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#51 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:35 PM
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CIBAENO75 THE MORE THAT I READ YOUR POST THE MORE I AM CONVINCED THAT YOU ARE NOT DOMINICAN OR FULLY DOMINICAN ARE YOU HATIAN BY ANY CHANCE? BECAUSE YOU SURE ARE EMBARESSING THE HELL OUT OF DOMINICANS, EVERY WORD THAT YOU UTTER IS PRO-HAITIAN. AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING! YOU COULD DISTORT HISTORY ALL YOU WANT, REALITY IS IN YOUR FACE THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC WAS ESTABLISHED AS A COUNTRY IN 1844. HAITI WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1804 AND DESPITE THE LATTER BEING THE OLDEST. TODAY IT'S THE TRASH BIN OF THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE WHY! BECAUSE THEY ARE A BUNCH OF SAVAGES THAT OPERATE UNDER A RACIST IDEALOGY, THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THIS CONFUSED HAITIAN TALKING NONSENSE!!!!!
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#52 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:36 PM
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"Jose nunez cabral declared independence from spain when spain under the treaty of basel gave the eastern side to France.... 8 weeks later you assholes invaded, on France's behalf, or so your liberator claims.... and Duarte declared our independence from you in 1944... thats the one independece that was realized."

A few corrections Mr. Franco. It's Nuñez de Caceres, not Nuñez Cabral, and Nuñez de Caceres declared independence from Spain in 1821, some 26 years after the treaty of basel whereby that dirtbag, the queen's paramour, Godoy gave our side of the island over to the insidious french...the person that invaded on supposedly france's behalf which you are refferring to has to be louverture but you wrote it in such a way as to suggest it is actually Boyer who you are referring to, who was the individual who occupied the spanish part of the island shortly after Nuñez de Caceres declared independence from Spain and called for a union with Gran Colombia. Interestingly enough the name Nunez De Caceres chose for the new nation he was attemting to seperate from Spain was "Haiti Español", or Spanish Haiti.

On a side note it is only with time that Duarte has come to be viewed as the father of the Dominican nation. Before the annexation to Spain Pedro Sanatana was known as "El Libertador" and the Dominican congress even had a sword given to Santana with those very words etched on it. Had it not been for Santana so foolishly handing over the country to spain in 1861, thereby effectively destroying his historical legacy to his people, we might still be talking about Santana "El Libertador" today.
Edited on 5/27/2008 3:39 PM by cibaeño75.
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#53 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:38 PM
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"EVERY WORD THAT YOU UTTER IS PRO-HAITIAN"

Show me what I said that was pro-haitian. Mind you, citing history is no indication of being pro anything. If anyone is embarrassing Dominicans and themselves on here it is you. I have already debunked you several times and am only now addressing you out of boredom.
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#54 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:38 PM
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"SO THANK PEDRO SANTANA FOR THAT IF NOT YOU WOULD OF BEEN LIVING IN A DESERT PARADISE EATING MUD COOKIES HALF RETARDS!!!!! "

You honestly think anyone should thank the traitorous Santana for giving us back to Spain?!? A whole generation of brave Dominicans which history has dubbed "restauradores" would disagree. The reannexation to Spain was a folly and all it did was leave the country in ruins.



Better Spain than Haiti, the US, or France....

Santana was not the only one who sought refuge in the hands of a world power.... You have to understand the time... DR had been invaded constanly from haiti, power struggle between the differenct factions.... at least when the crown was in charge many of these atrocities did not occur which is why Santana tried to annexed the country... There's no doubt that he also did it out of ambition but his part for defending the nation after Duarte was gone can not be underrated.

This can be similar to what happened in Africa after the Europeans left the new Black republics started murdering each other, and many wished the europeans back because these atrocities did not take place... Again Cibaeno you have to understand the time in order to understand santana's actions.

Dominican Authors Ernersto Saga and Orlando Inoa... Wrote in their book "The Dominican People: A documentary History: That Santana fails to be a hero of the republic because of his annexation to Spain otherwise he would be a remember as a liberator by all dominicans.


ONCE AGAIN, DEFINE CONTRADICTION.
As far as Earnesto Saga's book is information for you o digest and reflect upon to show you how much of a fool you are making of yourself.

Look at DR's Political history and with Haiti's history you will they both have had almost the same amount of Coups and un-rests even Presidential assassinations. A total paradox in similarity in National Political built if you will... but someone as narrow minded such as yourself with your deep racism blinding and clouding you, you will not see it nor ever accept even the observation of it; thus a waste of breath.
Edited on 5/27/2008 3:38 PM by YoSoyHispanolano.
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#55 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:40 PM
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CIBAENO75 SO NOW YOUR PARTIALLY COMING TO YOUR SENSES!
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The Dominican Republic has much in common with the nations of Latin America (with which it is often grouped), and some writers have referred to the country as a microcosm of that region. Dominicans have experienced political and civil disorder, ethnic tensions, export-oriented booms and busts, and long periods of military rule, including a Haitian occupation (1822–44), the oppressive dictatorship of Rafael Trujillo (1930–61), and military interventions by the United States (1916–24 and 1965–66). However, the nation's troubles have paled in comparison with those of neighbouring Haiti. The two countries have long been strategic because of their proximity to the United States and their positions on major sea routes leading to the Caribbean and the Panama Canal.
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#57 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:42 PM
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MR. HAITIAN WHATEVER? SHOULD I ANSWER THAT BULLSHIT NO!!!!!
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#58 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:44 PM
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YOU HAVENT DEBUNKED ME ONCE!
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#59 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:46 PM
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You honestly think anyone should thank the traitorous Santana for giving us back to Spain?!? A whole generation of brave Dominicans which history has dubbed "restauradores" would disagree. The reannexation to Spain was a folly and all it did was leave the country in ruins.

If that statement is coming from a Dominican, I would say it has exposed the great contradictory confusion DR has. Because, I thought the whole notion was to rather give it to Spain than to let Haiti have it, yet it was given to Spain but then again it still does not satisfy and justify the means and intention why it was given to Spain in the first place...?

Who ever stated this comment should stop while he/she is ahead because it is proven that such a person is in limbo and not knowing what they want.
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#60 - Posted 27 May 2008, 3:48 PM
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"Santana was not the only one who sought refuge in the hands of a world power.... You have to understand the time... "

You have to understand the time. Santana and his party were pretty much on their way out. The annexation to Spain was their ploy to remain in power but unfortunately for Santana he failed to realize what type of role he would play in the Spanish beuracracy that would come to govern the island. Sanatana knew damn well that the Dominican state needed no help fending off haiti. We had already been succesful in doing so for some 17 years by the time Santana gave DR back to Spain and Soulouque had already been deposed by this time by men who let it be known that they had no intention of invading their neighbor. Every one, even Santana's party, became disillusioned with the Annexation over time. It was a disaster with no merit whatsoever.
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