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Yes, indeed you are right. However, but me bashing those Haitians on here is not at all aiming at any strong negativism or hatred, no. You have to understand, Haitians always think they can put you out on blast and all most of them are good for is talk with no actions.

My friend indeed Haitians can be very strong minded people,but we are talking about different kind of breed of Haitians here nowadays who would rather play victims all the time than to start engaging in the movement for change in the Country. We have those diaspora all Americanized Haitian who do not have any true intentions and goals for Haiti and all they do is post blogs of what they wish for Haiti instead of what they will and can do for Haiti. They do not care for Haiti. All that care and love they express is only for show of words since they will and cannot admit how pitifully sorry and ashamed they are of Haiti.

Prime example, how many of them actually answered to the questions as to what they are doing, can or will do to Help Haiti? Exactly, none; thus they have every reason to be ashamed.

LET US HEAR YOUR ACTIVE GOAL FOR HAITI IS WHAT MY QUESTION IS AND STILL PERTAINS TO THIS THREAD AS FAR AS WHAT THE DAILY LIFE IN HAITI IS. IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME OLD ALL TALK AND FAKE PROTOCOLS ANDNO ACTIONS.
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To make it simple i believe the haitian constitution needs to be modified. It should allow the diaspora to be involved in politics. Haitans in other countries can't be involved in haitian politics in haiti if they have dual citizenship. You can't blame the diaspora all that much, if the government doesn't want them too involved in their processes

You can only help someone who needs help, Haiti needs a leader who wants to learn how to fish, how to make the country better. No more handouts, but working for the betterment of haiti. Our plans are meaningless unless the government wants to make the country better. Instead of making their personal wealth better.
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Anonymous, thank you. At least you whom I am assuming may not be Haiti made your valid point. And even if you were Haitian. You feel me? Granted that Haiti does not allow dual citizenship in the Government is still no excuse why a Diaspora can not get involved in other ways that do not have to be Governmental and which does not require this any kind of process of Citizenry.

Those Haitians in the Diaspora still go to Haiti when they want to go on Field trips and boast their sense of superiority on the regular mass when they go to Haiti showing off and pretend to act calssy with pretentious fake accents when they speak creole when they do go to Haiti so that people can know they are not living in Haiti. They allow their children to grow up in America with no kinds of Haitian teachings so that those kids can know of where they came from.

One thing I know about the Dominicans or other nations living anywhere else around the globe they never cease to educate their children about home and those children always grow up to see the pride thus which is why in returns kids like perhaps you and other Dominicans can still feel attached to home even though or if they have never been to Dominican Republic themselves.

AS A HAITIAN WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, CAN OR WILL DO TO CHANGE THINGS FOR HAITI?

Do not let those Haitians fool you. They will always talk and place blames. Yes, indeed Governments have their end of the bargain to meet at the highest level, but a group of people without will in a Country like Haiti at the stage that she is at right now is bound to the eventuality of going no where. Simply because, not all involvements in Haiti has to be at a Government level. Thank you Anonymous and watch this question still stands above.

You will always hear Haitian say "They Wish and Hope", but have you ever heard them ever say instead "This Is What I am Going To Do" or "This Is What I Can Do"? Even if it was in hypothetical sense for just mere talks and rosy dreams; their vocabulary never involve these words as in "I will, I can or I Have" Huh, why is that?

Instead you will read and hear statements like this and here is one example and perfect quote:
"Haiti will only progress when we stop our mindless division and unite. Just like it says on our flag "L'Union Fait la Force". We need to live by those words to get our economy going. I believe the day that Haiti will become stable and have a modern, properous economy is the day when the greatly diminish their reliance on the United States"

Statement like this is rhetorical and does not project any vindication of someone who actually individually do for Haiti. No direct personal attack intended JeMeSouviens, so chill and no need to lash out. However...

IT IS STILL JUST ONE QUESTION TO ALL THE HAITIANS BEFORE I GROW UP AND GET REAL AND I WILL WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS :

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, CAN OR WILL DO TO CHANGE THINGS FOR AND IN HAITI?

I HOPE SOME OF YOU CAN READ KREYOL GOOD ENOUGH TO STILL BE ABLE TO READ THIS EVEN THOUGH THE PUNCTUATIONS OR ACCENTS ARE NOT THERE ON THE LETTERS.

An nou leve Ayiti paske li pap leve tet li poukont li.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5qn2gfBT9o

Nou tout ta vle pou Ayiti chanje, men nou pa janm di ak fe sa ki nesese pou nou ka rive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsxWdg_Fw2U

Mwen te kwe nou te konn di "Ayiti Cheri, pi bel peyi pase ou nan pwen e se nan pye-w pou-m vinn mouri." Koman fe se na peyi etranje nap mouri ko nou? Kile nap fe chimen lakay?
http://www.haitiantreasures.com/Lakou_Lakay3.swf

Si nou pa travay late a nou pap ka manje. Jodi-a nou we sa. Li nan tout nouvel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkexFZmspE

Ase mande kisa Ayiti ka fe pou nou, an nou mande pito kisa nou ka fe pou Ayiti dekwa yon jou pitit nou ka jwi Ayiti pi byen ke nou. Kisa'w ka fe pou Ayiti vinn pi bon demen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-nxX98McIY

Chita pale anpil pa bay, tout bel ak vye critik yo pap sevi ou regle anyen. Men sa nou beswen fe, an nou fe li deja.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k19T2PIylc

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, ARE DOING, CAN DO AND WILL DO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND CHANGE IN HAITI?

All,
I'm new to this forum and I read everyone's comments. I read all about living in Haiti, the situation and the racism. Haitians are very proud of their heritage and I applaud them. However, that pride can also become arrogance. I have noticed that Haitians of a darker complexion feel that the island only belongs to them and if you are of mixed race you are not Haitian. Many forget or many are not aware of their own history. The island belonged to the Tainos ( the real Haitians) and later it was populated by the Spaniards, the French ( who brought along the Polish), the British, the Africans. Haiti is a multicultural and multiracial island.

Haitians are stuck in the past (1806). Many have this arrogance about being the first independent nation and continue to use the same tactics of 1806....burning, looting and destroying everything in their paths. Many Haitians still have the SLAVE MENTALITY. Who burns and destroys their belongings? definitely not a proprietor.
Analyze the recent food riots, who were the ones running on the street, burning and looting. Who destroyed the Air France lounge, the Voila offices, the Tiger Mart and the gas stations. They were all Haitians with the SLAVE MENTALITY.

Many want to play the race/color game all the time. If you are born of mixed race, it is your PEROGATIVE to decide which side you can identify. It is your PEROGATIVE to feel comfortable in your own skin. TO THINE OWN SELF BE TRUE

I am sorry to bust your bubble, but i am not the "stereotypical" dark complexion haitian for thinking the west side belongs to haitians. Yes, I have been told by dominicans and others that I "don't look haitian" which i think is one of the most ignorant comments. I am aware of haitians mixed ancestry as well as my history. I refuse to have someone bashing haitians for the sake of argument. Before you make hasty conclusions of haitians having the Slave Mentality. Look at how many dominicans on this site who deny any african roots. I know a dominican who is darker than me, who told me I am black because im haitian, and they are not black because they are dominican. I am not bashing you SB212, but the slave mentality is found throughout the island. In DR, you have to be light skinned and with good hair, if not you are not a real dominican. That mentality comes from white masters to segregate their slaves. Haitians have their faults and in history did a lot of wrong things
That's a pretty good mentality for a country with over 80% of the population being of african ancestry.

Although I disagree with you with some things, I would like to say that the slave mentality needs to go. We are in the 21st century, haitians should get educated and not burn tires and riot for everything. Destroying your own personal property is like shooting yourself in the foot. As for mullatos, I have nothing against them, part of my family and who i am, yet to be haitian is to want what is best for your country. That is my definition of a haitian, if you are white, black, white, arab, or jew and you want the best for haiti, you are my friend and you can call urself a haitian if you were born there or not. I also, think that DR should be a prosperous country, I have no ill will in DR, but from this forum I learned that both people love their side because our masters told us to. Like i summarize Haiti and DR, its 2 kids with the same Mother but different fathers. In our cases the father is Spain and France which governed the way we thought. All in all, peace a prosperity to the whole island. And haitians should learn to be civil with their belongings and not always riot and cause instability in their country

Burning tires happen in DR too. Is DR better off than haitians, yes, and i can not deny that. There's a good article about roads not being made and how dominicans were burning tires. It is true, the slave mentality permeates in both society, moreso haiti in my opinion

Thank you for your comment, but you will notice that I did not specifically reply to anyone's post. I am speaking from my own experience in Haiti. I am neither on a DR, nor on a Haiti side. I am merely giving my opinion on an open forum.

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SB212, quite my point exactly. Observation and analysis well done and thus far without any biases, and complexity. As you can see I have an eruption of a Haitian mob in here lashing at me yet cannot answer a simple question.

Yes, indeed you and I said it. Pride can be a good thing, especially if it used to build and empower one's self toward betterment. Indeed you are right that again after 1804 all they seem to have done is stop working seemingly as though that was the major long big ass break they were waiting for from the French masters. They have forgotten that after gaining your independence, you have now have more to prove, to yourself, your country and those former masters whom we took that freedom from whom always think of us as less than human and never their equals.

Truly they have forgotten that after this independence, it is then that you work the most and hardest to keep and maintain that freedom. It is then all eyes are on you to see what you are going to do with that freedom and your former masters would not love anything more to see you plummet to your self destruct and demise as it is apparent already. Yet as Haitian we have done nothing to rid of those chains a total travesty of Toussaint's belief and dream when he said "The Grave Before The Chains" well today Haitians have chosen the total opposite of Toussaint's hope.

They have chosen the Chains which will bring them to the graves for Haiti since individually not one can say: "I am doing, I have done, I can do and I will do" for Haiti to start getting Haiti to the path of Self-Sufficiency.

Most Haitians much rather be posters of blogs and their posts get smaller all of a sudden when they are asked this simple question. What have you done for Haiti yesterday, what of today and tomorrow...?

Here are some pictures to remember a face of a Hero who gave it all for Haiti:
http://thelouvertureproject.org/images/6/6c/Maitland_and_louverture.jpg
http://thelouvertureproject.org/images/4/40/Toussaint_louverture_horse.jpg
http://thelouvertureproject.org/images/7/76/Toussaint_bust_fort_de_joux.jpg
http://thelouvertureproject.org/images/c/c9/T_louverture_portrait.jpg

Oh whatever happened of those and of his inspirational words:
"En me renversant, on n'a abattu à Saint-Domingue que le tronc de l'arbre de la liberté des nègres; il repoussera par les racines, parce qu'elles sont profondes et nombreuses."
Meaning:
"In overthrowing me, you have cut down in Saint-Domingue only the trunk of the tree of liberty It will spring up again by the roots for they are numerous and deep."

WHAT ARE YOU DOING, HAVE DONE, CAN AND WILL DO TO CHANGE THINGS IN HAITI FOR HAITI?

Of course you if one has read most of the posts, those imbeciles think I am downing them instead of empowering them thinking I have all kinds of imaginary problem because those words are what they have a problem with and cannot say. You al can hate me all you want and for somebody you are all have claimed to be a confused individual, it seems that I am ironically more in touch with the premises and devise of the Country than any of you could ever dream of and imagine. I am not mad, confused nor hate Haitians.

Rather, I am angry that I know we can do better for Haiti and of the potentials I know some Haitians have to really be able to contribute in Haiti's cause and help defeat those plights she faces and that you all Haitians really need to get a real grip of reality.

To the new poster..welcome and thank you for posting your opinions. As anonymous said alot of caribbean country suffer from the slave mentality which is prevelant in south america and the USA. Haitians & Dominicans have to find a common ground to simply respect each other and have more business transactions that will improve each RESPECTIVE country. I think people such as some confused haitians taking band with are the ones that you are referring to that has allowed pride to clog their brain and also some self hatred. Dominicans have issues and guess what. So do alot of haitians..Im sure you've been reading the threads...some sick puppies in here with swollen heads. I am mulatto and one hundred percent haitian and have love for my haitians of dark hue,arabs,chinese and all the other ethnicities. Alone my last name would have some of these haitians no there place but I am not here to play internet props status nor brownie points. I am here to dialogue with dominicans about improving our relations. And haitians that talk bad about our country here are absolute idiots. There are many haitian sites to talk about the short comings and issues that haiti faces. Some things need to be discussed over the dinner table and not on the main strip as some self righteous pride haitian with dominican ancestry and jewish ancestry. Most likely his parents where haitians from Hinche that went to cut cane in the DR and now claiming dominicano..where your birth certificate and didn't have one and got deported to haiti..

Thanks for being honest and expressing your opinions..have a great weekend and God bless you.