And for stupidities like this is why people out there mocks Haitian escapees like you. Tell me, escapee, does a nation need having a sovereign state in order to exist? Would you have the guts of saying that the Finns didn't exist on prior centuries just because they were under Swedish/Russian yoke? Are you capable of saying that the Basques, Catalans, Assyrians, Kurds and the like aren't nations because they haven't sovereign countries of their own? And for your info, escapee, the Dominicans did put Ferrand and crew to the sword, although it would happen a few years later and for different reasons, so read first before spewing BS.

I find it ironic your praising the internet, cuz' it has been the internet the tool that has enabled the destruction of the altar in which your genocidal and petty criminal pseudo-god have been ever since the noiriste movement of the early XXth century. And it's even more ironic considering the fact that the internet is another white man's invention, so double LOL and epic fail on you.

Salio una espada en el aire desde la capital LOL morning paisa.

Aqui dando machetazos desde temprano, primo. Saludos.

Wow. So based on your logic HAITIANS were in savanna georgia. Ferrand and the French we expelled because napoleon put his brother on the Spanish throne. So what. It was ok to cross into a sovereign nation and kidnap children and force them into slavery. Nothing happened to ferrand. Read my question please.
Dessalines will always he a hero..
What does white man have to do with anything?

Some of your compatriots here (most notably, rom1804/Dominicanation and oupala) certainly thought so. If you have an issue with that, take it up with them.

The fact is, a nation is what makes a country, not the other way around.




There's no proof about easteners ever committing that foolhardy act, and I wouldn't be surprised if that claim would have ended up being another falsehood of Dessalines', as the one of the broken colonists that survived the revolution on your side of the fence being conspiring to bring about another French expedition. In other words, another excuse to go on another murderous and looting rampage of his. It's noteworthy that no single Haitian writer ever talks about him rescuing people being supposedly kidnapped by easterners, but almost every one of them talking about the 1,000 women, children and elderly he took as hostages on his return to his "kingdom".




If being defeated on the Battle of Palo Hincado and later suiciding himself before being taken prisoner by Dominican troops is your definition of "nothing happening to him", then I don't know what to tell you. And for your info, the expelling of the French from this country was mostly made by native troops.



Your harping about being grateful for the internet, when in fact you should be cursing its existence, since it has allowed for the destruction of the shrine in which your pseudo-god was elevated.



And he will forever remain a monster for Dominicans. The End.

Those "Haitians" that were in Savannah, Georgia, an episode you seem so proud of, were there because their French overlords put them there at the service of the rebel cause. Do not make any mistake about that. Men from the Spanish side of Hispaniola also fought in the American Revolutionary War. Take a look at who composed the troops commanded by Bernardo Galvez...you don't see us pulling that card out of our arses avery chance we get to..but yet it happened...and they were there serving Spanish interests, as Dessalines and them were in Savannah promoting FRENCH interests.

Please do provide us with more information about that alleged kidnapping of children and forcing them into slavery, just in case it come from the same source of “we calling Haitians to occupy us”, because we surrender before the great army that defeated the French. We agree, what happened to the natives was genocide, the same as what the African slaves lead by Dessalines did. Talking about honesty, let’s say that the 1800s people were not spectators and didn't burn Ferrand alive for implementing such an order. What about the slaves, following Dessalines’ orders to kill every white French, man, woman and children (how many were there?). They also follow the orders regarding the atrocities in our side, so honestly, what that make of the Haitians?

Anyway if I were you, I would follow your own counsel and would stop living past doubtful glories, not of mere 70 years, but more than 200 and land in the horrible present. How you and Dessaliness holiness are helping Haitians today?

No, that logic did not apply to Haitians, they have very little in common with the people Lautaro mentioned, because the slaves in the French colony came from different tribes and places and lived 8 years at most, so all the ones fighting there were long death before Dessalines. The few slaves in Santo Domingo, have a life as long as their ‘masters’, married and have children; all speak the same language, ate the same food, worshiped the same God, in short, were a people, who later were called Dominicans.

Dessaliness may always be your hero; through his atrocities you become Haitians. To us, precisely because his atrocities, he would be always a monster, for us he would always be a butcher. But luckily for you, we are different people, so keep your hero all for yourself and be happy.