Yeah, I knew of them as well but I never really thought one of their members would spotlight them in a 6-part documentary. Its my understanding that they have been faced with many derogatory and critical questions in response to their chosen lifestyle in the midst of the country's impoverished majority. Some would say it doesn't look good on their part.

Dude, I would like to side with you, but there is no need to be cruel and sarcastic. Haitians are human beings first and foremost, no matter what and we all are children of God. Hate is not a good thing, because in the end, there are no winners only losers. Hitler because of hate killed millions and in the end both the Nazi disappeared and of Jews lost their lives.

Nevertheless, the Haitian dilemma is a very unsavory issue for the DR and for most Dominicans but unfortunately the reality is that we are stuck together like siamese twins, if we fight and beat each other up we will both get hurt. We must deal with the Haitian situation in a constructive and productive manner if we are to find a way out of the mess.

Well-spoken Gui.

One point that you have made that sticks out to me is when you mentioned that the haitian minority is not well integrated in haitian culture. The sizable light skinned dominican population culturally in comparison to the haitian one makes dominicans more dominican and haitians less haitian.

Well Guillermone i'm being realistic Haiti sucks, people in Haiti that are somehow successful runaway from the place, in due time. Those few people in the video piece and ofcourse others, that have remained, will eventually leave if theirs some violent political upheavel in the future. It seems that no one wants to commit themselves in the long run, in developing the economy of the country, and that's a fact. For over 200 years it's been mostly the same story, over and over. The video only reaffirmed what i have read about the place.

Elfactor,

Well Guillermone i'm being realistic Haiti sucks, people in Haiti that are somehow successful runaway from the place, in due time. Those few people in the video piece and ofcourse others, that have remained, will eventually leave if theirs some violent political upheavel in the future. It seems that no one wants to commit themselves in the long run, in developing the economy of the country, and that's a fact. For over 200 years it's been mostly the same story, over and over. The video only reaffirmed what i have read about the place.


The problem is english is read left to right. Stop holding the books upside down and reading right to left. Then you will understand what you read.

Listen kitty, I will gladly enter into an intelligent discussion with you, but you must refrain from using derogotory language. I notice that people who tend to do that have little to no basis to support their arguments, and with no alternative left, resort to personal attacks and insults as a defense of last resort. I do not engage in that type of practice because in the end it just boils down to who can insult the best and loudest and that is just plain ghetto. Base on what you stated above it seems as though you surround yourself with people who come from a lower socio-educational stratus and these are the kind of individuals you are probably use to dealing with and I am not about to get down to that level.

I do not have the time to make a comparative analysis about which two country is better or has more successful people. It is irrelevant and a moot point at this time. Nevertheless, that issue does not need to be proven or demonstrated, the evidence is clear. There are plenty of well to do Dominican business owners, musicians, performers, artists, politicians and high profile sport figures both in the US and back in the DR. There are thousands of Dominican doctors, lawyers, engineers and accountants all over the NY tri-state area and the northern seaboard. There are just as many teachers, firemens, policemen and tradespeople as there are humble, honest, hard laboring working class people, the vast majority of Dominicans. So please don't even go there.

Now that does not mean that there is no such thing as good and successful Haitian people. I am very aware of many great Haitians and thousands who as individuals are quite worthy of merit, I do not and will never deny that. However, in general and as a group, Haitian society leaves much to be desired and over the years has performed pitifully bad to say the least. We do not need to prove that point. Certainly, the Haitian masses given the opportunity can achieve, but in Haiti the deck is stacked against them.

My recommendation for you kitty is don't waste time, stop being defensive and definitely don't make excuses or look for others to blame, accept responsibility and recognize the weaknesses and frailties which has made Haiti the poorest country in the western hemisphere. Then and only then can and will you begin to find solutions to the very serious Haitian dilemma.

Kittylumiere-What sense does it make or what do you wish to accomplish with insults, sarcasm and tongue lashing. Is this the only way you know how to communicate? Were you an abused child while you were growing up? Did your parents belittle and make you feel unworthy? If not, well it certainly seems that way.

If you really wish to become the victor over your battles, I would suggest a different approach. A truely effective soldier is armed with the sword of peace and harmony. However, in your case it is totally the opposite, every time you open your mouth it is to express anger, create animosity and discord. It is as if you just want to provoke a fight.

Instead of using this forum for negativity, let it work for you and not against you. However, unless you modify your conduct and significantly tone down quite a bit, you will achieve nothing. It just makes no sense for either you or me to continue with this discussion, unless you come with a different more approachable attitude, any effort would prove fruitless.

Nevertheless, like I have already stated, when you refrain from using derogotory adjectives, spitting venomous words and speaking with a fork tongue then and only then will I engage in a civil discourse. Otherwise we will both be spinning our wheels, going nowhere fast. I have attempted to calm and smooth things down, but it has been to no avail.

Do not continue to make demeaning and offensive remarks, it is useless and unproductive or just plain WRONG but you keep doing it anyway. My advise, If you do not agree with someone, attack the idea and not the person. ESTAMOS !!

Well, I was certainly correct, you do want to provoke a fight. But you know what, if you plan to go back, save your energy for the battle field. That is if you were not assigned to the kitchen as a special force cook or in the supply shed. You will be very useful there. Nevertheless, I am surprise you did not end up as a war fatality, I congratulate you, lucky to have made it out alive. Anyway, if you did spend time in combat, please get therapy, you are still wound up and appear to have some sort of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

By the manner of your conduct, it is clear you are were a soldier. You simply act and attack and don't think. However, this is exactly what the army wants. You see my military strategy is different from yours. Since we are not in a life or death situation, had it been the other way around I would never divulge to my enemy my position or from which direction I am coming.

But I will explain. You confuse my maneuvers with cowardice, however what needs to be understood is that conflict should be avoided, unless necessary, direct conflict is unproductive and dangers involved, but there are ways to win those confrontations when and if forced upon, but I know how to deal with it. I fight with my mind and not with physical or verbal agression. However, I pick and choose my battles.

As far as your parents are involved, I only asked a questioned, just wondering how you were raised to figure out and determine what makes your mind tick. But it appears as though it was your army experience that took a toll on you which might explain in part your reactive and instigative attitude.