Don´t worry, I´m not known for holding grudges. But still, wouldn´t it be better if we focus our energies in pointing out the beautiful things that both nations have in common, instead of getting into fist fights for nothing?

I AGREE 100 % So let us do just that, Lautaro.

However, we are going to have those coming on here with ignorance that needs to be checked, re-informed and in fact re-educated.

So how do we move forward toward a new Bohio? I believe a new frontier for change can be built on here with positive progressive thinkers who seem to want to see change and who desire change; but change will not come to the Island if all we do is dream it, wish it and expect it, but not make it, see it and act it. Discussions like these are forging the path, believe it or not, they are... At least we are talking about the differences now and that is how tolerance and acceptances starts. It is time we start to envision and seeing a post-maligned resented racial difference Quisqueya.

Q.A.J: Quisqueyanos Ahora Juntos - It is time to start believing and knowing that we are both children of Quisqueya and our goals should be for the common deeds of all formerly known Ayti natives that we both are. After all, both Nations' source of water is the very same Rio Del Artibonito/ Riviere De L'Artibonite.

So indeed, it would be way better if we were to focus and realize our energies in and by pointing out the beautiful things that both Nations have in common instead of getting into fist fight for nothing -- the key word was indeed nothing.

Is nothing what both Dominicans and Haitians are aiming for and for the entire Island of Hispaniola? I am sure, not. So how about we both aim for "something" then. I believe that it is more probable and feasible so.

In the very words of Obama I say... with (H.A.J: Hispanolanos Ahora Juntos) YES WE CAN

Hispanolano you can't compare the Dominican Republic with Haiti, the poorest country in the hemisphere in all aspects including infrastructure. The D.R. if you dont know is the 7th or 8th most prosperous economy in Latin America, despite being a small country and not being a producer of oil. It dont mean it's perfect by any means poverty, education, medical services and the standard of living for many dominicans are a major problem.

Hispanolo, the same discrimination that Dominicans have due to skin also exists in Haiti towards its people or probably worse. Haiti has an issue with its social classes as well. As I stated the fact that DR are discriminate towards Haitians is the same sentiment or feelings Haitians have against Dominicans. Also, not all Dominicans think this way and the same can be said for Haitians.

When you are considered to be the worst and no one sticks up to alter the imagine of the country than yes, you are viewed as being the worst country in the Western Hemisphere world. Numbers don't lie, Haiti is statistically the poorest country in the Hemisphere and probably the most well known poor country. Although, Bolivia, NIcaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, and even DR are relatively poor countries, Haiti is definitely the most publicize for such. I mean when you think of Haiti, all you know is grinidng poverty and thats it. That's all the world sees and Haiti has been unable really to change that.


In my opinion, Haitians don't do enough to promote there country or to help stem the negative images.

I HOPE YOU CAN READ AND READ GOOD:

No one is comparing the Haitian Republic with the Dominican Republic. They both have their own unique beauty as they both hold as well many aspects of what makes them ugly I am sure. However and nevertheless both nations still share a lot in common than allowed the eyes to see when put aside your racist, biased, prejudicial and resented views along with your eager to want to claim supremacy simply because you as an individual bigot feel good about yourself denigrating and exploiting another Country's economical, political and social negative aspects to deem yourself better. Guys like you is the very reason why I hate my Dominican part at times. Your level of ignorance naivete is a bliss yet is of no excuses why you are much of an imbecile.

Before the year 2004 when DR did not have the supposedly economy that it has today, what would DR or another fellow Dominican would have said if a similar prick individual like yourself but except was from Puero Rico was saying the very same divisive condescending statement about DR like you are doing or saying right now about Haiti? If that was the case and may lesson be learned, that Haiti can always say that it was the richest ever caribbean Island Nation in the Americas period and because of Haiti you even have a history, because of Haiti you even have a shift of tourism. Like it, accept it or not accept it and not like it, the title of "La Perle Des Antilles = The Pearl Of The Antilles" will always belong to dear Haiti.

And in terms of glory when was the time ever has DR been named a wonder of the world? What major meaningful battle recorded in history can DR ever say they have fought that is worth mentioning in the History of the existing world? What civil inspiration of any kind has ever drawn from DR in terms of any struggle that had benefited any kind of mankind in the Western Hemisphere much less to the World? Haiti had helped even America fight for their Independence when Haiti was not yet even an independent nation. Haiti has helped directly and indirectly most of the Latin-Americas to become free. What other Nations has DR helped become free from anything, you goon?

Haiti has had Emperors, Kings and a developed Government against all odds and inconceivable expectation meanwhile DR was simply okay with being Spain's little bitch and still lingers the stench of Spain's atrocities carried out by Trujillo and the Trujilloism that exists in most Dominicans these days towards Haiti and Haitians. Go ahead and claim you are a better human being for that. You would not have had an existing DR had it not been for Haiti regardless of how you look at it even with the given long tension that exist between the two Nations.

Your denial and fear that has turned into your xenophobe and hatred of Haiti or for Haitians still is not going to make Haiti disappear. What is DR and most Dominicans' deepest fear? Well, you can take that to the bank that Haiti has none; but DR in the other hand has all the fears. From DR's always known fear why US America felt the need to have trained and equipped your Army. From yours and DR's fear of ever having to economically collapse from a still frail and fragile economy that is still at its premature stage and may fail any day if not cautious and prudent because the last time I checked, DR is still an impoverished Country as well with much of most of the same social challenges and conditions Haiti has except perhaps or maybe a 5, 6, 7 or 8% more or less difference, you putz.

Oh indeed I get it, which is where most Dominicans are rejoicing that DR actually wants an unstable, socially, economically and politically challenged Haiti because even in denying it so their very survival to succeed or to remain prosperous depends on Haiti's failure. Because once someone is already down, one has no other way to go but up and that scares the hell out of DR. So you want Haiti to be a poor Country, otherwise DR and Dominicans know that they will be overshadowed and naturally of course we cannot have two Pearls in one shell, can we now?

So I get exactly where you or most Dominicans are coming from. You want to make false claims by insinuating that Haitians are not peaceful people yet with all the Human Rights violations happening in DR I am yet to see you or any actual Dominican born activists to be pro-active at standing against those Violations.

No, you would not now, would you now because it must be the gene and blood of Spaniard's barbarism that runs through your veins why I would not expect for you to ever stand for such a cause much less to ever expect from you to be a man who would actually want to see peace between the two Nations as you will raise and teach your kids to continuously be racist and prejudice.

Haiti is the poorest in the Hemisphere in all aspects including infrastructure is what you want to believe... fine, go ahead and so be it. Or that DR is the 7th, 8th most prosperous economy in Latin America... great, yeepee with teepee up your bang hole and many praises. Does that mean personally and individually "You are" a most economic prosperous Latin-American hispanic yourself? And if you were, who the hell cares and would have to care? So do you feel good now in knowing this much?

Tell me something, do you like the word or to be called spic much? Yeah, because you are an Arc-a-type for real. That, there is no confusing doubts about it.

There you said it NY4LIFE,

Haiti is the most publicized poor Country in the western hemisphere which is not at all a coincidence and much of that has to do with what is known about Haiti historically in the eyes of the World and the never ending white european resentments toward Haiti period. I do not say this often, nor do I like to play the resentment blame game much often but indeed it is there and it has been played against Haiti whether others want to admit it or not. It is like a Black person to be naive and say that racism is totally gone and that Whites do not hold any kind of resentments towards Blacks in America today. You get my drift, NY4LIFE? You are okay, NY4LIFE, you are alright of a decent Dominican I mean that.

In Haiti the anguish is not much focused on the skin, but on the class level that of course the skin factor is rather much of a trigger of the notion that the majority populace have with resented anger toward the mulattos in knowing that those mulattoes are the elite with money. With the Black majority still believe that they are being crippled by the mulatto rich class in a monetary sense, rather than it is in a racially motivated sand point. Not so much the same racism that is based solemnly on the premise of the skin persay. Do you see the difference of what I am trying to explain? It is kind of hard and complexed to understand, I know...

Haitians resentments toward Dominicans is based on what they know of how Dominicans factually and actually feel towards them which most of the few Dominicans who may not at all be racist have not been convincing enough that they are truly not in most Haitians eyes. Thus the Haitian racism or resentment I would say is more reversed in a more retaliatory sense of the word. To say the least, DR's foreign policies, especially in the Human Rights area have not been of any convinced position either for Haitians to think otherwise anything from tier know fact of what they already and have always known.

Thus it remains this in limbo status to the Haitian minds as such "since you hate me, well I hate you too" type of mentality. I mean in Haiti, Haitians do not go around antagonizing the Dominican population that is there or do we deny them rights in Haiti and because of the sense of lawlessness in Haiti, that is hardly is regulated upon if at all, the matter of legality of Dominicans. In Haiti, any Haitian who sees a person of lighter skin simply assume that they are from the elite or are simply diaspora or tourists and most Haitians often would not dare to start trouble with that person only because they know of the possible connections means this person might have presumably that is. In fact Haitian men loves Dominican women or light skinned girls like Black guys loves White women in the United States lol...

In fact there is almost this sense of flattery that goes along with seeing a person of a lighter skin complexion in Haiti that presumably is assumed you may have money once again only because of the psychological notion there is that the White, mulatto elite has all the Country's money or has inherited their wealth from family members who might have been whites, or mixed themselves. You see the difference. Prime example and I hate to do this since I know there will be a lashing mob on my neck, my father and his family then my mother whom many assume that they are rich simply because my father is a jew and my mother who looks and is hispanic of Dominican herself.

So in Haiti, mostly wealth is judged on the pigmentation of one's skin per assumption they are mulattoes, thus mulattoes might feasibly mean that you either may have money or inherited money period which is what is perceived in most of the Majority populace of Haiti and quite often than not, 95% of the time that assumption may turn out to be exactly right in Haiti. Haiti has long moved beyond those old day of killing mulattoes simply because they are mulattoes lol. Now kidnapping however is another story lol and again this kind of crime happens because of the majority populace not having any jobs and means to survive thus new social problems and crime arouse naturally of course.

You are quite a smart young man and you have not shown to be prejudice, racist at all, biased most of us can be and you are right as I said, the social problems that exist in Haiti also exist in DR with the only difference is Haiti has a populace of its majority citizens fall into the margin of poor which unfortunately that majority happens to be black with the minority that are mulattos happens to be rich elites. There are only two classes in Haiti and those two are it, you are either poor or you are not. There is not really a middle class in Haiti.

Right indeed due to this extreme negative over publicized stigmatized image of Haiti that already exists in the Media and much of the mind of people around the World of Haiti, the minute you hear Haiti in fact the first picture that comes to mind is like you have said it, grinding poverty and that is all the world sees and we have been challenged at being able to do that, but not unable and lastly I must to agree with you on that. Indeed Haiti, well, Haitians that is do not do enough to promote the Country to deviate from what has stems the negative spin of Haiti's image.

NY4LIFE,

Sorry for such long winded posts because once and when I am typing and I type so fast and think so quick that I am often on a roll and I do not lose my train of thought easily and I often try to reply, response and address an answer of many previous posts that I may have read in this thread before I finally get to post.

Anyway, so what is good. I am back in the States from DR with my mother and suffice to say, it was great bro. We have had the electricity on longer than usual, I think this year there has been only individual isolated incidents and killing during the election process. I got trashed and wasted over the week end. I got slapped by nana for being way too drunk and giving that I have gotten home way too late that night (well more like early in the morning) because most of the clubs were not open due to the election but my friend Pedro brought me to a local spot where it was off the hook.

However my mother was worried simply because three people have gotten killed in DR during the election week which again mostly why nan slapped me. So how's New York, kid? I miss this place for real. What's new, what's hood?

hispalano, baje esa foto to' despeinao que tu e'ta asu'tando lo' niño...lol

Por lo que se ve en la imagen, el tipo esta tratando de verse como Wolverine el de los X-Men, LMAO.