| #81 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:15 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: arcatype previously said: THE REASON WHY WE CONSIDER OUR DAY OF INDEPENDENCE FROM HAITI AS MORE IMPORTANT IS OBVIOUS, HAITI IS TO OUR WEST, SPAIN IS AN OCEAN AWAY. SPAIN WAS TO BUSY FIGHTING FRANCE AND NAPOLEON TO WORRY ABOUT OUR STATE OF AFFAIRS, JUST AS THE OTHER SPANISH COLONIES THAT HAD BECOME INDEPENDENT EARLIER THEN US. PEDRO SANTANA FELT THAT A PROTECTORATE WOULD SECURE THE COUNTRY FROM FURTHER ATTEMPS AT AN OCCUPATION FROM HAITI, ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY WAS HIS TREATMENT OF LOS TRINITARIOS FOUNDERS. AND ON TOP OF THAT THE REINCORPORATION BACK TO SPAIN. BUT ALL IN ALL PEDRO SANTANA IS A HEROE IN THE HEARTS OF MANY DOMINICANS JUST LIKE THE TRINITARIOS FOUNDERS AND FOLLOWERS. So there you go Arc-A-Type and thank you and as you have said to put this to rest "THE REASON WHY WE CONSIDER OUR DAY OF INDEPENDENCE FROM HAITI AS MORE IMPORTANT IS OBVIOUS, HAITI IS TO OUR WEST, SPAIN IS AN OCEAN AWAY" thus still does not make it so that Dr gained her Independence from Haiti which you hate passionately so much. So it is more so a shifting redirected hatred based on those same past resentments of the history of both Nations which nowadays have turned totally racial more so than the actual political and social resentments themselves that divided them in the first place. Lastly as you have put it "ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS HIS TREATMENT OF LOS TRINITARIOS FOUNDERS AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE REINCORPORATION BACK TO SPAIN. BUT" thus I stood corrected to prove there has been division in differences in the views of even DR's liberators which has created with great influx and contributed in DR's own political turmoils. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
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| #82 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:16 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 337 Posts: 596 | RE: Haiti's Occupation TO: JABAOHAITIAN THIS HAS TO DO MORE WITH SELF IDENTITY THEN HATE, DOMINICANS NEVER INVADED HAITI OR WANTED TOO. HAITI INVADED US SEVERAL TIMES AND FINALLY OCCUPIED US FOR 22 YEARS. IF IM NOT ACCEPTED IN A PLACE I WILL NOT PERSIST ON ENTERING A COUNTRY OR ESTABLISHMENT I WILL TAKE MY ASS BACK WHERE I BELONG!!!!! Edited on 5/27/2008 5:21 PM by arcatype. Arcatype |
| #83 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:21 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: Manhattanite previously said: Hispanolano, to quote Billy Madison: "What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/movie_sounds/sounds_files_20080520_1013824/billy_madison/dumbest.wav AS you are subject to your own opinion you have to specifically point out where and what I have said which is insanely idiotic and to give you credit it may seems to to someone I am not privy to not being able to constructively say insane things lol and if it is preposterous the proper way to do that even while I accept your insult rant is to put your opinion and to the table...You see, you guys and that goes for all of us; we get a better kick at going at each others throats than to be constructive which is why I value the views, agreement or disagreements I may have with Lautaro any day because this guy as it appears do not strike me to stem from the racist norms of most Dominicans. All I said was DR goes back in forth in showing great disapproval for Pedro Santana and yet comes around and contradict themselves by embracing him as well... If I am wrong which I may be, simply separately show the pros and cons of Pedro and even then you will see that DR's hatred towards Haiti has proven to be just redirected anger. Oh by the way, your link did not work. What was it about? Edited on 5/27/2008 5:25 PM by YoSoyHispanolano. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #84 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:21 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: December 2007 Member #: 160 Posts: 711 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Carlos, You are asking for a cocotazo from almighty jabao...keep it up buddy..listen your comments are childish and elementary at best. The metro was built in time due to haitian cheap labour...btw, ok whats the point..is the metro a sign of progress when there are other priorities..let's cross our fingers and hope this wasn't a waste of money like numerous things..faro a colon comes to mind..I hope you know where that is... Hispanolo..dude what can i say about you..dude please get help..for real man..ok im not saying u aren't what u are but who gives a damn..beside you did mess up Ny4life's thread..he was referring to dominican women..not the other kiskeyanas that are hot and welcoming..between the three of you stooges I am going to starting giving triple cocotazos with a prestige or presidente bottle..jajjaja..ok proceed..i have my popcorn and fria... Just calling it how I see it...continue peasants.. |
| #85 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:27 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: Manhattanite previously said: And the same is true for much of the output of Arcatype and Franco. Thank you for acknowledging that. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #86 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:48 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Carlos, You are asking for a cocotazo from almighty jabao...keep it up buddy..listen your comments are childish and elementary at best. The metro was built in time due to haitian cheap labour...btw, ok whats the point..is the metro a sign of progress when there are other priorities..let's cross our fingers and hope this wasn't a waste of money like numerous things..faro a colon comes to mind..I hope you know where that is... Hispanolo..dude what can i say about you..dude please get help..for real man..ok im not saying u aren't what u are but who gives a damn..beside you did mess up Ny4life's thread..he was referring to dominican women..not the other kiskeyanas that are hot and welcoming..between the three of you stooges I am going to starting giving triple cocotazos with a prestige or presidente bottle..jajjaja..ok proceed..i have my popcorn and fria... Just calling it how I see it...continue peasants.. JabaoHaitian, Lol, for some reason you always seem to think or assume I am gloating or basking in the fact that I am Haitian-Dominican. What is up with that, kid? You might want to go check NY4LIFE's thread again the one where it says clearly "Quisqueya La Bella" yeah, that one and read what I had to say if you so wish to do so. Second, you seem to always want to flip flop as to evade from having Dominicans on this site lashing at you thus focusing on me proves to be less risky It appears. Look, if somebody ask me of who and what I am, I am entitled to let them know as to it not being in any way any signs of glorified complex to being what I am oaky. To be stuck on it yourself is pervasively annoying as though it is directed to you personally each time in effect, I think you are the one who needs help man. Because you cannot seem to let go of my nuts. Listen guy, today I am not going to give you the satisfaction of wasting my breath engaging into a sparing testicle contest with you. If I am proud for who I am well, I suppose that is why I made a signature setting. What do you actually want from me, guy? To suggest that I have an Identity crisis is absurd, and if for argument sake that was to be the case, well at least it stays fixated and focus on the appropriate Island and place that I know to be my homeland. and you chose which ever you deem the appropriate name as I say, Hayti, Quisqueya, Bohio or Hispaniola/ Hispanola. I am done and away with you "dude" This is a battle you may have ad win if you must. I am not in your way, am I? Thus if you must jut grab your popcorn and fria and simply observe the exchanges on this thread that will serve best as I said several times. "Your playing small and shifting shapes does not and will not elude many Dominicans from discriminating against you or I for that matter for having the Haitian blood. Have the last word, QuisqueyanoYoSoy. PS: Why do you always talk down to peasants the way you do? Haiti is in the crisis that it is because people like you make Rural Provincial Hard Working Peasants to feel inferior why most of them have ceased to work the land to produce National reliant productions for Haiti to start becoming self-sufficient from foreign dependency and importation. Each time you do that, you are contributing to the Elite views of those respectable Countryside Countrymen Peasants whoa re the Country's backbone and always have been. Come on man, no self respectable citizens of any respectable Country or Nations would ever dissed their precious peasants or use the word with relations to negativism is they did not themselves have a discriminative complex toward those poor admiring peasants. For that I am disappointed in you! Edited on 5/27/2008 5:58 PM by YoSoyHispanolano. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #87 - Posted 27 May 2008, 5:49 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 337 Posts: 596 | RE: Haiti's Occupation JABAOHAITIANO WHAT YOU HAVE DIAL UP, YOU JUST DONT SEEM TO IMPRESS YOURSELF. CALLING PEOPLE PEASANTS! THE HAITIAN ELITE ON THE HILL. YOU ARE PATHETIC ALONG WITH YOUR COMPATRIOTS THAT THINK LIKE YOU. Arcatype |
| #88 - Posted 27 May 2008, 6:01 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: arcatype previously said: JABAOHAITIANO WHAT YOU HAVE DIAL UP, YOU JUST DONT SEEM TO IMPRESS YOURSELF. CALLING PEOPLE PEASANTS! THE HAITIAN ELITE ON THE HILL. YOU ARE PATHETIC ALONG WITH YOUR COMPATRIOTS THAT THINK LIKE YOU. Wow, I suppose I would have to agree with Arc-a-Type on this one, golly lol!!! You see what you have done Jabao, I hope you choke on the Pop Corn lol. Would I have to my enemy Arc-A-Type closer? Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |
| #89 - Posted 27 May 2008, 6:14 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 698 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: JabaoHaitian previously said: Carlos, You are asking for a cocotazo from almighty jabao...keep it up buddy..listen your comments are childish and elementary at best. The metro was built in time due to haitian cheap labour...btw, ok whats the point..is the metro a sign of progress when there are other priorities..let's cross our fingers and hope this wasn't a waste of money like numerous things..faro a colon comes to mind..I hope you know where that is... Hispanolo..dude what can i say about you..dude please get help..for real man..ok im not saying u aren't what u are but who gives a damn..beside you did mess up Ny4life's thread..he was referring to dominican women..not the other kiskeyanas that are hot and welcoming..between the three of you stooges I am going to starting giving triple cocotazos with a prestige or presidente bottle..jajjaja..ok proceed..i have my popcorn and fria... Just calling it how I see it...continue peasants.. So that means that Haiti can built its own Metro, just cause the dug the tunnels??? Since i have to spell it out for you, I meant to say, that the political climate isn't the same as in Haiti's as was suggested by Hispaniolo-jewish-martian. You should thank leonel for allowing haitians to be employed. |
| #90 - Posted 27 May 2008, 6:22 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 707 Posts: 180 | RE: Haiti's Occupation Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: YoSoyHispanolano previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "SO THANK PEDRO SANTANA FOR THAT IF NOT YOU WOULD OF BEEN LIVING IN A DESERT PARADISE EATING MUD COOKIES HALF RETARDS!!!!! " You honestly think anyone should thank the traitorous Santana for giving us back to Spain?!? A whole generation of brave Dominicans which history has dubbed "restauradores" would disagree. The reannexation to Spain was a folly and all it did was leave the country in ruins. Better Spain than Haiti, the US, or France.... Santana was not the only one who sought refuge in the hands of a world power.... You have to understand the time... DR had been invaded constanly from haiti, power struggle between the differenct factions.... at least when the crown was in charge many of these atrocities did not occur which is why Santana tried to annexed the country... There's no doubt that he also did it out of ambition but his part for defending the nation after Duarte was gone can not be underrated. This can be similar to what happened in Africa after the Europeans left the new Black republics started murdering each other, and many wished the europeans back because these atrocities did not take place... Again Cibaeno you have to understand the time in order to understand santana's actions. Dominican Authors Ernersto Saga and Orlando Inoa... Wrote in their book "The Dominican People: A documentary History: That Santana fails to be a hero of the republic because of his annexation to Spain otherwise he would be a remember as a liberator by all dominicans. ONCE AGAIN, DEFINE CONTRADICTION. As far as Earnesto Saga's book is information for you o digest and reflect upon to show you how much of a fool you are making of yourself. Look at DR's Political history and with Haiti's history you will they both have had almost the same amount of Coups and un-rests even Presidential assassinations. A total paradox in similarity in National Political built if you will... but someone as narrow minded such as yourself with your deep racism blinding and clouding you, you will not see it nor ever accept even the observation of it; thus a waste of breath. Yesss lets look at both countries political history..... uhhhhh I've never heard of Dominicans flocking to haiti... I never heard of a Metro in Haiti.... I've never heard of Dominicans wanting to be Haitians.... I've never heard countless of things... You're confused.... Do you feel better in thinking DR and Haiti are the same.... Is cock bigger cuz you think you're dominican... Answer me this... WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE PART OF A SOCIETY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO BE PART OF YOU?????? POLITICAL history, you idiot; not SOCIAL.. As a matter of fact Haiti had the first Train Transit system on the Island --- you are wrong on that, little do you obviously know of Haiti. That transit train system was a Production of Sugar Company called HASCO. Dominicans have naturalized in Haiti and even served in Haitian Governments --- Wrong on that again. As a matter of fact read up in the clash between Juan Bosch and Francois Duvalier to see that Haiti has a strong Dominican based community in Haiti which by the way Dominican goes into Haiti back and forth undocumented without the exception that even today Haiti has the highest rate o Dominican Prostitutes in Haiti in the whole Caribbean --- you would think a poor Country such as Haiti that most Dominicans feel such a strong hatred for that Country and with Haiti's devastating poor economy Dominican Prostitutes still find their way into Haiti. So I would not go there to say this is not at all a part of a debate you could win. Lastly and unfortunately or perhaps I should say FORTUNATE that when we are born we do not get to chose our own skin color, our parents and wealth. As even JabaoHaitian tries to be stuck on that same subject in thinking that I am gloating in being who I am, but to answer your question I did not ask for my mother's mother and her family to be Dominicans nor did I ask for my mother to have been born in the Dominican Republic. I did not ask for my father family to be Jews. I am who I am regardless if in your racist view and mind it is not valid and that goes for any Haitians as well who wish to use that against me. Since you are inquiring and wish to know about me, you indignant racist prick. Me being who I am is not to flatter the likes of DR or Syria or Isreal. Edited on 5/27/2008 6:27 PM by YoSoyHispanolano. Wilgeens Rosenberg "That Dominican-Haitian-Jewish Kid" YoSoyHispanolano Wilgeens.Rosenberg@gmail.com |