| #31 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:31 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 1422 | RE: Haiti's Occupation "Haiti and Dr as far as history is concerned never really actually gone into a full out war with each other" That's an absurd statement. Maybe as far as the haitian state was concerned there wasn't a state of full all-out war in the sense that the entire state's resources were not dedicated to war but in 1844 practically the entire Dominican population was involved in seperating itseld from the haitian state in a bellicose fashion. The Dominican people, in 1844, were definitely waging all out war. “Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians" - Primo Levi |
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| #32 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:44 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 337 Posts: 596 | WE BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM HAITI IN 1844 , AFTER 22 MISERABLE YEARS. AND AFTER THAT 11 ATTEMPTS WERE MADE BY HAITIANS TO OCCUPY US AGAIN BUT FAILED UNDER CHARLES RIVIERE HERARD AND PRESIDENT PERRIOT OF HAITI WHO OVERTHREW CHARLES HERARD OUT OF POWER. ALSO THE PSEUDO EMPEROR FAUSTIN SOULOUQUE. SO KEEP ON DREAMING AND STOP DISTORTING HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS. :lol: Arcatype |
| #33 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:45 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "Haiti and Dr as far as history is concerned never really actually gone into a full out war with each other" That's an absurd statement. Maybe as far as the haitian state was concerned there wasn't a state of full all-out war in the sense that the entire state's resources were not dedicated to war but in 1844 practically the entire Dominican population was involved in seperating itseld from the haitian state in a bellicose fashion. The Dominican people, in 1844, were definitely waging all out war. That what you still consider a Revolutionary Movement, not war. For example, in 1791 Toussaint started the movement that inspired Haiti's Later-Revolutionary War with France. The battle of Vertiere is a War where there is actual direct engagement of two military institutions( Force) against one another. Like the Spanish-American situation was a War. Anything sort of that is what is called "A Movement" Lastly, show me any solid documented proof of direct engaged confrontation DR's Army had with Haiti's Army and if there are trust me I am willing to learn and eager to know. Troops massing on a border or any does not constitute war, Political and Social conflicts between two people still does not constitute to be war. They are what they are "Conflicts" and movements which often can be organized, but still is not war or what is to even be considered battle. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #34 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:48 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 1422 | RE: Haiti's Occupation "Anything sort of that is what is called "A Movement" Lastly, show me any solid documented proof of direct engaged confrontation DR's Army had with Haiti's Army and if there are trust me I am willing to learn and eager to know." El Numero, Las Carreras, El Cachiman, 27 de febrero...a few battles off the top of my head where there was a direct engament between Dominican and Haitian troops... Edited on 5/27/2008 2:59 PM by cibaeño75. “Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians" - Primo Levi |
| #35 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:48 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: arcatype previously said: WE BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM HAITI IN 1844 , AFTER 22 MISERABLE YEARS. AND AFTER THAT 11 ATTEMPTS WERE MADE BY HAITIANS TO OCCUPY US AGAIN BUT FAILED UNDER CHARLES RIVIERE HERARD AND PRESIDENT PERRIOT OF HAITI WHO OVERTHREW CHARLES HERARD OUT OF POWER. ALSO THE PSEUDO EMPEROR FAUSTIN SOULOUQUE. SO KEEP ON DREAMING AND STOP DISTORTING HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS. READ YOUR HISTORY, YU BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM SPAIN, NOT HAITI. YOU WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN THAT ROMANTIC IDEA TO SAY THAT DR GET THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM HAITI SO YOU CAN KEEP MAKING HAITI THE ENEMY AND HOLD ON TO YOUR RACIST VIEWS AND RESENTMENTS TOWARDS THEM OTHERWISE YOUR STRUGGLE AS AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE PURPOSELESS. Edited on 5/27/2008 2:49 PM by YoSoyHispanolano. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #36 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:54 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 698 | Quote: YoSoyHispanolano previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: arcatype previously said: This video below is short and detailed, but very well compiled. Great video archtype... It exposes the haitian barbarian history. Oh bravo Franco, Yes, yes, yes release that anger... That is it, keep doing just that, get it all out young man! I am glad I could help you get it all off your chest which is my intention. Understand that, energy is never actually really created nor destroyed but indeed can be wasted, yet what is a waste does not necessarily means total loss. So I encourage your outburst as it will serve a new purpose and in fact... You have not done enough to expose that energy; so do not stop there. I will not even report you for actually not being able to find alternative words to curse me out nor can you even have the courtesy to censor your own self with other symbols in your cursing words and indeed let us talk education based on that quite franco of you. (Not frankly, get it lol?). I feel a lot better knowing you go to sleep at night and wake up into your days with Haiti in mind, positive or negative, to add irreversibly your interest in Haiti's success was even a bonus so precious of your ignorance. Do you have any more negative videos of Haiti and go ahead do post them. Yes, yes, yes release that anger son... That was the opportunity you were ready and waiting for was to lash out, right... and now that you have gotten such opportunity as did and have, what is your next step; how do you now feel? Right now to cater to your anguish, I will be whatever you feel that I am or am not, come on give me more of that racist anger. Throw it all out there, for by it, it allows us as it lets us the chance to get to know you better CarlosFranco. I suppose we are better off knowing your racist stance rather than to not to. Thus, let us all hope you are feeling good right about now without any doubts that you are still feeling bad, and if that is or was to be the case; you have not done well enough and something is lacking or that you are pathetically lacking. You are my new b!tch, B!TCH ! I have your soul. Keep it up, Will Rosenberg Read the bold underlined statement of YoSoyHispanolano... Vodoo Shit going on with this dude... Thats haiti's influece on DR.... P.S. I am Catholic , my god can kick your devil's ass any day of the week. |
| #37 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:55 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, DN Join date: March 2008 Member #: 478 Posts: 402 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: YoSoyHispanolano previously said: Quote: arcatype previously said: WE BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM HAITI IN 1844 , AFTER 22 MISERABLE YEARS. AND AFTER THAT 11 ATTEMPTS WERE MADE BY HAITIANS TO OCCUPY US AGAIN BUT FAILED UNDER CHARLES RIVIERE HERARD AND PRESIDENT PERRIOT OF HAITI WHO OVERTHREW CHARLES HERARD OUT OF POWER. ALSO THE PSEUDO EMPEROR FAUSTIN SOULOUQUE. SO KEEP ON DREAMING AND STOP DISTORTING HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS. READ YOUR HISTORY, YU BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM SPAIN, NOT HAITI. YOU WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN THAT ROMANTIC IDEA TO SAY THAT DR GET THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM HAITI SO YOU CAN KEEP MAKING HAITI THE ENEMY AND HOLD ON TO YOUR RACIST VIEWS AND RESENTMENTS TOWARDS THEM OTHERWISE YOUR STRUGGLE AS AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE PURPOSELESS. So, You are not Haitian? |
| #38 - Posted 27 May 2008, 2:57 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 337 Posts: 596 | RE: Haiti's Occupation MR. HAITIANO AS ALWAYS IN DENIAL 11 ATTEMPTS AT TRYING TO OCCUPY THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ALL FAILURES. THEN AFTER THAT NOTHING, YOUR ASSES CONTINUED YOUR TIRADE OF OVERTHROWING GOVERMENTS AND BECOMING MORE POOR! AFTER THAT THE U.S. INVADED YOU, AND DID YOU A FAVOR BUILT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COUNTRY. ONLY TO SEE THE SAME CRUMBLE WHEN PAPA DOC-DUVALIER WAS IN POWER, THEN AFTER THAT THE REST IS HISTORY!!!!! Arcatype |
| #39 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:00 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "Anything sort of that is what is called "A Movement" Lastly, show me any solid documented proof of direct engaged confrontation DR's Army had with Haiti's Army and if there are trust me I am willing to learn and eager to know." El Numero, Las Carreras, El Cachiman, 30 de Mayo...a few battles off the top of my head were there was a direct engament between Dominican and Haitian troops... Those were still movements and combined efforts of the masses. to be at war, you would have had to establish and actual form of military and somewhat an actual government of some sort as in there has to be a leader to declare the war. Many battles are not considered to be Wars simply and especially if they are being conducted by the means of the mass. Once again, even in Haiti you could say there were a lot or precedents movements that led to an actual war with France and even when the US occupation there was not an actual war between Haiti and US but movements to incited the departure of that occupying force. To say the least my cousin's great grand father Charlemagne Peralte of Hinche was part of a movement in fighting the US Marines which were and occupying force that were in Haiti. They killed him, put him on a door in a crucification like manner and dragged him in the streets to demoralize other Haitian movement groups or efforts. Do not give me what is from up top your head, please give me an actual link (Other than Wiki) so that I could go read up on those so called Haitian, DR wars you are claiming to have happened which are not wars and I say they are what you call separatist rebellious movements. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #40 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:00 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 698 | Quote: YoSoyHispanolano previously said: Quote: arcatype previously said: WE BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM HAITI IN 1844 , AFTER 22 MISERABLE YEARS. AND AFTER THAT 11 ATTEMPTS WERE MADE BY HAITIANS TO OCCUPY US AGAIN BUT FAILED UNDER CHARLES RIVIERE HERARD AND PRESIDENT PERRIOT OF HAITI WHO OVERTHREW CHARLES HERARD OUT OF POWER. ALSO THE PSEUDO EMPEROR FAUSTIN SOULOUQUE. SO KEEP ON DREAMING AND STOP DISTORTING HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS. READ YOUR HISTORY, YU BECAME INDEPENDENT FROM SPAIN, NOT HAITI. YOU WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN THAT ROMANTIC IDEA TO SAY THAT DR GET THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM HAITI SO YOU CAN KEEP MAKING HAITI THE ENEMY AND HOLD ON TO YOUR RACIST VIEWS AND RESENTMENTS TOWARDS THEM OTHERWISE YOUR STRUGGLE AS AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE PURPOSELESS. Jose nunez cabral declared independence from spain when spain under the treaty of basel gave the eastern side to France.... 8 weeks later you assholes invaded, on France's behalf, or so your liberator claims.... and Duarte declared our independence from you in 1944... thats the one independece that was realized. Hispaniola means little spain in Latin.... You're not anywhere from Spain.... If any you were the slaves of the French so stop Hispanicize your african culture |