PM by Gringo_1. |
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| #26 - Posted 17 August 2010, 5:54 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10609 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti Quote: Gringo_1 previously said: I will put the thread back on track to Haiti. Which was the original point. Here is the latest information I can find using today's exchange rates and 2008 census figures. All figures are in millions and USD. This is the total aid to Haiti since earthquake Public Private Total Pop 2008 Per Cap USA 712 466 1178 307 $3.84 Norway n/a 4.1 4.8 $0.85 GB n/a 51.7 61.4 $0.84 France n/a 6.6 62.3 $0.11 How much more per capital spending do you want the US to do in Haiti before you stop the derogatory remarks against the USA? I think these figures show that France has miserably failed as a "world" leader as you recently labeled them. France should be held accountable and explain why they have fallen way short on aid to Haiti. As you point out in your earlier posts, Norway and GB have the ability to give more, but choose not to. Why is this? Please try to punch all the holes you want in the data and please correct me if I am wrong. Edit: Sorry it is formatted in original US GNP is 10 trillion dollars approx. 10, 000 billion So far they give 1 billion to Haiti! 0.01 % GNP http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWFiles2010.nsf/FilesByRWDocUnidFilename/AZHU-878SCC-full_report.pdf/$File/full_report.pdf The US DOD spends over 500 billion a year! Considering the US ruled the country for many years how generous is this given that US aid spending is so low as proportion of GNP compared with many other countries. I guess other countries know how mean the US and keep their other generous aid packages on track hoping US will forgo the idiocy of the Bush years and live up to its resonsibilities. S. S. S. |
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| #27 - Posted 17 August 2010, 6:06 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao) Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1654 Posts: 1165 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: Blutarsky previously said: the limey loser wont answer that question ........I say we throw him over the side ....that what he deserves US are still mean trash! http://www.gatesfoundation.org/annual-letter/2010/Pages/rich-countries-foreign-aid.aspx This is Bill Gates foundation! Stupid mean trailer trash US people will not rebuild Haiti! US 0.19 %, Sweden 0.99. of GDP! S. Sweden GDP = 478 billion Swedish Aid = Krona 25,039,684 - $3,380,000 Please do the math son. You have them giving more 4.0 billion which is more than the total. I think you will find as % of GDP, the US is giving more than 9x Sweden. US Aid = $1.2 bn. US GDP = 14.6 trillion. Hey, but maybe I am wrong. |
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| #28 - Posted 17 August 2010, 6:11 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10609 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti Quote: Gringo_1 previously said: Quote: abc200 previously said: Quote: Blutarsky previously said: the limey loser wont answer that question ........I say we throw him over the side ....that what he deserves US are still mean trash! http://www.gatesfoundation.org/annual-letter/2010/Pages/rich-countries-foreign-aid.aspx This is Bill Gates foundation! Stupid mean trailer trash US people will not rebuild Haiti! US 0.19 %, Sweden 0.99. of GDP! S. Sweden GDP = 478 billion Swedish Aid = Krona 25,039,684 - $3,380,000 Please do the math son. You have them giving more 4.0 billion which is more than the total. I think you will find as % of GDP, the US is giving more than 9x Sweden. US Aid = $1.2 bn. US GDP = 14.6 trillion. Hey, but maybe I am wrong. The percentage figures 0.19%, 0.99% are total aid to all programs, all countries. Sorry if I did not make this clear. |
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| #29 - Posted 17 August 2010, 6:22 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao) Join date: November 2008 Member #: 1654 Posts: 1165 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti Its ok, it wasnt clear. My figure relate to Haiti. But thread is about Haiti, where the US has given $1.2 bn or over $3.80 per every man, woman, illegal alien, and child to Haiti. Seems pretty generous to me. For Haiti alone it is more on a % gdp than all your favorite countries. You should take a break and try blaming someone else once in awhile for everything bad that happens in the world. So how much do you say the American government and the private donations by American citizens totaled in 2009? Edit Found this. Charitable donations are estimated to be 308 billion or 2.2% of GDP in 2008. I think you need to enter this into the equation. Government aid alone can not be the only measure of whether or not a country as whole donates to the needy. http://www.givingusa.org/press_releases/gusa/GivingReaches300billion.pdf Edited on 8/17/2010 6:32 PM by Gringo_1. |
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| #30 - Posted 17 August 2010, 6:56 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10609 | RE: France Asked Return Money Extorted From Haiti Quote: Gringo_1 previously said: Its ok, it wasnt clear. My figure relate to Haiti. But thread is about Haiti, where the US has given $1.2 bn or over $3.80 per every man, woman, illegal alien, and child to Haiti. Seems pretty generous to me. For Haiti alone it is more on a % gdp than all your favorite countries. You should take a break and try blaming someone else once in awhile for everything bad that happens in the world. So how much do you say the American government and the private donations by American citizens totaled in 2009? Edit Found this. Charitable donations are estimated to be 308 billion or 2.2% of GDP in 2008. I think you need to enter this into the equation. Government aid alone can not be the only measure of whether or not a country as whole donates to the needy. http://www.givingusa.org/press_releases/gusa/GivingReaches300billion.pdf 4% of this went to relief charities overseas slightly more than dogs/donkies homes and much less than than the 33% that went to chuches so ministes can run round in their big SUV's. S. |
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