Gringo_1 previously said:

Its ok, it wasnt clear. My figure relate to Haiti. But thread is about Haiti, where the US has given $1.2 bn or over $3.80 per every man, woman, illegal alien, and child to Haiti. Seems pretty generous to me. For Haiti alone it is more on a % gdp than all your favorite countries. You should take a break and try blaming someone else once in awhile for everything bad that happens in the world.

So how much do you say the American government and the private donations by American citizens totaled in 2009?

Edit

Found this. Charitable donations are estimated to be 308 billion or 2.2% of GDP in 2008. I think you need to enter this into the equation. Government aid alone can not be the only measure of whether or not a country as whole donates to the needy.

http://www.givingusa.org/press_releases/gusa/GivingReaches300billion.pdf

Gringo_1 previously said:

We can agree on the 0.20% by the federal government. However, if you take into account the 308 bn, the to total giving to charitable organizations and aid is 2.2% + 0.2% = 2.4%

According to this UK source the charitable contributions were ranked. This data is a little outdated, but fresher than yours. The top five countries as % of GDP are:

USA @ 1.67%
UK @ 0.73
Canada @ 0.72
Australiaa @ 0.69
SA @ 0.64
Rep of Ireland @ 0.47

Your beloved role model countries of Sweden, France and Norway do not even make the top five. You will have to check the link to which one is in top 10.

Now why do these "charitable" countries do not give personally? Probably a lot of reasons which include: no tax deduction on charitable donationa, high taxes, no money left after second home in mountains, etc, and citizens do not care to give because they believe the government should take care of them (ie no personal responsibility).

Since the individuals of your sacred countries are naturally stingy and mean as the above evidence suggests, then naturally their government must make up the difference in order to keep face in the international community. This could be why the government donates a high percentage of GDP.

Now, if I take your Norway figure of 0.99 and at 0.10% (which is generous), I get total giving by Norwegians of 1.09%. Now 2.4 divided 1.09 = 1.87. This means the USA gives 1.87x more than the Norway. Now, tell me who is mean, pathetic and stingy?

I think this thread is finished. Your argument has just circled the crapper. Obviously, you have an agenda, always take the low row road and do not let the facts get in the way. Good day Sir!

http://www.articleszoom.org/society/charity/comparison-of-countries-charitable-giving-living-standards-tax-rates-health-care-development/

abc200 previously said:


US giving to charitable organisations is just a tax loophole. I found a 'missionary' here supported though his rich family. The money was given to the church and guess what this money was given to this person as a stipend. His Whiskey bill was large.

Little of the money given to the churches ends up with the poor - just tv advertising etc. and fancy social events.

http://donkeyrescue.donordrive.com/

So you are stupid to think that usa is generous - yes it looks after donkies, its own college students staying in 4 star lodgings,


So USA is mean ....... with a vengence.

There is a group trying to get unversities in US to use their charitable receipts to help in Africa.

http://www.charitygovernance.com/charity_governance/2008/06/since-when-did.html

Just a little.

Will they?

No way,. New car parks for students are the priority!

S.
Donations to universities such as harvard are spent on luxurious new buildings etc.

tigerlumiere previously said:




I don't know if folks in this forum are aware of the cash distribution process vis a vis donation? A country like Haiti there is an automatic 20% of any donations is slice right from the top for the UN. By the time the cash filter down, and all the NGOs are taking care of, the amout may look good on paper; usually a waterdown percentage reach the intended target! It is not all cash, all humanitarian donations, such as food and medicine are accounted in the said amount.